Mini 1796 | May 13th - Game over (Tomato Mafia wins)

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Yo jar jar what up bro

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um hello. feeling pretty disconnected.

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oh I definitely won't be reading page 1-16 in it's entirety.

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its

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oh I won't be replacing out.

Who is the scummiest person for me to filter?

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i mean iso

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depends on who you ask, scumreads right now are extremely personal at this moment, i think nearly everyone is currently accused of scumminess

well you seem sensible to realize that.
who do you think I should iso?

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what is "LAMIST"?

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So JarJar is the only person in this game I've played with. I am about 90% sure he is town.

Mostly I looked at his first case on um.. rask I think?

I don't agree with all his points, but some of them show townie mindset.
Ok people are gonna ask, what exactly shows a townie mindset so I'll find some stuff:

Ironically everyone defending me for no reason is more worrying that dunn possibly confbias tunneling here.

So now he's worried about the people defending him. Even though he voted DRMY for jumping on him. So I guess it's scummy to vote for Rask and it's scummy to defend him?

VOTE: inspectorscout

I just read his ISO and so much fluff. There's like barely any opinions on anyone. And when he finally does give his reads:

Spoiler:

Ok niceee ive got some time

town

Dunn: hes actively contributing, his points seem pretty valid (and is one of the only that doesnt try to make bad jokes) however i do not agree hes 'town leader' because he is just finishing off discussions instead of starting them, nobody is leading this rn

nulltown

Transcend: like, you're readin the same way and you try to contribute. And that 'heavy non game related shit posts' just seems a way to avoid good reasoning and vote him. Still not convinced cuz u seem to buddying dunn and me, and thats slightly scummy

null

Raskol: everyone thought he was scummy, ranted about some emotional stuff and suddenly considered town. Have a bad feeling about that, but his later contributions seem town, so ill keep him at null

Kushmountain: what do u expect he posted once

Tommy: lel


Yah everyone i didnt mention is here too because they didnt post enough yet or just cuz i have absolutely no idea about them yet

nullscum

Drmy:his 'this is scum claim' was pretty ehhh suspicious and i dunno but to me it seemed like he wanted to bait me into a discussion about that. Not as much scum as the others but still (oh and adding exclamation marks 'town wouldnt even think to post that!' just make ur posts seem fake, just sayin)

Zach: tells seem rather forced and farfetched and i still hate his attitude, either he loves memes or hes just trying to spread a shitload of mist + lol my opinions are almost the same as dunn's yet u dont value his opinions WHILE you said u townread him

Yoshi: i still dont get transcend wagon, his reaction to triv was pretty weird , reads are kinda farfetched too. Still unsure about this one tho

it's basically townreading the guy that everyone is townreading and then weak-ass scumreads on 3 of the people that everyone else is suspecting.

And like all of his scum reads are "This guy seems like scum but IDK maybe not."

Just a list of strange reads there. WHy the F does he mention Kush as a null read for making ONE post but then he lumps everyone else in the nulls saying "Yah everyone i didnt mention is here too because they didnt post enough yet or just cuz i have absolutely no idea about them yet"?

And I still want to know what LAMIST means.

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what the hell just happened with that formatting....

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who else do you guys think is scummy?

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Jarjar is the most analytical lynchbait player I've ever seen.

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Jarjar is the most analytical lynchbait player I've ever seen.

lynchbait?

lol, I've never been lynched. Not even close.

I think that last game was the closest I ever came @ L-4.

dude for some reason everyone wants to lynch you this game again.
or at least that's what it seems like.

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yo jar jar what does lamist mean?
you say it a lot and no one knows what it means lol.

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nvm it's actually on google.
lamist = Look at me, I'm so town.

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im only read like 2 pages so I don't actually know what I'm talking about.

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it might be weak but it's not wrong

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Crazy things happen when you don't pay attention.

I don't treat Dunn's "town leadership" position as I've come to recognize it as a towny indicator and I can't tell if all these leads they're chasing {Raskol, Zach, Trivium} are actual intents to scumhunt, as the Dunn/Zach interaction that caused this thread to be more cluttered and annoying to sort through didn't lead anywhere for either person.
The Trivium wagon seems good, kinda bothered by how fast Dunn switched but seeing how easily it is to pinpoint the scumminess in Triv's posts it's understandable.

Troll play is hard to read sometimes but Zach's looks rather town, seeing as he didn't jump too hard on his own defense when Dunn started pressuring him.

I see Raskol's early posts as mostly town so I don't know where people got their scumreads from, but I tend to miss obvious things unless they're explained to me in detail so someone can get on that for me thanks <3
(not that it'll matter since their more recent posts seem even more towny)

Transcend is actually looking poor to me, their heaviest posts are unrelated to the content of the game (#200-201) and trying to be generally uncooperative, and nothing that they've done so far has given town vibes at all.

I really like this post from blue yoshi, so I won't be joining that wagon.

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wow a whole hour of reading. that is really impressive man.

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lol jarjar so townie.

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lol jarjar so townie.

I like .. don't see it. But I wanna give you botd since you have some form of meta with JJD and apparently can read him. I genuinely scumread this slot. Tell me why I'm wrong. And not just wrong but horribly wrong since he's been a confident townread of JJD the whole time.

I've tried for 3 whole minutes to find the case against jarjar and I can't.
I did see inspectorscout jump on him for a misread:

So, you avoid my previous statement and now come back to this. Oh, and you missed something: i was the guy that said those posts are NOT scummy. Honestly, this post just feels like ''I have nothing to say anymore so i reread his iso to find stuff and now i have this omg look'' I've had enough of your 'suspicion' based on reasons that arent even true. next time you ask me something, read what i wrote before and/or read my answer.

VOTE: jarjar

I think Jarjar hones in on somewhat unusual things which makes some people scum read him incorrectly in this game and the last.

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@rask

Spoiler:

What's genuinely concerning is that I have too many townreads at this point.

Between transcend and jarjar transcend's way better but I still have trouble seeing the case against jarjar here.
Can someone summarise it without the gut or tone arguments that I can't actually follow?

I think the main point brought up against him is the inspectorscout vote being lazy and/or opportunistic for voting a newbie player with too harsh judgement. That town would consider the newbie being lost there and talking about fluff as a believable stance for this game rather than assuming malicious intent right away. Though a lot of what makes inspector look town is actually tone and it is possible for someone not to pick up on it.
The thing I would have liked is if he did more of a pressure vote there instead of seeming so quick to decide on inspector scum, but as it is inspector's one of my weaker townreads and I don't even know if he's actually wrong for certain here.

Jarjar reasoning and justification for votes isn't bad though, and it's just that him feeling quick to solidify his reads and happening to scumread what feel like the easier targets at convenient times (could be coincidental tho) cast a bit of doubt here. If he can reasonably fake realistic vote-reasoning then the other things like his motivation and positioning line up enough that he COULD be scum but what I've heard from trans/bacde directly isn't that convincing.

Though jarjar's response to bacde grilling him was okay (liked the bacde interrogation here) I do notice something around this. Earlier jarjar made it clear he wasn't afraid of the people scumreading him and that it was probably 1t 1s; later it feels like he gets more appeasing towards you two and especially 574 582 setting up a compromise wagon with the people on him feels like settling too quickly. Let's see how he reacts to the inspector vote though.

Overall very mixed but still leaning town, though if it is me transcend jarjar all town this game I can already see we're going to have a lot of problems.

how are 3 townreads too many?

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trivium, his playstyle is levels above you. You cannot even begin to understand his playstyle. No one can. It's too ahead of its time.
Trying to get a read on his playstyle would be like an ant trying to read Shakespeare. I think the only way we can catch him is blues.

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Mountains are you paying attention? I just said I don't care what his playstyle is if he does something I think is scummy. I only care about people's playstyle when it doesn't conflict with my own ideas about what is scummy and what isn't.

are you? or was that not an obvious joke?

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i seem to be in troll mode this game. I usually snap out of it around day 2.

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VOTE: drizmyshottysik

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aw snap i forgot about claims

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in retrospect i should have not.

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I think i knew he was at L1 but i forgot to get a claim.

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honestly i had no idea if he was scum or not. he said something that i thought was kinda scummy. I didn't actually filter him though. Mostly I was just kinda bored.