In one post you managed to thrice refer to your town alliance. Seems to me like you're trying a bit too hard.kravhen wrote:I understand why one would want to vote me, my predecessor was scummy and hell, even I as Old Kravhen went after her aggressively at some point.
What I'm wondering personally about your vote is, are you voting me genuinely because there is a case strong enough against me to vote me (which means you think I am the scummiest player), or are you voting because, I admit it, I'm an easy target for a mislynch?
I'll keep my eyes open for that. I hadn't seen players' actions this way before. It's worth looking into, if I was scum I would've considered doing the same thing I believe.
Meanwhile, Erotomachia is still silent... And pickemgenius' play is still annoying. His play remind me of JDodge's.... Annoying people, geez, they deserve to be lynch on sight.
=P
i was quite taken aback with how defensive Eroto for kravhen.Erotomachia wrote:You're considering kravhen? Why? On Day 1 everyone was pretty much agreed that deadscilent was the VI, and I don't see what kravhen has done today to base a vote off of.
I mayself am not considering Kravhen/DS at this time. But I wouldn't be surprised to see it get some momentum. Pickemgenius seems to have no attention span, so would be a good likely candidate to pile on eventually..as an example.[/quote]Agreed with Nabakov.ChronX wrote:You're considering kravhen? Why? On Day 1 everyone was pretty much agreed that deadscilent was the VI, and I don't see what kravhen has done today to base a vote off of.
You were musing aloud that such a vote would probably attract other votes, which is pretty much what Nabakov accused you of doing. Speculating the wagon and not the player.ChronX wrote:You're kind of twisting the context of my original post on its ear. Theo had asked for a vote count, I gave one, he posted that he was pretty sure he was voting Kravhen, whichImisunderstood at the time to mean he was thinking of voting for him (I had missed his post where he already had). I was simply musing aloud that such a vote would probably attract other votes, and thus was interesting. Why interesting? It could be scum, it could be scum bait. Interesting.
Since the vote was ALREADY cast and hasn't attracted a following, I was wrong. My bad.
I stand on my vote of Albert. Nothing scummy about voting to -3 the guy who lynched the doc.
I've seen your erratic play, and several times we've ended up lynching town because of it. I guess you get lucky once in a while and we hit scum.Albert B. Rampage wrote:d3sisted, you've seen me derail bandwagons numerous times and getting scum lynched an hour before deadline. This time I was wrong; does this make you lose all faith in me ?
Glad to see I wasn't the only one.NabakovNabakov wrote:Obviously crap.kravhen wrote:Considering myself lucky to have lived until now ( as deadscilent's replacer ), it's time for me toClaim: Watcher.
Last night I followed NabNab. He paid Sir Tornado a little visit. 'Nuff said.
Before me, deadscilent followed Albert but didn't see him visit anyone.
Obviously, I willVote: NabNaband encourage everyone to do the same. I've never been a watcher before and I would've claimed yesterday if it could've saved my skin at the brink of a lynch on me, but thankfully I live for one more day just like I had hoped because I wanted to have a target of my own after deadscilent's N1 action. I targeted NabNab because I've always had mixed feelings about him and I was interested in what he could show me.
I'm pleased, very pleased.
Vote: Kravhen
Think about what's happening here. It's very likely that we're in LYLO. Watcher is something that's unlikely to be counter-claimed. The scum need one more townie lynch. They were guaranteed support from Albert, so that just means convincing one other townie before they pile aboard. I still think Albert is (severly misguided) town, but Kravhen is obvscum.
I realize that this is a word v. word situation. Here's his:Oh wait, I thought it was:Kravhen wrote: NabNab did something quite different. He elaborates on his position.
IMO, that second part of your post stinks, alot. What I mean is, I think thats the part that gives you away. Just like BlueZebra, I'm convinced.
Unvote Vote: ChronX
Way too easy.*shrug*Kravhen wrote: I targeted NabNab because I've always had mixed feelings about him and I was interested in what he could show me.
I expect town would have to be pretty stupid to fall for that one...kravhen wrote:Then there's the thing when you leave for 3 days, ask us not to lynch. Is that an attempt at hoping when you're back, everyone will have forgotten my claim and moved on to continue mislynching?
Sorry, guys. But look on the bright side, my sanity is guaranteed. kravhen wrote:Considering myself lucky to have lived until now ( as deadscilent's replacer ), it's time for me toClaim: Watcher.
Last night I followed NabNab. He paid Sir Tornado a little visit. 'Nuff said.
Before me, deadscilent followed Albert but didn't see him visit anyone.
Obviously, I willVote: NabNaband encourage everyone to do the same. I've never been a watcher before and I would've claimed yesterday if it could've saved my skin at the brink of a lynch on me, but thankfully I live for one more day just like I had hoped because I wanted to have a target of my own after deadscilent's N1 action. I targeted NabNab because I've always had mixed feelings about him and I was interested in what he could show me.
I'm pleased, very pleased.
Didn't anyone else find it kinda funny how kravhen counterclaimed his predecessor? No? Maybe it's just me then.deadscilent wrote:Im a norm Townie I dont really care if Im killed. Ill just be laughing when you finally do kill me and realize Im telling the truth.
XD
I would if you weren't second on my list.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Thank you. THANK YOU. Guys unvote please and let's sort this out when we're not under imminent pressure of a quicklynch by the three scum.d3sisted wrote:Albert may be onto something with GF...
Don't know if that constitutes a breadcrumb. If it does, GF theory doesn't look so far-fetched all of a sudden.deadscilent wrote:Firstly, Thank you Al. Why people keep messing up my gender I will never know.
Anyway onto the game, I haven't been posting much because it has been my strategy.Watchingother bicker shows a lot about them.
I agree with Al that Krav is pro-town Even with his accusations.
Erotomachia I also believe is pro-town because of his positive logic. He isnt just throwing things out there, he actually believes in the town and wants to be sure that he doesnt kill any townies off.
Also Pick made a lot of sense, I agree with his logic, and not just because he was defending me.
I suspect Crash Text because what Pat says made sense to me:
Also I'm a tad bit suspicious of Adel because shes hasnt been saying much. But that could just be strategic and I cant get her for that, so my suspicion for her is off.Patrick wrote: One thing I noticed was that CrashTextDummie didn't talk about kravhen or anyone around that issue at all when he was here. He just attacked Blue Zebra and dingled around with me a bit. It's unlike him to not comment on what was arguably the biggest issue in the thread. That's partly why I'm trying to get something out of Haut Boy on that.
As for Zebra, I dont suspect him either.
As much as I think krav is pro-town, theres a tad bit that makes me suspicious of him, but like Adel, not enough to say he is mafia.
Unvote
Vote: Crashtext
Good?
So first you claim watcher in Ly-Lo and call a guilty on a vanilla town. When the cop comes out to tell you he is town-aligned, you keep pushing for his lynch knowing that we automatically lose if we do? Moreover, you accuse the cop for being scum with the target for which you have no credible evidence?kravhen wrote:Well that's one person who I see will not give thought to my word. I guess I'm not that surprised.
Anyone else want to follow desisted and vote me?
Any scum wanna use the opportunity to appear super pro-town by mocking my post and discarding it completely ( conveniently ) and vote me?
kravhen wrote:Lies. You're NOT cop, and NabNab is NOT innocent. You're scum #2. Well this is going pretty well so far, I'm satisfied. Is there a third scum around with something to say? geez
kravhen wrote:I continue standing by my claim and that NabNab is scum while desisted is probably his scummate. If we do lynch NabNab today, he'll turn up scum, then I politely ask the REAL COP to invistigate me tonight (I'm probably a prime investigation subject anyway) to clear me and then lynch desisted tomorrow, successfully lynching 2 scum in the next 2 days. I don't like power-role guiding, but this is one of the outcomes I can see happening.
kravhen wrote:I'm still here..
I'm keeping my vote on NabNab and I'm wondering how I should proceed from this point... I don't wanna lose.. I hate losing.
Come on, people, think about this. Is this how akravhen wrote:Well that's one person who I see will not give thought to my word. I guess I'm not that surprised.
Anyone else want to follow desisted and vote me?
Any scum wanna use the opportunity to appear super pro-town by mocking my post and discarding it completely ( conveniently ) and vote me?
He knows his gambit isn't going through, so he tries to throw suspicion on the lurkers, looking for a mislynch there.kravhen wrote:What if we were all town bickering with each other while the scumz sit back, wait and throw the generic and usual comment about stuff just so that they don't get labeled lurker and get prodded. Which makes me think. What are y'all's opinions on this? And by y'all I mean whoever's name isn't albert, kravhen, desisted and nabakov. O snap?
What a crock of sh*t. You accuse him of having visited the deadman last night, and you vote for him. When he claims vanilla, you continue to vote for him. Then the cop comes out to back him up, and you still want him dead?kravhen wrote:I like how you say I had a guilty on someone when really all I said was that I saw him visit patrick and that IMPLIED high chances of scuminess, therefore the vote. Then someone made sure we considered GF.
Kravhen you gonna address this issue or just ignore itd3sisted wrote:Think about it this way: You were a mason trying to get rid of a suspected scum (Nabakov). The cop claims, and not only that, he's got an innocent on Nabakov. Do you:
a) continue to accuse Nabakov, pushing for his lynch
b) accuse the claimed cop of being nabakov's scum partner
c) discredit the cop's investigation
Observe:kravhen wrote:Lies. You're NOT cop, and NabNab is NOT innocent. You're scum #2. Well this is going pretty well so far, I'm satisfied. Is there a third scum around with something to say? geezkravhen wrote:I continue standing by my claim and that NabNab is scum while desisted is probably his scummate. If we do lynch NabNab today, he'll turn up scum, then I politely ask the REAL COP to invistigate me tonight (I'm probably a prime investigation subject anyway) to clear me and then lynch desisted tomorrow, successfully lynching 2 scum in the next 2 days. I don't like power-role guiding, but this is one of the outcomes I can see happening.kravhen wrote:I'm still here..
I'm keeping my vote on NabNab and I'm wondering how I should proceed from this point... I don't wanna lose.. I hate losing.Come on, people, think about this. Is this how akravhen wrote:Well that's one person who I see will not give thought to my word. I guess I'm not that surprised.
Anyone else want to follow desisted and vote me?
Any scum wanna use the opportunity to appear super pro-town by mocking my post and discarding it completely ( conveniently ) and vote me?masonwould act?
I might've bought their most recent explanation if there weren't so many chinks in the puzzle. Unfortunately, actions speak louder than words.
More points of interest:He knows his gambit isn't going through, so he tries to throw suspicion on the lurkers, looking for a mislynch there.kravhen wrote:What if we were all town bickering with each other while the scumz sit back, wait and throw the generic and usual comment about stuff just so that they don't get labeled lurker and get prodded. Which makes me think. What are y'all's opinions on this? And by y'all I mean whoever's name isn't albert, kravhen, desisted and nabakov. O snap?
What a crock of sh*t. You accuse him of having visited the deadman last night, and you vote for him. When he claims vanilla, you continue to vote for him. Then the cop comes out to back him up, and you still want him dead?kravhen wrote:I like how you say I had a guilty on someone when really all I said was that I saw him visit patrick and that IMPLIED high chances of scuminess, therefore the vote. Then someone made sure we considered GF.
Moreover, if you're so convinced me and nabakov are the scum team, why would you stop going at us all of a sudden?
Nabakov, I see where you're coming from with the "too scummy to be scum" theories, especially on why Albert would proceed to back up the mason claim. Let me just say this: If this were anyone other than Albert, I would've gone down the same path of thought as you have. They're taking a huge gamble here, trying to bank off the implausibility of the situation at hand.
@D3isted: You're exactly right. If Kravhen and Albert are scum, Kravhen put Albert in a very uncomfortable position. If Albert confirms the claim, it links the two. If Albert denies the claim, Kravhen is guaranteed lynched and Albert will get put under some heavy suspicion. (BTW, I would say that denying would actually be the best choice for Albert-scum. A situation where Kravhen fingers a total townie as his masonbuddy as he goes down would probably be plausible enough to keep the D4 lynch off)
Claiming mason would mean he has someone (Albert) to vouch for and confirm his claim.But here's the big question, Why the hell would Kravhen put Albert in that spot?
He made that shit up. There was no deliberate planning of the mason claim. Post 103 where he unclaims and claims mason was all made up. The "You're being stupid, let go" is Albert-scum telling him to unclaim watcher.Actually, why would Albert tell Kravhen to put him on the spot? Remember that Albert was the one who told Kravhen to claim ("You're being stupid. Let go").
Pay attention to the bolded segment.kravhen wrote:I can only assume you mean what I think. So be it.
UNCLAIM: Watcher
CLAIM: MASON
Sorry I lied. I know I owe you all an explanation, so I'll just drop the facts right here for you all. Me and Albert are masons. Many things can help you believe in this, like the fact that me and Albert have NEVER confronted each other. That's what I noticed although at some point I feared we might've been labeled scum because we wouldnt attack each other. It also explains that Deadscilent followed Albert everywhere.Albert also told to keep her mason role secret no matter what until the right time came, that's why she panicked but still claimed vanilla townie.She also didn't want to dissapoint Albert's plans by dying, I guess. He told me his convictions that we should go after NabNab and his plan was for me to claim watcher and say I saw Nab visit Patrick. At first I didn't know what a watcher was, and wondered why I didn't just claim cop. I guess cop is a role that is way too common and if I claimed it the real cop would come after us. That's what I figured. The post I quoted from Albert was my cue to drop the game when it would stop going anywhere and attracting the info we hoped to get. So it seems that according to Albert, the reaction to my watcher claim on Nabakov has taught him what he wanted to know. Or maybe I was just starting to sound redundant and before I couldnt handle my lie anymore, the cue was given.
And that's the show, folks... I had heard Albert rolled crazy. Verdict: He does.
Deadscilent's claim came on post 352, ondeadscilent, 352 wrote:Im a norm Townie I dont really care if Im killed. Ill just be laughing when you finally do kill me and realize Im telling the truth.
XD