Mini 1830 - Game Over

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Three mafia sounds about right to me.

let me guess, you're one, right?

VOTE: CCC

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VOTE: Manuel87

try to guess why

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@SquareWorld I'd like to see some reads from you.

tip: i vote the first non-townread post above mine

if that's not clear enough, we can play popcorn reads

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rhazhbash is probtown because there are opportunistic scum on him

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@Gren

I fos RhazhBash , hence the vote. I think you have had townie lines like i've explained. I don't see the rush in making reads when we aren't even 10 pages in yet. But, I'd be confident lynching RhazhBash the most right now

lol

VOTE: gerryoat

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In my previous post, I suggested that VictorDeAngelo and Gamma Emerald were pinging as very slightly scum. To that list I will now add GreenNope and Square World; the first for being completely absent, and the second for providing extremely short posts with no reasons for his votes. From these four, I will elect to park my vote (for the moment) on:

VOTE: Square World

How much scummier is Box World compared to Pokémon Remake Emerald, and Old Man Victor?

Also, stop self-metaing at the drop of a hat.

town

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Manuel87 seems like a good place to end our game, don't you think?

do you wanna play Scum Crush Saga?

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@Square World can you explain your reads in a bit more detail?

no

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btw, your post by post analysis on rhazh sucks

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VOTE: Square World

Well I'm not going to allow an environment where scum can active lurk and post just short of prodges and not have to explain anything. We already have enough of that going on.

simple, you aren't trying to discern his alignment

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mean't qo quote 243

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5 RVS null
12 questions X null
35 sheeps Y scummy
68 prodges null
71 pushes Z towny

is this discerning alignment?

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@SquareWorld

- Why have you gone from posting nothing to suddenly spamming the thread?

real life

And on another note why not a direct response to 229. Should I infer Gerry and Manual are your only scumreads?

calm down, i dont get a read on everyone within 2 days

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hydras aren't allowed in normal games

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While i think he has a valid point that its not really an analysis but rather a summary of what said player posted that game, i dont understand why he only refers to the RhazhBash analysis and not to the ones on Victor and Gerry.

lol there are more

VOTE: eagerSnake

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@Square: Why do you think Gerry is scum?

maybe you have to learn to see the post i quoted

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eagerSnake

if you meta'd me, you would notice i usually don't explain my posts

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh! Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh!
Caught in a bad lie

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the problem is that you're assuming me not explaining in a way a 5-years-old kid would understand is scummy

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@Gren

I fos RhazhBash , hence the vote. I think you have had townie lines like i've explained. I don't see the rush in making reads when we aren't even 10 pages in yet. But, I'd be confident lynching RhazhBash the most right now

lol

VOTE: gerryoat

isn't the quote auto-explainable there?

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he's being opportunistic

Opportunism is the conscious policy and practice of taking advantage of circumstances – with little regard for principles, or with what the consequences are for others. Opportunist actions are expedient actions guided primarily by self-interested motives. The term can be applied to individual humans and living organisms, groups, organizations, styles, behaviours, and trends.

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i noticed you used to sheep reads with little to no explanation, what happened there?

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so I'll expect to see his more complete reads list fairly soon.

Creature's early posts don't really contribute much of substance. If the game needs more 'spice', as they claim, it would be lovely if they were to introduce that. Random reads with no explanations, an unwillingness to explain any of them at all on post #108, followed by a deflection towards the inactives in #130. If he is, as he claims, a man of few words, this makes sense. I might read a previous game or two to get a better read.

I like JaeReed's first few posts, although as others have pointed out the reaction tests had been exposed well before he entered the game properly. Engages well to make up for the relative lateness, and asks perceptive questions. This continues for the rest of the game up to this point. Leaning town.

I don't like the way Parama enters the game. Maybe that's just because their first few posts look far too serious for the RVS/immediately post-RVS stage, and their serious interpretation of posts made early in the game, but something about it rubs me up the wrong way. Remark on post #141 is particularly annoying ('why do you care about jaereed's post 8 townreads') since they're happy enough to read into something as early as post #2. Reading later into the game, however, I'm beginning to like the content of their posts a little more, if not their tone.

Dunnstral I'm null-leaning-town on. Early game comments are useful, but then there's a fairly confusing mess about misinterpretations with KittenLicks later on. This reads as town on town to me, not least because they both seem to be working in the same direction and some of the disagreement is about theory rather than just comments. Later posts clear up confusion and serve to focus the conversation where it might otherwise have gone somewhere less promising.

BDT6_Maker we have almost nothing on. Half of their posts are excuses for not posting. I don't like this. Seconding calls for a replacement if they can't give the game the attention it deserves. I don't like post #325, however. Nothing about the post he's quoting demands a response calling attention to roles.

GreyIce and thenewearth are both recent entrants and I have little on them as of right now, although I'm not a fan of the latter's attacks on KittenLicks. P-EDIT: really not a fan.

I'm not all that convinced by the case on Kitten. The discussion of the circle mechanic is null, especially since it occupied other players such as Dunnstral and Creature, the former of whom doesn't appear in thenewearth's suspect list. I don't think post #26 is rolefishing either, since Kitten attempted to shut down discussion before (and does it again in this post). If anything, this exchange just reflects badly on GuiltyLion, who not only keeps asking about something it's clear might be damaging, but then goes on to talk about potential PR claims in post #23, which is far more rolefish-y. I generally like Kitten's posts, so I'm leaning town here too.

I do, however, agree with Dunnstral's assessment of Clumsy Phoenix's early posts. Post #45 is a little scummy; it seems needlessly preoccupied, given there's only a couple of votes on Clumsy Phoenix, with proving their own innocence, and it isn't actually doing anything. It takes until post #81 for them to start being proactive (and even then there's a reference to them being not scum), and then in their next post, #83, we return to the introspection. Incidentally, the first time I read the whole 'any response I make will look scummy' thing, I thought it could be frustrated town, but the reiteration in their most recent post gives me the opposite impression.

Here's the problem with your statement: you're not playing to it. I agree with the sentiment, explaining yourself clearly and moving on is a good thing to do, but you keep returning to the issue (and there have been several issues) all the while reminding us of what you're (not) doing and how it's actually town behaviour (or, at least, how any behaviour you could engage in is scummy, so you're not scum).

Unvote

Vote: Clumsy Phoenix

There was unsurprisingly a lot to read, so if anyone wants clarification or more detail, just ask.

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i can post my opinions, but not explain them like the quote from 287

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rhazhbash is probtown because there are opportunistic scum on him

@Gren

I fos RhazhBash , hence the vote. I think you have had townie lines like i've explained. I don't see the rush in making reads when we aren't even 10 pages in yet. But, I'd be confident lynching RhazhBash the most right now

lol

VOTE: gerryoat

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he's being opportunistic

Opportunism is the conscious policy and practice of taking advantage of circumstances – with little regard for principles, or with what the consequences are for others. Opportunist actions are expedient actions guided primarily by self-interested motives. The term can be applied to individual humans and living organisms, groups, organizations, styles, behaviours, and trends.

Okay,

how

is he being opportunistic?

rhazh is lynchbaity, wouldn't be surprised if there were scum on him

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don't want to lynch Grendel, House, CCC, eagerSnake and VictorDeAngelo

anyone else just call me and i'll join

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gerryoat, are you an alt?

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pretty sure i didn't vote eagersnake in 600

UNVOTE:

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page 1 question
why is the_jester being townread?

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page 2
the_jester still fluffing
gerryoat must be feeling like a badass

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dont worry, i wont be lynched today, but i dont think you're the scum i am looking for

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page 3 question
why is gamma being scumread?

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page 4
not really thinking manuel is scum anymore

gerryoat + the_jester maybe?

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page 5
oh right, 117 is the reason i voted manuel

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wow already got a bad post right now

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page 6 question
should i doubt my victordeangelo townread?

also gerryoat took a little long to vote rhazh

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page 7
gerryoat has the potential to be light_ganski's alt

and yeah, should doubt my victor townread

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page 8
still think ccc is town

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page 9 question
since when eagersnake do PbPA?

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page 10
wow victor that question sucks (249)

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page 11
k guess victor is more towny there

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page 12
ccc's reads are terrible

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page 13
"Gerry is Null but i have a slight townlean on him." ~Manuel87

funny

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page 14
huntress's questions are bad
same could be said about her vote

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page 15
house and gamma strong town

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page 16
feeling like everybody in this page is town

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page 17
okay, gonna doubt my ccc townread

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page 18
manuel town
gerryoat and his excuses
huntress still scum

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page 19
solid case there

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page 20
more town discussion

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page 21
not sure anymore on ccc
his responses seemed to come from scum though

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page 22
ccc being more towny there, though he should still stop nullreading likely everyone

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page 23 question
who uses fos?

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page 24
ccc town
huntress not so scum anymore

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page 25
nah, manuel's reaction doesn't make sense from someone who's trying to tie with me

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page 26
town discussion

page 27 question
grendel still town and i wonder: where scum are?

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page 28 question
k, gerryoat is more towny here, but who orders towniest to scummiest?

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page 29
yeah, who's scum?

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page 30 question
gerryoat, you're probtown, though why give huntress a free pass?

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page 31
this?

My read on eager is mainly a gut read but I'll try to pin it down a bit.

Eager's posting felt off from his very first post. Most people who want to do something other than rvs to start discussion just do it. Eager made a point of drawing the players attention to what he was doing. He was too quick to call Gamma town in 70, especially in view of his statement that he starts with the assumption that everyone is guilty until proved innocent. I didn't like the second part of 80. If he thought Victor might be town with an ulterior motive then he should have waited to see what came of it rather than point it out. Either way it would have been better to wait for Victor's explanation first. His vote on Square in 600 was for an extremely flimsy reason. It was also for something that Manuel did, not Square. He's throwing the words "doubtcasting" and "WIFOM" around far too much and adding distracting stuff like 697.

Vote: eagerSnake

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i'd say scum is in huntress, the_jester and victor, though maybe i accidentally excluded one scum from this list

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what do you think there?

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could consider gerryoat or manuel

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simple, gamma isn't scum lol

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VOTE: Manuel87

l-1

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let the next post be a mod vc

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victor, your reads are sooo bad

please, try harder

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i won't lynch neither of eager or house

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Square: I townread him on the last 20 pages he has to be lynched

Would lynch Gamma, Eager or CCC

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i'd also go for huntress, we gave her enough time and i think she's taking advantage of the situation

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Manuel87

wanna lynch huntress with me?

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lol there are people wanting to lynch gamma

how many scum are between these people?

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victordeangelo, manuel87

did i forget someone?

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lol there are people wanting to lynch gamma

how many scum are between these people?

What's that supposed to mean? Do you think the people wanting to lynch me are scum? Do you think I'm scum? This post is so vague.

you look like a juicy mislynch, why wouldn't scum be on you?

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i'd also be willing to consider grendel too

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anyone up to hunt huntress?

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town roleblocker? no way

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can i hammer?

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VOTE: eagerSnake

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cc

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don't worry i am not a full roleblocker