Mini 1757 - Game Over

[Zulfy]

Not sure if I should vote for ABR or Chumba for the ever scummy naked votes. *thinking face*

Nice bait

VOTE: Madonna

[Zulfy]

Be more coherent Dwlee

[Zulfy]

Ive never even heard of a gladiator. Confused. Excuse me, Dwlee
Still a newb

[Zulfy]

War egal. Youre still incoherent

[Zulfy]

oh wowzer you fell for the fake gladiator? No way c'mon.

Zulfy do you think that their reaction to the gladiator claim is scummy or their reaction to the post you quoted?

Madonna never reacted to this post, Dwlee

[Zulfy]

The post above "this" post, I mean.

I am also incoherent it seems

[Zulfy]

Yes thanks Cow.

Dwlee has already implied he is not a gladiator

[Zulfy]

Dwlee tell me what your theory on what I was tring to say is

[Zulfy]

I think you are saying I somehow baited madonna.

Nope, you were just trying to bait us out of RVS but no one seems to have reacted to that bait, so you did the gladiator thing.

-facepalm-

so enlighten me. why did you decide to fake claim gladiator and challenge the guy pushing for your lynch?

+1, such an easy question to ask. Low-hanging fruit type scumhunting.

[Zulfy]

My points are scumpoints. You have 1 scumpoint.

[Zulfy]

VOTE: Chumba

COW! Why do you think Dwlee is scum?

[Zulfy]

Dwlee, how does it feel to get quicklynched as scum?

This is what you said. You can't just retcon that

[Zulfy]

Well see, first you say he's scum and then you say you just want the wagon to "straighten him out"

VOTE: Cow +1
I know, I'm terrible. Just the worst.

[Zulfy]

Stupid ones

[Zulfy]

You need to step your game up, brother
VOTE: Dwlee

[Zulfy]

Vote Count #1.6

Dwlee99 (7): TheCow, Madonna, Alchemist21, BlueBloodedToffee, Chumba, Zulfy, Albert B. Rampage

(LYNCH)

Nosferatu (1): Performer
TheCow (1): UpTooLate
Heat (1): Dwlee99
UpTooLate (1): Nosferatu

Not voting (2): Boonskiies, Heat

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Performer, uptoolate, nosferatu, boonskiies, bear

One scum at least in there

[Zulfy]

Youre too géneros, I misspelled heat

[Zulfy]

Thats my recommendation on who to lunch atm, one of those.

[Zulfy]

Maybe idk.

My lista is shorter, therefore bigger chance of catching scum

[Zulfy]

No thats not it.

I highly doubt all scum partners were compliant in the speedlynch. There is most definitely one scum, at the very least, off the wagon.

+1 for faux aggression

[Zulfy]

Further, if there were 4 scum in this game in the first place, then there would be 2 on the wagon and 1 off the wagon, making the people on the wagon an even better lynch pool in the first place. With a goon flip, there cannot be two members of the Mafia.

You are talking out of your beefy ass here
Pedit I havent counted them yet

[Zulfy]

+2 lamist and former post

[Zulfy]

second game with zulfy and still have not seen this notepad where these points are kept. I fully expect to see it this time.

Ye

No thats not it.

I highly doubt all scum partners were compliant in the speedlynch. There is most definitely one scum, at the very least, off the wagon.

well that's a very obvious statement. There's no real reason to iterate this fam

Sure there is, I'll take a 100% chance scum is in that list vs a less-than-100% chance on the other

[Zulfy]

I don't remember any of Chumba's posts.

Really? Cause I was like the only one giving dwlee the 5th degree about his reaction test and asking why he wasn't voting Madonna and zulfy gave me scum points for it. Called dwlee low hanging fruit or something.

vote: zulfy

Wtf is this

[Zulfy]

1. Performer's output has been bad. The RVS defense for someone who came up scum and the attempt to get momentum back on Nosferatu was poor. It reads as an attempt to save a scummate.

+1 you are right

[Zulfy]

He was calling me scummy for

Ima scumping everyone calm down

[Zulfy]

I have a feeling Heat and Zulfy are Town.

I have a feeling this is something scum would say +1

[Zulfy]

gotta love that your first real stance on anything in the game was that I didn't have a stance on anything in the game.

Correct another for alchemist

[Zulfy]

I never said I was unwilling to look off the wagon, I was pointing out that he didn't want us to look on it.

You are right.

It is possible scum is not at all on the dwlee wagon. Impossible that they are all off it

[Zulfy]

Also madonna seems like buddying +1

[Zulfy]

I havent counted yet

[Zulfy]

I will agree that his adherence to almost mindlessly spinning around is not productive.

Whats this about

[Zulfy]

Nos, you remember when I said a highly similar thought process as Zulfy, when I was VT in our game - the one where you were were night killed on n1, in chamber's game? You see how Zulfy is coming from a town mindset then?

You said that?
Madonna what happened to the buddying?

[Zulfy]

Seriously though, please git gud.

He was kidding

[Zulfy]

Zulfy good to see you 're here on Sunday ! Hehe.

Ha u know, no job atm, friends left town

Is your cow read still the same? As I said he was kidding

[Zulfy]

But...you quoted 161, and I was speaking of 160 !

Right, 161 lets us know he was joking about 160

[Zulfy]

Zulfy, 251: I think you are not doing a good job. Please aggregate your scumpoints and see how everyone adds up; that should help you realize how spread out you are. If you are town, you are a great mislynch. If you are scum, you need to move your read to more town than null.

Zulfy, 262: You will need to explain the buddying theory you got going on there...buddy.

Suspicion of others does not make me scummy. (???)
You seem to be defending me quite strongly

[Zulfy]

Asking you questions isn't going to help me sort you. Any question I ask will be a leading one.

What will help you sort him?

[Zulfy]

You interpret his actions as town but in reality his day 1 was very bad. He sings me for scum hunting scum, he dings cow for something he didn't understand, he didn't ding dwlee really, he votes him for playing poorly. None of those are good reasons to vote, none of it makes him look town

Grasping for straws here +1.
My pings can't be helped. Its just the way it is. When we have an RVS lynch there's not a lot of concrete reads you can have on anybody.

See for me, I think ABR's hammer could come from scum going for some towncred, but thats, like everything else from day 1, not very concrete.

Other reads, please.

[Zulfy]

Plus, as town I'm engaged.
As scum, I'm super mysterious and I'll mess around, even in twilight.

+1 dont dictate your meta.
I mean town does it too but ugh

[Zulfy]

I know.

Who would you like to quicklynch?

[Zulfy]

Wont those questions also be leading?

[Zulfy]

Dodge street

[Zulfy]

VOTE: UpTooLate

I was hoping to see Zulfy do this.

?

Will catch up tamara

[Zulfy]

So so sorry this is not at all professional.

I'll be back tomorrow promise promise

[Zulfy]

VOTE: Nosferatu

[Zulfy]

I sure can

[Zulfy]

What a weird ass night kill

[Zulfy]

What's the reference Boon?

[Zulfy]

That's not really true at all. There wasn't really a driver behind the dwlee lynch, it was consensus that he's a shit mafia player.

[Zulfy]

Don't worry dwlee you'll get better.

Anyway Madonna I don't get why you would say that. Did nothing of note happen day 2 for scum to pick a better NK?

[Zulfy]

@Zulf taking a look at the most recent vote count, what're your thoughts on on the lead wagon and other players (see below)?

Enlighten me why you have had no vote for the longest time on d2.

Cuz I was busy/discouraged. There was no one to talk to.

[Zulfy]

Based on my meta with Boon, his ISO, his vote placement, his reasoning for his vote on Alb - I'm not liking Boon either.

Elaborate on this pls

[Zulfy]

Performer, your post fills me with paranoia about you, but your points are worth exploring.

[Zulfy]

Also why do you think I'm town?

[Zulfy]

Madonna you made Cow out to be some sort of town leader for voting dwlee on a 7 page day 1.

[Zulfy]

You keep doing that.

I said scum was being weird by killing cow, your reaction was

Not weird; he astutely found Dwlee99 and the rest of us came along for the ride.

So for me, it's still weird because I don't know if the cow was a town leader or some shit for day 2. So I ask you, and you say:

You tell me, because clearly I noted TheCow was just good in general.

"Good in general" and your justification for that was that he was somehow responsible for dwlee's death day 1. Not really, we all were. You're trying to flip the subject here but the point is that the cow didn't do much day 1 to justify killing him night 2.

I don't give a shit about his actions day 2, the point is that you point to his actions day 1 for scum's actions night 2. That's just stupid.

[Zulfy]

Welcome Droog please clean up your slot

[Zulfy]

Heat autocorrected to bear

[Zulfy]

I stand by my theory

[Zulfy]

Yes that is called scumhunting

Pedit: I dont disagree that it looks shady. Youre not the first to say that

[Zulfy]

Well see, first you say he's scum and then you say you just want the wagon to "straighten him out"

VOTE: Cow +1
I know, I'm terrible. Just the worst.

!

You disagree??? That was bad play on his part

[Zulfy]

I hate catch ups

[Zulfy]

Lets lynch ABR then

[Zulfy]

Droog what's with the prose

[Zulfy]

VOTE: abr

all you can do is invent explanations now for things you never explaiend at the time

yet you cant admit that my arguments have any validity, while you acknowledge that they have validity by arguing at all

What's up with your format, droog

[Zulfy]

ABR is obvious town and I had his slot pegged as town when I originally read the game after seeing Dweelee get lolhammered within pages.

I concur

[Zulfy]

I think RC wanted a challenge. I think he scumread ABR and is confident he can turn his slot around.

[Zulfy]

BnL, am I allowed to quote/provide evidence of

1) PMs I sent you while Day 1 was in twilight and I was not officially in the game.
2) PMs sent to other mods on replace ins to other games that have since finished.
3) Discussion with other players in site chat about replacing into their games.

Ha! You know the answers gonna be no.

Love your bluffs

[Zulfy]

Okay as soon as droog pulls his out of mine

[Zulfy]

I need someone's help.

Who's the player with the chicago bulls avatar?

[Zulfy]

Oh rob rob rob. Hi there

[Zulfy]

Hello

[Zulfy]

Yooo, chicago bulls profile pic, who is it?

[Zulfy]

Well once I find him I can show how much of a hypocrite RC is

[Zulfy]

i dont think a player subbing out
means their replacement is entitled to a few days
where no one pushes anything on them

This isn't about entitlement or not entitlement.
This is about me being town and you not giving me the space to show it.

It was this except you were droog, and much more aggresive.

And the bull was you here, and scum.

[Zulfy]

You know what, maybe it was a texans logo

[Zulfy]

i acept that 2 scum off makes sense
2 scum on is implausible

Agreed. Two scum on seems far fetched.

Hey so my thing with the wagons dont seem al stupid now huh

[Zulfy]

And he never said they did, droog.

[Zulfy]

It doesnt imply
A correlation
I do things like that
All the time

[Zulfy]

? Thats all you were after? Lol

Dont think so, little bit more than token scumhunting please

[Zulfy]

And now youre deflecting

[Zulfy]

youre the one making it a big deal

That's deflecting, is all

[Zulfy]

You are then implying that its irrelevant. Its not.

[Zulfy]

The hunting you were doin on me? Go back to that rigor

[Zulfy]

We're talking in circles here. alchemist is right.

[Zulfy]

VOTE: UpTooLate

That's L-1, gimme that claim, U

[Zulfy]

rc's case is full of weak spots
that i will pick at later

Im guessing conveniently after the hammer, yea?

[Zulfy]

but how convenient is it
that you go in thinking 'its utl and droog'
and after your catchup you come
to exactly the same opinino

Droog are you under some sort of hex? Are you a character in a children's novel?
This is a good point tho and your reaction to RC's reaction is shifty ( a smiley )

[Zulfy]

+1 hahahaha

[Zulfy]

Kill pls

[Zulfy]

VOTE: RapidCanyon

Good morning everyone

[Zulfy]

That's VOTE: RC

[Zulfy]

The only weapon is your cutting words after your partner replaces out.

Anyway you are scum/insane. We need you gone.

[Zulfy]

It is droog.
Droog has
arrived.
It is
droog.

[Zulfy]

I feel an appeals process coming on, in the Emotions Court of Appeals, second circuit.

I'm unwavering.

[Zulfy]

Yea ok anyway

Who did scum attempt to nk? Was it mod?

[Zulfy]

Robster join the wagon

[Zulfy]

Scum has a point

[Zulfy]

Golden please crawl out of cowbell's ass and vote him

Pedit: Of course

[Zulfy]

Looks like we're talking this all the way to the supreme court fellas

[Zulfy]

YO RC

Why would you jail Madonna RC?

[Zulfy]

RC I need you to stop faux-flailing and answer the question

[Zulfy]

Toffee said my dwlee interaction was scummy af

[Zulfy]

And that hes been here for there years and I didnt sound like a newbie.

[Zulfy]

There was no one to talk to.

[Zulfy]

Auto?

[Zulfy]

there

Three

[Zulfy]

Ha. No, statusquo is odious

[Zulfy]

I don't think we're massclaiming, we just had two PRs out in the open and a lone mason isn't much of a loss. Just minimizing the field.

[Zulfy]

What's your opinion on a massclaim, alchemist?

[Zulfy]

I'd like to assign the order.

Hell no we popcorn

Madonna!

[Zulfy]

Boon is mos def motion detector.
Carpetbag I'm not sure but I'll play along with him for now.

I don't really have an opinion of you wanting to claim or not, Madonna.
What does every one else think?

Pedit: Yea

[Zulfy]

zuify is the one to lead a claim

That's an l as in litigation, droog. And if so my request stands. Popcorning to Madonna

[Zulfy]

Madonna:

empty, fix this

[Zulfy]

That's everyone!

[Zulfy]

Agree on alchemist being dodgy. Lets get madonna today tho

VOTE: Madonna

[Zulfy]

Eyy if alch wants to bus his buddy let him.
You jailed Madonna and nobody died, pretty straightforward.

[Zulfy]

You know what fine
VOTE: alchemist
Robster pile on

[Zulfy]

Now you don't want an alchemist lynch, then?

[Zulfy]

Ok, then make your points and see how people react. You're not getting cold feet here are you?

[Zulfy]

what about madonna bitten

[Zulfy]

You've yet to reply to the thug, RC

Why would scum boon
Validate your claim

[Zulfy]

You've yet to reply to the thug, RC

Why would scum boon
Validate your claim

I hadn't claimed >.>

droog what do you have to say for yourself

[Zulfy]

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

[Zulfy]

Like Droog is bad as town but it's just bad play. He tries and fails. I can accept that. Boonskiies chooses to play like an idiot and I've been fucked over one too many times by Town!Boons to care if he is. He dies. And I jailed Madonna cuz I fucking felt like it.

Where have you been fucked by Boon?

[Zulfy]

if anyone has any other explanations
for why there wasnt a nightkill
you should come forward now

lol.

sketch.

If this is sketchy why haven't you pursued this?
Btw I voted you first and am only ISOing you now.

[Zulfy]

That's awful from Bitten btw.

I have been confirmed by Boon. My save is uncced.

Either we are both scum or I am town. If we are both scum, you would vote him first.

That's either horrible logic or thinly veiled scum intent. I'm leaning towards the latter.

Not horrible logic at all. Your excuse is poop. Madonna has posted and you haven't followed up on that either.
As far as how obvious it seems that's wine

[Zulfy]

By "as far as how obvious it seems" I mean "How obviously bad it looks for you to jail madonna, there being no night kill, and then you not going after madonna"

[Zulfy]

Thought she could be scum and was a good contender to make the NK and also because if she was town and perf was scum she might eat a NK

Hang on, so you thought Madonna was scum and might make the NK, jailed (supposedly) Madonna, the NK didn't go through, and you're not voting Madonna?

I'm just catching up on everything that's happened now, but this doesn't seem to add up to me. It sort of reminds me of yesterday when you thought droog scum slipped by leaving UTL off of his reads list, and then voted UTL instead of droog. And look how that turned out.

I've said it before and maintained that boonskies is my major scum read, but the wagon on him makes me uncomfortable based on you starting it.

I'm leaning more towards the wagon on you at this point, though I want to go back and read over some of Madonna's posts on the off chance that you really did jail them and they were scum and that's why the NK didn't go through.

quote for reference
That would make me pretty fucking obvious.

I'd rather wait until she makes a post and then scumread her for it

[Zulfy]

To be perfectly clear on things:

RC Jailed Madonna
Boon Detected RC moving
No night kill

Correct?

That either means Madonna=scum or scum targeted Madonna. We know this, yea?

[Zulfy]

Then there's the UpTooLate wagon! RC's salty that he didn't back out of the mislynch.

Is that saltiness coming from town or scum?

The pressure he's received from it has been shrugged off. Hmmmmmm

[Zulfy]

VOTE: Golden Robster
You sneaky little member of the reaper sect

[Zulfy]

Because scum could have tried and night killed them.
ISO Madonna and get back to me, Song Yue

[Zulfy]

The vote just got 10 feet taller.
Explain.

[Zulfy]

The fact of the matter is, if this was a mislynch scum would be piling on this wagon like fucking candy to a baby

...Isn't that what you're doing?
Where else have you played mafia? Is scum targeting Madonna really that unbelievable?

[Zulfy]

Answer the other two questions also

[Zulfy]

Thought she could be scum and was a good contender to make the NK and also because if she was town and perf was scum she might eat a NK

Perfslot is Golden Robster

RC I will follow you

[Zulfy]

surely me being reluctant to vote a mislynch would make more sense if I was scum

Uhhh you're sounding just like RC. Hey what did that scum thread say about me btw?
Did he call me a dilettante?

[Zulfy]

VOTE: No Lynch

RC Jail madonna again

[Zulfy]

Golden your situation was different than Madonna's. In Game Shop our slot was all scummed up by the time you got jailed. Madonna is a different story.

[Zulfy]

There's also a motion detector

[Zulfy]

Ha no. No traitor.

[Zulfy]

That doesn't really matter anymore. You willing to go along with this no lynch tho?

[Zulfy]

But that would be the very best thing we can do right now

Then you jail Madonna, then boon detects somebody, then next morning you're probably dead.

What is your problem with this plan?

[Zulfy]

I am not willing to vote Madonna.

But the rest of you go ahead

[Zulfy]

MOD FIX THAT SPOILER PLS

[Zulfy]

{RC, Zulfy, Boonskiies}

Ya just can't help yourself can ya?

Why is alchemist more townie than bitten?

[Zulfy]

He said his playstyle never changes. He pushes people a lot and he pushes hard.

[Zulfy]

Okay also that UTL could also be scum, that he tried to start a counter on TheCow. He wasnt a great fan of ABR's hammer, and would have liked it more if Dwlee flipped town. If Dwlee was bussed, it's ABR or you.

[Zulfy]

if my reads going into night were correct.

it can't be

[Zulfy]

if my reads going into night were correct.

it can't be

Nvm it can

[Zulfy]

I like this vote , it looks Townie to me.

VOTE: Golden Robster

[Zulfy]

I don't understand why Madonna isn't pushing Robster harder

[Zulfy]

Show me

[Zulfy]

Sorry you replaced into a scum slot twice

[Zulfy]

Dwlee was an aberration. Not much info there

[Zulfy]

VOTE: Madonna

[Zulfy]

RC burns his bridges with a blow torch

[Zulfy]

is objectively bad play

oh no

[Zulfy]

UNVOTE: Madonna

[Zulfy]

When she flips townie we lynch RC tomorrow

[Zulfy]

RC is not a lynch candidate period.

[Zulfy]

RC is not a lynch candidate today. When Madonna flips townie today, we lynch RC tomorrow.
VOTE: Madonna

[Zulfy]

If anyone has a different reason for stopping the NK, say so NOW. Or else RC is not a lynch candidate.

What possible reason could there be for you to contemplate RC getting lynched today, boon?

Pedit: Entirely

[Zulfy]

There's no chance you get lynched. Not today anyway. Are you talking about tomorrow?

[Zulfy]

If I'm getting lynched if we lynch wrong I pick the lynch.

why would we be lynching wrong
madonna was roleblocked on a nk

I was thinking that RC could be framing Madonna to get her out of the picture but now that I think about it some more it seems like something RC would never do. Whatever. Either way Madonna is today's lynch.

[Zulfy]

There's nothing else to say, RC. I'm not understanding your insistence on slowing down the day.

[Zulfy]

If you wanted people to give their thoughts you shouldn't have told us your roleblock.

[Zulfy]

Boon didn't force you to out yourself RC.

[Zulfy]

Tell us your target, that'd be nice

[Zulfy]

pick your target boy

[Zulfy]

Boon could also be killed tomorrow

[Zulfy]

Oh ok. Just suck away all the oxygen out of this game then, no worries

[Zulfy]

Bitten pls bus your partner already

[Zulfy]

what

[Zulfy]

No cuz see he wants us to talk more see. What's the weather like in albion rob?

[Zulfy]

Boon that's a very bad choice. I'm confirmed mason.

[Zulfy]

RCs not the type to follow through on his word. Even if ends up telling us who hes gonna target there's no guarantee he'll actually target that person.

[Zulfy]

With two scum left

The plan assumes that you will flip scum --> one scum left

[Zulfy]

Admit we are losing steam.
Admit we'd best get the lynch already.

You can hem around at night.

[Zulfy]

I'll hold your reads in the highest regard. I'll caress them with the most delicate of touches, I'll nurture their growth and admire their beauty.

When will you be ready? What are you still in need of?

[Zulfy]

The fourth?

[Zulfy]

You are voting for your townread and you know you are voting for your townread.

[Zulfy]

Im down VOTE: Bitten

Tag fixed. ~Mod

[Zulfy]

Im down VOTE: Bitten

[Zulfy]

Droog put that sucker at L-1

[Zulfy]

5 to lynch, Alchemist RC and I are voting.
Two more.
You be the fourth

[Zulfy]

Woo

[Zulfy]

Lol boon lol

[Zulfy]

Lol

[Zulfy]

Why didnt the other scum go for the kill?

Madonna might be getting framed.

[Zulfy]

VOTE: Madonna

[Zulfy]

I dont wanna.

[Zulfy]

RCs motivation for not lynching Madonna is not very respectful.

[Zulfy]

Whatever!

Just decide, all

[Zulfy]

Boon stop holy poop

[Zulfy]

Lol

[Zulfy]

VOTE: Robster

[Zulfy]

HAHA

Lol