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This is clearly OMGUS and hence proved, that creatures are scum.-
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11 : First red signal of the game. Self-vote by almost50 to prove himself crazy. You would expect him to vote someone else to test reactions. Oh well, this got a reaction from me.
Several posts later : lovely giant is either serious or is joking to be serious. I think latter.
GuyFawkes seems serious about voting lovely giant.
57 : Gale Wing Srock comes out taking everything super serious.
64 : It is possible gale has problems understanding sarcasm. (Future edit : Seems I was mistaking
Continues with his super seriousness. Is eager to create conversations and asks several questions but problem is people have hardly left rvs at this stage.
67 : Don't like Postie's post. Immediate vote to gale and questions his seriousness.FOS : Postie
69 : I like BlueTrin for town. Good post. Contrast to Postie.
87 : Don't like frozen angel's rephrasing of GuyFawkes post "I am just keeping the game in RVS"FOS : Frozen Angel
In fact, GuyFawkes confirms what I thought.
VOTE: Frozen Angel
Lowell insults me because I don't like rvs. Duh, I just don't like it when people are joking around. Frankly it is a boring part of day 1 to me personally. Still tried to participate in it initially because I understand why we need it, but doesn't mean I have to like it.
GWS taking everything super serious and being defensive. I don't like that.
But his emotions make me think he is town.
LovelyGiant agrees with me regarding rvs. Well, at least some one!
Hmm..the amount of effort GWS is putting in questioning others. It is looking a bit weird now. I don't think he is necessarily grasping every answer that he is getting.
120 : Oh man. Serious scum vibes from pista post.FOS : pistachi0n
GWS is going so paranoid that I am 80 % sure he is town. Could be scum but so difficult to imagine scum being overly defensive and paranoid on day 1, unless newb.
Dierfire seems town in 142.
If GWS is town he is doing a good job of distracting town. Actually, I am sure he is town at this point.
In post 155, Gale Wing Srock wrote:In post 133, chilledtea wrote:I will catch up and see if we have truly left rvs by now. Sorry for not posting much.
Can you tell me your thoughts on 131?
I disagree with your analysis.
In post 156, Creature wrote:
For now I disagree on Gale's lynch. I want to hear more from chilledtea, he stopped posting when he received two votes.
Well, now you can share your thoughts. Just tell me why you wanted to hear my thoughts before expressing yours.-
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They are not at all the same? You kind of blamed guyfawkes of stalling the game in rvs. Whereas he was replying to GWS in a joking manner.
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In post 58, GuyFawkes wrote:In post 57, Gale Wing Srock wrote:Wow a bunch of scummy trolls this game lol.
BlueTrin's posts are meh.
VOTE: BlueTrin
Lovelygiant, do you think GuyFawkes is scum or do you think he is trolling?
Creature, is 48 OMGUS or are you still in RVS?
Almost50, lets hope we get to play a while together this game. And I don't think you are crazy, because your catchup post in Open 626 was quiet insightful.
Postie, what do you think about BlueTrin and Lovelygiant?
Chilledtea, I need more than that to vote Creature, because its posts are troll posts at best.
GuyFawkes, I knew a player named Guyett and it was a pain to work along with him, because I thought he was indeed a jester irl (probably his real life passion). Can you tell me if you are trolling or not?
Lowell, I sense the same thing, too stuck up in his mindset wrt the setup. Will come back to this in a bit.
PEdit: Sweet!
not trolling, just enjoying myself during RVS
In post 87, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 60, Lowell wrote:guy is town. GWS is scum. That last post was an obvious try-hard.
I had the complete vise versa read.
why an attempt to end RVS is scummy move and a guy who responded I'm not trolling I' just keeping the game in RVS is town?-
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In post 165, Almost50 wrote:In post 158, chilledtea wrote:11 : First red signal of the game. Self-vote by almost50 to prove himself crazy. You would expect him to vote someone else to test reactions. Oh well, this got a reaction from me.
First one to react "with suspicion" to this is good. Expecting my vote on someone else to get a reaction brings you back to null. A reaction to an early Random Spam Vote is a random indicator itself. My vote on myself is as good as one on just about anyone else for that matter. Just saying.
Not that I've had much experience with such things, but it is said that sometimes you can find the scum partners of a lynched scum by looking at rvs. A self-voting scum during rvs would negate that.-
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I am almost always suspicious of people voting for the most paranoid/weird/difficult to read guy and also giving a reason for it (that is not something to do with the paranoia or so). To me it seems opportunist.
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In post 246, Dierfire wrote:I think that chilledtea is more likely to be Town. His 158 seems like a naturally evolving thought process (not scripted).
I like BlueTrin for Town as already mentioned. Therefore, if I were to vote for someone on the chilledtea wagon, it would be Creature.
I do still think that Gale is Town. I do not have any good reads on those on his wagon, which is concerning and will be my next priority to fix.
Yes, I think I would be OK with a creature lynch personally. He wanted to share his thoughts sometime back but for some reason my lack of activity created a block for him from expressing himself. I thought it was his way of getting away by lurking a bit more.
VOTE: Creature
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I see.
It's like a curse. There is always that one person, absolutely, that one person. Who makes it difficult to read them, sometimes purposefully, sometimes unintentionally, when they are town/scum.
FrozenAngel, if you are town, you realize that what you are doing will confuse everyone? Yes, just amazing that you can roleclaim that way, I am sure that helps the town so much. Also, breaking down like that because of Antihero's questioning? Really? Asking to replace out like that? I am happy that you retracted because I would have lost respect immediately for someone who uses replacements just to make a point.
Do you not realize that town is blind? We don't know who is on our side. BUT you think we should just believe, otherwise we are idiots. It is day 1. We will always be suspicious of others, there is no choice.
Your theatrics could very well now give scum to hide behind. Scum could be bluetrin for eg, who might ask your well-being trying to score townie points. Scum could be me, trying to lecture you to score townie points. Other town is going to look at this, and get more confused unable to make up their mind.
Why do you care so much? Please go have a nice drink and relax. Don't post for some time, come back and see if your lynched, if not re-read and make up fresh readlists. If yes, you can join other games.
DO NOT break over mafia. That is, sometimes the point of the opposite faction. They try to mentally break you, and sometimes if you are town your own faction ends up doing it. You need to be mature about it. It is our responsibility to take our faction to victory, not just gloat at the end that "I was right and you weren't!!! You didn't listen to me so you lost!!" Like, it is your responsibility to convince town as well as being right about your reads. Also it is a game.
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Most of the times I would never even think of voting someone who claimed but I am so weirdly tempted at this point. She is, ultimately responsible for my messed up reads on everyone at this point. Which plays directly onto scum hands.
I think a macho tracker is kind of useless anyway. Maybe we should lynch her.-
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In post 572, Almost50 wrote:In post 562, chilledtea wrote:Most of the times I would never even think of voting someone who claimed but I am so weirdly tempted at this point. She is, ultimately responsible for my messed up reads on everyone at this point. Which plays directly onto scum hands.
I think a macho tracker is kind of useless anyway. Maybe we should lynch her.
That doesn't at all bode well with me. I mean, after I've explained a wild card (universal backup) would bring back a macho tracker into the setup, then you go on and say you want to lynch her because "a macho tracker is kind of useless anyway"???
Well, with the way she is playing scum will be having a great time hiding behind all the chaos. Also, I was kind of half joking.
By the way, if I start acting like a drama queen for the next 5 pages, end it by self-voting at L-2 and then claim 2-shot vigilante, will you believe me?-
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Does no one realize that creature after the theatrics has become completely silent?
Also I am OK with pista lynch too. I think they could be scum, but I thought creature lynch was better.
I think lowell is town, and I actually lean town regarding lovelygiant.
postie could be anything but I am leaning scum atm.
Actually that was what I thought of her before drama but then a lot of fluff happened and she seemed better, but I will give her the deficit of doubt and consider her scum.
Others have hardly posted and AH seemed town initially in his pursuit of creature and fa. Some theatrics later he became absent - this could be because he felt upset or whatever.-
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Creature had done a grand total of 0.00 contribution to this game, and only arrived on scene when pressured. His reply was to wait for more time - I have pointed this out previously that he wanted to wait for my opinion. Why would he want to wait for my opinion to give his thoughts about the game? I am nothing to him. Or at least, I should be nothing.
This is a big tell for me because I genuinely thought he was lurking out of convenience. Letting GWS do all the distracting, he didn't need to do anything at all. And he didn't.
When finally a wagon was created on him he came out of nowhere and once again contributed a grand total of 0.00 - all he said was we will see how he is town when he flips. This makes him town?
Lovelygiant was doing a fair job at the game before you vs ah happened. Like I said I almost refuse to change my reads on the basis of what happened during the creature wagon and a short time later.
I was always suspicious of pista - in fact when I voted you the first time for misrepping guy, I was actually more suspicious of pista for her vote on someone (can't remember).
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In post 597, Postie wrote:In post 594, chilledtea wrote:As far as lovelygiant being scum is concerned - I haven't seen what makes him scum.
Can you comment on the reasons that were brought up then?
I'll summarise them for you:
In post 497, Postie wrote:I think some of lovelygiant's posts were intentionally trying to escalate the earlier situation, so that's another reason why my vote is where it is right now.
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In post 530, Lowell wrote:His crocodile tears and theatrical accusations of people playing "against wincon" after (what appeared to be) the lynch make no sense unless he knows the person being lynched is town (and that the person DOING the lynching is town, for that matter).
And also his jump onto the Creature wagon looked opportunistic.
I disagree with it. I actually wanted to see him defend himself against these. Sometimes you get a better idea by seeing the defence - the problem is he seems to have gone somewhere.
I didn't see the jump on creature as opportunistic. I don't see anything opportunistic in it.-
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I consider creature as scum. How you look at creature would ultimately create a bias regarding your look at whether what lg did was opportunistic or not.
There was plenty of reason already to vote for creature in my eyes.
If there was no reason or little reason to be on creature wagon and say, a lurking lg comes out of nowhere and gives a weird reason to vote for creature or no reason for that matter - I would consider something like that as opportunistic.-
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Apparently according to google it is taking advantage of a situation for something that could be unethical.-
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In post 629, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 628, chilledtea wrote:lowell - if your town vibe on FA is very strong, wouldn't you think that FA played against her win condition during the creature wagon as well? Without knowing the alignment of FA?
fake hammering is playing against wincon ?
This isn't about fake hammering at all.-
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So you don't remember fighting with antihero and then getting upset? Then claiming macho tracker and fake hammering creature?
Out of these, apart from the fakehammering everything is playing against the wincon I would say. Creating a smoke for whatever reason makes it very easy for scum to hide behind it using many ways.
Also the fakehammering was not known to be fakehammer for some time, so it is possible he might have thought it isn't fake.-
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I think you are taking the creature wagon part a bit too literally.
I am not sure if there was anything during that exact part of fake hammering if there was something you did against your wincon. But from the time the wagon started, and till it ended - that is what I call creature wagon because it didn't take that much time.-
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In post 730, Postie wrote:Okay, I'm liking Creature/Not_Mafia for scum.
VOTE: Not_Mafia
Here's my lame attempt at counterwagoning. Hopefully someone on the pista wagon can join me on this before NM gets in here and hammers to save his own skin.
If this slot flips scum, I can at least throw GWS into my townpile because of 82. I don't think Creature would have been so quick to jump in and defend Gale if they were buddies.
Considering Not_Mafia just replaced in, there is 0 chance of him realistically getting lynched. The creature slot got a boost because of replacement.-
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In post 744, Antihero wrote:pistach is a craps shoot.
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In post 773, BlueTrin wrote:In post 732, chilledtea wrote:In post 730, Postie wrote:Okay, I'm liking Creature/Not_Mafia for scum.
VOTE: Not_Mafia
Here's my lame attempt at counterwagoning. Hopefully someone on the pista wagon can join me on this before NM gets in here and hammers to save his own skin.
If this slot flips scum, I can at least throw GWS into my townpile because of 82. I don't think Creature would have been so quick to jump in and defend Gale if they were buddies.
Considering Not_Mafia just replaced in, there is 0 chance of him realistically getting lynched. The creature slot got a boost because of replacement.
Chilledtea, I don't understand why a replacement is a boost.
Being replaced does not mean the replacement starts with a clean slate.
If you are accused of murder, you cannot say, to defend yourself: "I didn't kill anyone this morning therefore I am innocent ?"
I am not saying that a replacement mean that the slot is scummy but you should not discard previous comments ? Or is there some meta on Mafia Scum that I am not aware about ?
Well, I agree with the logic. Problem is that the lynch just won't happen. Unless it was day 4 or something where you are very sure of the slot, lynching a slot where replacement has occurred is kinda difficult. I mean if creature is town, then what? Creature never said much throughout the day.
I still think that creature slot is scum. But I also think the same for pista and guy. We now have 2 days to complete the lynch. If pista comes here and gives a suitable defence, then we can move to a different slot but that's all we can do.-
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In post 808, Frozen Angel wrote:look again on chilled tea , anti hero and pits when I was gone !
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In post 820, Lowell wrote:VOTE: postie
Can someone lay out the not_mafia case in case they end up dead? I'm always around at endgame so I need to feast on the brains of others until then.
Not_mafia is creature's slot. Hasn't done anything, and creature was suspicious on day 1. At least to me he was.-
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In post 840, Postie wrote:Final thoughts: I think BlueTrin, chilledtea, lovelygiant, and Antihero are town. Dierfire and GWS are null. I think there scum is in Lowell, Guy, and Not_Mafia.
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