Mini 462: Just another game of Mafia... over

[Elias_the_thief]

vote: falcone

, for being number one on the list.

[Elias_the_thief]

I've got suspicions on 3 players; names I will not say for the moment unless they start acting abit more town.

I seriously dont like withheld info. If you have suspicions, tell us so that we can discuss and start hunting for scum.

[Elias_the_thief]

I'm confused. You were suspicious of one person, so you exaggerated to three to get responses? I think just withholding 1 name got a good number of responses...

Also, I'm not sure whether handbanana was very worried either. I second the request for elaboration.

[Elias_the_thief]

unvote

I have to agree with alsleet here. Those last two fos's you threw out were pretty odd in my opinion. The first is based on your perception of Nekkas playstyle, which could in fact be wrong. Its also based on what your perception of what an aggressive player would do, which I dont agree with. Anyways, if someone brings up old discussion to distract from current discussion, it actually would prick my scumdar. Though simply telling someone to stop isnt the same choice of words I wouldve used, I think the general point was not to go back to old stuff when there is plenty of new stuff.

And the second fos is like. really wierd. first, because tar actually did say something like that, and second, because the fact that someones opinions dont mirror your own is no reason for an fos.

Also, to take things back a ways, why are fosing people who are lurkerhunting? First, they werent really lurkerhunting, just asking for prods. if they had been voting lurkers, then it would be lurkerhunting. second, lurkerhunting is really only suspicious if its all they do. As long as they are participating in the game, why does it matter to you if they request a prod?

It seems to me youre just throwing random suspicions out there for no reason at all except to confuse us. It's not much, but its good enough for a

vote: panzerjager

at this point.

[Elias_the_thief]

I feel his claim for agressive play was just a blanket incase he wanted to band-wagon...

Bandwagoning is not a scumtell. Intent to quicklynch is a scumtell. There is a difference. Bandwagons are good because they create discussion, as well as create records of peoples interactions with eachother.

On another note,

mod, can we find a replacement for N9V?

He replaced at the beginning but he hasnt posted once since the games beginning.

[Elias_the_thief]

apologies, he posted once.

[Elias_the_thief]

Falcone, I said that it was weak. Theres not much to go on at this point, I thought it was worthy of a vote. Also, why do you think the points that panzer made are correct? He's basing his foses on his own perceptions, and how he would play. Obviously not everyone plays in the same way. All he has accomplished is to spread confusion.

Panzer, your comment made me realize something. There were two people who lurker hunted, as opposed to just asking for prods. One was an fos (from Nekka, I think), the other was a vote. This made me raise my eyebrows.

For not having posted yet

Unvote, vote: ac1983fan

This came a good while into the game, past where you would expect joke votes (it was like his 6th post or something). So I interpret this as a serious vote.

good point with the fos: lurker hunting. Scum tend not to be absolute lurkers.

So, he essentially fossed himself. Huh?

Fos: khelvaster.

[Elias_the_thief]

Since he had already done a joke vote, and had had several posts already, I doubt it was a joke vote. Middle of page two is fairly late for a joke vot in my opinion. It doesnt really matter that much to me. His motivation for the vote was obviously ac's absense, so it was an instance of lurker hunting. He then fosses lurkerhunters, and lurker hunters essentially consist of him (and nekka, but nekka only fossed).

[Elias_the_thief]

I have to agree there, the fact that he didnt want to look like a lurker does not make him suspicious.

[Elias_the_thief]

I second the Roland prod. Also

On another note,

mod, can we find a replacement for N9V?

He replaced at the beginning but he

only

posted once since the games beginning.

fixed, he posted once, and i previously said he hadnt. But seriously, i think a replacement is in order.

[Elias_the_thief]

Did you know 83% of statistics are made up?

Like that one?
But seriously, how does one assign percentages? Also, why has Khel dropped so much?

[Elias_the_thief]

need to reread. more later.

[Elias_the_thief]

Um, why has no one suggested just to handbanana the possibility of not killing tonight? Theres no need to be forcing claims, when you could easily out a power role. Imagine if it were the doc, they couldnt protect themselves. Also, if a doc happened to notice these implications, you say you would vig anyone who didnt claim? it seems like a surefire way to take down the town.

Also, there is obviously the possibility that handbanana is actually a serial killer. However, I definately disagree with lynching our claimed vig. He just can not go through with this plan.

[Elias_the_thief]

I did read the game. I mustve missed when someone did. But how come it is not being considered the most prominent option?

[Elias_the_thief]

er, at least until recently is what i meant.

[Elias_the_thief]

I'm sorry for my inactivity. I guess now is a good time to tell everyone that i will have extremely limited access coming up, probably only being able to post one day a week, or something like that. Im guessing our mod will choose to replace me, and I hope that it will be temporary (i could come back later and jump back in) but I'm not sure. In conclusion, I will probably be replaced.

[Elias_the_thief]

I dont feel like waiting for N9V. I've returned, and I am his mason partner. My PM says nothing about his innocence/guilt however.

[Elias_the_thief]

kill n9v?
no, i'm planning to kill elias.

Are you kidding me? If I were scum why would I openly out myself, with all the discussion of scum/town pairings and scum/scum pairings, why would I do that? If me and N9V were a scumpair it would be completely stupid for me to claim. I cant speak for N9V, but I'm protown.

[Elias_the_thief]

1. then i doubt your decision making ability and wish you were not a vig.
2. I mean scum pretending to be a mason pair. Obviously theres no point in calling two mafioso masons. And if you havent noticed N9V has been lurking most of the game. There was no guarantee he would show up anytime soon. I took the initiative because im protown.
3. um, how do you know that N9V isnt scum? So far he's random voted, counterclaimed a mason claim, and fosed based on this. What exactly makes him seem protown to you as opposed to me?

[Elias_the_thief]

So, youre basing the fact that N9V is town on YOUR interpretation of his FOS as a serious threat to lynch, something he didnt specify. Not to mention that your argument is completely WIFOM in the first place. How can you even consider killing either of us tonight, with so little info?

Also, how can you be sure that none of the mason pairs are genuine? maybe ours is. man, I really hate when power is handed to someone who will use it to hurt the town.

[Elias_the_thief]

Hand Banana: That possibility is still valid. You do not have enough info to kill someone right now. The proper protown play is to sit on your kill for now.

[Elias_the_thief]

yeah, i said earlier that my pm confirmed nothing in terms of innocence. It only says that N9V is my fellow mason. (well technically it says belgarion, but N9 is his replacement).

[Elias_the_thief]

2 things. I told you so, and go town.