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Man my dilemma is I really want to lynch JarJar but I also want to really fucking lynch Infinity and I don't think they're on the same scum team. I highly believe that if JarJar is mafia that Tommy is too. If Infinity is mafia then Tommy is town. This isn't that much of a dilemma but I really want to make the right lynch today.-
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hey infinity i have a question
you took post #1337 which is LEET. it has a string of quotes that suggest trivium is mafia, but i've confidently tr'd him all game. if i take my time to read it will my time be wasted?
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if you answer yes and it's garbage i will permavote you for making such a bad use of post #1337.-
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[] yesIn post 1346, Infinity 324 wrote:
I think it's a good case that's why I made itIn post 1343, Transcend wrote:hey infinity i have a question
you took post #1337 which is LEET. it has a string of quotes that suggest trivium is mafia, but i've confidently tr'd him all game. if i take my time to read it will my time be wasted?
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if you answer yes and it's garbage i will permavote you for making such a bad use of post #1337.
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i'm perfectly capable of being wrong. we have 3 weeks to make a decision. it's in my best interest to ask all the questions i need to find all the information i need to properly make a vote that forwards me closer to my wincon.In post 1354, Infinity 324 wrote:Also transcend I want to know why you wanted your top scumread to tell you whether he should try and convince you someone else is scum when he is in danger of being lynched-
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And the world's most scummiest vote goes to..... you!!!!!In post 1358, Infinity 324 wrote:
I think you're town and like this post except for that part how about you vote trivium with meIn post 1357, Lowell wrote:I don't support the infinity wagon. I've liked his entry
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distance from his scumpartner, infinity
Here, I'll start the wagon off for you
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VOTE: trivium
I like how you turned a noun into a verb.In post 1359, Zachstralkita wrote:can we just casket infinity already
PEDIT: i think he's too paranoid and stubborn and i don't like the way he reads people. that being said, his tone suggests he's probably town.-
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i'm definitely a player who reads off of tone. i do analyze content as well, but my reads are primarily based on tone. i've found that as scum it's more easy to bs content than it is tone.
but, not everyone plays the same game as me and to each is his own.
but infinity, I just don't get it. 2 pages before you made your vote on trivium, you said he was "scout-level" towny. you said that out of the block of {Zach, JarJar, Trivium} you said that JarJar was the most likely candidate to be mafia, and I liked that. But it looks incredibly fake that you tossed that read out the window to pursue a very bad lynch on Trivium. your 180 doesn't look genuine to me. the case you gave doesn't seem genuine. and your tone in your past 10 or so pages has been very off-kilter.-
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to answer your point about paranoia and stubbornness not acting well together, lemme be the first to explain that his paranoia and stubbornness wasn't simultaneous. at BoD he was super stubborn about wanting me or scout lynched. which imo, looks towny because it was consistent and i felt he genuinely did scumread our slots. now come towards EoD when more people have given tells for trivium to work with, his paranoia came in to play to where he wasn't so sure about me/scout being mafia and had other candidates in mind. i feel like i'm the same way. i can be stubborn initially then if my scumread starts to towntell, or another slot starts to scumtell, then i start to get frantic and consider my options and become less stubborn. i really doubt you can say that triv's tone with aspects of paranoia and stubbornness were simultaneous.-
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fair 'nuffIn post 1373, Infinity 324 wrote:The fact that i read almost everyone as town clearly means I was off on some reads. So I decided to re-evaluate everything.
I said I was gonna do some research, part of that involved ISOing trivium and part of it involved finding dunn's reads before he died. Since I read too many people as town, I decided to change my mindset and start looking at what players were doing from a scum mindset. Trivium's ISO fit particularly well with that.
PEdit: I re-ISOed jarjar and I think he's town because his wagon-hopping is too obvious to be scum and because he's not afraid to say what he thinks. I also found myself agreeing with a lot of what he said.
I think jarjar is an example of a townie with a scummy tone
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1. Please stop crawling up my asshole
2. Can't be fucked to read an iso for a game i wasn't even in.
3. If you were to get lynched, and flip town most likely it wouldn't change my mind on Trivium. However, I would lynch one of your scumreads named Tommy. Hell, I'd do it today because actions > words.
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In post 1387, Trivium wrote: I'm re-evaluating... everything. Tommy is probably scum
It's as if, you were touched by an angelIn post 1388, Trivium wrote:And also I'm suspicious of jarjar.-
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~Alpaca Slot ISO~
Don't care about his vote on me, but I just realized he put Trivium on the back burner in case my lynch didn't go through.In post 241, Blue Yoshi wrote:VOTE: Transcend
I'm pretty sure that Triv is the most likely to get lynched today but this is better
Do not like his tone in this post.In post 292, Blue Yoshi wrote:
congratulations, you figured me outIn post 291, Trivium wrote:Something about blueyoshi's posts looks like he's thinking more on the track of 'what people want me to say' more than 'what do I think'.
want a medal?
Yuck yuck yuck.In post 335, Blue Yoshi wrote:Third best scumread is drmy for basically the same reasons everyone else says, I can't really come up with anything else on anyone else at this point.
Keeping my vote and position because they're still correct.
Unvotes me because his attempted lynch on me did not gain enough momentum. He didn't even say why he 180'd, nor did he appeal to me to vote one of his other scumreads.In post 371, Blue Yoshi wrote:I guess things happened
Okay so either I completely missed something with Transcend or I just can't read words correctly because he's town when I look at him now
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Kindly direct my vote to where it should go, thinking Trivium or drmy because I should stop trying to figure things out myself and just sheep other peoples's reads.
Manufactured reads list. Please click the spoiler button if you want to gouge your eyes out by viewing the awful reads this player gave.In post 537, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:Ok so that took longer than expected especially because I took a break part way through but I am here now.
Here are my feelings so far in a nice pretty(no actually) read list.
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Wow that took me like an hour and a half of looking through ISO's. Forgive me for not quoting anything yet I don't like massive quote walls in my read list, especially when its 20 pages worth of possible analysis, but this is my current feelings for the game. Also as you go from top to bottom I get more and more tired so my analysis of players at the bottom of my list is probably just plain bad or basic since I was just skimming ISO's at the end.
Don't like his stance on YOLO wagoning. I think it's fine. Never mind that in his manufactured crapshow reads list, he gives the person with the most momentum as his top scumread.In post 545, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:
I am confused are you disagreeing because you are the only one who got a null- or are you disagreeing on the fact that I posted a read list. If it is on the read list thanIn post 539, drmyshottyizsik wrote:See alpaca I disagree, I think day one scum have much more to gain by knowing where everyone stands. After n1 and observable actions have been performed, then info comes in. Right now we have to solve a riddle with out knowing the specifics of riddle the answer or having any clue. So, unless you are trying to screw up the people solving the riddle why do you need to know early on who think what about the answerless, questionless and clue less puzzle. Day two is when people start to solve things, based off of day one. In other words day one I greatly prefer to have everyone go at it and have high powered wagons. Sometimes good information comes from this day 1 and we could get lucky and catch scum. However, statistically town is usually lynched day one and it is based on day one that we will have a place to start day 2.
(I just noticed now it was supposed to be "not actually" not "no actually")As I said it is my feelings at this very moment now that I have caught up. I posted it because IIn post 537, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:Here are my feelings so far in a nice pretty(no actually) read list.specificallywanted people to know where I stand since I just replaced in and my views aren't the same as Yoshi's. If you are honestly mad that I posted a read list on D1 than I am confused because using your argument, and tell me if I'm wrong, we should just wagon somebody that we think is scum but without ever having posted a read list and formed opinions D1, which by the way is litearlly the perfect scenario for somebody to drive a mislynch, and than talk about what we did wrong D2. That sounds like a pretty bad idea to me. Instead of following a statistic and forming your future plays off of past bad mislynches why not attempt to find scum now so we don't mess up? The beginning to that is trying to find actual evidence yolo wagoning D1 is not the way to go about that. Most certainly me posting my opinions won't screw people up if you think it will than feel free to ignore me but you could also be constructive and maybe post something of substance yourself.
TL:DR yolo wagoning D1 is bad and how mislynches happen, posting read lists D1 doesn't ruin the game
This. Post. Is. Terrible.In post 731, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:In my opinion I am currently scum reading Kush since as far as I can tell he is either scum or impulsive town, and I wouldn't want either in the endgame. At best I view him as anti-town, since there really isn't anything beneficial to quick hammering if you are town aligned especially D1 when the odds are much higher for hitting town.
If Kush/Infinity is town and there was a scum that was opportunistic about getting a lynch on Kush it was this player.
Don't like his townread on me. Don't like his scumread on Lowell, pretty sure he was the leading BW at the time just like shotty, but don't quote me on that.In post 800, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:Ok so I think that Transcend is just super arrogant town, I don't think scum would take the chance of going to a battlepath and calling out people in case they accidentally slipped. I also don't like how Lowell came in 620 and basically hopped on a wagon than said he would answer anything but when questioned had dissapeared. But what I really want is nnn's reasoning right now
Yucky vote.In post 884, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:
On top of the only times he's appeared he has thrown a vote than left (though at least he had some explanation this time around) and this above post he doesn't seem too concerned with acting pro town whatsoever, I haven't put a vote down yet but I think if scum is anywhere it's hereIn post 868, Lowell wrote:wait did I hammer? haha fun. LOLHAMMERS are my specialty. It'll be fine.
VOTE: Lowell
He admits fault by starting the shotty bw, but that was not anywhere close to his doing.
With all this said, the Yoshi/Alpaca slot is probably scum. None of their posts read newbtown to me like Infinity suggests.-
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@transcend: stop reading everyone like noobtown, tommy has played more than enough games to not be noobtown. you say infinity is crawling up your ass, but you have been doing the same to me alll the time already. reread your stuff; you have been protecting me all game, even though i didnt really protect you back. Ofcourse it would be stupid to buddy someone who isnt the best townread, is it?[/quote]
Touche. I hate when people buddy me but i do it to others. I'm a hypocrite i guess. Also just realized that Tommy joined in 2008 and now i have to dump that entire read on him.
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VOTE: infinityIn post 1455, Infinity 324 wrote:Note for future: It may not be a coincidence that I keep thinking zach is talking to me as though he knows I'm town.-
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are those two slots your other scumreads?In post 1471, Zachstralkita wrote:ok so... so... why the fuck is no one defending him?
probably cause bacde and rask aren't here atm-
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please read this line closely and tell me with a straight face it doesn't deserve my voteIn post 1476, Infinity 324 wrote:Oh my god you got me in a reaction test this time. I'm an idiot.-
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IVE HAD THAT THEORY ALL GAMEIn post 1494, Zachstralkita wrote:
No bullshit that same theory popped into my headTrivium wrote:I have a theory
Jarjar and infinity
but my dear comrades if my soul is taken tonight then you must burn Raskolnikov without question
it is my last wish
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you're lynched, dude.In post 1540, Infinity 324 wrote:hahahahaha
I bought the fake hammer as a hammer and didn't see the actual hammer
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I can fulfill half of your request. But the other half, I cannot.In post 1547, Infinity 324 wrote:Also please don't lynch alpaca or inspector when I'm gone. Thanks
PEdit: Nope I'm town bro
And no I'm not giving him BOTD because of what you said, because you gave a diehard scumread on Trivium. No offense, but I can't trust your reads over mine.-
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i hate to say it bruv but it's your fault that we couldn't get jarjar/tommy lynched because you kept strongarming badlynches like scout, lowell, and i guess infinity although he was scummy.In post 1580, Zachstralkita wrote:im just so fuckin confused. so many people dodged bullets today.-
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do you think that jarjar is scum? you started casting doubts on him i know trivium did and i think you did as well.In post 1584, Zachstralkita wrote:In post 1582, Transcend wrote:
i hate to say it bruv but it's your fault that we couldn't get jarjar/tommy lynched because you kept strongarming badlynches like scout, lowell, and i guess infinity although he was scummy.In post 1580, Zachstralkita wrote:im just so fuckin confused. so many people dodged bullets today.
prior to the last 3-4 pages you wouldnt have been able to get me to even think jarjar could be scum. and i still think tommy is town.-
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i've been needing to iso that slot too. i iso'd tommy/alpaca because they had less than 50 posts. jarjar's 120 posts is gonna be a doozieIn post 1589, Zachstralkita wrote:
not really but id have to iso that slot ill wait til tomorrow if i surviveIn post 1588, Transcend wrote:
do you think that jarjar is scum? you started casting doubts on him i know trivium did and i think you did as well.In post 1584, Zachstralkita wrote:In post 1582, Transcend wrote:
i hate to say it bruv but it's your fault that we couldn't get jarjar/tommy lynched because you kept strongarming badlynches like scout, lowell, and i guess infinity although he was scummy.In post 1580, Zachstralkita wrote:im just so fuckin confused. so many people dodged bullets today.
prior to the last 3-4 pages you wouldnt have been able to get me to even think jarjar could be scum. and i still think tommy is town.-
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wowIn post 1600, inspectorscout wrote:trivium my wincondition does not involve keeping idiots alive, it is to get rid of all scum. nobody said that idiots shoudl stay alive in the process.-
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In post 1619, Bacde wrote:I bet this is a scumflip tbh
maybe but i doubt he wasted my time by giving me reads that didn't matter as scum.
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