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[Aj The Epic]

Well doing stuff includes reading so that's probably what I'd like to do. Any quick/dirty summary thus far?

[Aj The Epic]

Any summary will be biased, just rtt.

Are you suggesting that an obvious bad bias can be said without repercussions?

[Aj The Epic]

You're going to have a hard time because I have to get through some college work up until Thursday. So far in my reading, I question this Myokian press: What he said was incredibly controversial to this town ('honestly' being a scum tell, which it is statistically known that using 'honest' or any variants to head a sentence in speech more likely to lead into a lie than truth). However, he's pressed on an issue of what basically devolves to "I don't like you". And 37 was probably the best post in the early game.

Actually, just lynch lalendra. She's probably scum for post 86. Justification of hopping on a simple wagon AGAIN for wrong reasons, and putting myokian in a stupid position for what is a trivial vote compared to what the town could be going after. Also, the fact that no one in the town took it at face value as a reaction test is sincerely disheartening. But then again, it drew so many reactions it might've served a greater purpose.

Dwlee, in the next post, speaks the god-given truth. So many WEAK reasons to be on that wagon.

Garmr's post 89 is steeped in scum motives when he's talking to dwlee. "Yes, pressure a null read and IGNORE THE WAGON'S CURRENT SHIT STATUS and maybe get a better read". He also used an 'honestly' when self-reflecting earlier. Later on, he starts using it as if to dilute the purpose the word has in his own usage. I'd be interested in meta-diving a couple town games and just cont-f isos to see if it shows up often.

By page 6, it's looking like he should've been lynched...

Read to page 8 where gamr goes "I am power role"... I'd lynch that right then. He wasn't in any position to need to claim and just outs to pressure off.

[Aj The Epic]

Because I'm unaware of 41 other pages? I don't know, common sense dictates what I read on page eight may not be the current game state on day 3.

[Aj The Epic]

This sounds like scum talking. Given the count of players, if you're suggesting mylo there's two scum. You're giving us an 'either or' situation rather than saying it's this team. Myko and herrcombs actually have a lot of interaction day 1, which is something you wouldn't generally see from a scum team, especially with a new player like herr.

I don't know how you can be town when you're hitting every single scum tell in the books, including the "Oh wow" sort of reaction to a night kill.

In honesty, if it's been three days of focusing garmr without any investigative or substantive clears, he SHOULD"VE been lynched. This is a serious misplay by the town that he's still standing and that we have to deal with this now in mylo. I don't think he's town and my only real concern is I've never really played a full game with myko. I'll continue catching up but I doubt my opinion will change on this matter.

[Aj The Epic]

Wait, there's 7 alive and you're suggesting Mylo. We've had a scum lynch, so you're insinuating 4 total scum, 3 still alive?

[Aj The Epic]

When you replaced in, did you notice where your vote was? Did you care? I've been scumreading your slot off-and-on throughout the game, and while I know you didn't have a lot of time to catch up when you replaced in, you had a hand in meanmelter's lynch and said NOTHING about him prior to it happening.

Started from the beginning, only checked to see what people were saying when I posted.

No, I definitely would've pushed to lynch gamgr. I hadn't seen anything by meanmelter to make me think one way or the other (was he a replacement?)

[Aj The Epic]

This is what happens when scum kill the smart people aka everyone who ever town read me. Also with keyser town reading the entire counter wagon on me this game is pretty much lost when i get lynched.

Must've been a pretty small pool to have already eliminated all of them.

[Aj The Epic]

This was answered yesterday. If you aren't going to read my short iso, I'm not going to reiterate.

[Aj The Epic]

I agree that Ajs mean vote was really odd. I dont see why they would just vote for the popular wagon.

I didn't vote. I'll finish catching up here by the end of this week, but I don't have time for a lot of reading right now.

[Aj The Epic]

I'll finish catching up here by the end of this week, but I don't have time for a lot of reading right now.

Literally meaning the end of this week. I've been low activity on any game I have to read a lot into right now. because I'm studying for a test.

[Aj The Epic]

I see a lot of excuses to not do anything and shove the blame on me. If you're going to wait for me like that, you're going to be quite disappointed. I'm catching up as fast as I can but what the hell are you waiting for so much that you just start prod dodging while waiting? I may take a prod but more of you ain't doing much better.

nonono

you are going to post some more

Just to continue the fact Myko is town.

Ok back early and feeling better. Anyway i am not going to replace out as really what would that do I pretty much already claimed and you assume I'm going to do nothing all game except defend myself and what more can I actually do to hurt the game state other than claim this useless role... Another reason I took the break was when I came back I could see to how people would react with out my presence because I didn't want to fill 70 the chat with Me vs myko


Anyway what I got about three town reads out of it i'll do the scum reads after because tbh I'm lazy and it be interesting to see how people react.


Dwlee- He has been fighting hard for it and has a much better case than myko ever did even through it's still wrong and flawed in places. What I don't like is how he was pretty defensive of myko yet at the time myko had the best on him this worries me a lot. Also I feel like Dwelee is pushing for the fact That I am scum yet he refuses to listen to what others have to say when is criticed In a way that makes him come across as a stubborn townie rather than stubborn scum.

Heirama-I find this slot to be town. Because I don't really see a scum slot trying to push me to replace out and waste a potential mislynch that is the first big sign. Other than that heirs play has been consistent and I can see logic in pretty much all heirs posts.

Implosion-His debate with myko makes me lean more toward the town side. It looks like he his trying to convince myko of his point of view. As he thinks we are both town I think this falls in line with someone with a town mindset. He also shows more town hunting than scum hunting through scum hunting is there process of elimination is also a thing.

This post by itself isn't necessarily town. However, I ran through his iso after and he holds to this read list. That's the best counterpoint I have to lynching him so far, but it got little to no reaction. 1 known to be town, 1 I know to be town.

Hmm, I didn't read it as a policy lynch.
UNVOTE:
There would be no reason for a policy lynch on Garmr with how they've been playing. I don't even know right now. I liked her list but apparently I misread it. And now I don't know. I feel that Lalendra and Gamyr are an unaligned pair.. I think? But we know what the last "unaligned" pair ended up being.(@BBT & @Dierfire)

This isn't a good post by Dwlee. He's attesting to not reading into motivation and on top of that just sheeping. Then the person he had been following, he turns around and votes.


Continuing after the dem debate.

[Aj The Epic]

You were voting Gamr following Lalendra around. When she stated her vote was more policy, you declared that you wouldn't be voting for a policy lynch (even though she was far from the only one on the wagon). Then, two posts later by you, you turned around and voted for lalendra. The whole process was awkward.

[Aj The Epic]

You have shitty priorities. I sleep at night, too.

However,

VOTE: Delee99

The fact that you're relying on me to generate any discussion for you just isn't good. Nor is the idea that you're happy putting someone at L-1 solely off wanting catch-up posts. Your votes are flimsy and there's no town motivation in them.

[Aj The Epic]

Herrcombs, I saw the vote count when I replaced in and before I started reading. It held no significance to me because the only person I recognize is Myko. My assumption at that point was that I'd leave it to the better judgement of my own slot until I finished reading. Didn't look at it again. Lest I need to remind you that a consensus is needed to lynch someone and that consensus was reached by more people than my silent slot on that lynch. I've yet to see what spurred the wagon so I can't speak for anything involving it.

As for DWL, at this point I'm not convinced Garmr is scum. Dwl doesn't look town to me, but I also point to my opinion of Garmr before yesterday. His 'misrep', I'm willing to pass off as newness. I've never played with him to understand if he should be better than that. However, that question is also something you yourself can form an opinion on.

[Aj The Epic]

What about herrcombs, me, Dierfire and Garmr?

This was actually in reference to all of you, not dwlee specifically. I don't understand how Dwlee's had any sort of town read this entire game, but people have been town reading him from essentially page 1. I wouldn't be surprised if he is scum.

As for town myko in that post, town actively encourage other people to post. Myko didn't need to make that post by any stretch and could've just gone scum reading it for low content. Instead, takes the route of encouragement for content instead.

[Aj The Epic]

What about herrcombs, me, Dierfire and Garmr?

This was actually in reference to all of you, not dwlee specifically. I don't understand how Dwlee's had any sort of town read this entire game, but people have been town reading him from essentially page 1. I wouldn't be surprised if he is scum.

As for town myko in that post, town actively encourage other people to post. Myko didn't need to make that post by any stretch and could've just gone scum reading it for low content. Instead, takes the route of encouragement for content instead.

1. You're revising history. In your original post, you accused DWL of relying on you to generate discussion. It was your first sentence directly after voting DWL. This implies that you were using it as a justification for DWL being scum. Otherwise, why would you intentionally put it there? When Keyser pointed out the inconsistency, you backtracked and tried to make it a reference to the rest of the players. Not buying it.
2. You cherry picked Keyser's 1389 and 1390, ignoring his critique of your evidence for Garmr!town, that's my first issue with this. My second issue is specifically how you originally phrased "Just to continue the fact that Myko is town" where you had not mentioned a read on him previously in your posts. It feels awkwardly forced, and your elaboration of it rubs me the wrong way.

I am not revising history. Just because what I said was misinterpreted does not mean I'm changing what I said. I meant the entire group of you were doing shit all and I was right about it.

From Keyser, there is exactly one part of his two quotes I didn't respond to. To say I ignored his critique is giving him too much credit. So my question is why are you going so far out of your way to twist what I'm saying and misinterpret what I've done?

[Aj The Epic]

Yes we have three day... that's actually a hell of a lot of time. And I WAS referring to all of you because all of you are guilty. Dwlee's issues are fairly obvious and I don't understand why no one takes any note of it, but I wasn't singling him out when all of you are doing it.

And if you're complaining about time, again YOU wasted it just as much as anyone else.

Dwlee's scum. Lynch him when I flip town.

[Aj The Epic]

Yeah, lynch Dwlee tomorrow.

[Aj The Epic]

Yeah, seriously go after dwlee.

[Aj The Epic]

I was VT btw

[Aj The Epic]

When AJ hasn't even caught up when they said they would saturday. *throws hands in the air*

Okay, after I started you all ran up the votes. Why would I continue reading?

I swear if you guys don't have a power role confirming dwlee, he dies tomorrow.

[Aj The Epic]

:<

Yeah I probably should've tried to catch up more but situations kinda prevented it. Gamr, the idea of holding a vote over to see if someone tries to quickhammer is very old and doesn't work especially if scum has no daytalk. More importantly, scum would prefer to wait until you're offline or a while later just to be sure.

There were hints of Gamr town that apparently weren't ignored. I was hoping to god that you'd go after Dwlee after my lynch but apparently no one was paying that much attention. I can understand not trusting me too much for not having caught up all the way but jeez at least trust that one town read on myko :/

[Aj The Epic]

Also for the love of jesus some help catching up would've been so nice. Jerks.

[Aj The Epic]

AJ got me. I'm trying to figure out how xD. My posting that one day was absolute crap but the rest of the game made up for it but he hadn't read it.

Actually, your play yesterday was the most damning. I was confused with the early town read but then your vote instability D1 and the day we were on was so far off without any reason that something HAD to be wrong. Even NotScience doesn't hop around like that.