Open 28 - Quack Mafia. OVER! But who won? before 466

[Stewie]

It'll take me a couple of days to catch up. I'll start reading when I get home tonight. For now,

Unvote

[Stewie]

I'm sorry I didn't catch up yet - I'm having trouble finding free time. I should be able to do so later this week.

[Stewie]

I just finished reading the thread. A few things I noticed are:

-Dral posting to say he has nothing to post, BM following up with a similar post.
-CKD claiming he targeted nobody at night. Might be because as a doctor he thought it would be better for him not to protect someone and risk killing them, but worth noting.
-Piggy reads the game in 10 minutes and concludes that BM is the right lynch. I think that's a little too fast to come to that conclusion, particularly since she did not give any reasoning other than 'things that other people say and therefore she does not need to repeat' (paraphrased).


In conclusion, I think Piggy and BM are possible scum; and we need to keep an eye on CKD. I'd like to

vote: Ms Piggy

, hopefully she'll have more to say about BM.

[Stewie]

Not only that, but I am not the one voting for him (yet). I simply asked Ms Piggy to explain her vote. BM called the reasoning bullshit and voted for me. I don't see how it follows that when he thinks Ms Piggy is voting him with bad reasoning and I ask her to explain that reasoning, I should be the subject of his suspicion. This strengthens me suspicion that they are scum together.

BM: you are voting for me, the vote count is not flawed.


Also, what's with the underneath quoting? It's irritatingly inefficient. You make a comment, but I don't know what the hell you are talking about, so I have to scroll down to see what you are talking about and then go back to the top of your post to read your comment on what was said at the bottom.[/irrelevant rant]

[Stewie]

I think he is town.

[Stewie]

I think he is town.

based on?

From his posts, it seems to me that he's trying hard to win the game for the town. One thing that comes to mind is asking Piggy if she'd prefer lynching BM and lynching her if he came up town. Had not BM interrupted, the reaction could have been useful in finding both Piggy's and BM's alignments.

[Stewie]

why so defensive? If somebody does something i consider scummy, and another player seems to support this, they shouldnt be treated differently. Your reaction to my vote is enough to keep it there.

Huh? I'll break down the events for you:

-Piggy said that she's voting for you, but didn't really give a reason
-Stewie asks Piggy to explain herself better
-BM: vote stewie
-Stewie: WTF?

Note that I am not supporting Piggy. Furthermore, I really don't see why if that were the case, you are voting for me and not for Piggy, who is the one who played in a way you found scummy in the first place.

[Stewie]

Bump.

[Stewie]

1. Piggy: votes for BM giving no reasons other than "those already stated by others" (paraphrase)." When asked to elaborate in her own words, she doesn't, so one can only assume that she has no reason to vote for BM. There's also Dral's behaviour to consider.
2. BM: after I ask Piggy to explain herself, he somehow concludes that I support Piggy (which is not true) and votes me. It seems as if he is reluctant to vote for Piggy, and votes for me despite the fact that I do not agree with Piggy's "logic" (she didn't really give a reason of her own, or pointed out other people's reasons). He also keeps ignoring me when I say that I do not agree with Piggy's logic, that I don't know what led him to this conclusion, and that I actually want Piggy to to explain herself (I am voting for her, after all, so what would lead him to believe I agree with her?). There's other things too, like when Dral posted to say he had nothing to post, and BM agreed, also with no content.

3. curioskarmadog: he's on my list because I need three people for the list and not two. I don't really think he's suspicious, but I'm keeping my eye on him due to the fact that he did not protect night one. If the question was "who do you find suspicious?" with no specific number of people, he would not be on this list. I wouldn't lynch him on what we have so far, however.

[Stewie]

I'm here, also waiting. Voting for Piggy, but I would just as easily vote for BM instead.

[Stewie]

Ms Piggy hasn't posted on the site since Aug 29

[Stewie]

Ms Piggy hasn't posted on the site since Aug 29

I didn't know you had a crystal ball.

?

[Stewie]

Oh, yeah.

[Stewie]

I'd love to make the first "target claim", but I'm waiting for Thesp to dig out Dral's N0 choice.

*pulls out crystal ball*

"It was fernando, so sayeth the crystal ball, and so it was."

Correct me if I'm wrong

[Stewie]

@Stewie: Having been very cynical since the beginning, I suspect Dral may have given a false target-claim to ruin the game. At any rate, doesn't hurt to be sure.

Why would he want to lie?

[Stewie]

@Stewie: I told you why.

I suspect Dral may have given a false target-claim to ruin the game.

In more basic words, he was fucking around with town.

I know your hate for me stems from my predecessors, but you didn't give much reason for voting Piggy. All you said was:

Unvote Vote: Ms Piggy, looking for a quick end to the day are we? That's an awful excuse.

Which I don't believe warrants a vote on his successor. I've presented evidence to go with all my accusations, so I'd appreciate it if you can come up with your own legitimate case for why you voted me. Or, at least provide a stronger case on Piggy.

BTW, if you do some metagaming, he does that very often.

Piggy quickly voted for BM, trying to end the day. She gave no specific reason for her vote, and when asked she said that others had already said their reasons, and those were her reasons too. When asked to repeat these reasons, she did not.

[Stewie]

i guess no one is actually reading this thread.

Well, I'm already voting for Desisted. Acording to the last vote count, you are voting for yourself, so you might want to replace your vote, rather than have the mod go back and fix it.

[Stewie]

So basically you're saying the only reason I have any votes on me at all is because Dral claimed to targeting Fernando? That is inane.

How is that inane? It doesn't even fit the context of the sentence...

[Stewie]

Somehow I confused the meaning of inane as "useless." Never mind.

[Stewie]

I already told you that Indy is scum. I'm not changing anything. It seems obvious to me.

Even if he is, he can't be the only one.

[Stewie]

Can you vote for him though? This day has been going on for two months.

[Stewie]

How so? Because it's you the one I want lynched?

[Stewie]

Myself and, I assume everyone else who is voting for you, think you are scum. If Jdodge also finds you suspicious, which he said he does, then he should vote for you to finally end this

two

month old day. I really don't understand what you are not letting slide.

[Stewie]

You are saying that I'm trying to end the day just for the sake of ending the day, and I'm saying that:
1. I find you suspicious.
2. Other people voting for you find you suspicious.
3. JDodge finds you suspicious.
C. Therefore, I'm not trying to end the day for the sake of ending the day; I'm trying to end the day because it's been going on for too long and we already have someone a large number of us finds suspicious.

[Stewie]

Quacks can't kill mafia.

So if your target lives, he's scum.

Or he is.

[Stewie]

I protected Jordan.

[Stewie]

so all that remains is roach's claim.

curiouskarmadog---Jdodge
Stewie---Jordan
JordanA24--- Vel-Rahn Koon
Tarhalindur---Hjallti
somestrangeflea---Jdodge
JDodge---somestrangeflea
Roach
Honary Hitchhiker----somestrangeflea
Vel-Rahn Koon --??
Hjallti ---??

Yes, it is important to realize that VRK and Hjallti did make choices, we just don't know what they were.

I guess that now we are waiting on roach.

[Stewie]

When you can, do elaborate. From the day 1 and 2 claims I can't conclude anything, they all lead to "X targetted Y, therefore X is scum, Y is scum, they are both scum, or X is a doc" or some similar statement which leads us nowhere.

[Stewie]

Anyone else disagree with the no-lynch enough to vote for me? This is important, relevant info.

Depends. As it stands (ie: with no explanation) yes, it is. I'm not going to do so yet, because it seems that you do have an explanation, and I'd like to hear it first.

[Stewie]

I was expecting an explanation as to why no lynching would be a good idea. "I didn't really mean it" is not a good explanation, so

vote: jdodge