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VOTE: pisskop
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In post 18, bji wrote:Weird though that we don't even know how many scum there are. For all I know we could be in LYLO right now. What a strange concept.
We are not in Lylo for sure.
33% scum 66% town at most, if I am right.-
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In post 21, bji wrote:In post 19, Count Dooku wrote:In post 18, bji wrote:Weird though that we don't even know how many scum there are. For all I know we could be in LYLO right now. What a strange concept.
We are not in Lylo for sure.
33% scum 66% town at most, if I am right.
pisskop says that we don't know how many scum are in this game. But you're saying that we know an upper bounds on the number of scum.
What do you know that pisskop doesn't know, or is pretending to not know?
I read that somewhere on the wiki... I will search the page for you, if you want.-
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Balancing Mafia games is an art unto itself. However, in general a Mafia should make up about 20% to 25% of your initial population of players. The number of total scum in the game CAN go up to 33% of the total players if the Town is particularly strong, but this 33% usually does not come from one faction.
(http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mafia)-
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I don't want to lynch pisskop right now.
UNVOTE:
Btw, my vote was an RVS vote-
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In post 93, Nickname wrote:Alright, I don't have time to post a lengthy reply atm because school but I thinkVOTE: pisskop seems good for now. If I'm not mistaken, he should have 6 votes now bc Lapsa's vote got removed.
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@Victor
Yes, I have.
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@Lapsa
Why are you unable to give answers/reads/anything useful?-
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@TMJ
Why did you vote bji?
Why did you unvote?-
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Then why don't you give them?-
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In post 153, Nickname wrote:In post 135, Lapsa wrote:is your mind made of words?
UNVOTE: VOTE: Lapsas
Avoiding the topic isn't going to do you any good.
Why do you jump on the most popular wagons all the time?-
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I am still waiting for you to answer this, Lapsa.-
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In post 161, Count Dooku wrote:
I am still waiting for you to answer this, Lapsa.
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In post 167, Lapsa wrote:In post 165, Count Dooku wrote:Lapsa, why are you trying to avoid answering my question?
not just trying - succeeding at that
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In post 170, VictorDeAngelo wrote:@everyone voting Lapsa- this is his playstyle. You probably won't like it, but doesn't mean he's scum.
Maybe that is his stlyle. But ceratinly not playstyle. What he is doing here is not playing.
From now on I will ignore everything Lapsa does. In this game, or anywhere else.-
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In post 172, Count Dooku wrote:In post 170, VictorDeAngelo wrote:@everyone voting Lapsa- this is his playstyle. You probably won't like it, but doesn't mean he's scum.
Maybe that is his stlyle. But ceratinly not playstyle. What he is doing here is not playing.
From now on I will ignore everything Lapsa does. In this game, or anywhere else.
Oh, and hope the vig shots him.
To be honest he had better replace out. Or don't "play" MS at all...-
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In post 174, Count Dooku wrote:In post 172, Count Dooku wrote:In post 170, VictorDeAngelo wrote:@everyone voting Lapsa- this is his playstyle. You probably won't like it, but doesn't mean he's scum.
Maybe that is his stlyle. But ceratinly not playstyle. What he is doing here is not playing.
From now on I will ignore everything Lapsa does. In this game, or anywhere else.
Oh, and hope the vig shots him.
To be honest he had better replace out. Or don't "play" MS at all...
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I don't think he is dumb. He "plays" like this on purpose. He is a jerk.-
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In post 221, Lapsa wrote:In post 219, JohnnyFarrar wrote:@lapsa quote the part of pacman's post that convinced you to remove your vote
In post 208, evilpacman18 wrote:84 might actually be Lapsa being somewhat town?
Lol. It is the worst reason to unvote.-
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In post 223, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Why's that?
Isn't it obvious enough?
Lapsa unvoted pacman ONLY because pacman townreads him. I have never seen anyone townreading someone else only because that person townreads him.
Also, scum can say that he was townreading him too. So it cannot be alignment indicative.-
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Who is Lhasa Apso?-
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In post 242, Prolapsed Brain wrote:In post 236, Count Dooku wrote:Who is Lhasa Apso?
So, let me tell you a little story. A parable, as it were.
This is a game called Mafia. In it, we use our deductive powers to ascertain who is Bad and who is Good.
In order to do this, we must interact, but ALSO we must employ our brains. Now, I understand this is more difficult for some people than it is for others, but everyone should be able to logic a tiny bit (or they shouldn't be here).
All this to say, you might glance at the list of playernames that the Moderator has conveniently provided for us, and see if Lhasa Apso might just possibly be similar enough to an extant playername that it might match.
End of lesson.
So let me tell you a little story.
The player called Lapsa. Not Lhasa Apso. There are no player called Lhasa Apso.
I dunno why didn't you call him Lapsa. Maybe you are unable to read. Or write. Or you wanted to look funny... If so, it was not. Neither your post.-
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I don't know who (bji?), but somebody said that there was a very little chance that somebody quickhammered pisskop when he was at L-1.
So here you go:
A player just replaced in and in his first post quickhammered (town flip).
People didn't lynch him on D2. He quickhammered again (town flip). Still zero content given by him at all.
People didn't insta-PL him the next Day.
And as you can see I don't even have that much MS experience (4 months).
So quichammering is a real problem. And people don't even care about it. Be careful with putting someone to L-1.-
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I am trying to avoid trolls since that, but it looks like there are trolls everywhere.-
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In post 283, SilverWolf wrote:In post 277, Count Dooku wrote:I don't know who (bji?), but somebody said that there was a very little chance that somebody quickhammered pisskop when he was at L-1.
So here you go:
A player just replaced in and in his first post quickhammered (town flip).
People didn't lynch him on D2. He quickhammered again (town flip). Still zero content given by him at all.
People didn't insta-PL him the next Day.
And as you can see I don't even have that much MS experience (4 months).
So quichammering is a real problem. And people don't even care about it. Be careful with putting someone to L-1.
Do you remember newbie 1562 when Tammy (scum) hammered Dani (town) who was at L-1 while pretending it was a mistake because I sure do.
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In post 287, bji wrote:In post 283, SilverWolf wrote:
Do you remember newbie 1562 when Tammy (scum) hammered Dani (town) who was at L-1 while pretending it was a mistake because I sure do.
I would not believe it was a mistake and I would have moved hell and earth to lynch Tammy.
In the only game that I played where there was something like a quickhammer, the hammerer was scum, I was cop,and I investigated him because I was certain that we'd have to lynch the quickhammerer the next day, and it being lylo, we had no chance to be wrong. They were scum. But we lost anyway because a griefer got mod killed. Which is why I am very wary of griefers.
It is easy to be clever in retrospective. And that situation was more complex. But let's talk aboutthisgame.-
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In post 301, bji wrote:In post 293, Count Dooku wrote:In post 287, bji wrote:In post 283, SilverWolf wrote:
Do you remember newbie 1562 when Tammy (scum) hammered Dani (town) who was at L-1 while pretending it was a mistake because I sure do.
I would not believe it was a mistake and I would have moved hell and earth to lynch Tammy.
In the only game that I played where there was something like a quickhammer, the hammerer was scum, I was cop,and I investigated him because I was certain that we'd have to lynch the quickhammerer the next day, and it being lylo, we had no chance to be wrong. They were scum. But we lost anyway because a griefer got mod killed. Which is why I am very wary of griefers.
It is easy to be clever in retrospective. And that situation was more complex. But let's talk aboutthisgame.
Wha?? Post 277, friend. Practice what you preach!
Anyway, I'm fine with that advice. No more talking about other games or 'gameplay discussion thread material' from me.
Yeah I know that I brought up this topic. But 277 had at least a little connection with this game (see how I started that post).-
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Meh.
I think pisskop - Aeronaut is town vs town.-
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Gut says so.
I am getting town vibes from them.
There is nothing better for scum than tvt "fights". When the "stars" of the show are townies they can just lurk. If either of them were scum, other scum would take a stand. On the townie's side to fool the town, and to get some town creds when the mafioso dies and flips scum; or on the scum's side to help him out, imo.-
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In post 373, Count Dooku wrote:
Gut says so.
I am getting town vibes from them.
There is nothing better for scum than tvt "fights". When the "stars" of the show are townies they can just lurk. If either of them were scum, other scum would take a stand. On the townie's side to fool the town, and to get some town creds when the mafioso dies and flips scum; or on the scum's side to help him out, imo.
And as you can see about half of the posts are about pisskop vs Aero (and bji), so if they are indeed townies scum can lurk, or strengthen the disagreement between them, without giving too much content.-
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In post 378, Lapsa wrote:In post 373, Count Dooku wrote:Gut says so.
I am getting town vibes from them.
There is nothing better for scum than tvt "fights". When the "stars" of the show are townies they can just lurk. If either of them were scum, other scum would take a stand. On the townie's side to fool the town, and to get some town creds when the mafioso dies and flips scum; or on the scum's side to help him out, imo.
isn't that a stand?
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Oh wow. Nickname replaces out?!
He was my strongest scumread. Now I am sure that he is scum, who tried to run away, after getting some pressure.
VOTE: Nickname-
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In post 384, JohnnyFarrar wrote:In post 380, Count Dooku wrote:Oh wow. Nickname replaces out?!
He was my strongest scumread. Now I am sure that he is scum, who tried to run away, after getting some pressure.
VOTE: Nickname
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In post 392, bji wrote:Also, why beat up on a player (Nickname) who isn't even playing right now? I'd like to hear a good summary of the case on Nickname that has everyone voting him when he's not even here to defend himself.
Post 53. The only thing stood for him is your behavior. Nothing else. It is not a big problem by itself, but:
Post 93. He doesn’t talk about bji anymore. He puts back pisskop to L-1 on purpose. But doesn’t state any reasons. Just jumps on the biggest wagon, and tells us that he doesn’t have time to tell us those reasons (maybe because he was hoping for a hammer?). And remember initially he found bji scummy (or interesting) and not pisskop. But now, he votes pisskop.
Post 114. „I am bad at mafia”-card. I hate it. When he does something scummy, and poeple impeach him, he can just say „Oh, sorry I am town, who is bad at mafia”.
Post 153. After the attention was drawn to Lapsa, he votes him, and he doesn’t say anything original, just states things about Lapsa that already have been stated by others.
So very little content given, and he did only scummy things.
And now he is running away, after he got some pressure.-
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In post 396, Lapsa wrote:In post 379, Count Dooku wrote:
In post 378, Lapsa wrote:↑ Count Dooku wrote:Gut says so.
I am getting town vibes from them.
There is nothing better for scum than tvt "fights". When the "stars" of the show are townies they can just lurk. If either of them were scum, other scum would take astand.side to fool the town, and to get some town creds when the mafioso dies and flips scum;On the townie'sorto help him out, imo.on the scum's side
isn't that astand?
What do you mean?
Obviously when I said "take a stand" I meant "take a stand on one side, while attack/suspect the other side".-
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If we lynch Nickname and if he flips town, I am pretty sure that at least one of West and Brain is scum. They followed my vote too quickly.-
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@Aristophanes
Your vote is asinine. Mine is fine. I hope you read my posts, before you voted me. I DID NOT VOTE HIM ONLY BECAUSE HE REPLACED OUT. I voted him, because he did very-very scummy things, then got some pressure, then replaced out. Replacing out by itself is not scummy. But he clearly replaced out after people started to scumread him.In post 439, Aristophanes wrote:Count Dooku, your vote is absolutely asinine. Please elaborate on this scum read and how replacing out when he was clearly busy with RL and overwhelmed by his other 3 games makes him obvious scum.
And again, it is not the only reason.
1) I know that I am town. Why would anyone say something like: "I think "A" and "B", and also myself are scummy". I don't understand you...In post 439, Aristophanes wrote:Count Dooku, what makes the swift following of Brain and West scummy to you? Why does it make them scummier than yourself?
2) I was the first one who scumread Nickname:
So unlike them I didn't just jumped on a new popular wagon.In post 98, Count Dooku wrote:In post 93, Nickname wrote:Alright, I don't have time to post a lengthy reply atm because school but I thinkVOTE: pisskop seems good for now. If I'm not mistaken, he should have 6 votes now bc Lapsa's vote got removed.
And I don't like this post...
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If you happened to miss this post, please take a look at it. You can find the longest explanation made for the votes on him/you. It is interesting that no one else found my vote asinine, only you. Maybe you didn't read this.
If you still think it is asinine, please tell me why. Because nobody will buy your artificial reads if you don't give explanations for it.In post 397, Count Dooku wrote:
In post 392, bji wrote:Also, why beat up on a player (Nickname) who isn't even playing right now? I'd like to hear a good summary of the case on Nickname that has everyone voting him when he's not even here to defend himself.
Post 53. The only thing stood for him is your behavior. Nothing else. It is not a big problem by itself, but:
Post 93. He doesn’t talk about bji anymore. He puts back pisskop to L-1 on purpose. But doesn’t state any reasons. Just jumps on the biggest wagon, and tells us that he doesn’t have time to tell us those reasons (maybe because he was hoping for a hammer?). And remember initially he found bji scummy (or interesting) and not pisskop. But now, he votes pisskop.
Post 114. „I am bad at mafia”-card. I hate it. When he does something scummy, and poeple impeach him, he can just say „Oh, sorry I am town, who is bad at mafia”.
Post 153. After the attention was drawn to Lapsa, he votes him, and he doesn’t say anything original, just states things about Lapsa that already have been stated by others.
So very little content given, and he did only scummy things.
And now he is running away, after he got some pressure.-
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In post 445, Gliffie wrote:@Dooku: Is anybody other than Ari scum?
Yup.
Scum
Aristophanes
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In post 445, Gliffie wrote:Dooku - Fine except for his Nickname vote reasoning. That's dumb
Why?
Did you read post 397?
If so, and you indeed think that my vote is bad, tell me why do you think it, please.-
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In post 421, JohnnyFarrar wrote:This is ridiculous. People replace out. Maybe he had IRL shit. Maybe he couldn't keep up with the game. Maybe all of my swearing was grating to his delicate eyeholes. This vote is arrogant and stupid.
I hate it. Again, I have to tell you guys the same shit.
His replacing out was only another reason to vote. Obviously I didn't vote him only because he replaced out. For instance, if I read him as town, and than he replaced out, I would not scumread him from then on. Yes, maybe he had RL shit, maybe he couldn't keep up with the game etc. But. Why did he sign up? Why didn't he read some other games to see whether people swear? If he knew that he will be having a lot of RL things to do, why did he sign up? Why did he request replacement only after people started to scumread him?-
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In post 459, Count Dooku wrote:than
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In post 465, Gliffie wrote:
By all means, don't elaborate then
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Post 106 - That is not a reason to vote. At all.
Post 143 - He unvotes, without any explanations. Maybe he noticed that nobody else votes bji, so if some one asked him to explain his vote, he should say something, so "it is better to unvote, I don't want to spend my time on making artificial reads"
Barely ever does he post anything, even then just pops in, asks at most one question, doesn't give content + I don't like lurkers. I have very bad experiences with them.-
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okIn post 471, Aristophanes wrote:Starts with a RVS vote. That's fine.
niceIn post 471, Aristophanes wrote:Some mechanics stuff, alright in context.
? I don't understand you?In post 471, Aristophanes wrote:Asks questions that are very surface with no follow-up.
False. I didn't wait until the wagon got bigger. If I would have indeed waited for it, then why didn't I vote right after SW voted? I voted him, because he was very scummy, and than he... wait, I have already told you guys several times, so if you don't mind I won't finish the sentence…In post 471, Aristophanes wrote:Like, other than the eyebrow raising in my direction (with no vote until the wagon got bigger) until his 29th post, 371th of the game. Even that he followed up only with a gut read.
Yup, "that was the last straw". I still don't think my vote is dumb. You are the only one who called my vote dumb. Maybe because my vote is on your slot?In post 471, Aristophanes wrote:Nickname vote only happens because he is replacing, or "running away". I still say that's dumb.
Maybe he lied. Maybe he didn't lie. Maybe he was too busy indeed. But maybe he used that excuse to run away. Btw, yes. He states in his first 2 posts that he is busy. Then why didn't he replace out right then? Why only after people started to suspect him? Because he was scum. So thank you. You gave me one more reason to scumread that slot.In post 471, Aristophanes wrote:In the first two posts, he is clearly too busy to make a proper post. I respect IRL commitments. I believe people wouldn't lie about them. Does that make this slot scummy?
That can be alignment indicative. For instance I used it in my first game on this site (I used the newbie card, but that is quite similar to the "bad at mafia card") and I was scum. Obviously I wouldn't read anyone as scum only because he used that card, but there are other more scummy things he did, and also this one, which is definitely not towny, that is null or scummy.In post 471, Aristophanes wrote:I can agree that the "I suck at Mafia" card is crappy, but why is it SCUMMY?
BUT EVERYTHING I SAY IS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.In post 471, Aristophanes wrote:I still don't like 399. I know you wouldn't say YOU are scummy, but from my perspective, I see all three of these as potentially scummy votes.
It seems thatIn post 471, Aristophanes wrote:Also, when you addressed my question, I don't think you quite got it.youdidn't get my answer. I got everything.
Again. Take a look at the paragraph before last one.In post 471, Aristophanes wrote:You only voted once a wagon was forming and Nickname was replacing. Brain and West did the same. I don't see how you can call them scummy when you did the same thing.
Also.
I have never said that they are scum. Please read my posts, before you vote me. Thanks.
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Did you read it?
If you still think that I said that they are scum because they jumped on the wagon, let me help you:
I know that you misreped me on purpose, to make me look scummy, though. One more reason to scumread you.In post 399, Count Dooku wrote:, I am pretty sure that at least one of West and Brain is scum. They followed my vote too quickly.If we lynch Nickname and if he flips town
IMO not. But we can have different opinions.In post 471, Aristophanes wrote:As well, stating you don't like a post and stating you think its poster is scum are two totally different things.
I didn't vote him earlier, because I was less sure about his alignment. His replacing out was enough for me to vote, as I said several times.In post 471, Aristophanes wrote:And if you thought Nickname scummy, why no vote until so late in the phase?
So yeah, your vote is crappy, mine is fine.-
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I was busy yesterday, I am sorry.
I will catch up, don't worry.
In post 497, Aristophanes wrote: 421 was where Johnny called out your vote.
Did you miss that Dooku?
Oh, sry, then 2 people didn't like my vote out of 13.-
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In post 504, Tjoe Min Ja wrote:In post 467, Count Dooku wrote:Post 106 -That is not a reason to vote. At all.
Post 143 - He unvotes, without any explanations. Maybe he noticed that nobody else votes bji, so if some one asked him to explain his vote, he should say something, so "it is better to unvote, I don't want to spend my time on making artificial reads"
Barely ever does he post anything, even then just pops in, asks at most one question, doesn't give content + I don't like lurkers. I have very bad experiences with them.
Read post 216. Lol. I ald explain.
The bolded part is still enough for a scumread/lean...
Btw, I like that you are trying to help the town with contribution, reads and questions. (sarcasm)-
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In post 583, VictorDeAngelo wrote:I haven't read since page 9, can someone tell me what I missed?
Every post made from page 9.-
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In post 587, Count Dooku wrote:In post 583, VictorDeAngelo wrote:I haven't read since page 9, can someone tell me what I missed?
Every post made from page 9.
I guess it is better whit 'since' page 9-
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In post 597, Aristophanes wrote:Also, I totally thought %100 was some weird European thing until you corrected yourself XD
Europeans are totally cool people! We are not that weird!-
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In post 613, VictorDeAngelo wrote:In post 593, evilpacman18 wrote:In post 583, VictorDeAngelo wrote:I haven't read since page 9, can someone tell me what I missed?
I'd say read from like 15.
Since this seems to be the only real suggestion, this is what I'll do.
Because 'read everything' is not a real suggestion?
You should read everything. Everything is important... For instance you may point out things that we didn't notice. Although, if you are scum you don't want to help us...-
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I think it is opportunistic.
I think you are scum.
If you get a Jester slot, play like this. They will lynch you.-
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In post 621, Prolapsed Brain wrote:Thank you! I cherish such direction of my play from a Master Scumhunter as yourself.
You are welcome, my friend!-
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In post 667, Aristophanes wrote:Can you Please back off of Silverwolf for a bit! Like, holy shit guy!
I don't know what do you mean... Bji didn't do anything insulting imo.
About Silver's reaction. I think that was a townslip, based on her meta. Although I could see that reaction as scum is angry because bji caught her, but: I have played with her before:
6p MyLo D3, newbie game (Newbie 1562)
We decided to do a popcorn mass claim. One JK outed: Silver Wolf, no CC. Our IC, Tammy lurked all game (except D1). After the mass claim, another player, called deathfisaro started to lurk. RayFrost didn't lurk, but he was not active either; he decided to leave MS, and that was his last game. TheBreeze was a newbie, he tried to help, but he did some serious mistakes, and obviously he couldn't help us that much. I didn't have much experience either, I tried to help, though. Silver was the only active player, and she did everything she could, but after Tammy, the IC continued to lurk, and only popped up to say that she didn't have time, etc., Silver got really angry, just like this.-
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I will not lynch the SW/Titus slot.-
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Also, not only town can be "informed". Maybe pisskop is an informed goon. I am not saying that he is, but there is a little chance for it. For now I think he is town, but keep in mind that maybe he is scum, who could claim a PR at no risk.