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I think a fair question would be why do you think he's town? I haven't seen a town move from him
I forget what it was but his entrance set me off as bad, and then he set me off again when he took advantage of the weird counter-scout current that happened a few pages ago and tried to wagon him, and he hasn't moved on from there. Scout seems like an easy town target
because I scumread himIn post 380, Tommy wrote:
Don't like that, but I'm town-reading you overall.In post 359, Dunnstral wrote:Don't agree with them being scum based on what was provided, but could see it with more information
Why?
Why?
dude you should, I did its really not that bad. Most of it is just Dunn and Zach bickering about Rask anywayIn post 386, nnn_thekushmountains wrote:oh I definitely won't be reading page 1-16 in it's entirety.
What do you mean there's no evidence he's figuring out the game? Can you read his mind? Give him a pass for now imoIn post 414, Raskolnikov wrote:
He's been popping in the whole game throwing shade at people and asking lazy questions.In post 409, Transcend wrote:So I iso'd literally all of Shotty's posts, and you think this is the scummiest candidate? Tell me something I'm missing if you think this slot is scummy. It just looks like you're being opportunistic towards this guy. And then your vote on Blue Yoshi is also ick.
Mostly from a motivational standpoint I see him intentionally being useless/active lurking; no followup on the questions or conclusions drawn or really any pushing.
No evidence to suggest he's figuring the game out and with half of his questions being on fluff and dumb technical-details I really doubt it's a priority either.
JarJar, ISO Jar JarIn post 422, nnn_thekushmountains wrote:oh I won't be replacing out.
Who is the scummiest person for me to filter?
I couldn't possibly be more bored of the trend against drmy, and the bickering between Transcend/Rask
Lets get more votes on JarJar, good things will happen when this slot is feeling pressured-
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Welcome backIn post 445, Transcend wrote:Anyways: People were V/LA for Memorial Day most likely. The ante for this game and its content should be upped a bit. Kudos to everyone for not replacing out yet.
PEDIT: Fine. VOTE: JarJarDrinks
Still don't feel good about Rask but this needs pressure.
dude pull your shit together lmaoIn post 446, nnn_thekushmountains wrote:what is "LAMIST"?-
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Dude I feel like you are making a huge attempt to argue semantics with me rather than address the meat of my argumentsIn post 459, JarJarDrinks wrote:
You forgot? You know you're allowed to go back and read previous pages right?In post 444, Bacde wrote:I forget what it was but his entrance set me off as bad
Can you explain what it was about my entrance that was "bad"?
LIAR! I pretty much STARTED the anti-scout stuff, I didn't "take advantage" of anything. Also you're calling it a counter? Who is it countering?In post 444, Bacde wrote:and then he set me off again when he took advantage of the weird counter-scout current that happened a few pages ago and tried to wagon him
First off: I hadn't made a single post since then.In post 444, Bacde wrote:and he hasn't moved on from there.
Second: Why is it scummy to keep my vote on my scumread?
Why can't scout be scum?In post 444, Bacde wrote:Scout seems like an easy town target
Like, who cares the exact reason I didn't like your first post? Do you think that someone not liking a first post is going to have a STRONG reason as to why its bad anyway? Its mostly gut but for your sake I'll go back and reread and let you know exactly what it is
Here's what I remember about the scout situation: most people were townreading or nullreading him, then he started posting a lot and freaking out and seemingly generally newbie and saying "I'm gonna be n1ed or lynched d2 because I'm so out there", and then people were weirded out by him and going "what the heck man", and then you voted him. It looked like an opportunistic vote that wasn't actually accomplishing anything besides trying to either hide your vote or see if you could get a bandwagon going on someone who I read as town. Why are you making a point about the definition of the word "counter"? It was counter-scout, as in, going against scout. I don't see what there is to be confused about here but go ahead and clarify if I'm missing something.
I'm not keeping exact track of your posts but I mean, if your next post had been "oh nvm scout seems town actually" after my vote I might have moved it away from you.
I don't have an answer for why scout can't be scum besides that I townread him. What do you want me to say here? He hasn't done anything scummy. Unlike you. Also here's your first post:
I remember why I didn't like it now. You hopped on the Rask wagon, which was a boring and weak vote that was easily ignorable on a boring and unimpressive wagon, kind of like you want to hide. Correct me if I'm wrong.In post 101, JarJarDrinks wrote:strongly townreading Dunn. I think he was right when scumreading Rask.
I don't really like Zach as scum though. I can see him making that post as a joke.
VOTE: Raskolnikov
There's several Rask posts I don't like. Gonna point em out in a few.
Just fyi guys, I'm mostly an emotional and tone type player. Solid logical arguments can sway me, but the nature of the game as it is means that theres not a lot of solid logical arguments in the game that can't be nullified with a "BUT WHAT IF HE IS SCUM" argument, and there really isn't going to be much solid evidence to go off of on d1
dude you are lazy as hell, I literally posted reasons why I was voting JarJar in that same post. Are you gonna do any work yourself or do I have to make sure to bold your name for every point I make that could be relevant to the game? Because then I would just bold everything I sayIn post 470, Tommy wrote:
Not ready yet. Still got seven pages to catch up. And now three more pages since I last posted. You guys are chatty.In post 393, Transcend wrote:K nice, stop commenting on useless shit and put your vote somewhere, perhaps, on JarJar.
I do not dig this.In post 412, drmyshottyizsik wrote:I prefer sitting back a tad and observing the machine on a sociological plane. I'll get there. So far I don't have any super strong scum reads, and I don't want to get in the way of them developing.
I do not dig this either. Both of you are playing like scum. Give me some content or die.
nnn_thekushmountains's defence of Jar JarDrinks is weak.
All right, now for a bit more catch-up.
This is good. So is Zach's reads list at 244. On the other hand, inspectorscout's reads list at 301 is evasive.In post 242, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
why did you feel the need to even point that out?In post 130, Zachstralkita wrote:that wasnt a scum claim btw i just hate those if ur x then y posts-
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???????????????????????????????i am answering his questionsIn post 487, Trivium wrote:Bacde isn't making a whole lot of sense. Man, answer jarjar's questions at the very least. Gut feeling isn't enough, and if you're going to claim it is you can lynch yourself right off.
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except his reads list is bsIn post 490, Zachstralkita wrote:rr..rroof roof
also a reads list isnt lamist... that uh.......yeah.. no.
he's just following the trends and I haven't seen any critical thinking or spectacular reads from him
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I'm an emotional player but that doesn't mean I don't use analysis or critical thought?In post 500, Trivium wrote:
Your own reads are gut apparently, so that's quite hypocritical.In post 496, Bacde wrote:ok his townread of tommy was a surprise but it definitely doesn't make me think that his reads are in any way shape or form real or based on actual thought, analysis, and conclusion
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dude, its lamist because his reads aren't helpful and the post gives the impression he is doing town work when he isn'tIn post 502, Zachstralkita wrote:
um.......according to youIn post 492, Bacde wrote:
except his reads list is bsIn post 490, Zachstralkita wrote:rr..rroof roof
also a reads list isnt lamist... that uh.......yeah.. no.
he's just following the trends and I haven't seen any critical thinking or spectacular reads from him
what makes you think he is town?
the act of posting reads lists isn't really alignment indicative but it isn't LOOK AT M E I M SO TOWN
WHEN I WAS YOUNG I WAS A HEAT BLOWER REVOLVERS WITH SPEED LOADERS NOW ITS A DRUM IN A TOMMY GUN LOOK LIKE IM SWINGING A LEAF BLOWERIn post 494, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
I think it may be your personality, or that awful avatar, but I hate all of your posts.In post 491, Zachstralkita wrote:my vote might switch to bacde off the strenGTH OF THAT
OR I COULDA GOT HIM SLAUGHTERED AT THE BORDER... BY AN EAST AFRICAN KID THAT I SPONSORED FOR A QUARTER-
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what makes you think I can't explain it?In post 497, JarJarDrinks wrote:Dude seriously? You're reasoning for townreading scout was basically "uh IDK, cause". You can't seriously be trying to move people off his wagon for a gut townread that u cant explain?
He literallyhas not done anything scummy
I explained this already in my earlier post, why are you saying that I'm not explaining myself? You accused me of lying but it seems like you aren't even reading my posts-
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ding ding ding we have a winnerIn post 517, Tommy wrote:
I think this is the kind of 'Aargh I'm going round and round' thought process that's hard for a newbie to fake as scum.In post 346, inspectorscout wrote:And even by saying this, i fucked myself because scum now knows my line of thoughts, too, so they can adapt to what i said.-
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In post 506, Bacde wrote:
I'm an emotional player but that doesn't mean I don't use analysis or critical thought?In post 500, Trivium wrote:
Your own reads are gut apparently, so that's quite hypocritical.In post 496, Bacde wrote:ok his townread of tommy was a surprise but it definitely doesn't make me think that his reads are in any way shape or form real or based on actual thought, analysis, and conclusion
Also counter-intuitivelybeing hypocritical isn't a scumtell, town does it all the timeIn post 516, JarJarDrinks wrote:Missed this earlier
Hey scout, if you think "If X then Y" posts are scummy then should we scumread you for this?In post 265, inspectorscout wrote:Zach, why so arrogant?If you are town you should care about our opinions-
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So you want me to fake a reads list like you?In post 510, JarJarDrinks wrote:In post 508, Bacde wrote:dude, its lamist because his reads aren't helpful and the post gives the impression he is doing town work when he isn'tIn post 499, JarJarDrinks wrote:Please point out some spectacular reads that you've made thus far...
if you've been reading my posts it should be clear who my townreads are, but I can spell it out for you
I townread transcend dunn and scout still,
I scumread you
I have a good enough feeling about tommy, zach, and trivium to address them and talk to them without making fun of them, which you would translate as a "townlean" if I was trying as hard as you to make a big deal out of how town I am with a reads list
Still no real read on drmy or raskol or blueyoshi which means I don't scumread them. If anyone wants to point out why they are scum I'm all ears, but right now I think they are getting way too much attention when we can just lynch them later if they are still being useless. Being useless d1 isn't really a scumtell. Continuing to be useless through d4 definitely is-
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I figure if I repeat myself enough you'll make some sort of argument as to why he is town
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This is you arguing with me about semantics and pretending to have caught me in some sort of trap, lmaoIn post 541, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Because that's what you said.In post 518, Bacde wrote:
what makes you think I can't explain it?In post 497, JarJarDrinks wrote:Dude seriously? You're reasoning for townreading scout was basically "uh IDK, cause". You can't seriously be trying to move people off his wagon for a gut townread that u cant explain?
In post 478, Bacde wrote:I don't have an answer for why scout can't be scum besides that I townread him.
Asking me "Why can't scout be scum" is a COMPLETELY different question than "Why do you townread scout"
Your quote of me in 478 is me answering your question as to how its impossible to answer "Why can't scout be scum"
ANYBODY can be scum homie
If you actually cared about my reads then after I said "I townread scout" you would have asked me "Why do you townread scout" (a question you have never asked me), not assume I have no reasons
I've already explained multiple times why I townread scout, he hasn't done anything scummy, he is flailing around like town, he is saying things that don't make sense from scum
Why don't you care that a lot of other players in the game townread scout too?
Heres my question for you: If you scumread me (and it seems like you are pretending to scumread me), why haven't you voted me? Why are you waiting for other players to vote me before you feel confident enough to vote me?
You are scum scum scum
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I thinkIn post 539, drmyshottyizsik wrote:See alpaca I disagree, I thinkday one scum have much more to gain by knowing where everyone stands.After n1 and observable actions have been performed, then info comes in. Right now we have to solve a riddle with out knowing the specifics of riddle the answer or having any clue. So, unless you are trying to screw up the people solving the riddle why do you need to know early on who think what about the answerless, questionless and clue less puzzle. Day two is when people start to solve things, based off of day one. In other words day one I greatly prefer to have everyone go at it and have high powered wagons. Sometimes good information comes from this day 1 and we could get lucky and catch scum. However, statistically town is usually lynched day one and it is based on day one that we will have a place to start day 2.some playersare trying to misconstrue me playing my cards close to my chest as me "not having reasons" for my reads and actions, when this couldn't be further from the truth
Moving drmyshotty to my town pile-
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Stop it.In post 555, JarJarDrinks wrote:All I'm doing is answering your question about the reason I think you can't explain your townread.
This right there.
Stop saying "I can't explain my townread"
I've explained it like 3 times
Who is being confusing, me or you?
Because its hard for me to believe that you aren't intentionally misdirecting the town when you are lying about my actions-
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The bolded part is a town sentiment. One that I agree with. And one similar to the way I'm playing today as well.In post 553, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:
I am genuinely confused by what you mean/what you are inferring, why you have bolded that part of Shotty's post, and why this makes Shotty town. Mind explaining?In post 550, Bacde wrote:
I thinkIn post 539, drmyshottyizsik wrote:See alpaca I disagree, I thinkday one scum have much more to gain by knowing where everyone stands.After n1 and observable actions have been performed, then info comes in. Right now we have to solve a riddle with out knowing the specifics of riddle the answer or having any clue. So, unless you are trying to screw up the people solving the riddle why do you need to know early on who think what about the answerless, questionless and clue less puzzle. Day two is when people start to solve things, based off of day one. In other words day one I greatly prefer to have everyone go at it and have high powered wagons. Sometimes good information comes from this day 1 and we could get lucky and catch scum. However, statistically town is usually lynched day one and it is based on day one that we will have a place to start day 2.some playersare trying to misconstrue me playing my cards close to my chest as me "not having reasons" for my reads and actions, when this couldn't be further from the truth
Moving drmyshotty to my town pile
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I apologize, I should have phrased it "In post 555, JarJarDrinks wrote:ANd how do you seriously say that I'm the one who's arguing semantics when this is you're next sentence?weare arguing about semantics instead of being productive to the game" instead of "You arguing with me" which to me means the same thing
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I've been asking people why they townread youIn post 560, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Why don't u care that a lot townread me?In post 547, Bacde wrote:Why don't you care that a lot of other players in the game townread scout too?
Are you just not very aware of whats going on? lol Maybe you really do think I haven't explained my read on scout
I mean sure, its an easy out. But its also something that was townie from drmy, definitely not scummyIn post 563, AlpacaAlpaca wrote: @Bacde - Ok if thats how you see it, I see it as an easy out but I also like to nit pick people
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Are you saying that I'm decent or that you are decentIn post 735, Transcend wrote:As one of the only decent players in the game, I want your opinion on my reads.
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Sorry, I've really been slacking on this game
I have an upcoming board exam and I've been studying hard, in addition to the recent weekend
I have been running this game over in my head though. I haven't really caught up on anything new today but I have a serious question--Why are there not more votes on nnn? He went way up my scumdar with his stupid hammer vote yesterday and iirc he is experienced enough to know to not hammer stupidly. I'm still cool with lynching JarJar based on yesterday but does anyone want to compromise on nnn? Because I'm not feeling a scout lynch and it looks like its all the same people on scout/jarjar respectively
Unless anyone has any new arguments based on today as to why we should lynch scout, again I haven't really seen today stuff-
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I'm not seeing that association between scout and kushIn post 874, JarJarDrinks wrote:It is kinda crazy that kush has received basically zero pressure.
But in my mind the only scum motivation for the quickhammmer is if he believed that shotty escaping the noose meant it was likely that a scumbuddy would get hanged instead. And since the most likely candidates @ that point were only myself and scout, I'd prefer to hang scout before hanging kush. If scout were to flip red then I'd look hard @ kush.
What town motivation does kush have for quickhammering? It was clearly stated on the same page that he voted that drmy was at L-1, there's no way he missed it
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Hey guys I haven't really been able to see the game but I'm still most interested in running up Jarjar or possible nnn_kushdude
really not interested in running up scout or lowell
Also I guarantee scum was on the lowell wagon with how quickly it built up and dissipated like a dude in manic psychosis-
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Cross referencing these two stupid-ass wagons, I wouldn't be surprised if scum was on both, leaving Raskol and Alpaca as places that deserve more attention
Mind you, this is only because you idiots aren't willing to put more pressure on Jarjar
I'm also highly interested in whatever nnn_kushdude's replacement has to say
Vote: Alpacaalpaca
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wait what just happened why is it twilightIn post 1579, Infinity 324 wrote:I just wanna see bacde's reaction when he gets back cause he knew me from like 3 years ago and it's a hilarious coincidence that he said "i wanna hear what the kush's replacement has to say"
hi bacde
PEdit: It's fine that's probably not correct but look into those people if youreallycan't find scum-
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oh I didn't see he gave reads?In post 1621, Transcend wrote:In post 1619, Bacde wrote:I bet this is a scumflip tbh
maybe but i doubt he wasted my time by giving me reads that didn't matter as scum.
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I can guarantee you this is wrongIn post 1630, JarJarDrinks wrote:reading Rasks ISO, I'd say that he had a green-check on Triv.-
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Which post? I'm not sure I'm seeing what you are trying to point outIn post 1700, Trivium wrote:I would like everybody to really ISO zach. Especially his reaction to my blatant buddying and WK'ing.-
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I can buy this reasoning but...In post 1717, JarJarDrinks wrote:Reason I think he had a greencheck on triv is cause of this exchange.In post 1415, Infinity 324 wrote:Also what made you change your opinion on triviumIn post 1416, Raskolnikov wrote:Triviums town because hes super committed and zoned in onto his scumreads and his pushes are honest
it goes against my guarantee
I'm not sure how I feel about lowell, I still think he's a cop out FOS for people
I think scum have been awfully misleading in this game and I'm trying to figure things out-
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so you think if I just softclaimed the correct townie move is to try and pressure me to make me hardclaim?In post 1785, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Not possibly. I think he should absolutely hardclaim.In post 1771, Transcend wrote:This legitimately reads like my two scumreads pushing on a PR soft to get them to possibly hardclaim.
And why would I even bother trying to get him to claim as scum? If I'm scum, I keep quiet and just kill him tonight.
I think he's probably scum. But on the off chance he's town and just made a terrible mistake, he's gonna get killed tonight anyway.
your response is veerrryyyy interesting to me
I think you and I both know its not in town's interest to pressure me about that post-
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why does it "benefit scum"?????????In post 1831, Zachstralkita wrote:a jarjar wagon benefits scum too much. you guys are going to ML on him i'm pretty sure of that-
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