Regardless of the fact that you moved your vote to Sephiroth, ( who is cooler than he is evil ) I still need todestructor wrote:Vote: Atticus
Because Gaius Balter is an annoying weasel.
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We shouldn't be speculating roles this early in the game.kabenon007 wrote:I don't know if this type of character cxan exist in a mini normal, but I have seen a character called the Jester or something like it, I think. And his win condition is to have the town lynch him. I doubt dusterhan is a jester, that doesn't seem to be likely in a mini normal. But his playing has been odd. None of his posts have been clear in any way, almost every one has some sort of enigma in it. He plays almost like he's trying to get us to believe he is scum or something, which, even if he is town, is extremely unhelpful to the town as a whole."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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On Random Votes:
The point of random votes is to gain early vibes and suspicions of people. To give a truly random vote, say from random.org, you can get no reaction from the votee, and thus, no vibe or suspicion. To give a reason for a random vote is fueling this activity, increasing its productivity. To truly suspect someone for a random vote, random FoS, or random vote reason, is degrading to the information process. Toreactto the such things, however, helps the town."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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Dusterhan: I'm in another game with him right now, where his opening post was unhelpful and caused general confusion. I'm ignoring him.
TinVision: See my rather previous post on Random votes. I don't mind anything he did, I see it as having been in the random stage."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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As newbs, no. Being suspicious of someone for contradicting themselves is something anyone would do. In the early stages of the game though, I barely pay attention. The actions of most people in those first few pages are frivolous and carefree.SilverPhoenix wrote:...
@Atticus: So do you think that my and destructor's actions are unwarranted?"There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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Knuck, I don't suggest that you exclude all information from day one and the random stage.Iquite simply do not give as much thought to scum tells in that period of the game. And I thought some people were overreacting to TinVision. And I thought I'd tell them to chill.
Hey, Nirp, are you scum, or just opportunistic?"There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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Duster seems to think that game days should take no longer than 8 pages. I'd love to have him replaced, but I'm really not caring about him right now.
Not liking kabenon's vote on duster. But then, if I were dependent on duster posting, I might have voted him too."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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Me? Suspicious of kabenon. The vote on duster strikes me as something that scum would do when they're impatient with a townie. They would love for a town to bury themselves by saying something stupid. If duster never posts, things aren't going well, a new target is needed."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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Dusterhan: I want you to start posting.
Who are you suspicious of?
What posts strike you as odd?
Why are you being anidiotlurker?
Is there some real life complication that you have that stops you from having an opinion?
Why did joost hop on an N-L vote? The reasoning Aimee gave for voting the latter was weak, in my opinion, simply that he was barely posting any content. However, that joost went to it, and backed off right after N-L asked for a replacement is odd, to me."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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Dusterhan is such an interesting character. Near silent. Not useful. Defensive. Seems to think that even when the conversation is about him, he should pay as little attention as possible.
Aimee. You say that it's because he wasn't scum-hunting. Would you say that Nekka was posting much content?"There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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These are some questions I posted earlier for you, Dusterhan, feel free to answer.Atticus wrote:...
Who are you suspicious of?
What posts strike you as odd?
Why are you being anidiotlurker?
Is there some real life complication that you have that stops you from having an opinion?
..."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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MOD:Getting a vote count eventually would be hella nice.
I have no idea who I'm voting, but I know who I will vote.Unvote, Vote: Knuck.Why? Well, with only 8 posts in the game (less than one per page) he his hard to get a solid read on, but I have found something I'm curious about.
Within 3 posts he changes his position on duster completely.
Post 162: Calls kabenon scum for trying to pick off a helpless townie, duster.
(large amount of space here, but mostly it is just the town coming to the conclusion that duster willnothelp the town)
Post 215: Unvotes kabenon, is not sure whether to lynch duster or not.
Post 222: Votes dusterhan, because he says it will garner information. (I don't believe this is true because there is relatively no one that can be connected to duster)
As I see it, these small moves could possibly indicate a Knuck-duster scum relationship. It's not much, but I'm curious as to what you have to say, Knuck."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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Hrm! I was curious as to whether this game would live or not, but we've got a lively group.
After voting dusterhan, Nekka says this, which is an interesting thing to accuse someone for, in his position.N-L wrote:There's no reason to why he's purposely lurking and not actually getting involved
Getting involved is how we catch scum. Not just sitting back, watching the game from a distance, hoping you find something!!!"There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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But when Sephiroth said there were only two questions, why would I have contradicted it? Should I not have wanted to leave it at that and offer my "scumbuddy" the best chance of catching my "secret meaning?" You'll notice in the original post that there was no separation. I'm assuming that he has a tiny brain and needs some sort of division between his thinking.vampyrusddg wrote:...
This strikes me as very leading and it wasn't till Sepiroth's quote and mistake that there were only 2 questions that it really hit me, the bolded questions stand out much more than the underlined ones in the quote of his own satement, and both of them offer Dusterhan a way out:
the first says start posting some content which looks like your town.
the second says bow out so someone else can take your place
Both of which lead me to believe this is a coded message between scum buddies saying stop letting the side down, either shape up or bow out
FOS: Atticus, dusterhan
Habby birthday."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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Well you see, now you'll never know if I'll hop on it.Aimee wrote:...
Atticus wrote:The case destructor makes on TV is interesting, but I don't think it's anything I'd be voting on anytime soon.Fos: Atticus
Translation: "I shall sit here for a while, and when the bandwagon grows I can hop on."
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Planning to check out kabenon or TV after I do a couple of real life things."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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'Tis what I'm trying to do...Aimee wrote:...
unvote, vote: Atticus
Try again?
1. Not interesting so much as... not boring, because it got a response.destructor wrote:1. Why my case on TinVision is interesting, and
2. Why you won't vote for him?
2. Because I don't think he's scummy. Ech, not yet at least.
While dusterhan's post implies that he would leave it up to the others to find mafia, mine says, "Hey, I'm sorry because even though I promised to start looking at players, I've failed to get anything I find conclusive."Sephiroth wrote:...
Also, atticus, how is this:
different from this:Atticus wrote: Ugh! I can't get a read on anybody! 'Tis frustrating! I've still got nothing for you guys.
which warranted this?dusterhan wrote:i've got no idea who could be mafia... so, lets leave me alone and discuss who else could be a scumAtticus wrote:Dusterhan... Tsk tsk tsk... You need to stop volunteering for things you can't do. Examples: answering questions, playing the game mafia.
I do apologize for stirring a false lead with that post, it was simply if anyone was wondering as to whether or not Atticus was ever going to do that analysis. Also, not to OMGUS or anything, but I find it interesting that Aimee would change her vote based on that simple post, without putting so much reason behind it as joost did for a mere FoS."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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I guess that counts as a reason.Aimee wrote:...
You are quite clearly lurking in plain sight. Please provide some content.
Shanba - brings interesting points, and I think most of them are agreeable. Though he justifies some of his suspicions based on single things, which I do not like.
On the Sephiroth issue, I've never found him particularly scummy. Everything he does seems reasonable.
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If neededUnvote, vote: vampyrusddg.
Who did he replace? Nekka-Lucifer.
Why do I suspect him?
A) NL only made roughly 2 posts worth of contentful information. While in that stage of the game I was not much better, I admit, I do find this suspicious. Also, he makes a post asking for someone to explain why dusterhan is under suspicion. When asked about it, he explained that he didn't find dh scummy. Later votes dusterhan with little explanation.
B) Vampyrusdog's outrageous post being suspicious of me and dusterhan. In it, he claims that I sent him 2 questions (no four) which asked him for things that gave him a cop-out. This depends on us both being scum and me using a clever tactic to get a dumb person to answer in the correct way. Is away for awhile. FoS's Sephiroth for suspecting kabenon.
Vampyrusddg seems noncommittal. N-L seemed absent. Not much to read, but what there is to read seems scummy."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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I think this perfectly describes your jerkiness (decided to tone down language for childrens) even though I believe joost used it for another reason.joost wrote: - CKD's attempt to "discredit" Sephiroth by withholding information from him.
- CKD's appeal to emotion. I have not brought this up before but I agree with Kabenon and Seph on this.Townies should attack on arguments not on feelings.
- "ok if I am hung, and I come up town" We will see that when your dead, won't we? If you are hung and you come up town, I will reasses your posts. But I doubt you will."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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First, I would like vampyrusddg to answer these questions I posed to him earlier.Atticus wrote:If neededUnvote, vote: vampyrusddg.
Who did he replace? Nekka-Lucifer.
Why do I suspect him?
A) NL only made roughly 2 posts worth of contentful information. While in that stage of the game I was not much better, I admit, I do find this suspicious. Also, he makes a post asking for someone to explain why dusterhan is under suspicion. When asked about it, he explained that he didn't find dh scummy. Later votes dusterhan with little explanation.
B) Vampyrusdog's outrageous post being suspicious of me and dusterhan. In it, he claims that I sent him 2 questions (no four) which asked him for things that gave him a cop-out. This depends on us both being scum and me using a clever tactic to get a dumb person to answer in the correct way. Is away for awhile. FoS's Sephiroth for suspecting kabenon.
Vampyrusddg seems noncommittal. N-L seemed absent. Not much to read, but what there is to read seems scummy.
I can do that.Seph wrote:Fair enough. But I would still like some actual analysis from you."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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Oops, I said questions. Like I'm supposed to know what I wrote. [/sarcasm] Regardless I want vampyrusddg to address the suspicions I have laid on him. Further analysis of current going-on will come probably tomorrow. I'm out tonight."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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After a (thorough) skim, I'm finding nothing to conclude that CKD is scummy. I just don't like the way he's playing the game. I think that in his argument with Sephiroth he is one who sticks to his guns (appeals to emotion) regardless of whether they're effective, but I don't see anything voteworthy. I don't trust myself to do much else at the moment."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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So you think that because I, in a way, try and enforce TV's ways, that I am above the finger of suspicion level?destructor wrote:Post 79.
I was having a skim of some of the early pages and this post stuck out to me. It makes no sense. How on earth can a player of the uninformed majority ever claim to give a 'reason' to a random vote that can be considered even slightly legitimate and so 'increase its productivity'?Atticus wrote:On Random Votes:
The point of random votes is to gain early vibes and suspicions of people. To give a truly random vote, say from random.org, you can get no reaction from the votee, and thus, no vibe or suspicion. To give a reason for a random vote is fueling this activity, increasing its productivity. To truly suspect someone for a random vote, random FoS, or random vote reason, is degrading to the information process. Toreactto the such things, however, helps the town.
The sentiment behind this post resembles TinVision's reasoning back here (280):-TinVision- wrote:Not much pressure can hope to be applied, but at the beginning of the game, you take what you can get. As to your second question, it's not necessarily better. However, it's a part of an early game strategy to maximize that pressure. People pretty much ignore the first vote completely. The second vote however, as we can see clearly in this game, can get people riled. If a scum gets a vote stuck on them early that they can't be sure is random, it may shake them and lose their composure, revealing something to the town.HOS: Atticus
Until I finish reading, my vote on Tin stands."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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