Open 27- Bird C9 (Game over!) before 466

ryan · Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:42 am

Before I go let me get a random vote out there.........See ya Sunday Night

Vote spectrumvoid

ryan · Post Post #20 (isolation #1) » Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:39 pm

Barmacral wrote:Sorry, been checking the site daily... and haven't been able to find this game. Had to ask our mod for the link. Don't worry though, I won't get hopelessly lost again.

But you found the game to post this comment and still didn't cast a random vote? Interesting............

ryan · Post Post #24 (isolation #2) » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:53 am

Barmacral wrote:I never cast random votes. Even now that you are all doing it, there is no real rhyme or reason to it, and nobody feel's pressure to defend themselves. Casting random votes doesn't further the game at all, so why bother?

Don't further the game? I 100% disagree with that statement and I guess we'll see if a little pressure gets some more talking.

Unvote/Vote Barmacral

ryan · Post Post #27 (isolation #3) » Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:53 pm

A couple of random votes early in a game makes guilty people sit up and take notice and gets them talking. The chance to get a mafia member to slip up and tell too much about themselves early in the game is what I'm looking for. I'm very happy to put pressure on you right now and see if the cookie crumbles and to see what other voting patterns happen. Maybe your scum buddies will build a bandwagon on somebody else and than we can trap them. OR maybe we just take you out Baramacral and chalk it up to a great first day lynch?

You don't seem very interested in scum hunting, in fact you aren't a fan of random voting, don't really see a need to throw out a "who gives a crap vote" I find that to be a little strange. Why no vote? Where does that get you in finding scum? A no vote (as stated above) is the same as a No Lynch on Day 1, which is a HUGE townie mistake and puts us in a hole immediately. I mean we've already got you talking with a few pressure votes, maybe we'll get you to crumble and take out a mafia member on Day 1 (a nice little victory for us)

ryan · Post Post #29 (isolation #4) » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:23 am

Barmacral wrote:I never cast random votes. Even now that you are all doing it, there is no real rhyme or reason to it, and nobody feel's pressure to defend themselves. Casting random votes doesn't further the game at all, so why bother?

Barmacral wrote:A random vote though? Who cares? Its part way through page 1, and half of the other people have a random vote on them as well, whats another one gonna do?

A random vote does nothing for the game. Now if you get two or three random votes on you (well, the later ain't so random I suppose) then it starts too build up pressure, as you are actually moving towards a lynch.

TWO people asked why you wouldn’t post a random vote and than all of a sudden you post a random vote? Even after you said you NEVER posted a random vote? We all seem insistent? How about two people asked why you wouldn’t? What are you hiding here on page #2 already? You seem to be kind of edgey already. Feel like giving up your role already too? (sarcasm of course)

ryan · Post Post #31 (isolation #5) » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:38 am

I'd like to hear more from you Aimee. I see you logged in quite a bit, what say you on the current state of the game?

ryan · Post Post #36 (isolation #6) » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:13 pm

I'd also like to hear from Fernando and spetrumvoid, what do you guys think on the current game/players?

ryan · Post Post #38 (isolation #7) » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:17 am

Aimee: Totally agree on the "Barmacral is acting plain odd" statement and although I believe him to be scum at this time, I also agree with your comment about the fact that he seems to take a little pressure and cave and that could hurt us in the end game if he's still around. Tarhalindur, doesn't worry me as much with the pressure vote to another player back to Barmacral. Jumping votes around doesn't freak me out as much as not having a reason for doing it, I think he explained himself enough that I don't feel much scummy wise from him currently.

Fernando and spetrumvoid are the two that are making me wonder a little bit. Random votes still on doesn't throw up a scumflag, but their lack of discussion this early in the game looks to me as just lurking, and until they step it up with content I find their silence anti town.

ryan · Post Post #40 (isolation #8) » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:01 am

Aimee wrote:And what about Enlightened Bystander? I would add him in with that group too.

Exactly. I had him listed in an earlier post I did. Maybe a couple of pressure votes thrown his way will get him moving

ryan · Post Post #42 (isolation #9) » Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:24 am

I believe the PM's are working even if you get that error message, just check your outbox and make sure whoever you pm'ed is in there.

ryan · Post Post #46 (isolation #10) » Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:10 am

Enlightened Bystander wrote:Sorry about the lack of communication, I was busy for longer than I expected.

Conversations so far;

Barcarmal is playing slightly unusually, and the bowing to pressure does worry me, but I don't think what he's done is a strong scumtell.

Fernando attempting to distract could just be newbish mistake, but it could also be a scum distraction. He also seems to be lurking a bit, but It's not like I can talk about that!

Tar's drifitng between those two could be fishing for a bandwagon, or it could be drifting off the most suspicious person here.

Spec's not been round much either.

ryan is reasonably active, got dragged in to the discussion on RVoting with bar, but has now moved on to discussions with aimee.

Aimee's not done anything too suspicious either.

Overall, nobody seems to trigger off too heavy an alarm for me yet, I think we need more discussion to build up.

Some content, good to see

What do you think should be done with lurkers?

ryan · Post Post #48 (isolation #11) » Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:04 am

Any early thoughts on Barmacral's scumminess?

ryan · Post Post #49 (isolation #12) » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:33 am

Unvote/Vote:FeRnAnDo. Although I still find Barmacral scummy, this game is dragging along due to players like Fernando not posting. Post 21 was useless and just a post stuffer. He's had zero content. Aimee, you've been weighing in nicely now, any thoughts on our lurkers/non content posters?

ryan · Post Post #51 (isolation #13) » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:50 am

Any reason for you still being voteless?

ryan · Post Post #54 (isolation #14) » Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:35 pm

Aimee: I noticed him in another thread that I was looking at the same thing. I'd say our best bet for now is to look at the people who are able to post and judge them that way.

ryan · Post Post #58 (isolation #15) » Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:12 pm

spectrumvoid wrote:
mod + everyone

Sorry... I was hospitalised for dengue fever and dehydration. I wanted to leave a note somewhere but my brother swears he couldn't post because he didn't register.

Hope things are better for you

ryan · Post Post #60 (isolation #16) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:17 am

FeRnAnDo wrote:sorry, sorry for not adding too much content... that nonsense post about football was made because it was late on the night and i logged on mafiascum expecting some good read... then got bored a wrote that stuff

I just noticed Barmacal has only 33 game posts, 7 less than me. he may not be used to pressure... in my first game, due to pressure, i sent a pm to a player saying i was COP and that got me modkilled, i don't blame him... but that doesn't mean he's townie, since not voting is really weird.

And Tarhalindur spitting out votes all over really made me raise an eyebrown.

I actually don't mind people shuffling votes around getting the quiet players talking, right now we are dragging some serious butt and need to get some people moving along when it comes to posting

ryan · Post Post #62 (isolation #17) » Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:40 pm

Aimee wrote:I want to hear more from Barmacral and Fernando, definitely.

Cephrir, spectrumvoid needs a prod. From her absense in other games, I am pretty sure that she is currently not here - she hasn't posted in a while in any games - so I definitely don't think it is strategic lurking from her part.

Since you seem to be the one adding content, I'll ask you, what do you think of Fernando's latest post?

ryan · Post Post #64 (isolation #18) » Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:00 am

Cephrir wrote:Enlightened Bystander is entering prod range soon.

I think that you can safely prod him now

ryan · Post Post #66 (isolation #19) » Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:09 pm

Barmacral wrote:Sorry folks, was gone a couple of day's longer than planned. I'm back.

Ok welcome back, now let's see some content.

ryan · Post Post #68 (isolation #20) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:25 am

I like the idea actually. My two scum votes right now would be........... (in order)

1) FeRnAnDo: I feel his posting isn’t of content and he’s lurking more than anything. His football comment earlier was a complete waste of a post. Post 55 seems to say, well Barmacal hasn’t posted as much as I have.” Unfortunately neither have posted content of any sort

2) Barmacal: I don’t like him not liking random votes as I always find the random vote stage a way to gauge how people vote and how they act when people vote them. THAN when asked to give a random vote he was more than happy to do it.

Pro Town Players (IMO)

1: Aimee
2: Tarhalindur

The others I don't really have a read on as of yet.

ryan · Post Post #70 (isolation #21) » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:58 am

Come on game, we have 3 of 7 people posting thoughts on the game currently, with 3 pages to read I'm surprised we cant give some thoughts on the gamers currently.

ryan · Post Post #73 (isolation #22) » Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:29 am

spectrumvoid wrote:
mod + everyone

Sorry... I was hospitalised for dengue fever and dehydration. I wanted to leave a note somewhere but my brother swears he couldn't post because he didn't register.

So are you back with us or being replaced?

ryan · Post Post #75 (isolation #23) » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:56 am

Aimee? Barmacral? spectrumvoid? Care to weigh in?

ryan · Post Post #80 (isolation #24) » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:05 am

FeRnAnDo wrote:i used to have townperson under my name too, now it changed to goon... why is it?

Its based on your post count. The more you post than that name changes

ryan · Post Post #82 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:53 am

Well since your post is the first one since mine on Saturday afternoon, we could use some more agressive players in this game right now.

ryan · Post Post #83 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:01 am

FeRnAnDo wrote:i know i'm not in position to demand posts, but
barmacral said he was back... and added no content since then
... i'd like to hear more from him

Actually you are right. Let's place a little pressure on him to come through. And maybe get a little more discussion started in this *insert crickets* quiet thread.

Unvote/Vote: Barmacral

ryan · Post Post #90 (isolation #27) » Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:01 am

Aimee: First off Barmacral misrepresented my post. I asked him why he stated, and he did state that he NEVER does random votes. I than asked when he planned on voting and why voting randomly was a bad play in his mind. (Voting randomly and putting pressure draws out players who aren’t posting and than we learn more about them) That entire exchange resulted in a small amount of pressure to at least random vote and after stating he NEVER did that, he did just a few posts later (in 28)

As for doing a “big post” on somebody……..um we’re 4 pages into this game with little information, I have no problem posting a little info on EB though.

Post 10: Random Vote on Ryan
Post 15: Says we are quiet but than states he’ll be away till Tuesday
Post 43: Overall post about the game, nothing earth shattering here
Post 47: Says to poke lurkers and than eventually some pressure votes might be a good idea. Nothing scummy here
Post 69: Throws out his top two suspicions. FeRnAnDo and Tar. His explanation on Fernando for not adding any information is a one of those “huh?” EB also hasn’t added a whole heck of a lot up to this point either, so I’m not happy with that for his reasoning. Doesn’t really throw a good suspicion on Tar either. Basically these look like two choices and he doesn’t seem to have good reasoning for either

An obvious non contributor and is worthy of a pressure vote. I’m happy with my current pressure vote on Bara but I wouldn’t hesitate to place one on EB.

ryan · Post Post #91 (isolation #28) » Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:02 pm

Is that ^ sufficient Aimee?

ryan · Post Post #95 (isolation #29) » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:12 am

Unvote/Vote Enlightened Bystander

Barmacral: I'm not a fan of the comment that you admit to lurking and stay quiet, but I asked for content and I am satisfied with what you posted. So in keeping with my voting lurkers, EB has been extremely quiet and it seems as though I'm not the only one who doesn't have a read on you, so I'm fine with putting a vote on you till I hear something that shows me if you are town or scum. So far you've done enough on both sides that I don't who you are affiliated with, so a vote on you I think is warranted.

ryan · Post Post #97 (isolation #30) » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:53 am

Anyone?

ryan · Post Post #101 (isolation #31) » Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:16 am

Aimee wrote:
ryan wrote:Is that ^ sufficient Aimee?
Sort of. Definitely did what I asked, but you didn't really get to conclusion, which was my aim - do you think EB is scum?

I do not have a concrete opinion on EB at this time. He hasn't posted enough for me to get an accurate read on him. His top two scum choices weren't fingered very well and I didn't get much after reading that post. He's definetly a lurker but I'm not sure if that concludes he's scum.

ryan · Post Post #104 (isolation #32) » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:07 pm

And what if EB doesn't pick up his prod?

ryan · Post Post #106 (isolation #33) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:31 am

Good, hopefully we get some fresh blood in here as we are really dragging right now

ryan · Post Post #108 (isolation #34) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:54 am

Actually that isn't 100% true, you've explained them but you are voteless.

ryan · Post Post #110 (isolation #35) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:48 am

FeRnAnDo wrote:EB's post fulfilling aimee's assignments is extremelly necessary for my vote cast, which will be done as soon as he puts it here...
just posting to show that i'm not inactive
.

Techincally you are. You are saying that if EB doesn't post something you can't post and that isn't true. I'd like to hear what you think about a few of our lurkers?

Tarhalindur: Post 99 you promised some content, nothing yet, when can we expect it?

ryan · Post Post #117 (isolation #36) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:47 am

Unvote

I'm happy with the participation from our newbie

Vote FeRnAnDo

Latest post says "I'm posting to show I'm not inactive" just screamed scummy to me, so I'm happy with this as we're still waiting for a little analysis from him

ryan · Post Post #119 (isolation #37) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:09 pm

Cephrir wrote:Vote Count. From now on, I promise I'll only do this once a page.

spectrumvoid 2 (Barmacral, Tarhalindur)

FeRnAnDo 1 (ryan)
Aimee 1 (spectrumvoid)

Not Voting 3 (Aimee, FeRnAnDo, Mokina)

4 to lynch.

An idea (just an idea) Is to edit it in to the top of each new page, (in a different color like Blue or Red) than we know to look at the top of every new page for the latest vote count.

ryan · Post Post #121 (isolation #38) » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:39 am

FeRnAnDo wrote:EB's post fulfilling aimee's assignments is extremelly necessary for my vote cast, which will be done as soon as he puts it here...
just posting to show that i'm not inactive
.

How is this not scummy? You are admitting to lurking and NOT adding any content, obviously you are watching the thread but not posting.

ryan · Post Post #123 (isolation #39) » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:39 pm

FeRnAnDo wrote:you quoted a post, how could i be not posting? I was justifying my absence, since i said i'd only cast my vote when EB finished his tasks and he was taking too long... stop with your rethoric, i was the headmaster of the school you learned it.

You justified your absense? With what, a OMGUS comment? You didn't DO or SAY anything, you posted to show you weren't lurking and did a terrible job at that. EB was known to be missing most of (if not the entire game) so you saying you'd post after he did was a nice way to make up for you NOT DOING ANYTHIN. Excuses won't get you off the hook in this one, if you are the teacher, than I just schooled you my friend.

ryan · Post Post #126 (isolation #40) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:55 am

Tarhalindur wrote:Tarhalindur Note: I'm still here, with a little more access than I've had for the last week or so. Unfortunately, I've fallen a bit behind in this game. I'll try to reread and get my thoughts on the game and my reply to Aimee in in the next couple of days.

A quick glance at the thread tells me that ryan is attacking Fernando. I don't like this; as I noted before I got hit with limited access, I spotted something in one of Fernando's posts that makes me 90% sure he's pro-town.
FoS: ryan

Unfortunately, I've just got word that I'm going to be on vacation from August 4-12. I'm 90% sure that I'll have no Internet access at that time.
Mod
, if that's going to be a problem then you should probably start looking for a (temporary?) replacement.

Why shouldn't I attack FeRnAnDo, he's making excuses for why he can't post a player analysis and you think that's legit? Than he posts a "I'm still here don't worry" post and still doesn't post analysis. EB was already MIA this entire game (and has been replaced) post your analysis and quit waiting for others to lead you.

ryan · Post Post #129 (isolation #41) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:49 am

spectrumvoid wrote:
Sharing things in mafia is a good idea.

Tarhalindur: Where's the 90& sure bit?

That's why I can't understand FeRnAnDo's excuse for not posting

ryan · Post Post #130 (isolation #42) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:47 am

Aimee: What you do you think about FeRnAnDo?

ryan · Post Post #132 (isolation #43) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:59 am

Gaining information is bad? How so Aimee?

ryan · Post Post #135 (isolation #44) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:17 am

Aimee wrote:No, but I think I may have spotted what Tar spotted. Not sure though. That's what I meant anyway.

Ok.........huh?

ryan · Post Post #137 (isolation #45) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:20 pm

Well I guess we wait for a replacement than

ryan · Post Post #140 (isolation #46) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:36 am

You could also say that Tarhalindur is scum and that is why he knows FeRnAnDo is innocent

ryan · Post Post #143 (isolation #47) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:52 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:
ryan
: I agree with some, if not most of his posts, but this strikes me as invariably stupid:

ryan wrote:You could also say that Tarhalindur is scum and that is why he knows FeRnAnDo is innocent
This is a massive overstatement and exaggeration of the situation. Too opportunistic if you ask me, maybe scum trying to recover from losing a potential suspect for the town.

As early as we are in this game for somebody to say they are 90% sure somebody else is town is a heck of a stretch (even you have to admit that) that is why I posted what I said. I'm a little confused how I made #2 on your most suspicious list when you said you agreed with most if not all of my posts, care to clarify?

ryan · Post Post #145 (isolation #48) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:12 am

Tarhalindur wrote:I spotted something in one of Fernando's posts that makes me 90% sure he's pro-town.

There is the exact quote. For some reason a few players (Tarha, Fernando and Aimee) seem to have information that they aren't willing to share or at least reasons they feel somebody is town that they aren't willing to share, that isn't very pro town if you ask me and the argument that it will help the scum isn't an argument, the scum know who they are, as long as we aren't giving out roles, I find no reason to not give reasons why somebody is town. We seem to have no problem fingering people for scum, so why not why people are town? One if not two of those three are scum.

ryan · Post Post #147 (isolation #49) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:20 am

Tarhalindur wrote:
spectrumvoid wrote:Sharing things in mafia is a good idea.

Tarhalindur: Where's the 90& sure bit?
I will not elaborate at this time.

He had a chance to explain why Fernando was town and chose to do this post instead. Actually upon a little review of the game I do have a little more suspicion toward Tarhalindur than I did before, something about Aimee isn't sitting right with me right now.

ryan · Post Post #149 (isolation #50) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:28 am

Tarhalindur wrote:If we're going to do nonsensical things in an attempt to get the game moving, we should really make it something mafia-related (like, say, random bandwagoning and lurker hunting). Talking about futbol most assuredly does not help the town find mafia - indeed, such non-game-related discussion actually distracts the town from actually finding mafia.

The correllary here is that talking about a subject unrelated to the game is very good for the scum, since by distracting the townthe scum make it less likely that the town will find and lynch them.
Unvote, Vote: Fernando

Aimee wrote:I'm still here. Mod, could we maybe get a prod on Barmacral?

ryan · Post Post #151 (isolation #51) » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:49 pm

Fernando: Your vote was already there Fernando, if you are trying to start up the bandwagon, it doesn't seem to be working my friend.

ryan · Post Post #154 (isolation #52) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:18 am

Come on game, if nobody see's this latest vote by Tarhalinder as 100% opportunity by a scum you aren't paying attention, show me what he's done in this game besides lurk? I am a pro town player being targeted by two opportunistic scum.

ryan · Post Post #158 (isolation #53) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:40 am

How is Fernando's vote on me and than Tarha's vote within a few posts (after not contributing) not raise a huge red flag? Eratic behavior? I don't like games where people sit on their hands with no votes and no opinions and let the town lead, scum don't normally lead games, they look for a townie to make a mistake and than they pounce on it and see if they can get a quick lynch before the rest of the town has a chance to weigh in. We have enough players doing this currently to give me a great indication that Fernando and Tarhalindur are scum and NOT just because they have a vote on me, it's how they went about doing it. I can say with total certainity that if we get one lynched, we can get the other the next day after our cop investigates, this game should be a no brainer but lack of participation and some estranged townies are making it alot more difficult.

ryan · Post Post #160 (isolation #54) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:00 am

Unvote/Vote: Tarhalindur

I don't think it matters which one we take out, whether it be Fernando or Tarhalindur, it doesn't matter, either or needs to go.

ryan · Post Post #161 (isolation #55) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:10 am

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:So vote Tarhalindur with me.
You're talking a big game, but you're not doing anything to back it up.
That's a scum tell.

BTW. That is NOT a scum tell. Voting without a reason is a scumtell, voting just to prove you "are backing it up" is a nice way for scum to get you to follow, instead of voting with your own head. I have no problem putting a vote on Tarhalindur's head as I do feel he and Fernando are our scum.

ryan · Post Post #163 (isolation #56) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:13 am

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:FOSing a player multiple times and encouraging others to vote for that player without yourself committing to do so is scummy behavior.

How many times have I FoS'ed Tarhalindur before that post? I'll answer that one for you, zero. In fact I don't use FoS very often in this game, more often than not I drop a vote on them subject to be lifted dependent on observations or content to a question I've asked.

ryan · Post Post #165 (isolation #57) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:38 am

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
ryan wrote:
The Central Scrutinizer wrote:FOSing a player multiple times and encouraging others to vote for that player without yourself committing to do so is scummy behavior.
How many times have I FoS'ed Tarhalindur before that post? I'll answer that one for you, zero. In fact I don't use FoS very often in this game, more often than not I drop a vote on them subject to be lifted dependent on observations or content to a question I've asked.
FOS as a general term of suspicion, not the "official" bolded FOS. Glad that you're all too willing to split hairs.

I suppose we'll figure out who's scum and who's not eventually. I think I will be vindicated.

Not splitting hairs, making sure that we are talking about the same thing is my current objective.

ryan · Post Post #167 (isolation #58) » Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:09 am

Aimee: Nothing from you since last Thursday, any of the latest developments strike you enough to comment?

ryan · Post Post #169 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:02 am

spectrumvoid wrote: Hence, if we buy the 'I'd be fine with voting for tar or fernando', why choose tarh?

I find both to be scum, does it matter which scum we lynch as long as we lynch one? I'd rather get one than none so whether it be Fernando or Tar, I'm happy as long as we get one of the scum.

ryan · Post Post #171 (isolation #60) » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:47 am

I know I'm town and have watched both of them try and place a case on me for awhile now with sketchy reasons at best. Tar's reasoning for voting me were pathetic and made it an easy vote to place on him. Either or is scum, and if you don't believe me, investigate me, I'm here to out the scum.

ryan · Post Post #173 (isolation #61) » Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:13 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Vote: Mokina

I've mulled over this one for a while, and this seems the right thing to do. Reasons were detailed in my other post.

Uh........Mokina isn't even playing anymore

ryan · Post Post #176 (isolation #62) » Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:19 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Oops, that's true. But Mokina being my top suspect,
I still hold TCS accountable for his predecessor's actions
.

Woah, hold on a second. Shouldn't we be lynching the "role" not the person?

ryan · Post Post #179 (isolation #63) » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:34 am

spectrumvoid just posted today

ryan · Post Post #181 (isolation #64) » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:58 am

Cephrir wrote:Err, wow, how did I miss that?

Eh, it happens 8)

ryan · Post Post #184 (isolation #65) » Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:44 am

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
Because I'm town, and she agrees with my assessment of who our scum are
.

Ask yourself why you're the "most town" on my list.

You have Aimee on your town list though and SV has a vote on her as scum, that's not really agreeing is it?

ryan · Post Post #186 (isolation #66) » Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:06 am

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
ryan wrote:
The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
Because I'm town, and she agrees with my assessment of who our scum are
.

Ask yourself why you're the "most town" on my list.
You have Aimee on your town list though and SV has a vote on her as scum, that's not really agreeing is it?
SV voted Aimee in her first post. She hasn't said anything about Aimee's scumminess in subsequent offerings. Which, now that I think of it, merits a
FOS: Spectrumvoid
.

Well that is what I couldn't figure out why you had her on your town list. Is SV's vote still her random one?

ryan · Post Post #188 (isolation #67) » Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:28 am

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:That's how I read it. If it wasn't random, I'd like to know why it's still there.

8 pages in with a random vote is suspicious, guess we'll have to wait for SV to answer this question

ryan · Post Post #191 (isolation #68) » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:06 am

Aimee wrote:TCS' quick change of opinion on SV after I note it is very interesting.

Are you saying you didn't notice it?

ryan · Post Post #193 (isolation #69) » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:11 am

Aimee wrote:
ryan wrote:
Aimee wrote:TCS' quick change of opinion on SV after I note it is very interesting.
Are you saying you didn't notice it?
I don't really understand what you mean by this.

SV has had a random vote on the entire game and nobody has called her on it.

ryan · Post Post #195 (isolation #70) » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:23 am

Aimee wrote:
ryan wrote:
Aimee wrote:
ryan wrote:
Aimee wrote:TCS' quick change of opinion on SV after I note it is very interesting.
Are you saying you didn't notice it?
I don't really understand what you mean by this.
SV has had a random vote on the entire game and nobody has called her on it.
Yeah. I remember noticing it a while back, but at that time SV had barely posted. I noticed just now because of Cephrir's vote count.

Her random vote has been on you the entire time and you just noticed that?

ryan · Post Post #200 (isolation #71) » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:34 am

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:Distancing ignore?

QFT

ryan · Post Post #203 (isolation #72) » Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:16 am

spectrumvoid wrote:
ryan wrote:I know I'm town and have watched both of them try and place a case on me for awhile now with sketchy reasons at best. Tar's reasoning for voting me were pathetic and made it an easy vote to place on him. Either or is scum, and if you don't believe me, investigate me, I'm here to out the scum.
Let's look at ryan's response.

1. I know I'm town. O_o.
2. Investigate me.
3. It was easy to vote for Tar.

My first reaction was 2 = godfather, but this is an open game without one.
3 sounds like opportunistic voting. But then again, tar's vote was as opportunistic.

Couple of things before I vote: check out TCS. At this point, I'm leaning on TCS / mokina being pro-town, but I'll have another look. Also, I think tarhalindur and ryan both look scummy...

So you think TCS is town and his case on Tar was legit but me agreeing was opportunistic? Explain that. I'd also like to hear more about you not paying attention to where your vote was when you just posted on Wednesday, it's not like you've been missing from this game for weeks.

ryan · Post Post #205 (isolation #73) » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:21 am

FeRnAnDo wrote:ryan looks desperate for someone that trusts him and is throwing out decoys like post 202 pointed well. I will not say Tar isn't scum, his early actions stained my impression of him, but i think it's unlikely that he is teamed up with ryan, who's surely one.

You haven't posted since the 22nd and this is your return post? I am not scum, but I appreciate your wild accusation and pretty much non content post where you say Tar could be scum BUT you doubt it he is. Nice comeback

ryan · Post Post #207 (isolation #74) » Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:48 pm

Aimee? The Central Scrutinizer? Anything you'd like to add to the game?

ryan · Post Post #209 (isolation #75) » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:27 pm

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:Saturday is a bad day, and my internet at home is on the fritz.

Than we can expect to see something from you Sunday or Monday?

ryan · Post Post #212 (isolation #76) » Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:17 am

Aimee wrote:Erm, where's everyone else? Fernando, ABR, Tar?

How about some opinions from you?

ryan · Post Post #214 (isolation #77) » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:53 am

Tarhalindur wrote:I'm here (been using my notes to get together a PBPA on ryan), but I'm a bit short for time ATM. I should have a PBPA on ryan in the next day or two.

But no other suspects eh? Guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

ryan · Post Post #216 (isolation #78) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:17 am

Aimee: I find it pretty funny that YOU are giving out assignments in this game when you've been lurking pretty badly. Asking questions of everyone is great for discussion but I don't see you doing a whole heck of alot when it comes to scum hunting. Why don't you do a little analysis of the game? Your scum/town/netural lists and some actual CONTENT instead of just reviewing your "assignments" and questions you've asked.

ryan · Post Post #217 (isolation #79) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:56 am

Aimee Analysis
Post 8: Random vote on ryan
Post 17: Asks for a prod of Barmacral, also states “I’m still here”
Post 32: Notes Tarhalindur’s behavior as odd and says the same about Barmacral but could be just a townie who succumbs to pressure. Unvotes her random
Post 34: Wants content from Enlightened Bystander
Post 37: Wants my comments on her analysis
Post 50: Wants more from Fernando and Barmacral and asks for a prod on spectrumvoid
Post 53: Reasoning for spectrumvoid being inactive
Post 63: Wants Fernando to do a player analysis, thinks he’s added vague info so far
Post 85: An actual content related post where she gives analysis on players than sets her “assignments” (still doesn’t place a vote on anyone)
Post 88: Responds to Fernando and Tarhalindur’s comments (asks more questions)
Post 98: Says my post is “sufficient” asks if I believe EB is scum
107: Wants more participation (still no vote even though she states she’s explained her suspicions)
109: Perfectly happy with not voting
114: Agrees with Mokina’s post
131: Disagrees with a spectrumvoid post and finds Fernando innocent
133: Thinks she spotted what Tarhalindur spotted (whatever that was)
182: Asks TCS and Spec questions (no real content nor a vote)
189: Notes a change of opinion of TCS on Spec
An exchange than how Spec had a random vote on Aimee the entire game and neither seemed to notice (or so they say)
199: Says that she expected Spec to remove the vote since it was “random” but didn’t really pay attention to it
210: Asks where ABR, Tar and Fernando are.
215: Massive post where she looks back at our “assignments”

I still find it interesting that you haven’t placed a vote on anyone yet seem to want to know exactly how we feel about certain players in the game. Also find it strange how you seem to be "wanting" things from all of us yet you are non commital when it comes to

a) your vote
b) Suspicions on Spec for leaving a random vote on you for 8 pages
c) Thoughts on ABR

Ya look like you are playing pro town YET instead of proving analysis you are asking for everyone elses opinion, why is that? Why don't you put out a list of your own for once?

ryan · Post Post #219 (isolation #80) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:01 am

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
vote: Aimee

This assignment shit is pissing me off. Lead the town more,
please
.

QFT and glad I wasn't the only one getting disgusted by these "assignments"

ryan · Post Post #223 (isolation #81) » Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:17 am

spectrumvoid wrote:Hm... I don't really find anything bad per se about leading the town, provided the 'leader' is a good one.

However, I too don't like Aimee's requests. I'll state why: Aimee could be scum waiting to hear what the rest of us think, then echo some request and hop on a wagon.

I feel like Aimee is trying to get a read on everyone while not sharing much information about herself, definetly something I find a little scummy.

ryan · Post Post #224 (isolation #82) » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:15 am

Cephrir wrote:Tarhalindur is being prodded.

How about FeRnAnDo?

ryan · Post Post #226 (isolation #83) » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:15 pm

Cephrir wrote:ryan, it's only been three days since his last post.

2 posts in the past 9days was what I thought should have been addressed.

ryan · Post Post #229 (isolation #84) » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:27 am

spectrumvoid wrote:My thoughts on ryan...

Let's look at ryan's response...

I think tarhalindur and ryan both look scummy...

10 pages and that's all you have? That I'm scummy

ryan · Post Post #231 (isolation #85) » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:50 am

So you have one response on me and that's all you're willing ot share on the game?

ryan · Post Post #233 (isolation #86) » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:02 am

Cephrir wrote:Fernando is being prodded.

FWIW, Fernando was replaced in another game I'm currently in with him

ryan · Post Post #234 (isolation #87) » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:51 am

Aimee wrote:Also, just in case people wonder where I am, I may have a bit of limited access.

Will be gone from August 4th to September 1st in the French Riviera.

I'll be studying in a college there so I should have access for several
afternoons each week, yet probably not everyday.

I should probably be gone from Saturday to Tuesday/Wednesday. Cephrir, I would request that I don't get replaced.

Also, I'll get some content up before I go, guys. Promise
.

Should we still be counting on this?

ryan · Post Post #236 (isolation #88) » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:53 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Yes. In other news I'm going camping until monday.

Anything new before you leave?

ryan · Post Post #238 (isolation #89) » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:56 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:I somewhat agree with 217.

LOL, somewhat? Would you care to explain?

ryan · Post Post #248 (isolation #90) » Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:44 am

Aimee: You've been giving assignments most of this game and up until recently (till you were called out on it) you hadn't given alot of information/content/opinions (as I detailed in my long post on you) . Your lack of voting or even FoS'ing people has made me leary of you and I will definetly keep my eye on you for awhile. FeRnAnDo still seems scummy to me but I'm also in another game with him where he was replaced, so I'll reserve judgment on him till he is replaced or gets back to active posting (I still feel scum on him) Spec's lack of scum hunting and the one time she did post content it was on one person and nobody else, she's been way too quiet. The Central Scrutinizer I believe is pro town, I find his content to be good and his questions to be done at a good time and well placed on individuals who deserve them. ABR makes me nervous because he's been extremely quiet which doesn't mean he's town, but normally when he's scum he dominates the game. For now I'm going to

Unvote/Vote:spectrumvoid

Call it a pressure vote or what you will but Spec, you need content and participation

ryan · Post Post #251 (isolation #91) » Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:06 am

TCS: Seriously, you'd put Spec that low on your list? She hasn't done anything as far as content or scum hunting in this game. Tarhal does strike me as scum, as does Fernando but I'm a little surprised that Spec isn't higher on your list especially with that random vote she had on for as long as she did (that still screams of distancing to me)

ryan · Post Post #254 (isolation #92) » Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:51 am

I guess I think SV and Fernando should be higher on that list (IMO)

ryan · Post Post #256 (isolation #93) » Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:23 am

Aimee wrote:
ryan wrote:I guess I think SV and Fernando should be higher on that list (IMO)
What are your thoughts on Tar and ABR being at the top?

Tar has been on my list as scum (as I stated in my above response) Barmacral/ABR and his “I never random vote but ok now that you pressured me I do” still struck me as scummy so I’ll be interested to see how ABR plays the role now, I definetly have my eye on him

ryan · Post Post #259 (isolation #94) » Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:27 pm

Fernando: I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you but basically you haven't been active in this game nor very helpful. I think you calling me desperate was a nice move to shift unnecessary blame on me and keep it off of you. If you can't post consistently, FINE, but get a replacement than and don't come back every so often to shoot off quick suspicions on people and than disappear for pages.

Also reaffirming a vote on somebody is an obvious bandwagon attempt and something I'll keep in my notes on you.

ryan · Post Post #261 (isolation #95) » Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:22 am

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:Ok, I'm just about ready to lynch someone. And that person is Tarhal-scum.

unvote, vote: tarhalindur

I have him on my scum list as well but I'm curious, why the "I'm just about ready to lynch someone" speech?

ryan · Post Post #263 (isolation #96) » Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:23 am

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:Because I'm ready to move on. If I were modding
this game it would be deadlined already
.

I can't disagree there.

ryan · Post Post #265 (isolation #97) » Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:56 am

Unvote/Vote:Tarhalindur

I'm not even sure who got the first vote on them SO I'll make sure that one of my top suspects leads right now.

ryan · Post Post #266 (isolation #98) » Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:40 am

ABR? Spec? Fernando? Aimee? Tarhalindur? Anyone?

ryan · Post Post #268 (isolation #99) » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:06 pm

Well lurker, what question would you like answered?

ryan · Post Post #270 (isolation #100) » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:51 am

You're right it was a misunderstanding, I was saying you were ducking a vote and mistyped and said you were ducking a post. In 151 I brought up what I consider to always be a scum trying to start a bandwagon by “reaffirming your vote” The vote count shows where you have a vote and anytime somebody points that out again I always find that to be somebody trying to start a bandwagon on somebody. Misunderstanding aside, I still find you scummy but I’m more interested in Tar’s response to a couple votes thrown his way.

ryan · Post Post #272 (isolation #101) » Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:36 am

Spec and Aimee don't rate on your list? Interesting

ryan · Post Post #274 (isolation #102) » Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:41 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Well, Aimee is pretty consistent. Spec has changed from pro-town to unreadable, really.

Well with a deadline of Saturday who's the best lynch at deadline?

ryan · Post Post #278 (isolation #103) » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:49 am

I'm confused how a re-read with some new suspects and new possibilities=scummy?

ryan · Post Post #280 (isolation #104) » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:59 am

I don't think anyone is claiming that Spec has played this game very well.

ryan · Post Post #282 (isolation #105) » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:09 am

Seemed like a rather abrupt post and since I'm in a few more this wasn't totally unexpected.

ryan · Post Post #285 (isolation #106) » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:55 am

A week from tomorrow is a fair deadline Cephrir, thanks for giving the extension

ryan · Post Post #288 (isolation #107) » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:00 pm

Unvote

JEEZ man! I'm not sure if that was the smartest thing to do (how about putting up a decent argument against somebody else?) Anyway, I'll go back to my original scum candidate

Vote: FeRnAnDo

ryan · Post Post #289 (isolation #108) » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:02 pm

Tar: With you not voting right now I'll ask, who are your top suspects at the moment?

ryan · Post Post #291 (isolation #109) » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:07 pm

Tarhalindur wrote:
ryan wrote:
Unvote

JEEZ man! I'm not sure if that was the smartest thing to do (how about putting up a decent argument against somebody else?) Anyway, I'll go back to my original scum candidate

Vote: FeRnAnDo
If he was your original scum candidate, then why were you voting for me instead of him in the first place?

Unvote, Vote: ryan

Because I felt the evidence was better on you, but with a claim like the one you made and me not wanting to lynch a doc I went back to my first candidate. There are multiple scum you realize?

ryan · Post Post #293 (isolation #110) » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:55 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Unvote, vote Spectrumvoid

I really don't like how she 180 degree'd with no explanation. I think she's our best bet.

And Aimee?

ryan · Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:12 pm

FeRnAnDo wrote:Ryan wrote:
You're right it was a misunderstanding, I was saying you were ducking a vote and mistyped and said you were ducking a post.
You mistyped in FOUR different posts? 110, 117, 121 and 126?

that's really odd, please explain us that rationally... don't blame alcohol or something else.

Obviously if I didn't get the point up until currently I would have kept using the same early post that I was wrong with. Now we have alot of new information, are we going to continue to live in the past or move forward? I made a mistake reading your post (obviously) and I used the same reasoning up until I figured out my mistake.

ryan · Post Post #305 (isolation #112) » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:18 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:I am certain both Tar and Fernando are town.

Evidence of this?

ryan · Post Post #307 (isolation #113) » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:31 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:They have played pro-town so far.

Unvote/Vote: ABR

You haven't done anything to find scum this game ABR. You've thrown out "well he does this" theories but nothing more. You've thrown suspicion on and off of people as you see fit. Call this a pressure vote or what you will but I'd like some actual content from you instead of just accusations.

ryan · Post Post #310 (isolation #114) » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:36 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Vote ryan

Albert B. Rampage wrote:I also notice obvious OMGUS from TCS, and I expect similar OMGUS from SV and ryan.

And I JUST said that I was voting you because you aren't giving content, it wasn't a OMGUS vote it was one to get you to actually post some thoughts in a game where I think you are coasting along not doing anything. By the way you have now put a townie at -1

ryan · Post Post #312 (isolation #115) » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:38 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:
ryan wrote:By the way you have now put a townie at -1
Double-standard, because as have you. OMGUSser.

AND I've actually done something in this game to find scum, what have you done?

ryan · Post Post #314 (isolation #116) » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:42 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:You haven't found shit LOL.

Found a scum hiding under the radar, you!

ryan · Post Post #316 (isolation #117) » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:44 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Let me ask you a question..how old are you, ryan ? Your profile is clearly lying.

Once again, non scum hunting. Do you actually read the games you are in or just throw your opinions on people and make them agree?

ryan · Post Post #319 (isolation #118) » Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:51 am

My play is NOT helping the mafia one bit. You vote me, you lose a townie, plain and simple.

ryan · Post Post #320 (isolation #119) » Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:54 am

BTW: That is me claiming I'm Vanilla Town (if that hasn't been obvious)

ryan · Post Post #322 (isolation #120) » Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:59 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:^

scummy as hell.

How is me claiming scummy?

ryan · Post Post #324 (isolation #121) » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:52 am

I sure don't believe you to be a townie nor do I believe ABR to be a townie so YES I do care about being lynched Day 1. Gaining information by lynching a townie who's claimed? How silly is that? You are the only one who said I'm a scummy townie, so that's your decision, I'm saying this to the rest of the town, Tar and ABR are as scummy as you can get. Tar's reasoning in this above post are enough to put a HUGE FoS on him and ABR hasn't done anything but one line attempts all game (look back) So drop the hammer than Tar and quit acting like a townie who cares. Your thought process is pathetic to say the least. Losing a townie to find info, in a game of 7???? Seriously think about what you just typed. It's not like this game has 15 players in it.

ryan · Post Post #327 (isolation #122) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:02 am

Thanks for weighing in Mr. Wagon Pusher, nicely done. No new evidence to give just pick apart a few posts and "he's gotta be scum" What have you done in this game Fernando? You've been on a hunt for me since I pointed out why you might be scum earlier in the game and you haven't given up since, you my friend will have alot of questions to answer when I come up town and you were leading a lynch on me the entire Day 1.

FeRnAnDo wrote:Even if you don't agree that ryan is scum, you must agree that lynching him now is solid.

That might be the dumbest comment I've ever read on mafiascum. If people don't think I'm scum WHY lynch me? Are you even trying in this game or just coasting? Where will you go when I come up town? Who'll be your crusade on Day 2? What townie will you help get lynched in Day 2?

ryan · Post Post #328 (isolation #123) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:46 am

Spec? TCS?

ryan · Post Post #331 (isolation #124) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:05 am

Aimee wrote:Hmmm... the ryan wagon is very interesting. When I get back from France I`m going to take a closer look at him, since I have
had a feeling for a long time that he is although active, not really scum-hunting.

I`d need to re-read though - what`s clear is that others are far more guilty than ryan. Mainly ABR and SV.

My scum-list:

ABR
SV
ryan
TCS
Fernando
Tarhalindur

Well I've stated cases on my two likely scum Tar (for his "even if you are town you shouldn't care if you are dying" statement, ABR for his lack of anything in this game but one line posts and Fernando (for pushing a bandwagon on me the entire game with no concrete evidence) Any of these three would be fine by me in a lynch today. TCS is an interesting idea on your scum list but I still get a town vibe from him, why do you feel he is guilty?

ryan · Post Post #332 (isolation #125) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:05 am

Edit: On my three likely scum.

ryan · Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:25 pm

Welcome to d3sisted.

ryan · Post Post #343 (isolation #127) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:02 pm

d3sisted wrote:Bah, I should've done a wiki on 'C9' before I posted. My mistake.

At any rate it was stupid of me to think we would start Day 1 in LyLo.

Hey at least you're on the right page now

ryan · Post Post #345 (isolation #128) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:08 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm just going to be happy if he hammers one of us.

Happy Birthday ABR

ryan · Post Post #347 (isolation #129) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:28 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Hey, thanks man.

You are welcome, even if you are trying to lynch me (and I'm town)

ryan · Post Post #350 (isolation #130) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:33 pm

d3sisted: What would have you done if you knew you were town and somebody elses bandwagon was one vote less than yours? I'm a townie and figured the only way to stay alive and prove it was to jump on the player I thought did enough scummy things to be lynched.

ryan · Post Post #351 (isolation #131) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:33 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Bah,
unvote
. I played terribly enough to be lynched today.

Hold on a second, is that you admitting to being scum?

ryan · Post Post #353 (isolation #132) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:37 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:No, but my lack of contribution is likely to get me lynched tomorrow if i survive anyway.

I've played in what? 3 or 4 games with you and you've never admitted defeat, is it possible you were a townie who didn't pay attention to this game?

ryan · Post Post #355 (isolation #133) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:41 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Yeah, that's my problem. I don't commit. Y'know, I just saw Aimee was in the game and said what the hell, I'll join this one.

So what about FeRnAnDo? I voted you because I wanted to put the ball in Spec's court so see if she thought you were scum. If you are town I sure don't want to see you get lynched and replacing is going to be darn hard this close to deadline. So what do we think of FeRnAnDo for a lynch? (saying you aren't scum)

ryan · Post Post #356 (isolation #134) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:42 pm

If you are town, d3sisted is town (well are ya?) and I know I'm town we could take out a scum between the three of us at deadline and give us a great chance to win this game.

ryan · Post Post #357 (isolation #135) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:43 pm

Plus we know Tar is town. That would give us scum of Fernando, Aimee and TCS (unless one of you is lying)

ryan · Post Post #359 (isolation #136) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:50 pm

Than let's vote her out. If you are claiming vanilla (are you?) And I'm vanilla. d3sisted, are you willing to take out Aimee?

ryan · Post Post #362 (isolation #137) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:59 pm

LOL. Hey the way I look at it, if we have three townies on (that would take into effect d3sisted being town) than we should be able to find some scum. I'm ready to take a chance that my theory is correct. (If Tar's doc claim is legit and nobody else stepped forward to say it wasn't)

Unvote/Vote: Aimee

ryan · Post Post #365 (isolation #138) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:02 pm

d3sisted wrote:
Albert B. Rampage, 349 wrote:Bah, unvote. I played terribly enough to be lynched today.
Ugh, that didn't help with my decision one bit. Now I
really
don't know who to vote.

@ryan: I guess I can understand that desperation vote, but I don't know. I'm still not very convinced. I'm also surprised you'd let Tar off the hook so easily. I guess I forgot to mention this in the last post, but when I first saw his claim, my intuition told me he was trying to lure the real doc into a counterclaim.

I'm not really sure I like your most recent suggestion at all, ryan. Right now, I'm absolutely certain one of you is scum. Although I do find Aimee third scummiest, she isn't in the focal point right now. Plus, we're gonna have to face this problem again eventually.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if ryan and Albert are a scum team and are playing us like a violin. Shit, all of a sudden that doesn't sound so far fetched anymore...

Listen, it's real simple

I'm town
Tar has claimed doc (nobody stepped up and counterclaimed)
ABR has basically claimed vanilla
You, well you could be scum I suppose

There are 7 people in this game and frankly, I don't see what will hurt. The cop can investigate me at night (if you are all still skeptical) and if Tar survives we know he lied. We could have this game won if we lynch correctly

ryan · Post Post #366 (isolation #139) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:03 pm

Hold on a second. Who is the best lynch? Aimee or Fernando?

ryan · Post Post #372 (isolation #140) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:08 pm

The Central Scrutinizer (my prediction is cop)
ryan (I've claimed vanilla forever now)
Tarhalindur (claimed doc)
FeRnAnDo (scum)
d3sisted (townie?)
Aimee (scum)
Albert B. Rampage (townie?)

So as I said, we lynch Aimee or Fernando. The cop investigates the other. We lose the doc and than we lynch whoever we didn't lynch earlier in Day 2 and win.

ryan · Post Post #373 (isolation #141) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:10 pm

d3sisted: Unless you are a smart scum why wouldn't you have hammered one of us right away when you saw us at -1?

ryan · Post Post #376 (isolation #142) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:11 pm

Unvote/Vote: Fernando

.

He's been trying to pick me apart the entire game and make out to scum. I say we take out the trash fellas.

ryan · Post Post #381 (isolation #143) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:18 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:this is such a silly game, seriously...lol I'm going to get a scolding from Aimee.....

Ah hell, I'm gonna get lynched anyway if I'm wrong and led the bandwagon but.........FRICK IT, it's just a game anyway right? Boy I hope Aimee is the other scum, TCS is cop and Tar really IS the doc. LOL! People are gonna crap when they read the fun we had tonight. LOL!!!!

ryan · Post Post #383 (isolation #144) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:22 pm

ABR: As much as this is gonna sound like a OMGUS, I am 110% vanilla in this game. Hell I was pissed when I got the role, I was kinda hoping to be a cop in this setup or something fun (even a doc) but oh well. Are you really town here? My secret, to stay aggressive without causing too much confusion in the games I'm in. I try and find somebody I feel scummy and build a solid case before I vote. Plus for some damn reason I'm ALWAYS given a townie role, tee hee.

d3sisted are you really town?

ryan · Post Post #388 (isolation #145) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:29 pm

ABR: You are making me a little nervous, so I'll ask again, ARE you town?

ryan · Post Post #394 (isolation #146) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:33 pm

GUYS. Hold on a second. You two haven't really "claimed" are you both town?

ryan · Post Post #399 (isolation #147) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:35 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:
d3sisted wrote:I spent several days gathering that dirt on Miztef (if it's indeed the same game you're talking about). I was so damn sure it was him.
Goddamnit, should've killed ryan. Totally played us.

Yo, I might be a doctor a cop or a townie, how is that for you ?

You both still make me nervous but I will agree d3sisted, if you were scum you should have hammered me rather quickly, yet didn't. ABR you always make me think you're scum (LOL) but I like the ABR who's stoned/drunk, he's a fun guy.

ryan · Post Post #400 (isolation #148) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:37 pm

BTW, people are gonna crap when they open this thread tomorrow or whenever and see the nonsense we've spewed the last few pages. Hell we're all lynched if we miss Fernando as a scum

ryan · Post Post #402 (isolation #149) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:38 pm

I mean it's down to

TCS
Fernando
Aimee

as scum. 2 of those are scum (unless Tar lied) Shit now I'm getting cold feet.

ryan · Post Post #404 (isolation #150) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:39 pm

ABR: If you are doc you need to claim, just so my theory doesn't get screwed up

ryan · Post Post #406 (isolation #151) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:40 pm

ryan wrote:The Central Scrutinizer (my prediction is cop)
ryan (I've claimed vanilla forever now)
Tarhalindur (claimed doc)
FeRnAnDo (scum)
d3sisted (townie?)
Aimee (scum)
Albert B. Rampage (townie?)

So as I said, we lynch Aimee or Fernando. The cop investigates the other. We lose the doc and than we lynch whoever we didn't lynch earlier in Day 2 and win.

This was the theory I was talking about

ryan · Post Post #407 (isolation #152) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:40 pm

d3sisted wrote:If ABR claims doc, then Tar is gone.

EXACTLY my point

ryan · Post Post #412 (isolation #153) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:41 pm

The Central Scrutinizer (my prediction is cop)
ryan (I've claimed vanilla forever now)
Tarhalindur (claimed doc)
FeRnAnDo (scum)
d3sisted (townie)
Aimee (scum)
Albert B. Rampage (townie)

Does this seem right to you two??

ryan · Post Post #413 (isolation #154) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:41 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:BTW ryan how old are you ?

29

ryan · Post Post #420 (isolation #155) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:48 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Oh shit, we forgot about the cop. Is it 100% sure there's a cop, or is there a 50% chance ?

100% sure (says on Page 1 somebody got the role)

ryan · Post Post #423 (isolation #156) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:49 pm

Here's the deal. It's between Aimee, Fernando and TCS who the cop is, the other two should be scum (unless somebody has lied)

ryan · Post Post #429 (isolation #157) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:56 pm

GUYS seriously I am NOT scum, for real. I'm 100% honest on this, come on now

ryan · Post Post #431 (isolation #158) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:57 pm

IF Tar is 100% Doc, than TCS and Aimee are the scum!

ryan · Post Post #433 (isolation #159) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:57 pm

Unvote/Vote: TCS

ryan · Post Post #434 (isolation #160) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:58 pm

d3sisted wrote:
Unvote

What the hell is going on here?
Tarhalindur are you SURE you're doc? Ryan and Albert are you SURE you're townie?

I guarantee on my life I'm town

ryan · Post Post #437 (isolation #161) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:58 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Are you ready to vote TCS then, ryan ?

Unvote, vote TCS

Already did buddy. ^^^^ Look up

ryan · Post Post #438 (isolation #162) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:02 pm

d3sisted wrote:Oh and I'm unfamiliar with the term breadcrumb, can somone explain?

If you are a power-role you usually use some sort of proof so if necessary you can go back and prove you are who you say you are

ryan · Post Post #441 (isolation #163) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:03 pm

Hold the phone for a second. Are we all comfortable with a Aimee/TCS scumpair?

ryan · Post Post #446 (isolation #164) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:06 pm

d3sisted wrote:i'm not really getting this breadcrumb concept

OK. Follow me here.

I'm a cop but I don't want to claim. We get to Day 5 and I get suspicion thrown on me by the mafia and say there are enough townies left that I can claim. So I say. "Well I'm townie and look back at these posts to see my proof" than peeps look back, see the info and we get the scum. It's pretty easy concept

ryan · Post Post #448 (isolation #165) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:07 pm

Tar: I am NOT scum, but if you are telling the truth, than Aimee/TCS are our confirmed scum (IF Fernando didn't lie)

ryan · Post Post #450 (isolation #166) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:09 pm

The Central Scrutinizer (scum)
ryan (townie)
Tarhalindur (claimed doc)
FeRnAnDo (breadcrumbed cop)
d3sisted (townie)
Aimee (scum)
Albert B. Rampage (townie)

THERE is an updated list. (If everyone is telling the truth)

ryan · Post Post #451 (isolation #167) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:09 pm

d3sisted wrote:No, but scum can plant the same seeds and later point to it, pretending to be townie

Than the real townie comes out and the scum is lynched.

ryan · Post Post #453 (isolation #168) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:11 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Aimee is so going to kick my ass when she reads this mess.

I'd worry about Cephrir more than Aimee, and this is the second time you've said she'd be mad, why are you so worried about her?

ryan · Post Post #455 (isolation #169) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:12 pm

See, even when he's a townie he looks scummy.

ryan · Post Post #458 (isolation #170) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:14 pm

Where the hell did Tar go?

ryan · Post Post #460 (isolation #171) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:16 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:He was here and then he was gone.

Well he's still signed in

ryan · Post Post #462 (isolation #172) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:17 pm

d3sisted wrote:Btw, one more question about the breadcrumbing thing, what if scum notice it first and NK? Doesn't the plan completely backfire?

IF the scum notice first, yes it would backfire. What are ya getting at?

ryan · Post Post #466 (isolation #173) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:21 pm

As a great actor once said

"I love it when a plan comes together"

We should have this game won in Day 2, gotta love it!

ryan · Post Post #468 (isolation #174) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:22 pm

(Raises my Bud Light to the computer)

Here's to ABR and d3sisted and having fun finding scum the past 5 pages. Drink up fellas!

ryan · Post Post #475 (isolation #175) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:26 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Hey Ryan, what the hell did you pm Adel in Friends & Enemies ? Now that I've lost that game, I really wonder.

Shit it was a huge mistake. I had a few non game issues to talk about and didn't think it was a big deal but she completely went off the hook and than started kinda freaking out on me. I will admit I mentioned one or two things in a PM about the game but than I dropped it and moved on and than WHAMO I'm mod killed for doing it, live and learn.

ryan · Post Post #478 (isolation #176) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:28 pm

d3sisted wrote:If you haven't noticed, this isn't the most opportune time to mention actors, ryan.

Sorry, Hannibal Smith was just on TV and his old A-Team phrase hit home with me.

ryan · Post Post #480 (isolation #177) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:30 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Yeah man, you live you learn. I was modkilled once. Twice actually, if you count the game where we were both modkilled together

Adel said something to the effect of "you really would want to know what he said". Do you even still have that old pm ?

That was damn funny when I quoted my PM before my lynch, lol, made me laugh my ass off. I don't have the old PM but to be honest, it was never anything major in the message, oh well, I know what she plays like as scum now, and any game I'm in I look for those tendencies to come out again.

ryan · Post Post #482 (isolation #178) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:33 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Actually I'm with her in a few games right now, what can you tell me about her tells ?

When she was scum in the game with me she is VERY much into numbers and how many it takes to lynch somebody and still win and putting somebody at this number and blah blah blah. She uses numbers to really screw people up when it comes to the game and thus looks pro town. Um............are we gonna get in trouble for talking about her in here?

ryan · Post Post #484 (isolation #179) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:34 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Hey d3sisted, get this. Me and Ryan were both mafia once, and then I stupidly went after Ryan, and he went back after me, and in the end, we were both modkilled. Now that's a fucking bonding experience, dontcha think ?

Damn you tried to distance too hard and caught me during a bad couple days at work and I was like "WTF, this idiot, we are scum together and he's doing this to me!!!" Man I was hot.

ryan · Post Post #487 (isolation #180) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:39 pm

I know I could get into trouble for this BUT since the game is over I will give you the URL to Kingdom of Heart's so you ALL can enjoy the huge destruction of the mafia

viewtopic.php?t=5546&start=1075

ryan · Post Post #488 (isolation #181) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:39 pm

d3sisted wrote:Wait, distancing is distancing, but why were you modkilled in the first place?

He was close to a lynch so he quoted his PM and I ended up doing the same thing when I was close to my lynch. 8)

ryan · Post Post #492 (isolation #182) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:42 pm

DAMN IT, Tar signed off for the night, that idiot.

ryan · Post Post #496 (isolation #183) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:44 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:
ryan wrote:DAMN IT, Tar signed off for the night, that idiot.
So what, player with most votes dies at deadline.

Let me go look for a latest vote count

ryan · Post Post #499 (isolation #184) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:46 pm

ryan 2 (FeRnAnDo, Tarhalindur)
ABR 2 (TCS, Aimee)
TCS 3 (Ryan, ABR, d3sisted)

That should be correct. BUT if the scum (TCS and Aimee) jump off and onto me than you two need to remember the theory I've had and stick to it. Actually one of you will need to cause the other will probably be nightkilled (unless they go after Fernando)

ryan · Post Post #500 (isolation #185) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:51 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Anyway yeah, I'm going to be a manager...what about you, Ryan ?

I know that during the night you're SuperRyan and go around catching mafia goons, but what do you do during the day ?

LOL, I'm actually the sports director/sales for a radio station. I do high school/college play by play for sports

ryan · Post Post #505 (isolation #186) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:59 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:LOL your job > my future job. How did you launch yourself in something like that, anyway ? Don't tell me, you were a football player in high school ?

Believe it or not I started as a board op at 15 (running commercials during games) I went to school for broadcasting and never took a class for PBP, I just got a chance to do some reports from games, thrown into a play by play chance, I loved it and have done it ever since. Radio=working your way up the ladder and paying your dues (like any other job)

ryan · Post Post #507 (isolation #187) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:00 pm

d3sisted wrote:Let's just hope mod doesn't kill us for filling harsh 6 pages in one night.

Hey we were "discussing the game" that counts right?

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Hey, how many of you guys are willing to bet that Aimee, upon coming back, will say:"I am NOT going to read through all that crap these three have posted."

Guaranteed that happens.

ryan · Post Post #509 (isolation #188) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:01 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:
ryan wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:LOL your job > my future job. How did you launch yourself in something like that, anyway ? Don't tell me, you were a football player in high school ?
Believe it or not I started as a board op at 15 (running commercials during games) I went to school for broadcasting and never took a class for PBP, I just got a chance to do some reports from games, thrown into a play by play chance, I loved it and have done it ever since. Radio=working your way up the ladder and paying your dues (like any other job)
No wonder you're good at mafia.

I suppose that's possible.

ryan · Post Post #511 (isolation #189) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:04 pm

d3sisted wrote:A lot of players on MS would do swimmingly as lawyers.

Yeah but alot would also get innocent men sent to the gas chamber.

ryan · Post Post #513 (isolation #190) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:05 pm

I can't wait till somebody tries to use this game to metagame me, It'll probably be down the road sometime and when they bring it up I'm gonna laugh my ass off.

ryan · Post Post #516 (isolation #191) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:09 pm

At least we've posted reasons to lynch Aimee and TCS, I mean the evidence is just flowing, granted it took us like 7 pages but still....................

ryan · Post Post #518 (isolation #192) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:11 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:What evidence ? lmao.

I posted somewhere the claims of everyone, that's good evidence.............right?

ryan · Post Post #521 (isolation #193) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:15 pm

Well if we messed up and TCS is town than we know we have liars on mafiascum and for the love of god that can't be true can it?

Ah hell, if TCS/Aimee is town I'll lynch my own damn self.

ryan · Post Post #525 (isolation #194) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:18 pm

d3sisted wrote:Look at a broader chart, I think the plunge already started happening when you, me, and ryan joined.

This might be my new sig

ryan · Post Post #526 (isolation #195) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:18 pm

Page 22. Here's the analysis

The Central Scrutinizer (scum)
ryan (townie)
Tarhalindur (claimed doc)
FeRnAnDo (breadcrumbed cop)
d3sisted (townie)
Aimee (scum)
Albert B. Rampage (townie)

ryan · Post Post #530 (isolation #196) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:22 pm

Figured I should have some sort of evidence. I had an updated vote count, but I have NO clue what page I left it on...........damn beer anyway!

ryan · Post Post #531 (isolation #197) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:25 pm

ryan 2 (FeRnAnDo, Tarhalindur)
ABR 2 (TCS, Aimee)
TCS 3 (Ryan, ABR, d3sisted)

It was back on page 20 or something like that. We could get screwed if TCS and Aimee hop on me or you ABR. BUT TCS would have gotten to 3 votes first so he'd be lynched.

ryan · Post Post #535 (isolation #198) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:28 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:
ryan wrote:ryan 2 (FeRnAnDo, Tarhalindur)
ABR 2 (TCS, Aimee)
TCS 3 (Ryan, ABR, d3sisted)

It was back on page 20 or something like that. We could get screwed if TCS and Aimee hop on me or you ABR. BUT TCS would have gotten to 3 votes first so he'd be lynched.
They can't hop on me, they're already on me lol.

Oh shit, my bad dude. I meant if they jumped on me, or if one did but as long as TCS doesn't get unvoted, he's cooked.

ryan · Post Post #537 (isolation #199) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:29 pm

WOW, ladies and gentleman it's Tar. What up Tar? We've already done the scum hunting buddy, we have em cooked, unless you lied about your role we'll have this puppy won in Day 2.