mini 1662: Paint the village red
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I'm going to go ahead and
VOTE: BBT
Unlynchable is a useless sack insofar but I don't like any of the people who followed me onto it, and given Slandaar's posting so far it's possible his meta has changed over two years.
I abhor the shitty reasoning for BBT's vote, the huge overread, the way he declared it as explicitly not RVS, and the way he's trying to establish himself as a town leader.
Usually I like those kinds of people but this guy seems super forced and trying to emulate his own town playstyle where he tries to have strong presence but failing to be genuine about it.
Plus, the townreads that he's parceling out are absolute and complete crap. Wanderer is where my vote would be if I wasn't here, and he claimed a townread?
Literally, there's no way I can see to get a townread out of that read at all.
Besides that, happy birthday Pisskop, and why are you trying to shepherd my votes?-
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Too town to be town? Not at all, you're super fake.
You come across as acting, not genuine, fabricated, falsified, artificial.
None of this makes you "too town to be town."
Now you're probing someone who you supposedly think is scum for the reasons they OMGUSed you?
That's not town leader, that's guy who is acting like town leader because he doesn't want pressure to fall on him. And you being this rattled about it proves it.-
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Oh my, you think you've rattled me?
Your ego must be through the roof.
Oh wait, I know your ego is through the roof.
Show me posts to back up your points.
Alright, so let's break this down.
Oh my, you think you've rattled me?
This is obvious showmanship. It could potentially be a variation on narcissistic rage (ie defending his ego as opposed to his town or scum status) but it becomes very scummy when you look at it in the following light.
Your ego must be through the roof.
Oh wait, I know your ego is through the roof.
How exactly does my ego come into this for saying that I rattled him?
If he's town, regardless of my alignment (which he doesn't know) there's nothing in my previous posts to indicate ego and his perspective would have me as either an idiot or flailing scum, thus making this make no sense.
But look at this from a Scum!BBT light. His insecurity regarding his ability already having been established, he gets super defensive when I call him out, but because Icalled him out correctlythat makes me good at the game from his perspective, which pisses him off so he tries to knock me down a peg by essentially saying "oh you're not that good for catching me."
That's what this entire post is about.
Show me posts to back up your points.
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I have noticed that BBT has made statements that one would normally consider to be matters of opinion (i.e. "I think X is scum") as statements of fact (i.e. "X is scum"). I thought this was a little brazen but I had assumed that this was just his normal way of trying to drive the game by drawing lines in the sand and inviting debate.
This isn't scummy in the general case, but the way he's doing it constantly and it's coming across as forced makes me think he's scum.
Nope. But I think that scum can afford to hand out a few shallow townreads that they can retract later.
Yeah, it's really this.
I don't see any possible rationale for a townread on wander, so I'm fairly sure he just threw that out there.
Possibly because he's scum and he wants to give the impression that he's super invested and and reading the game super hard.-
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Your insistence on seeing this as a battle of who is better makes it clear that you're mafia.
Town wouldn't see it like that, because my tunneling you would then make me either flailing scum (not clever at all) or idiot town (not clever at all.)
Only situation your current attitude makes sense is if you're scum and think I'm town.-
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So what if I disagree with that.
We're at a crossroads now.
Do I
1) Argue with you that it does, have the superior argument, but have you do your pigeon thing and shit all over the board.
Note: Strength of argument is not an effective way to change anyone's opinion.
2) Take you at your word and reject the clearly correct hypothesis.
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3) Just lynch you since you're scum and ignore the useless crap you say.-
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See you seem to think I'm going to need to get into some sort of macho reparte with you to get you lynched.
If I get you lynched without engaging in that, you still flip scum and I don't waste hours of time ineffectually arguing with someone who is obligated by the rules of the game to be dishonest and sneaky anyway.-
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I won't be getting lynched toDay.
It would take anybody 5 seconds to look at any of my games on this site to see that I pretty much always say 'X is town/scum'.
It is in no way alignment indicative.
That's my point though.
It looks artificial, like you're trying to emulate your usual town meta.
You appealing to it means nothing under those circumstances.-
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I'm saying to you if you go and look at my games you will see I use the same wording as either alignment.
But it's still artificial in the context.
Using the wording itself is not alignment indicative, but it's artificial which creates an issue and "trying to emulate your town meta" is how I bridge that gap.-
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You know, Mofu, just because someone says that everyone's going to sheep them, doesn't mean it's going to happen.
I also sort of disagree with your argument for why he's a good D1 lynch. Arguing over a definition of meta doesn't make his lynch any less or more useful.
He's a good D1 lynch because he's scum.-
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I still think BBT is about as good as a D1 lynch that we're going to get, as most of the discussion has been based around his use of the word meta.
I also sort of disagree with your argument for why he's a good D1 lynch. Arguing over a definition of meta doesn't make his lynch any less or more useful.
He's a good D1 lynch because he's scum.-
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I'm going to go ahead and
VOTE: BBT
Unlynchable is a useless sack insofar but I don't like any of the people who followed me onto it, and given Slandaar's posting so far it's possible his meta has changed over two years.
I abhor the shitty reasoning for BBT's vote, the huge overread, the way he declared it as explicitly not RVS, and the way he's trying to establish himself as a town leader.
Usually I like those kinds of people but this guy seems super forced and trying to emulate his own town playstyle where he tries to have strong presence but failing to be genuine about it.
Plus, the townreads that he's parceling out are absolute and complete crap. Wanderer is where my vote would be if I wasn't here, and he claimed a townread?
Literally, there's no way I can see to get a townread out of that read at all.
Besides that, happy birthday Pisskop, and why are you trying to shepherd my votes?
Wanderer is where my vote would be if I wasn't here, and he claimed a townread?
Given that you clearly didn't see that, you clearly haven't given any detailed reading into my ISO.
That means you're pushing a lynch that you haven't really thought through. That's pretty scummy, but I think you're more likely to just be a moron at this point.-
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Listen, Scripten. The entire obstinacy thing was just to see whether or not you had actually read the wanderer thing, because I had a feeling you were going to try to lead me into saying that and push a lynch on Wanderer on a basis like that or something, with a post like "oh I just noticed here RC said X."
I am left with the alternative that I deemed radically less likely, that even though my scumread on Wanderer contrasting with a claim of a townread from BBT was something that I found impossible to reconcile, and was in fact one of the main reasons that I pushed BBT in the first place, you have somehow forgotten it or didn't read it, while trying to pressure my slot.
What response do you want from that?-
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And why are you so goddamn protective of RC, anyway? It's like as soon as the slightest criticism comes her way, you hop right in.
I already find this odd but given the context of our games together, one finished, I can sort of see why this is happening.
Even a casual look through of games that have us both together should give some insight as to why he'd do it, town or scum.-
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I haven't paid strong attention to you since I've been busy with other people, Wanderer, but here's why I thought you were scummy on page 5.
Post #12
This is gonna be fun.
VOTE: evilpacman18[/unvote]
Porbably a popular random vote because of your nicname but I'm gonna do it anyway.
Makes excuses for an RVS. Guilty conscience.
In post 49, Wanderer-nl wrote:Well then allow me to ask about it since you guys are in such a discussion now it's easily going to be ignored..
In post 24, RadiantCowbells wrote:Basically that.
There's a fairly decent chance that my vote doesn't change at all today.
Why is that?
Passively notes things that are happening but doesn't get involved in them. Very active lurk-y.
#53
Next time I'll check back before posting...
Why would Slandaar be worth a policy lynch?
I'm fairly new to this site so don't know many players yet.
Again notes what's happening but doesn't actually get involved or take a stance. Super active lurk-y, gives an excuse for why she acts so, and this is where she becomes a scumread.
I mean just follow the ISO. Tons of posts that don't actually involve her in the game.-
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He was the best of townies, he was the worst of times, he was the man of wisdom, he was the child of foolishness, it was the game of belief, it was the game of incredulity, it was the RVS of Light, it was the RVS of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had the whole game before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Victory, we were all going direct the other way – in short, the period was so far like the density of its critical player, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison to RC's density only.-
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