Mini 1787: Peruvian Nightclub Mafia (Game End!)

[Creature]

Hello, what's up?

[Creature]

VOTE: Dunnstral

This "no GF would do that" argument is terrible.

[Creature]

I am male, so use he/him.

[Creature]

Well, gotta go, currently seeing this:

Jake - His hammer looks towny, he already showed intent to hammer Desmond, though, he wasn't overcautious when he wanted to hammer.
Robert - He seemed decently town despite the investigation.
Tyler/Tool - They haven't done anything particularly scummy/indicative, their general motivation looks good so far.
xyzzy - Kind of liked him D1. Haven't done much D2 or D3 to get a read from.
Jaack - Should say, his pushes are pretty terrible.
Bins - I dislike her posts since D1. Her claim is a coincidence, which makes me think she could be some kind of mafia PR.
Dunnstral

Bins

Why you targeted Robert and Dunn?

[Creature]

How I fit scum perfectly? This is surely a pretty opportunistic attack.

[Creature]

1) hammer looks towny, why?

He showed intent, but didn't show much hesitance in his hammer, like I would expect scum to go "Can I hammer?"

2) robert is literally confirmed town so good job

Yep, sorry. Still wanted to add a comment on.

3) tool and i are different people thanks

Like I said, I didn't see anything particularly scummy, just a gut read.

4) that's not really true at all? everyone posted more day 1 than day 2 or 3 and xy has posted readable content on all of those days - which way is your read leaning?

I am currently seeing xyzzy as town.

5) all of his pushes? which ones? why?

Not all of his pushes, I disliked 673, he says his plan was to lynch Robert but decides to lynch h_a first, but in his next post he changes his vote to Robert.

6) what does "her claim is coincidence" mean precisely? Like you're saying she's scum because her results were easy to give? why can't that also be true if she's town

That can, but why can't that also be true if she's scum? I don't liker her behavior at all.

6/6 of these reads seem fake to me

This wasn't a very well thought read. I got time now.

[Creature]

Do you actually think Dunn and Jake are both cops?

[Creature]

Not all of his pushes, I disliked 673, he says his plan was to lynch Robert but decides to lynch h_a first, but in his next post he changes his vote to Robert.

Funny how I literally just quoted that and now that's your reasoning

Funny, because I wasn't sheeping you. I was thinking of 712 which was very questionable.

Do you actually think Dunn and Jake are both cops?

You're not even going to pretend to have read the thread?

I know you and Jake both claimed cop with inno on each other, but still find two cops unlikely.

p-edit: I noticed you were gambiting, but I find it hard to come from a town!you. You showed you were very against these gambits in Newbie 1697 dead thread.

[Creature]

Not all of his pushes, I disliked 673, he says his plan was to lynch Robert but decides to lynch h_a first, but in his next post he changes his vote to Robert.

Funny how I literally just quoted that and now that's your reasoning

Funny, because I wasn't sheeping you. I was thinking of 712 which was very questionable.

Do you actually think Dunn and Jake are both cops?

You're not even going to pretend to have read the thread?

I know you and Jake both claimed cop with inno on each other, but still find two cops unlikely.

p-edit: I noticed you were gambiting, but I find it hard to come from a town!you. You showed you were very against these gambits in Newbie 1697 dead thread.

[Creature]

I was against what happened in that particular game where zach claimed doc as town with a claimed cop and then real doc got quicklynched

And here you make the real cop counterclaim? I don't buy how you "knew" you were going to be checked.

You're also ignoring other things from that game that I would say make me more likely to be town.

Like what?

[Creature]

like the fact that I got hard tunneled on by two town; RC and Zach (and Zach tunneled onto me again when we're both town)

Heh.

And the fact that yes, I made a big case outting Zach as doc using evidence (I was wrong though but blame Zach) which basically shows that there's no way I would've missed Jake's cop tells here

The difference is that you didn't decide to fakeclaim at that game.

[Creature]

One thing I do note is just how little voting Keyser did in this game.

Well, despite the lack of votes, he was genuinely pushing in D1. He can be considered passive at D2, the way he was focused on h_a posts points he wanted to scum hunt by association.

And how low-activity he was too.

Low-activity isn't very accurate, he could be busy or just not in a good mood to play mafia game. Seeing he stated he would replace out if he didn't finish his post, I believe it must be one of it.

That does go against what I remember of his town game,

Would like to see that game.

and Creature's entrance today fits scum very well.

How did you reach to that conclusion?

I am thinking atm that if Creature flips scum then Jaack would be less likely to be partner -- in which case I think I'd be looking at xyzzy based on PoE.

And if I don't?

[Creature]

Also you're ignoring discussion on the game at hand

As I can see, most of the discussion involves me being scum, which is totally wrong.

[Creature]

creature have you read the game in full because it doesn't really seem like you have tbh

I've browsed through all pages before I replaced in.

[Creature]

creature have you read the game in full because it doesn't really seem like you have tbh

I've browsed through all pages before I replaced in.

I believe that.

But then you got your scum role pm and haven't paid attention to current events?

Huh? No.

[Creature]

Feeling pretty confident both scum are on Dunnstral/Jaack/Bins.

Can we lock the game already?

[Creature]

creature have you read the game in full because it doesn't really seem like you have tbh

Yeah, it does seem that way. Which makes this post:

I noticed you were gambiting, but I find it hard to come from a town!you.

...confusing. It looks like he's saying he knew that Dunn was gambiting, but for some reason still asked people if they think Dunn could be cop.

I didn't notice Dunn admitting he was fakeclaiming before I asked that.

[Creature]

So what was your reasoning for voting me over Jake?

What mainly worried is how you barely pushed your counterclaim.

[Creature]

Also a potential slip. If you noticed I barely pushed against jake, shouldn't you be thinking I'm town right now? Or would scum out to cc cop and then not push their counter claim?

I disconsidered you would be fakeclaiming, I didn't expect that.

[Creature]

Let me guess, you'll make me re-read the whole thread.

[Creature]

Well, now I noticed Bins' crumb. If she's not Voyeur, she must've been planning to claim that sometime later. Though, I don't see how much use of her claim she would make besides a bit of town cred for the claim. So her claim is most likely true rather than a coincidence.

[Creature]

Honestly I have no idea why Bins would plan to fakeclaim Voyeur D2.

[Creature]

Hi, don't replace me.

[Creature]

I am here, don't prod me.

[Creature]

Intent to hammer

[Creature]

Going with Dunnstral for this one.

[Creature]

Take out Bins and put xyzzy in that list.

[Creature]

Well, will you lynch Dunn or Jaack tomorrow?