Mini Normal 1823 - Game Over

[Xkfyu]

I'm here. Who's scum?

[Xkfyu]

Ah ok. Well basically night 0 is generally just for flavor. Never played in a game where there was actually night actions that "night".

Well, this is a Normal game with no flavor...

You think there were no actions during N0?

[Xkfyu]

Ah ok. Well basically night 0 is generally just for flavor. Never played in a game where there was actually night actions that "night".

Well, this is a Normal game with no flavor...


You think there were no actions during N0?

Considering how quickly the mod went from Night 0 to Day 1, it seems most likely that Night 0 just meant nothing. That being said I don't think I've never actually played a game with actions done during a "Night 0".

I'm willing to bet that there were N0 actions. Otherwise, N0 would have just been called "Confirmation Phase."

[Xkfyu]

I'm here. Who's scum?

You for being late

My bad.

[Xkfyu]

@Mh-were there actions in Night 0?

Lol no way he's gonna answer that.

[Xkfyu]

I'm here. Who's scum?

Gerrygoat

Try again.

[Xkfyu]

VOTE: Gerry

Forced

Can I vote mimikyu cause I'm jealous of their name? That pokemon is so cute

This does come across as forced. I don't know why you felt the need to ask for permission to vote. And you didn't even vote for mimikyu in the end. It feels weird

VOTE: gerry

Can I vote mimikyu cause I'm jealous of their name? That pokemon is so cute

This does come across as forced. I don't know why you felt the need to ask for permission to vote. And you didn't even vote for mimikyu in the end. It feels weird

VOTE: gerry

tihs

Gerry is town, which means that one of these 3 is almost certainly scum.

Sonia is also town though, so Blackstar and Zyf are my lynch pool for today.

VOTE: Zyf

[Xkfyu]

Did I get the spelling correct?

[Xkfyu]

@Mh-were there actions in Night 0?

Lol no way he's gonna answer that.

But does it hurt to try tho?

It just makes you look like you're trying too hard to ask something that people wouldn't expect scum to ask.

[Xkfyu]

I don't understand all the Sonia town reads.

Well, I'm not going to explain mine, other than to say that she looks town to me.

[Xkfyu]

My forced thing was a joke as me and gerry are like best friends.

I know yours was a joke. Well, I didn't know, but I'm not really surprised, and I believe you. Hence why I'm not worried about yours. It's the other two who I want to lynch.

[Xkfyu]

I'm here. Who's scum?

Gerrygoat

Try again.

What makes him town?

For pretty much every single one of his posts.

Even his recent questioning of algrebra has a very unconcerned tone to it.

[Xkfyu]

For pretty much every single one of his posts.

Even his recent questioning of algrebra has a very unconcerned tone to it.

I'll agree that a newer player likely sounds more concerned in this scenario.

It's also very obvious that, while he may be new to the site, he is definitely not new to Mafia.

[Xkfyu]

For pretty much every single one of his posts.

Even his recent questioning of algrebra has a very unconcerned tone to it.

I'll agree that a newer player likely sounds more concerned in this scenario.

It's also very obvious that, while he may be new to the site, he is definitely not new to Mafia.

In that case, he gets no town-points for that lax attitude.

Sure he does.

[Xkfyu]

Can I vote mimikyu cause I'm jealous of their name? That pokemon is so cute

He asks if he can vote for mimikyu instead of just doing it. Scum don't want to make any votes that bring down heat on them and tend to tread carefully. I would've expected someon who was town to just vote. Especially during RVS. Notice that he never actually places the vote down.

Can confirm

Guys, this is typical sonia and gerry. They'll be taking this game seriously in a bit.

lol stop trying to pocket me

Doubtcasting

I won't take this seriously until at least page 5 so don't mind me.

He's trying to drag out the RVS by making troll posts and sarcastic remarks. It benefits town to get out of RVS as soon as possible

Why are my maf partners bussing me? We didn't discuss this

This feels to me like he's nervous about the votes on him and wants to come across as relaxed so he jokes that he's getting bussed. Maybe one of his partners really is bussing him

Every single thing you said here is just nonsense, man.

If I didn't know for a fact that you are capable of such things as town, I'd be all over your wagon right now, instead of Zyf's.

[Xkfyu]

For pretty much every single one of his posts.

Even his recent questioning of algrebra has a very unconcerned tone to it.

I'll agree that a newer player likely sounds more concerned in this scenario.

It's also very obvious that, while he may be new to the site, he is definitely not new to Mafia.

In that case, he gets no town-points for that lax attitude.

Sure he does.

To be more clear, he does from me. I get why you said what you said, though.

[Xkfyu]

Can you explain to me why it's nonsense? I'm tired of hearing stuff like this in every game and I want to get better

Sure.

In post 47, gerryoat wrote:
Can I vote mimikyu cause I'm jealous of their name? That pokemon is so cute

He asks if he can vote for mimikyu instead of just doing it. Scum don't want to make any votes that bring down heat on them and tend to tread carefully. I would've expected someon who was town to just vote. Especially during RVS. Notice that he never actually places the vote down.

He is clearly joking here, but you (even while admitting that it was in RVS) still try to make something of it. That last sentence implies that you believe he's scum for this reason, and it's ridiculous.

In post 76, gerryoat wrote:
In post 73, Transcend wrote:
Can confirm

Guys, this is typical sonia and gerry. They'll be taking this game seriously in a bit.


lol stop trying to pocket me

Doubtcasting

You can't just throw Mafia terminology about all willy nilly like that. He wasn't doubtcasting, he was saying "stop buddying me," and with the "lol" at the beginning, again, this looks like another joke.

In post 77, gerryoat wrote:
I won't take this seriously until at least page 5 so don't mind me.

He's trying to drag out the RVS by making troll posts and sarcastic remarks. It benefits town to get out of RVS as soon as possible

This is either you as scum trying to get town credits or you as town just repeating some ridiculous game theory that you have heard in the past.

Honestly, in a 2 week long day phase, how much time is really wasted between RVS and page 5?

In post 86, gerryoat wrote:
Why are my maf partners bussing me? We didn't discuss this

This feels to me like he's nervous about the votes on him and wants to come across as relaxed so he jokes that he's getting bussed. Maybe one of his partners really is bussing him

Once again, an obvious joke, regardless of alignment. Anyone can see this.

How can you possibly see this as nervousness, when it's the exact opposite?

[Xkfyu]

What scummy thing did I do again?
when I said this i was referring to "why do you need permission to vote"

Right. You agreed with BlackStar that Gerry wasn't joking in his post about voting Mimi and that his post was scummy. That is clearly not the case.

[Xkfyu]

@Xyfuku
you seriously don't see anything wrong with gerry never voting? Even after saying a bunch of things to suggest people are voteworthy to them?

No, not even a little bit.

Assuming Gerry is scum because he's not voting is assuming that he is hesitant about voting, for some reason. That doesn't at all match his attitude that he has shown this game, and frankly, it doesn't make any sense to assume that anyone is actually hesitant to vote, when people can lay down a naked vote and easily get away with it.

[Xkfyu]

Okay Blackstar. Duly noted.

^
transcend gets very minor town points

Why?

[Xkfyu]

which at this point just ticks me off

but noooooo, that's scummy as fuck

You shouldn't scum read actions simply because they piss you off.

[Xkfyu]

I don't even understand what's happening right now

This post.

Townies are normally confused at the start of the game, scum are more surprised when they're confused. Good enough tell for a first vote.

No. It's really not.

[Xkfyu]

I think the foses on sonia/gerry are slightly justified, but i feel their actions are nai.

Get out of here with that. You can't believe both.

[Xkfyu]

I think the foses on sonia/gerry are slightly justified, but i feel their actions are nai.

Get out of here with that. You can't believe both.

I do motherfucker

I know their play contradicts with the average Joe here so

SHUT

THE

FUCK

UP

Not.

A.

Chance.

[Xkfyu]

Don't talk to me then you two legged cancer inducing heathen.

How do you know I have two legs?

[Xkfyu]

What's wrong?

[Xkfyu]

Why? Because I disagree with you?

[Xkfyu]

I know these fuckers better than you maybe you should shut the fuck up and listen to what i have to say instead of being a colossal douchebag.

I haven't done that, and I'm definitely not going to be listening to you. You clearly aren't thinking straight.

[Xkfyu]

I'm thinking straight you shit bag.

I know their play styles are different compared to most people here.

I've played with them for upwards of 1 year before they joined this site.

Their actions albeit nai, are perceived as scummy by most.

Get it in your thick empty head.

What's with all the name calling? It really doesn't do anything but make you come across as childish.

[Xkfyu]

Then die.

VOTE: Xkfuckyou

Yeah, I doubt it.

[Xkfyu]

I just did.

[Xkfyu]

This vote doesn't move the entire motherfucking game.

Well, I'd suggest that up with something better than "lynch him because he made me cry" then.

[Xkfyu]

Trolling people is fun, too much fun.

VOTE: Saru

I like it.

VOTE: Saru

[Xkfyu]

Although i am serious when i feel that the foses are quantifiable on them.

Fair enough.

[Xkfyu]

What scummy thing did I do again?
when I said this i was referring to "why do you need permission to vote"

Right. You agreed with BlackStar that Gerry wasn't joking in his post about voting Mimi and that his post was scummy. That is clearly not the case.

except that it wasn't just that
he did it again later

I don't think much of it now because apparently that's his normal play, but he refrained from voting MULTIPLE times
also you can joke and vote at the same time, that's why it's RVS. And that's why there's a thing called "jokevoting"
do you seriously think the entire makeup of the early mimikyu wagon was serious?

I don't know what the Mimi wagon has to do with anything.

[Xkfyu]

Z:

If saru flips scum (he will) i expect that it's more likely that snake was wked town vs. Wked scum.

IT'S 3 LETTERS YA LAZY DERP

thank you xyfku for spelling my name properly, auto conf-town

k but srlsy xyfku what are your reads right now?
You seem to be scumreading both transcend and I but in order for us to be scum we'd both have to be bussing hard as fuck.

Actually, Transcend is a town read for me, along with Sonia and Gerry, and I'm leaning slightly town on Mimi.

I'm scum reading Saru and eagersnake, though I'm pretty sure that they aren't both scum and you, but that has lessened significantly lately. I could see TierShift as scum as well, based solely on 143.

[Xkfyu]

it was a wagon made of jokevotes, meaning if he jokevoted too it would have been normal anyway

what's your attachment to my gerry vote anyway?

I just think there was scum somewhere on the Gerry wagon. It was way too suspicious for my liking.

[Xkfyu]

it doesn't matter if the contradiction wasn't intentional
it's not like a scumslip is intentional
I'm liking this saru wagon a lot

Then by that logic, anyone who contradicts themselves is conf-scum? k.
I like my wagon a lot too. Easy way to catch scum when I flip town. hehehe

Yep, all 7 on your lynching wagon will be scum. Good catch.

[Xkfyu]

"That has lessened significantly"
>continues pushing me after voting elsewhere
lack of continuity there m8

What are you talking about? I haven't pushed you at all lately, other than to say that I still slightly scum read you.

[Xkfyu]

it doesn't matter if the contradiction wasn't intentional
it's not like a scumslip is intentional
I'm liking this saru wagon a lot

Then by that logic, anyone who contradicts themselves is conf-scum? k.
I like my wagon a lot too. Easy way to catch scum when I flip town. hehehe

Yep, all 7 on your lynching wagon will be scum. Good catch.

It'll be easy to tell by their shitty reasoning whose scum. Don't worry, right after my hammer I'll give the low-down. Town can thank me later.

Well then, what the hell is everyone waiting on? If you can solve it just from your lynch, then sacrificing you to find ALL the scum is a no-brainer.

[Xkfyu]

Everyone please pile on the Saru wagon, so we can go ahead and solve this game. No sense in dragging it out, right?

[Xkfyu]

Saying something can be solved from my death isn't consenting to it. y u stupid

So you both "like your wagon" and don't consent to it at the same time?

How's that possible?

[Xkfyu]

You're not trying to stop your death at all, you're not scum hunting and you're dating people to lynch you. Y u asshole

Haha

[Xkfyu]

FoS Sonia
She's doing what I did in 1721 as scum

Which was what exactly?

[Xkfyu]

Can we vote in me and Zy fucker today?????????????????????

no because there are much better lynch options.

I'm getting more and more sure sonia is scum trying to save saru's ass

She really isn't scum.

[Xkfyu]

GO FUCK YOURSELF

I don't want to play with him lynch him right now I don't want him in this god dam game

VOTE: Zyf

I'm not doing that. Not for those reasons.

[Xkfyu]

Can we vote in me and Zy fucker today?????????????????????

no because there are much better lynch options.

I'm getting more and more sure sonia is scum trying to save saru's ass

She really isn't scum.

convince me

She soft claimed way earlier.

[Xkfyu]

You don't seem to know what the term "white knighting" actually means.

[Xkfyu]

You don't seem to know what the term "white knighting" actually means.

Then explain it to me.

It's when scum player defends a town player who is about to get lynched for the town credits.

[Xkfyu]

I now know Transcend is either A) Mafia with Zyr or B) Awful at reading this game and should never play again already stated why Zyr is scum XDDDD

Honestly, all 4 of us are probably town and making a bunch of noise, making it easy for scum to stay under the radar.

[Xkfyu]

Very confident they're town: Lowell, Xkyfu

How'd Lowell sneak into that "Very confident they're town" pile?

[Xkfyu]

1) Why would you do it? So that if/when he flipped town people would be like "oh wow saru was right let's trust them"

Wait, so apparently I'm scum with Snake(which you're 100% sure about) but I'm also scum who is WK-ing a town Snake. What? Guess you contradicted yourself and now you're confirmed scum for that.

Anyways, I'm just going to claim right now because fuck it. Alas, I am but a VT. I hate being VT anyways so whatevs.

After I flip, take a good hard look at both Transcend and Xkfyu because the fight between them looks fake af. Trolling is a convenient excuse that I could use for my posts too, but I'm not scum so. Plus, Transcend's discredit of me just looks so bad lmfao. If I'd have to give a third scum, I'd probably say one of the lurkers.

Mimi is probably town. Gerry is also probably town. inb4 "oh those are Saru's scum partners."

If Zyf is town, then he's just a bad player who thinks questioning speed wagons is scummy. Sad times. He'll learn.

Good luck and cy@ in the dead thread!

I like it.

UNVOTE: Saru

VOTE: Lowell

[Xkfyu]

Very confident they're town: Lowell, Xkyfu

How'd Lowell sneak into that "Very confident they're town" pile?

because i just, don't see them as scum
kinda like how you townread gyrlander to no end even tho they played SO BAD that i can't even

Lol fair point.

At least I can now see you as town.

UNVOTE: Lowell

VOTE: Vedith

[Xkfyu]

Very confident they're town: Lowell, Xkyfu

How'd Lowell sneak into that "Very confident they're town" pile?

because i just, don't see them as scum
kinda like how you townread gyrlander to no end even tho they played SO BAD that i can't even

Lol fair point.

At least I can now see you as town.

UNVOTE: Lowell

VOTE: Vedith

What are you voting Vedith for?

Because he replaced eagerSnake.

[Xkfyu]

shouldn't you at least wait for the catch-up post?

Is the slot any less scummy because of the replacement?

[Xkfyu]

shouldn't you at least wait for the catch-up post?

Is the slot any less scummy because of the replacement?

no
but it doesn't get any scummier either
so you're saying you agree with saru enough to no longer vote them but disagree and still think what snake did is by a scum's hand
so basically at least one of saru and snake are scum to you

No, I now believe that Saru is town, regardless of snake's alignment, and that snake is my biggest scum read.

[Xkfyu]

In post 530, Zyf wrote:
In post 524, gerryoat wrote:
In post 522, Transcend wrote:
Gerry Oat:

Do me a solid and vote conf scum Saru


Isn't he at L2? Also, the bw on him was pretty quick. idk about that

What's with u ppl thinking high speed D1 wagons must be bad wagons

Eh, they usually are.

Define the term "bad wagon," because I don't think there is any such thing as a bad wagon.

In post 542, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 541, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
I now know Transcend is either A) Mafia with Zyr or B) Awful at reading this game and should never play again already stated why Zyr is scum XDDDD

Honestly, all 4 of us are probably town and making a bunch of noise, making it easy for scum to stay under the radar.

This pings, so I'm quoting it for later.

Nothing much better for now unfortunately.

Why wait?

Instead of just throwing some shade, let's talk about it now.

[Xkfyu]

A wagon on town is a bad wagon.

Yeah, that's what I figured you meant.

What if a townies lynch directly resulted in catching one scum? Would you still consider that to be a "bad wagon?"

[Xkfyu]

What do you like about it? You haven't explained your town read

It's funny that it took this long for someone to ask this.

It's this:

After I flip, take a good hard look at both Transcend and Xkfyu because the fight between them looks fake af. Trolling is a convenient excuse that I could use for my posts too, but I'm not scum so. Plus, Transcend's discredit of me just looks so bad lmfao. If I'd have to give a third scum, I'd probably say one of the lurkers.

If Saru is scum, he knows that any "scum reads" he claims will obviously be ignored. So, this is absolutely pointless for scum to post, and it's more effort than scum would make.

[Xkfyu]

And scum defending partner is a check k lets go boys we have at least 2 mafia already.

lol wut
no i'm saying lynching someone before they do anything/claim is bad play lol

Who said doing anything like that? My vote was the first vote on him. Stop blowing everything out of proportion.

[Xkfyu]

not obvious town, because he isn't obvtowning like zyf

Zyf is sooooo not obvtowning anything.

[Xkfyu]

What do you like about it? You haven't explained your town read

It's funny that it took this long for someone to ask this.

It's this:

After I flip, take a good hard look at both Transcend and Xkfyu because the fight between them looks fake af. Trolling is a convenient excuse that I could use for my posts too, but I'm not scum so. Plus, Transcend's discredit of me just looks so bad lmfao. If I'd have to give a third scum, I'd probably say one of the lurkers.

If Saru is scum, he knows that any "scum reads" he claims will obviously be ignored. So, this is absolutely pointless for scum to post, and it's more effort than scum would make.

I've seen scum make posts like that in almost every game because then people start to town read them for the same reason that you did. It's NAI

Yeah yeah yeah. He's town, get over it and find another lynch.

[Xkfyu]

no
you doing this makes me extra confident saru is scum

And I'm scum with him, right?

[Xkfyu]

I'm calling it now it's Transcend Zyr and Ved

Is there a type of kudo I c n get for all 3 scum being obv cause this is borderline easy

Yeah, I could see that.

[Xkfyu]

What do you like about it? You haven't explained your town read

It's funny that it took this long for someone to ask this.

It's this:

After I flip, take a good hard look at both Transcend and Xkfyu because the fight between them looks fake af. Trolling is a convenient excuse that I could use for my posts too, but I'm not scum so. Plus, Transcend's discredit of me just looks so bad lmfao. If I'd have to give a third scum, I'd probably say one of the lurkers.

If Saru is scum, he knows that any "scum reads" he claims will obviously be ignored. So, this is absolutely pointless for scum to post, and it's more effort than scum would make.

I've seen scum make posts like that in almost every game because then people start to town read them for the same reason that you did. It's NAI

Yeah yeah yeah. He's town, get over it and find another lynch.

That one actually made me laugh out loud. Don't do that. I'm at work...

[Xkfyu]

I'm calling it now it's Transcend Zyr and Ved

Is there a type of kudo I c n get for all 3 scum being obv cause this is borderline easy

Yeah, I could see that.

lol k you try that shit

I already am. I'm voting Vedith aren't I?

[Xkfyu]

Hey why don't we hate MariaR or Tiershift more?

I actually do think I hate Tiershift, but I'd have to go back to make sure. I have this feeling of hatred when I read the name, but I don't remember why.

But MariaR is Sonia, and she is definitely town.

[Xkfyu]

Hey why don't we hate MariaR or Tiershift more?

I actually do think I hate Tiershift, but I'd have to go back to make sure. I have this feeling of hatred when I read the name, but I don't remember why.

But MariaR is Sonia, and she is definitely town.

Wait, are you just naming people with low post counts to try and cast shade? Because that would be a really scummy thing to do.

[Xkfyu]

Xk is scumming it up hard btw

You're trolling again...

[Xkfyu]

Sonia is definitely town

Hello I is n00b I just learned how to post on this site I have never won take it easy on me please as I don't know how this game works I am anime weeb desu desu

VOTE: Transcend fking liar

MODS how much may I swear.

i feel like scum would only say this because they don't want to be attacked, so they can just lurk around.

Yeah I curse a lot because I FUCKING WANT TO LETS GO WOO...i'm bored.

then this post completely contradicts that, so that indicates that sonia is town

what about this guy
who played terribly then disappeared >.>

Yep, I'd support algebra's lynch.

It's a hell of a lot better than the Saru lynch.

[Xkfyu]

Nope buddy

You wish

You're trying to be everyone's friend by agreeing with everyone's awful logic

That is definitely not what is happening.

[Xkfyu]

I feel my toxic sometimes bad play style has rubbed off on you sonia. Rip.

Sorry just kinda pissy that I lost my purse so i'm taking out all my scumhunt anger on your ass

Hope you find your purse, hun. But it's not worth lynching ~the best person to ever play mafia~ over.

I can't tell what I want to kick first your balls or your ego

Go with the balls. Unwarranted egos aren't worth the effort.

Plus, they're impregnable. Nothing you ever do can tear it down.

[Xkfyu]

Xkfyu--Where do all of your reads stand right now? If you could give me some reasons too I might be more willing to get on the Vedith train in the nearer future.

Hell, I'm not even sure anymore. Let me think, and I'll get back to you on that.

[Xkfyu]

I only voted Lowell there because Zyf had just put him in his "Very Townie" pile and I wanted to see what he would say about it. Otherwise, I would have just went straight to Vedith.

[Xkfyu]

Okay but you said i was a green read then sonia over here pulls 3 foses out of her ass (she's hard town btw just playing off of emotion) and you're like "yep sure sounds good haha yep"

That's not what I said. I said "I could see that." That doesn't necessarily mean that I believed it.

If I did believe it, I would be voting for you instead of Vedith.

[Xkfyu]

Saru needs rope now though

Still no.

[Xkfyu]

@Sonia & Xfkyu

Can you quote some stuff to back up the possibility of a transcend, zyf, ved scum team?

Nah, not really. Transcend and zyf are probably just 2 town players with strong town reads on each other double teaming Saru. Vedith just happens to be the direct beneficiary of that double team.

[Xkfyu]

Yeah wtf why are you evading saru rope

have you considered waiting for vedith
dude we have a lot of time
it's been TWO DAYS

You DO realize that you've been the main one pushing for Saru's immediate lynch, right?

[Xkfyu]

Yeah Vedith only has 2 posts lol. Not coin flipping his lynch lol.

It's not a coin flip. Vedith replacing in doesn't nullify everything that snake did.

[Xkfyu]

Lol you've lost your marbles sonia

This is coming from me resident, loses his marbles more than he changes his underwear.

Sonia's play kind of reminds me of Radiant Cowbells

Yeah, I don't think so.

[Xkfyu]

God no

Sonia is nothing like RC

They both tunnel hard against people and don't give reasons for it, they both get noisy really easily and they're both hard for me to read

You just described like half the players on this site.

[Xkfyu]

Sonia, I really do think you're letting your emotions get the best of you.

I'm fairly certain that Zyf and Transcend aren't buddies here. In fact, I doubt that either one of them is scum.

Can we move on to someone else? Who would you prefer other than those two?

[Xkfyu]

Where did saru go, btw?

Doesn't matter. He's town.

[Xkfyu]

Where did saru go, btw?

Doesn't matter. He's town.

I still don't really buy that

VOTE: zyf

Really?

[Xkfyu]

BlackStar, how the hell can you not buy that Saru is town, AND vote Zyf in virtually the same breath?

[Xkfyu]

NOW LET ME GO GET THIS GUYS BS READS ON ME

Please don't.

[Xkfyu]

By the way, if this is just one huge scum theater production and you (Sonia, Transcend, and Zyf) are ALL scum, I am gonna be soooooo mad at you guys.

[Xkfyu]

BlackStar, how the hell can you not buy that Saru is town, AND vote Zyf in virtually the same breath?

you're not reading carefully
scroll up to the first few posts

Oh lol. I totally missed your scum claim.

You post too much.

[Xkfyu]

BlackStar, how the hell can you not buy that Saru is town, AND vote Zyf in virtually the same breath?

I wanted to see what he'd say and if any scum would see it as an opportunity to jump on the wagon.

UNVOTE:

Wait, so you didn't vote Zyf because he claimed Mafia Rolecop?

[Xkfyu]

I apologize to anyone who has to read my

now 2-page

iso

There is no way I'm ever reading that.

[Xkfyu]

VOTE: Tiershift
for his 143 where he talked about his scum buddies bussing him.

Oh yeah! That's what it was that made me hate Tiershift.

[Xkfyu]

UNVOTE: Vedith

VOTE: TierShift.

[Xkfyu]

I'm still waiting for other reasons Saru is scum.

He's not scum, I've already said that.

Unfortunately, you probably aren't either...

[Xkfyu]

There's no need for personal insults. And you literally said "if anyone should be getting lynched, it's me". It's not idiotic to intrepret your post the way I did

Dude...

Context.

[Xkfyu]

He's not scum, I've already said that.

Unfortunately, you probably aren't either...

So why was he pushed for such weak reasons.
I mean, maybe I'm missing something, but I can't see any other case.

Who do you think is scum then? And reasons.

He was initially being pushed for WKing your slot, which was fine with me, until Saru convinced me he was town. Then, all hell broke lose and I have no idea what was or wasn't said about the case on him because it happened too fast.

As for my full list of reads, I'm getting to that. I've already promised Zyf I'd post them soon.

[Xkfyu]

I'm working on the case against Saru. Hold on for a while

And you wonder why you are constantly mislynched...

[Xkfyu]

I'm working on the case against Saru. Hold on for a while

And you wonder why you are constantly mislynched...

What? I don't have cases prepared on everyone just waiting to be used. I have suspicions about people and then when it gets really strong or someone asks me for a case, then I make one.

Lol once again, you don't read context.

I was talking about the fact that you still believe there to be a case on Saru, not that you didn't have one ready to lay out.

[Xkfyu]

I'm working on the case against Saru. Hold on for a while

And you wonder why you are constantly mislynched...

What? I don't have cases prepared on everyone just waiting to be used. I have suspicions about people and then when it gets really strong or someone asks me for a case, then I make one.

Lol once again, you don't read context.

I was talking about the fact that you still believe there to be a case on Saru, not that you didn't have one ready to lay out.

That has nothing to do with context. Your post could've been read either way. If you want people to understand you, say what you mean instead of being snarky. And there is a case on Saru. I just made it

You're right. My bad.

We still aren't lynching Saru, though.

[Xkfyu]

Ok Zyf, here are my reads, just like I promised.

Town

:

Gerry

- Posts 209 and 302

Saru

- Post 585

Transcend

,

Sonia

,

Zyf

- All town, Too much to explain. Please don't make me.

Null

:

BlackStar

Lowell

texcat

Scum

:

algebra

- Weak reason for such a strong town read in Post 36. Actually, now that I've gone be to see this, I'm gonna vote him for this, and his weird 55 and 57, which doesn't look at all natural to me.

Mimi

(not with TierShift) - Post 615. I checked the Activity Overview page at the time of this post, and TierShift and MariaR were both listed right next to each other at the bottom of the list (sorted by post count). See my 622.

TierShift

(not with Mimi) - For his reasoning to want to lynch Gerry in Post 143.

UNVOTE: TierShift

VOTE: algebra

[Xkfyu]

mfw xkfyu town reads all 3 mafia can I kms now or later

Yeah, I know you still think Transcend and Zyf are buddies, and I still think you're letting your emotions get the best of you.

Who's the third scum that I'm town reading though?

[Xkfyu]

Mimi

(not with TierShift) - Post 615. I checked the Activity Overview page at the time of this post, and TierShift and MariaR were both listed right next to each other at the bottom of the list (sorted by post count). See my 622.

I said that I was looking at them because of their post count because it felt like we had lurkers. This is no secret.

FWIW your list of Town-->Scum is almost exactly the list based on post count (me being the exception).

Yeah, but I don't think you looked at them. I think you just looked at the Activity Overview and claimed that you "hated" them. If you had ACTUALLY looked at them, you would have remembered that MariaR was actually Sonia.

[Xkfyu]

Mimi

(not with TierShift) - Post 615. I checked the Activity Overview page at the time of this post, and TierShift and MariaR were both listed right next to each other at the bottom of the list (sorted by post count). See my 622.

I said that I was looking at them because of their post count because it felt like we had lurkers. This is no secret.

FWIW your list of Town-->Scum is almost exactly the list based on post count (me being the exception).

Yeah, but I don't think you looked at them. I think you just looked at the Activity Overview and claimed that you "hated" them. If you had ACTUALLY looked at them, you would have remembered that MariaR was actually Sonia.

1) Did I say I hated them?

2) I did look at them, saw a couple comments from each, but obviously limited post counts which indicated lurking to me (clearly wrong on the Sonia one).

3) This only works if I'm terrible terrible noobscum, which A) I'm not a noob and B) I'm not scum.

1) This is what you said:

Hey why don't we hate MariaR or Tiershift more?

That's close enough.

2) And blindly pushing lurkers as scum, when so much else has happened, is scummy.

3) I assume you'll understand if I don't just take your word for it?

[Xkfyu]

O I didn't see ved so I thought you tr him no he's the 3rd scum and i'm just reading all his posts like

"Bs bs bs"

Oh I deleted snake and didn't add Vedith back. He's null for me. I've actually liked his responses since he's replaced in.

[Xkfyu]

HEY GUYS I GOT A SOLID IDEA

IT INVOLVES LYNCHING

THE GUY THAT

HARDCLAIMED MAFIA

WHOSE NAME IS

NONE OTHER THAN

SARU

TRY IT OUT MAYBE

He didn't do that.

[Xkfyu]

Ok Zyf, here are my reads, just like I promised.

Town

:

Gerry

- Posts 209 and 302

Saru

- Post 585

Transcend

,

Sonia

,

Zyf

- All town, Too much to explain. Please don't make me.

Null

:

BlackStar

Lowell

texcat

Scum

:

algebra

- Weak reason for such a strong town read in Post 36. Actually, now that I've gone be to see this, I'm gonna vote him for this, and his weird 55 and 57, which doesn't look at all natural to me.

Mimi

(not with TierShift) - Post 615. I checked the Activity Overview page at the time of this post, and TierShift and MariaR were both listed right next to each other at the bottom of the list (sorted by post count). See my 622.

TierShift

(not with Mimi) - For his reasoning to want to lynch Gerry in Post 143.

UNVOTE: TierShift

VOTE: algebra

Cool
So for all your finger pointing we all end up above your scum pile
Lol
Let me keep catching up

You're welcome.

[Xkfyu]

VOTE: tiershift
still think Vedith is scummy but I can't build any sort of case onto them, so that's not going to end up as a lynch.

Well, since my reasons for scum reading TierShift are apparently shit, what are your reasons for scum reading him?

[Xkfyu]

Oh, and

UNVOTE: algebra

VOTE: TierShift

[Xkfyu]

VOTE: tiershift
still think Vedith is scummy but I can't build any sort of case onto them, so that's not going to end up as a lynch.

Well, since my reasons for scum reading TierShift are apparently shit, what are your reasons for scum reading him?

Complete lack of townie activity

Yeah, and no town players have ever done THAT on this site.

[Xkfyu]

So I guess we agree that he's scum, but hate each other's reasons for the scum read.

[Xkfyu]

What's your reasons then, xk?

His original Gerry vote was an RVS vote, and I think his 143 was just a made up reason to continue to vote the vote leader.

[Xkfyu]

Zyf is slowly losing obv town status. I just want a solid case on him, and i know he'll be tough to iso but please find some time to do it.

Sonia made a fucking fantastic case for why i'm scum

I thought you said everything that Sonia said didn't make any sense?

[Xkfyu]

It's not a policy lynch. It's a scumlynch with a consolation if he's not scum.

Lol now this, I like.

[Xkfyu]

Zyf is slowly losing obv town status. I just want a solid case on him, and i know he'll be tough to iso but please find some time to do it.

Sonia made a fucking fantastic case for why i'm scum

I thought you said everything that Sonia said didn't make any sense?

You seriously couldn't tell that was sarcastic?

No. Sorry, I'm usually pretty good at picking up sarcasm.

[Xkfyu]

I've never heard people call the scum team wolves, but whatever

I have. It's just something some people do.

However, if someone does it, they do it consistently in all their games. Is that the case for Transcend?

[Xkfyu]

I've never heard people call the scum team wolves, but whatever

I have. It's just something some people do.

However, if someone does it, they do it consistently in all their games. Is that the case for Transcend?

No it is not

Show me.

[Xkfyu]

UNVOTE: TierShift

VOTE: Transcend

[Xkfyu]

Right

[Xkfyu]

Tell me another one.

[Xkfyu]

Ok Mimi is town.

UNVOTE: Transcend

VOTE: Zyf

[Xkfyu]

There is no way I'm reading that.

[Xkfyu]

I'll take your word for it.

[Xkfyu]

Anyone who uses the word "noice" must be scum.

[Xkfyu]

nah fuck this
you're not doing idiotic things anymore
you're just being stupid
xk is scum, please kill them

Requesting replacement.

This is ridiculous.

[Xkfyu]

I confirm

why do you feel the need to confirm? cuz your replacee was lying, and you are too?
VOTE: dwlee

Oh, that's just no good, and completely changes my mind on the Zyf/Dwlee slot.

UNVOTE: Dwlee99

VOTE: algebra

[Xkfyu]

As for the votes on Xkfyu, I don't feel they're far-fetched but not all that great. He was the catalyst that got people to jump off my wagon(which scum has no reason to derail in that situation, expect maybe town points for WK), but his own reason for jumping off(that a scum would never claim VT/be suicidal in that situation) felt a little weak, albeit genuine.

That's not at all why I started town reading you. There are many reasons why scum would VT in your situation. Post 585 explains why I started town reading you.

[Xkfyu]

I think we have to stay off of a Zyf/Dwlee lynch, at least for today. Saru's points do make a lot of sense, but it's still hard to believe someone would throw away all usefulness of their PR when they weren't even under real heat. I think Xfkye is the way to go today.

Perhaps I was wrong about you being town.

[Xkfyu]

So is posting 1/4th of the thread's posts lol

Yeah, I'll give you that.

And that's coming from me, who is always at the top of the list, as far as activity goes.

[Xkfyu]

This is ridiculous.

Regardless, we're not lynching a BP claim day 1.
Tomorrow you and Sonia can fanny about in the corner and draw that slot as scum with your new crayons.

Trans needs to be the lynch today. Avoiding confrontation, not scum hunting at all. Anyone town reading Trans I want a proper reason to why.

I agree with you. What was ridiculous was the childish tantrum.

[Xkfyu]

I think we have to stay off of a Zyf/Dwlee lynch, at least for today. Saru's points do make a lot of sense, but it's still hard to believe someone would throw away all usefulness of their PR when they weren't even under real heat. I think Xfkye is the way to go today.

Perhaps I was wrong about you being town.

Because I think you're scum? I thought you were scum before.

Not even a little bit. I really couldn't care less about that.

It's the Saru-is-right-but-I-really-want-to-keep-Dwlee-as-a-lynch-possibility-because-I-know-I-can't-kill-him feel I get from your post.

[Xkfyu]

Vedith, have a look at the posts that Trandscend said he was trolling me in. They start at Post 312 and end at Post 351.

I have some thoughts on them, but I'd like to hear your opinion on them first.

[Xkfyu]

I think we have to stay off of a Zyf/Dwlee lynch, at least for today. Saru's points do make a lot of sense, but it's still hard to believe someone would throw away all usefulness of their PR when they weren't even under real heat. I think Xfkye is the way to go today.

Perhaps I was wrong about you being town.

Because I think you're scum? I thought you were scum before.

Not even a little bit. I really couldn't care less about that.

It's the Saru-is-right-but-I-really-want-to-keep-Dwlee-as-a-lynch-possibility-because-I-know-I-can't-kill-him feel I get from your post.

Are you okay with treating Dwlee as conftown for the rest of the game including LyLo?

That's a ridiculous question. He's not even confirmed town now.

[Xkfyu]

Vedith, have a look at the posts that Trandscend said he was trolling me in. They start at Post 312 and end at Post 351.

I have some thoughts on them, but I'd like to hear your opinion on them first.

Why'd you wait until now to ask this?

I'll answer that after Vedith answers.

[Xkfyu]

Surely you can see there is a middleground then between "kill it with fire now" and "treat as conftown for rest of game". I generally like to give someone a day of no-lynching following a claim I deem somewhat credible. While I do think it's highly likely that it's a false claim, Dwlee's entrance and Saru's points have added some credibility to it to me.

All this does is makes me feel more confident that you are scum.

If Zyf is town, scum aren't gonna NK him becuase they are more than likely going to believe him. If Zyf is scum, he's obviously not going to be NKed. Either way, it's very likely that he's going to make it to at least D2, probably much further. Not lynching claimed PRs, simply because of the claim, is only a valid tactic when the claim makes it likely that the validity of their claim will be resolved via night actions. That's not the case here. In fact, it's the exact opposite.

So, the fact that you seem so sure that he has fake claimed, and yet, you still prefer to lynch me tells me that you are either trying to lynch me while planting a seed for a future mislynch, or you're trying to prolong his lynch without actually defending him, making him your buddy. I'm not particularly sold on the latter, but I either way, I think you're scum.

UNVOTE: algebra

VOTE: Mimikyu

[Xkfyu]

Vedith, have a look at the posts that Trandscend said he was trolling me in. They start at Post 312 and end at Post 351.

I have some thoughts on them, but I'd like to hear your opinion on them first.

Well to me it looks like an attempt to get people Trans played with before (I assume that Sonia and Gerry have played more with Trans than any of us) to town read him with AtE. The reason I think it's fake is because of backing down after with the acknowledgement that he is being toxic in the game and could get forced replaced.

It tells us nothing overall from Trans align and yet, if I read correctly, shows us that Gerry and Sonia are of different align to Trans. I would say Trans is scum.

I don't see any actual trolling on you, and it's just trying to insult to get people to follow.
I can review it later with more surrounding posts, but I don't I'm going to see it as town.

The reason I asked is my initial reaction was that he was telling the truth when he said he was just trolling me. The over-the-top aggression seemingly came out nowhere and it was certainly unwarranted, so I felt like it was kinda unlikely to come from scum.

However, I'm giving some thought to the possibility that he wasn't trolling at first, and just used that as an excuse for his posts, when I didn't back down in the face of his aggression.

[Xkfyu]

That should also answer BlackStar's previous question about why I hadn't asked before now.

[Xkfyu]

I understand all of that. But it's typically a policy of mine that if I believe the claim even a little bit, I give them a day so we can see more from the person and hopefully get a better idea of its credibility.

That still doesn't make any sense. You are clearly scum reading Dwlee really hard, and you continue to do nothing, in respect to him, other than discredit him.

You've already said this:

The problem is this further proof doesn't really exist.

So, what are you hoping to gain by not lynching your biggest scum read? The validity of his claim will not become any more clear without him actually flipping.

If he had claimed something investigative, and you had said something like "You know, I'm not convinced he's town, but I'm willing to let the night actions play out, instead of lynching him," then yeah, I could buy that. But that's not what at all what you're saying. You're saying that you're confident that he is scum, but you don't want to lynch him, even though his claim, in all likelihood, won't be resolved through night actions.

So, tell me again why you don't want to lynch your biggest scum read?

[Xkfyu]

mimkyu is a fine vote.

It is not.

Yeah, Mimikyu has been town as hell

I was previously town reading him as well, but I certainly wouldn't say that he's been "town as hell." What specifically makes you say that?

[Xkfyu]

mimkyu is a fine vote.

It is not.

Yeah, Mimikyu has been town as hell

I was previously town reading him as well, but I certainly wouldn't say that he's been "town as hell." What specifically makes you say that?

He's scum hunting, it doesn't feel like his posts have an ulterior motive and his reads match up with mine for the most part

Ok, I'd mostly agree with you, except for lately. You can't see any ulterior motives in his latest posts? Specifically the ones that I have questioned?

[Xkfyu]

can we lynch blackstar yet

Call me crazy, but I don't think I really want to lynch BlackStar.

[Xkfyu]

@Mod: V/LA for the weekend.

[Xkfyu]

Um...you don't lynch claimed doctor's. You just don't.

[Xkfyu]

Ugh does Town-Transcend really come in and claim at the point he did, even after we all agreed that Zyf's claim was at a horrible?

Does scum Transcend?

[Xkfyu]

BP + Doctor same set up? Nope

By that logic though, one of them has to be town, but you've been saying this whole time that they are both scum.

And don't think you a seasoned player like Transcend with that info in mind would use that same logic against everyone cause I know he would and did

And by that logic, you would have to lynch all seasoned un-counter claimed doctors. Of course he's aware of it, but that doesn't make him scum.

[Xkfyu]

I'm not supporting the Transcend lynch today. I'd be fine with a texcat lynch, but if no one wants to lynch Mimi, I much prefer lynching algebra over anyone else.

UNVOTE: Mimikyu

VOTE: algebra

[Xkfyu]

Now everyone let's get back to lynching transcend

Um...you don't lynch claimed doctor's. You just don't.

[Xkfyu]

Lazy t>s.

1. XS
2. D
3. L
4. V
5. A (secret)
6. Ti
7. B
8. G
9. M
10. Xk
11. Te
12. S

Saru is still your biggest scum read?

[Xkfyu]

VOTE: Dwlee99

I was fine with a 2-Shot Doctor and a 1-Shot BP coexisting, but I'm not buying the 1-Shot BP claim, now that we know the Doctor isn't just a 2-Shot.

[Xkfyu]

Let me know when you two are done behaving like children, and I'll start posting in this thread again.

[Xkfyu]

I have blackstar as to scummy to be scum honestly I guess re reading him and looking at what I called scumhunting was just baseless questions

I'd love to lynch in: Gerry/Ved/Tex//Blackstar

In that order (Dw would be between Gerry and Ved but no one wants to lynch the poor bp claim ;-;)

I want to lynch either Dwlee or Vedith. I'm not really interested in anyone else today.

[Xkfyu]

@Mod: V/LA for the weekend.

(or until the childish bickering ceases, whichever one comes last)

[Xkfyu]

I'm not voting Sonia today, or ever.

[Xkfyu]

During Transcend's fake claim fiasco, everyone was convinced he was scum. The only two who defended him were Dwlee and Vedith. Those two are the only two who I am even considering voting today.

[Xkfyu]

VOTE: Vedith

[Xkfyu]

oh yea, xkyfu is only scum is sonia is scum.
got distracted by that idiotic statement..

How is that an idiotic statement?

[Xkfyu]

During Transcend's fake claim fiasco, everyone was convinced he was scum. The only two who defended him were Dwlee and Vedith. Those two are the only two who I am even considering voting today.

this is idiocracy

Why? Because scum never white knight town?

[Xkfyu]

Because assuming that they ALWAYS do and that one of us HAS to be scum is stupid.

Got it, thanks. My read remains.

[Xkfyu]

Xk either claim or link me your claim post if I have missed it.

Sorry, I didn't know it was my turn.

I'm a VT.

[Xkfyu]

GG scum.

Very well played Sonia.

[Xkfyu]

And thanks for hosting Smith.