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I can't answer this question atm I will when the time is right.In post 1088, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:Then why vote Karnos over Elyse...? You put them in the same tier, that implies they're about equal.-
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Reasons.In post 1090, kraska77 wrote:so you do have elyse as bottom tier :/
why are you trying to meet midway with elyse then-
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*Tackle hug* nuuuuuuu ;-;In post 1093, kraska77 wrote:okay
it better be good
because im beginning to wonder if im wrong about you-
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We're the only one's who sr him It's not happening today although I wish it was!In post 1106, Nero Cain wrote:
town do naked votes all the time but yea, I generally think that not giving reasons for your votes is pro-scum.In post 752, MichelSableheart wrote:I think that voting without giving reasoning is better for scum then for town
This part is junk though. Like there was no way that Blitz's naked vote was scummier than any other naked vote.In post 752, MichelSableheart wrote:This made Blitz slightly more likely to be scum, but the difference was marginal. If the other players had a 3 in 12 chance (0.25) of being scum, I felt her chance of being scum was something like 0.2505.
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Elyse I told you vote karnos with me or I'm gonna vote you will you join me or noIn post 1100, gerryoat wrote:that's the point-
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Maybe I didn't really factor that in I was mostly going for fear. I still think she could be scum and smart enough to understand this but the read isn't as strong as it was beforeIn post 1131, kraska77 wrote:Did elyse even talk about karnos before for you to expect her to consider a hop on that wagon at all?-
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Would you lynch in any of those 3 I named?In post 1153, Elyse wrote:
why would I vote either when giga is at L-3 and I'm scumreading him the mostIn post 1136, kraska77 wrote:
And you're not voting either of us because...?In post 1133, Elyse wrote:I would vote kraska or shadow
like you're just making shit up to make me look bad
VTIn post 1146, Nero Cain wrote:vote:Elyse
We have a day and change left, go ahead and claim.
ANY HAMMERS BEFORE INTENT AND A FULL CLAIM WILL BE TREATED AS A SCUM CLAIM.
Honestly just lynch me
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I don't really flip town often as you can see from my past games so what I try to do is say whatever is on my mind but I'm learning I can't do that because some people think a lot of the comments I think we're scummy the reaction test I did on Elyse was to help me with my scumread on her but it in fact made it worse I am still going to lynch her because the other 3 people I want to get lynched aren't getting lynched clearly I think I tried to show false confident because my mind set was "Okay well my town game on the site I play on is amazing so I'm gonna do just as well on this site" and that's not the case at all so I'm trying to find how I want to play as town I can't just be my carefree self because everyone finds that filler I do scummy I feel confined into a playstyle I don't want to do just so I can appear towny to others me putting air and stuff I've done my whole mafia life so I don't see it as scummy what so ever but I think I'm starting to see how others can I think once I get out of my EM! mindset it will help me-
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I think the confidence I got was from Transcend seeing me as town and I just thought everyone would back off and I didn't understand why the mason claims are scummy when gambits like this happen all the time but I need to remember not every site has the same rules and the normal is different here and I shouldn't be content with my friends tring me I should be content with EVERYONE townreading me-
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sr me all you want but I promise Kraska and Giga are both town hereIn post 1163, I Am Innocent wrote:Kraska I'm unsure of now too.
I wouldn't vote Kraska I'd have to do a re read on shadow to see if I wanted to vote in Elyse/Shadow
Can you tell me how you feel about Sable/Bliz/Karnos though?-
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I don't really know what to say I want Gerry to be town and I can't tell if that's friend!me wanting him to be town or I tr him I'd be content with an Elyse lynch still over those 2 because lurker lynches if wrong reset this dayIn post 1169, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:but i'm scumreading none of those slots
like michel is more likely than not town and I can't read blitz for shit, deadline wagonning them sounds horrible
shadow or gerry are a lot better to me.
I have like literally no reason to scumread Shadow in all honesty. I just expected more from him because of our last game, and his Karnos vote with you was really weird... Other than that his slot hasn't been super helpful, and at least out of the three lurkers (and I really think one of them is scum) he's probably the one most likely flipping scum.-
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Please dear god don't self vote at this stage.In post 1173, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
well yeah, that's why i've preferred an elyse lynch over any, with 1 day left a lurker lynch can backfireIn post 1171, MariaR wrote:I think it's really really risky to vote in lurkers where we can get very good info reads on Elyse's flip
but if people think she's town then I think i'm a better lynch. that's why i was trying to push a 1v1. I strongly believe self-voting is stupid and you know I've lost a game because of it happening, but I really can't see an alternative way to steer town in a better direction if one of us can't get lynched. maybe i'm just not thinking hard enough.-
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that's why my vote is on Elyse she already claimedIn post 1177, I Am Innocent wrote:
1 is true of lurker and non lurker alike. If u feel that strongly we lynch among u, Gigi or élysé.In post 1174, MariaR wrote:People change there game a lot so idk if you should base a read on sable due to meta
flash lynching on a lurker scares the shit out of me because 1) Could be a pr 2) If it's really scum they'll prob claim pr anyway 3) We get no info
2 will self resolve over the course of the game
3 there is always info. If I'm pushing town shadow and it protects scum u or scum élysé that would come out later in the game...-
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Pro tip: Saying so much spam is adding to the spam smart one.In post 1183, Blitzkrieg wrote:God so much spam.
I don't understand Bliz town can anyone talk on that please-
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Does this vote mean you think me and Giga are both town
UNVOTE: god what the f am I doing-
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I know you and Kraska are town and I think you can town tell much better then me you already got a few sr's on you where I'm always a cop out lynch for scum I guess I'm an easy push so better get me out of the way now I think it's much better so *shrug*In post 1192, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
Transcend's mason fakeclaim pretty much made this town collapse on itself, and he dug himself a massive hole that i don't think anyone could get out of. i think that my townflip and me saying that this town hasn't sorted the slots it needs to would help the gamestate, especially because i keep saying that you and kraska should be put on the back burner D2 if I'm dead. Do you disagree...?In post 1190, MariaR wrote:Why do you want to be lynched so badly Giga when you're obv town what the fk can be so bad you want to lynch yourself
maria i don't think your lynch does the same thing-
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How did you reach the answer of 2 outo f 3 (I assume 3) of the scum are lurkers (karnos and Gerry)
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Nope you sr both Gerry and Karnos right?In post 1208, Shadow_step wrote:I think you quoted the wrong post. ^-
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I didn't think you sr them for lurking I just thought it didn't make sense for Karnos and Gerry to both be scum so I wanted to hear what your thoughts were on it.In post 1210, Shadow_step wrote:Their lurking hasn't got much do with it, I've explained my Gerry read while karnos I just wanted more pressure on that slot to sort him out.-
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I doubt 2 of the mafia would hardcore lurk to hellIn post 1214, gerryoat wrote:
why doesn't it make sense for us to be partners?In post 1211, MariaR wrote:
I didn't think you sr them for lurking I just thought it didn't make sense for Karnos and Gerry to both be scum so I wanted to hear what your thoughts were on it.In post 1210, Shadow_step wrote:Their lurking hasn't got much do with it, I've explained my Gerry read while karnos I just wanted more pressure on that slot to sort him out.-
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You've been lurking hardcoreIn post 1228, gerryoat wrote:uh I gave a reason? you had no reason to fos me and you tried to get votes on me for no reason. i want even lurking-
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If you're town don't play with me again please you're truly unpleasant to play withIn post 1227, Blitzkrieg wrote:
Baaahhh!In post 1222, MichelSableheart wrote:Haven't got much time now, full post hopefully to follow later today.
I really don't want to lynch outside the fake mason claim. Nothing anyone else has done comes close in scummyness.
So with the momentum for a giga wagon completely gone:
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No you're just quite a rude personIn post 1232, Blitzkrieg wrote:
I know you're upset at being caught scum. Sorry.In post 1231, MariaR wrote:
If you're town don't play with me again please you're truly unpleasant to play withIn post 1227, Blitzkrieg wrote:
Baaahhh!In post 1222, MichelSableheart wrote:Haven't got much time now, full post hopefully to follow later today.
I really don't want to lynch outside the fake mason claim. Nothing anyone else has done comes close in scummyness.
So with the momentum for a giga wagon completely gone:
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GerryIn post 1239, Blitzkrieg wrote:
Huh? Who are you talking to here?In post 1233, MariaR wrote:Notice how Gerry suddenly becomes active when he's getting lynched I voted you because you weren't a bad lynch and it was a lynch that wasn't giga so I voted you your reaction wasn't towny what so ever this isn't !town Gerry
The only reason you voted me was because I was the only counter wagon-
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There's no contradictions against me you said a line you said as town before but that was a stupid reason to tr you because that same line can be easily faked as scum town gerry would be posting more town gerry wouldn't have the bs reactions you have and you're voting me because I had no reason to vote you and did that as maf when we both know I wouldn't do the same meta with you in the game like a moron you voted me because you had toIn post 1237, gerryoat wrote:Now maria, if you have a reason for your sudden flip, you can explain. Because I was "lurking" 2 days ago as well when you said I was probably town. If you want to respond to these allegations of contridictions against you, now would be a good time.-
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Kraska I swear that I'm town sweet fking jesus you don't know how upsetting it is knowing my top 2 tr's are town and they think I could be scumIn post 1242, kraska77 wrote:
Ya...I don't understand this eitherIn post 1230, gerryoat wrote:
less than 2 days ago she had 5 people scummier than me. all of a sudden is ok with her scumread voting me as well (despite the fact that i was voting her scumread)In post 1087, MariaR wrote:(Giga Kraska)
(Jarjar Nero)
(Shadow IAI Gerry)
(Thor)
(Bliz)
(Elyse Sable Karnos)
my strong initial town read on her dwindled when she backtracked on her scum read on you after being pressed about it
I don't understand how the opinion of others could so easily ebb her more intimate+intuitive read on you-
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Already did explain but you're acting like changing your reads is SCUMMY you can NEVER be unsure on a read that's just outright scummy!In post 1244, gerryoat wrote:
Translation: "There is a thing called changing reads. I'm just gonna say this cause I have no reason or can explain my sudden read changes."In post 1238, MariaR wrote:You know a thing called reads changing Gerry yeah it happens i if you read the thread you'd see that!-
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You also say you weren't lurking but you suddenly become active and post when you have votes on you are you gonna say that's just random. I liked Elyse passed my reaction test and the reason I still voted her was cause she was slightly scummy and she was the counter wagon to my biggest tr giga and I didn't think I would have enough time to change it to dif wagon now that I see a wagon I do like without the fear of pr (if he does claim pr I'm not unvoting)-
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Prob the most random vote ever doesn't even say why he wants to vote Elyse just jumps on the BW adding a joke with his bw "slip" Gerry isn't a noob he wouldn't do a fake gambit slip like that as town if he can fake traitor claims as scum he for sure knows how to not slip as town (he has over 4 trophies of playing mafia btw)
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In post 1054, gerryoat wrote:wait wtf transcend is gone. lame af. he's being tamed compared to what he says on EM lmao. w/e, i still haven't gotten anyone to convince me to vote with them, so I will still vote no one for nowWhat a sudden change of heart!
You're scummy for not outting a reason for your vote and just jumping on a bw-
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The trophy comment was so you can't do your stupid noob tell bs againIn post 1250, gerryoat wrote:I have 7 trophies if we are counting, but that doesn't explain how I become scummy for voting your main scumread lmao-
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I'm not dancing around the topic I've answered itIn post 1254, gerryoat wrote:You also said I was town when I was lurking 2 days ago. I have done the same amount of "lurking" and voted your scumread. How does that make me scummy to you? Explain that, cause you're dancing around the topic