Mini 1800 - Game Over

[Dwlee99]

Hello friends!
pleasure to play with you again too, mathblade.


(ego)

[Dwlee99]

last time I checked I wasnt scum?
want me to check again

[Dwlee99]

Would rather you gave some thoughts as your slot has been empty for quite some time.

Hi, btw

Havent read anything yet, Im planning to do that once I get on the computer as I didnt have it yesterday.
@Mathblade that post was bad but that is all Ive seen of dier so idk

[Dwlee99]

Oml I still dont have the computer. My mom forgot to put it back and she is on the phone.
TeenageStruggleTho

[Dwlee99]

Oh yea I needed to read this and then the site went down. might settle for just reading on my phone cause tomorrow I think I need to do something with the top soil in the garden so idk when I could read tomorrow and YEA

[Dwlee99]

Also game seems dead be talkative I didnt replace in to be rolling in this apathy

[Dwlee99]

Is the sickofit slot dead? I wanna vote it

[Dwlee99]

Oh they were wingback. Time to keep reading

[Dwlee99]

1336 posts.
Wingback, what the fuck

[Dwlee99]

zzz nvm the iso feature is just highkey broken

[Dwlee99]

@Mathblade, why would a hypothetical scum-Masquerade quickhammer Johnny if all the other lynch options (Dierfire, Mathblade) are town? You say Dierfire is a bad pick and I'm assuming you think you are town.

Masquerade's hammer makes the most sense if he's scum with one of Mathblade or Dierfire, and Johnny is town. I'm guessing he saw the case on Dierfire and qubixes agreeing and panicked at the possibility of a last minute switch. I don't buy for a second that there would be "apathy and no flip" when there are more than two days left to deadline. Also think if Masquerade was town, he'd at least give Johnny time to claim after hammer intent was stated. There was a four minute gap between his intent and hammer.

I need to thoroughly re-read Saru as well. In my notes I had him as town for his angry/genuine response to Persivul and his breakdown of Kappy's logic in Post 237. But his later posting has been a cause for concern.

Actually, no. No. I'm not going to risk another unvote and end up with apathy and no flip.

VOTE: Johnny

uhm hello town yo

[Dwlee99]

That hammer was awful someone tell me why masquerade isnt being lynched rn
VOTE: Masquerade
Hopefully someone will come talk to me I dont wanna read anymore it is hard to put myself in the mindset trying to look at the game from what the game state was at the time of the posts I was reading without being a part of it.

[Dwlee99]

Reading is so painful you have no idea.
I will iso dier and see what I think.

[Dwlee99]

Reading is so painful you have no idea.
I will iso dier and see what I think.

Its cute that dwlee is going to actually read. I want to say "SUCKER!" but I stopped myself. Reading is good.
Fire = Lazy.

Normally I dont rrad when I replace in but there were so little pages and then I tries to read them and got to like page 4 and I wanted to die it was bad times. Then I iso'd the night kill and just looked at his later posting.

[Dwlee99]

With regard to the point that I've been pushing, I did dig up a similarly indirect attack with similar wording (underlined) from karnos in a game that he played as Town.

The way you are jumping at his defense

is rather interesting

, given that Ranger was under the same number of lynch votes and you certainly didn't jump out at the person who put her at -2 L. My understanding is that this game doesn't have Masons. There is no way you could know transcend is innocent, yet you are acting as if you are positive he is.

Very odd

.

I still think that this is slightly different from his 382 in this game, and I'm not inclined to give a pass to the behavior, because it feels most like the point is to turn aside criticism by threatening a confrontation (his 396 certainly makes it clear that he thinks it unlikely that MechaGoomba actually revealed knowledge of how many Mafia players we have).

A quick (and admittedly somewhat rushed) read through the games mentioned earlier leaves me believing the argument advanced by qubixes in 372 that karnos is playing this game more carefully and cautiously than those earlier games (in which he was Town). In a few instances (such as his comfort with chasing wagons to L-1 in the game referenced above), this might be a matter of learning, but even then he seems to have taken an odd lesson from it in 56 (someone mentioned this already, but the point is that it's strange for him to be worried about being implicated if someone else drove a quick lynch and he happened to be on the wagon).

I agree with qubixes in 546 and disagree with Masquerade in 542--I can think of reasons why a Mafia player would want to hear more discussion (to buy time to turn the lynch somewhere else, to allow partners to plan night actions) or at least to claim to want to hear more discussion (to appear proactive and therefore Town).

UNVOTE: Kappy
VOTE: karnos

UNVOTE: karnos

I've changed my mind; we still have many players catching up, and I don't feel that I have a good handle on what's going on in the last few pages. I'm not ready for claims/lynches at this point.

Expect my return within 24 hours.

I'm still not entirely certain what's going on here, but I think that I know enough.

VOTE: karnos

THIS IS L-1 (AGAIN) FOR KARNOS

UNVOTE: karnos

He could be lying, and he certainly could be a Mafia Neapolitan, but now that he's locked into a claim we'll have more information to judge his alignment as the game continues (in addition to his results, we can also judge whether Neapolitan is more likely to be Town or Mafia if we see some other Town/Mafia roles flip, or after mass claim).

I'll look at JohnnyFarrar next, and Kappy is still on my list of suspicious characters.

intent to hammer

the karnos dierfire associative tells are real af

[Dwlee99]

I think you might actually be town from how stupid that was.
God two bad hammers in a row. Dank maymay

[Dwlee99]

@Karnos @Qubixes
What are your reads looking like?

[Dwlee99]

I haven't even seen saru post o.O

[Dwlee99]

God two bad hammers in a row. Dank maymay

What? How do you know it's a bad hammer when we haven't even seen the flip yet? And if you are so sure he is town, WTF did you give intent to hammer?

even if he flips scum that was a bad hammer you plebian

[Dwlee99]

Not sure if mod got my pm. V/LA until July 17th

[Dwlee99]

So hi guys what is up

[Dwlee99]

I agree with lynching cop day before lylo

[Dwlee99]

I hope you will understand I am on vacation right now and mafia isn't my first priority, I am around to talk to people in my games but going through and rereading the thread and trying to make connections to things isn't for me this week (don't like rereading anyway cause I don't really get much out of it but oh well).
My thoughts on the game rn are mainly math blade town. I feel that their frustration to the pushes on them is a town frustration. Titus can't read me like always so she could be doing that or be trying to mislynch me. In regards to (magna?) saying my callout of the hammer was bad, the hammer was bad because it was random when we still had some time for me to talk more (I declared intent but was planning on waiting at least a day) and their reasons for it seemed kind of bad. I think if the hammer was scum that means Titus is scum because I remember very clearly in cyberpunk where Titus wanted me to derp hammer diamondsentinel with a sheep vote so I can see her directing that her as well. The uncounterclaimed investigative is interesting, mass claim might be good since we are well in the game at this point. That is where I'm at right now

[Dwlee99]

Directing that hammer*

[Dwlee99]

Titus why did you ignore my big thought post if you are town

[Dwlee99]

Karnos makes sense with titus, math.

[Dwlee99]

I hope you will understand I am on vacation right now and mafia isn't my first priority, I am around to talk to people in my games but going through and rereading the thread and trying to make connections to things isn't for me this week (don't like rereading anyway cause I don't really get much out of it but oh well).
My thoughts on the game rn are mainly math blade town. I feel that their frustration to the pushes on them is a town frustration. Titus can't read me like always so she could be doing that or be trying to mislynch me. In regards to (magna?) saying my callout of the hammer was bad, the hammer was bad because it was random when we still had some time for me to talk more (I declared intent but was planning on waiting at least a day) and their reasons for it seemed kind of bad. I think if the hammer was scum that means Titus is scum because I remember very clearly in cyberpunk where Titus wanted me to derp hammer diamondsentinel with a sheep vote so I can see her directing that her as well. The uncounterclaimed investigative is interesting, mass claim might be good since we are well in the game at this point. That is where I'm at right now

This is my thought post

[Dwlee99]

Karnos makes sense with titus, math.

Die.

P.s. Try and fight me. You'll lose.

me losing doesn't make you any less scum tho
Then I can say post game "I tried to lynch Titus but no one listened wahhh"

[Dwlee99]

I hope you will understand I am on vacation right now and mafia isn't my first priority, I am around to talk to people in my games but going through and rereading the thread and trying to make connections to things isn't for me this week (don't like rereading anyway cause I don't really get much out of it but oh well).
My thoughts on the game rn are mainly math blade town. I feel that their frustration to the pushes on them is a town frustration. Titus can't read me like always so she could be doing that or be trying to mislynch me. In regards to (magna?) saying my callout of the hammer was bad, the hammer was bad because it was random when we still had some time for me to talk more (I declared intent but was planning on waiting at least a day) and their reasons for it seemed kind of bad. I think if the hammer was scum that means Titus is scum because I remember very clearly in cyberpunk where Titus wanted me to derp hammer diamondsentinel with a sheep vote so I can see her directing that her as well. The uncounterclaimed investigative is interesting, mass claim might be good since we are well in the game at this point. That is where I'm at right now

This isn't a thought post. This is narrative crafting protect me from Titus posting.

Call me when you have reads to discuss.

Zzz
Math blade town
U / Karnos are a possible scum pairing

[Dwlee99]

That post may have convinced me

[Dwlee99]

Same

[Dwlee99]

Firebringer (replaces The Bulge (replaces Chumba))
MathBlade (replaces Snork)
MagnaofIllusion (replaces species)
Saru
MechaGoomba
Titus (replaces Kappy)
Dwlee99 (replaces Persivul)
Masquerade (replaces Mizzytastic)
karnos
Is this living player list accurate

[Dwlee99]

Neopolitan claim
with masons
is a scum claim
zzzz

[Dwlee99]

Kinda salty I got wagon'd so quickly while on V/LA, cant say I played too well though so whatever.

[Dwlee99]

Neopolitan claim
with masons
is a scum claim
zzzz