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vote: Jay and Silent Bob
vote: Beavis and Butthead
vote: Wal-Mart
vote:carrotcake
cause I don't like carrot cake
(insert mandatory OMGUS vote here, with an explanation why my name sucks so much. MAKE ME LAUGH!)ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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ThAdmiral wrote:It depends on what time zone your in.
There is only one right time zone
THE CENTRAL TIME ZONE
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Whoa. By the looks of our current voting I have a few things I'm not liking so much.
1. the no lynch votes.
2. the almost circular voting pattern.
(There are 8 current voting options right now) Eww.
Unvote
Vote: Tromboner.
Vote to springboard some discussion hopefully.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Wouldn't mind hearing more from:
fak(random vote only)
DanMonkey(random vote+QFT)
dylan41985(random vote)
tromboner(no lynch vote)
All with confirmation posts.
Tromboner why the vote for a no-lynch?ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Heads up for everyone here, I know i've posted this in the Vacation thread already, but from June 20th-26th(ish) I will be on vacation.
95% I should have Internet access, just letting you know in case for some reason that doesn't happen =/
Don't need a replacement.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Kate wrote:
Or theywere just last by chance. In my old game I was last to confirm, but I was the cop.Carrotcake wrote:
.Adel wrote:J-man & molestargazer were the last to confirm, which to me means that they are the most likely to have been engaging in PMs before game start
Thats a bit unfair to people with odd time zones.
That's true also.
Just because somebody isn't on 24/7 and confirms last really doesn't mean alot.
RL takes over sometimes.
I don't take alot of stock in the last few to confirm, unless of course you want to mention it jokingly in connection to a random vote.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Mastermind of Sin wrote:
You'll be gone because you're coming to MoS-Faire?pickemgenius wrote:Heads up for everyone here, I know i've posted this in the Vacation thread already, but from June 20th-26th(ish) I will be on vacation.
95% I should have Internet access, just letting you know in case for some reason that doesn't happen =/
Don't need a replacement.
lol, I wish. That'd be nice.
I actually have family out in Colorado, and i'm going to a few Rockies vs. Yankees games while i'm there, so that's swell.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Adel wrote:<- Colorado native. They do have internets there, I promise.
How far are you willing to take the tromboner bandwagon? Are there more open seats? Does it have a/c and a good stereo? Leather seats and minibar?
<- Colorado born, Nebraska raised.
1. The tromboner wagon?
Umm, i'd actually, basically like to see him post something, that'd be a good start on what vibes i'm getting, or not getting, shit i'm not sure yet, I just don't like the no lynch vote. *shrug*
2. A/C- yes
Good Radio- i'd say pretty decent
Leather Seats- no
Minibar- umm, how's a cooler work filled with assorted beverages, and whatnot?
Room Hmmm.
Van(8 people)- Family(4 people)- room taken up by luggage and whatnot(2 people+back)= theoretically two spots open.
Yeah, not sure what hotel i'm going to be at (weird right, why the hell do you stay at a hotel when visiting family?)
Oh well, I say the 5% no internet because i'm not sure what hotel we're staying at, at that time.
Now i'm at 99.99% Internet (barring I forget to bring a laptop) I should be good.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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I like my vote on tromboner right now.
If that answers your question in a nut shell, he needs to say something.
I don't like lynch the lurkers, as much as i'd rather have pressure applied to the point where they start to give us information, so that we can find connections for the later days. That's just my opinion.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Adel wrote:
So that would be "almost-lynch the lurkers". And if they just don't cooperate, what then? "We might lynch the lurkers"?pickemgenius wrote:I don't like lynch the lurkers, as much as i'd rather have pressure applied to the point where they start to give us information, so that we can find connections for the later days. That's just my opinion.
If they don't post, then hopefully they'll get replaced, and then the replacement will be capable of posting quality content
Lynching lurkers only *can* work, if the lurker has been participating(then falls off the face of the earth without warning and/or is posting in other games) enough to where, you have more then just lurking accredited to the lynch.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Heh, there are a few ways to look at lurking.
I just don't want it to be a problem. That's the main thing.
Activeness pwns.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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EBWOP:
I still say you need more then just lurking to lynch somebody.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Quoted for yes-ness. ( I like this one better+ QFY, way better then QFT)Adel wrote:I feel empathy for your loss.
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Whoa whoa whoa.
You're right in the fact that J-man has been somewhat vocal about your lynch.
Thats a fair point.
A bandwagon doesn't start out of thin air.
If people agree with you, then they might vote for him.
J-man, in lieu of Tromboner's posting, what's your opinion about Lynch all Lurkers now?
Tromboner- your vote on mole is why?ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Carrotcake wrote:J-Man seems to want to kill so badly, he wants it more than information. Lurking and NoLynch are mistakes, but he should not be killed quickly for it. Especially because the game is still young.
Or I could be wrong, im new too.
CC eyes J-man suspiciously
I think you're pretty spot-on.
That's just me though.
And I don't think it's a want to kill so badly, as much as J-man wants the game to progress exponentially faster then it should.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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I'm getting weird vibes from dylan. Anybody else? Maybe it's just me?
No posts in four days, then casually dropping a vote on a growing bandwagon.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Kate wrote:So J-man now has 5 votes, with seven to lynch...great idea town! put him in a position where mafia can easily kill him!
While however unsmart itmaybe for J-man to be at L-2 relatively early, it's not a bad thing really, it's building pressure and is giving him a chance to defend himself, so we can have a logical decision on wheter or not he is or is not scum.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Kate wrote:
So how will you know whether he's town or not? If he is town, he'll most likely defend himself or say, "Hey, kill me if you want but I hope you all die!", if he's mafia, he'll probably do the same, unless he decides to fake claim as cop or doc, but if hepickemgenius wrote:While however unsmart it may be for J-man to be at L-2 relatively early, it's not a bad thing really, it's building pressure and is giving him a chance to defend himself, so we can have a logical decision on wheter or not he is or is not scum.werethe cop or doc, he would still claim.
We see how he reacts to X(5) amount of votes being placed on him.
Yeah if he defends himself, we can tell if it is good or not, and make more progress from there.
I don't know/see many townies offering themselves to be killed, it's not really smart, but that's just me.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Oooh questions! YAY!!!
Alrighty:
Do I believe his claim?: it was pretty ambiguous.
Do I find it ironic that he suddenly doesn't want a quick lynch?: heh, a newer player under pressure, it's weird, but I don't find it totally strange since we change our minds constantly in this game anyway.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Nope, and Nope.Tromboner wrote:Can the mod say all the jobs handed out or is there a place i can go to see them?ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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I think MOS is getting too much crap. I think claiming at L-2 isn't ideal (i'd rather wait for someone to be at L-1) but if you *do* have somebody that claims cop for example, firstly the town doesn't waste a lynch on a probable power, secondly the scum are in a really undesireable position for the night kill, because unless there is a claimed doc(which umm would be NK'ed anyway) then the mafia have NO way of knowing if there is a doc, and if there is who they will protect.
I think it's just the playstyle of MOS to ask for claims.
I want to hear from MOS also on this.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Some people just have different playstyles, some like claiming, some dont'. I don't think that makes somebody scummy though.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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I'm not sure if he is a power role or not.ThAdmiral wrote: It seems as if he's trying to hint he's a power role without coming out and saying it. This to me means he's either scum not wanting to outright claim for fear of a counter claim, or an actual power role who feels he will be targeted tonight.
I'm leaning towards the first one. He should see by now that if he is a power role he should just claim.
I'm still totally ambiguous on his I could fake a doc/cop claim but i'm vanilla. I don't want to claim until i'm at L-1.
He's basically confusing the shit out of me. Sorry, but it's true.
I could see him as scum not wanting to claim power role in fear of getting counter claimed, and thus getting found out.
It is possible he is just straight vanilla aswell.
I'm pretty shocked he's at L-1 right now so basically I just want to hear from him now. To set things straight.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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My vibe-o-meter™ just went from wishy washy to more likely scum. I'm not really happy with his last few posts.
I felt that you only answered latter two.Adel wrote:why are you not scum? What have you done that is pro-town? Who is a better candidate for scum than you? What have they done that is anti-town?
Town membersto defend themselvesNEEDalways.
The afformentioned scummy vibes i've recently got is that in my first game ever (Newbie 334) one of the scum didn't post a defense for himself, and only listed a suspicion list. So it'salmostlike deja-vu, with a different person.
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Heh. I didn't really see it as much of a defense.Mastermind of Sin wrote:unvote
J-man is not scum. Do not lynch him.
vote: pickemgenius
I have a really bad gut feeling about him, especially after his last post. I just get the feeling that he's scum trying to push through the lynch on J-man, while telling him what a protown player should do, so as seeming to educate him for the good of the town. Also, I don't feel that J-man hasn't defended himself. He *did* post a defense, but it was a defense that struck me as the sort newbie town would make, being overwhelmed by the pressure he's under.
pickem's last sentence again sounds like a scum ploy, in that scum often tell the town to not be hasty, as a way of trying to seem protown. You rarely see protown players put that much emphasis in such a statement.
Die suck scum die?
I can understand why you have a queasy gut feeling about my last post.
I just really didn't feel there was any case against J-man that warrented a lynch, and I really wanted him to defend himself more so then he has. The reason I told him what a protown player should do is because I felt he was protown. He then said he was going to hammer himself if he was at L-1 in 24 hours, which threw me off, and I was hoping that he wouldn't follow through with it.
My last sentence was added and emphasized becuse we've had a few players not post here in awhile and might not be up to date and probably aren't aware of the situation
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Mastermind of Sin wrote:Wait, if there wasn't a case worth lynching J-man over, why did you say he needed to defend himself? If there is not a case, there is nothing worth defending against. In addition, you said youfound him scummy because he didn't defend against a case for lynching him that you claim didn't exist.
I said that the case didn't exist? I'm pretty sure this is what you are talking about, and if we're reading the same thing, NOWHERE does it say that a case didn't exist, just no case that warrented a lynch.myself wrote:I just really didn't feel there was any case against J-man that warrented a lynch
There still is a case against him though, so he still needs to defend himself. Just because in my opinion it doesn't warrent a lynch, doesn't mean that he doesn't need to defend himself.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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+ tack this on.
6 people obviously felt there was a case enough for a lynch.
I never saw the case, but 6 others did so it was there. So it was infact there. His almost failure to defend himself it why I started to get a scummy vibe.
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Mastermind of Sin wrote:
Like I said earlier, he's already defended himself against what case there was. Therefore, if you say he hasn't defended himself, you must be referring to another case that none of us know about, which would've been enough to lynch him, combined with other actions. But you said there wasn't enough of a case to lynch him.
I still am not quite sure
qualifies much for a defense. Still.J-man wrote:well i can see that you guys are quite intent on killing me and ive spent a hour and a bit reading the posts over and trying to figure out a airtight argument that i could use in my defence, mabye its because of inexpierence that i cant find one but in any case im pretty sure that my defence is already statedand if there is another out there that thinks i am mafia... well then i cant do a whole lot to stop you.the defence behind the hinting about a power role is this, i was hoping that you guys would move on with out moving to the point that if i was i would have to claim.
That's my basic case against him. It for sure isn't hidden.myself wrote:The afformentioned scummy vibes i've recently got is that in my first game ever (Newbie 334) one of the scum didn't post a defense for himself, and only listed a suspicion list. So it'salmostlike deja-vu, with a different person.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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My example may be crap, that's why I haven't placed an FOS, IGMEOY, or VOTE on J-man this whole time.Adel wrote:
pickemgenius: How scummy or innocent do you currently consider J-man to be? What relationships do you see between J-man and other players, both positive and negative? What do you make of Kate at this point?
J-man, I could see as newbie scum, or newbie town who is used to super fast games. His ambiguity I do not like so much though.
J-man has been attacking MOS more recently, while early on pushing for a Tromboner lynch. Everyone else he seems to be ok with.
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Mastermind of Sin wrote:Adel, him not voting merely makes it look like he was trying to pile suspicion on J-man, who had a bandwagon going. That's a classic scum strategy, pushing the bandwagon without being on it. Then, he can go back later and say "hey, I wasn't on the bandwagon, don't blame me!" This makes me more sure that J-man is town.
Me not hammering makes me scum?
What if I would have hammered, and what if he did come up town?ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Mastermind of Sin wrote: However, you post a weak case that says to newbie town "I didn't think J-man was worth lynching based on what he did before, but now I think he is."
Show me somewhere, where I said he was worth lynching now.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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EBWOP: I said he was more likely scum. Never did I say I wanted to lynch him.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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unvote:
vote: dylan 41985
Dude, you have to do more then pop by every few days and vote.
Mod:How are the prods going/ will we need any replacements?ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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.Mastermind of Sin wrote:Now you're playing semantics, pickem. It's not what you actually say, it's what you imply by your actions. You did notsaythat you wanted J-man lynched, but your actions implied that you supported such an action.
I told him he should defend himself better if he were town (which I thought he was), because I thought his defense/lack of basically was weird.
Please again tell me where I imply I want J-man to be lynched.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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I guess I just feel not posting for a few days, then dropping a vote only, escpecially one on you; when you hadn't even posted between his unvote, and revote of you, is a little more then weird.J-man wrote:i REALLY REALLY want to vote pickem but instead i willFOMajorS:pickem
you can't just jump on a forming bandwagon (clearly jumping on as it forms since you posted twice after Dylan but before your vote) and it clear that you had read up to that point atleast because you responded to MoS... your definatly pouring out scummy vibes over here.
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I post twice in response to MOS, so of course there is no mention of dylan.J-man wrote:@kate about pickem voting its not that he voted its WHEN he voted look at the stuff right before his vote, what is it? well he posts twice and doesn't mention anything about Dylan if im not wrong... he only votes after two other people have voted this makes me think at first thought that Dylam and pickem are mafia and pickem see's that dylan is going to take some major flack for lurking this long, and since the bandwagon is starting pickem will jump on early to distance himself from his mafia partner, and why i don't vote? well im quite certian that MoS deserves it more at this point and im just waiting for him to screw up but he already knew that, although as i just mentioned this past this Dylan, pickem pair is looking quite plausible to me.
Actually if you would look, only one new person voted for dylan.
Adel already had her vote on dylan before hand.
ThAdmiral was the only new person to vote for dylan.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Mastermind of Sin wrote: Now you see why I think he's scum? He was caught in a serious slipup, and he's doing everything he can to feign ignorance of what he's done, instead of trying to actually explain his actions.
I got a few questions still.
1. what serious slip up?
2. how am I trying to feign ignorance from what i've done?
3. Please again tell me where I imply/say I want J-man to be lynched.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Let me understand something.
mos wrote:you found him scummy because he didn't defend against a case for lynching him that you claim didn't exist.
me wrote:just really didn't feel there was any case against J-man that warrented a lynchme wrote:I said that the case didn't exist? I'm pretty sure this is what you are talking about, and if we're reading the same thing, NOWHERE does it say thatcase didn't exist,ajust no case that warrented a lynch.
There still iscase against him though, so he still needs to defend himself. Just becausea, doesn't mean that he doesn't need to defend himself.in my opinion it doesn't warrent a lynch
umm.
If he has 6 votes, there is obviously some case out there which 6 people felt he should be lynched.
I just wasn't buying it.
me wrote:
3. Please again tell me where I imply/say I want J-man to be lynched.mos wrote:There: (as if it wasn't fucking obvious, were you not feigning complete ignorance, since this is the post that caused me to vote you in the first place)
me wrote:My vibe-o-meter™ just went from wishy washy to more likely scum. I'm not really happy with his last few posts.
Adel wrote: why are you not scum? What have you done that is pro-town? Who is a better candidate for scum than you? What have they done that is anti-town?
I felt that you only answered latter two.
Town members NEED to defend themselves always.
The afformentioned scummy vibes i've recently got is that in my first game ever (Newbie 334) one of the scum didn't post a defense for himself, and only listed a suspicion list. So it's almost like deja-vu, with a different person.
I do agree that we need everyone to comment on J-man, so that we don't come to a hasty conclusion.
I don't mention lynching J-man once in that, the word lynch isn't in it.
Telling him what he should do if he is protown is implying I want him to be lynched?
Saying that I found it weird that he really didn't defend/said he would hammer himself implies I want him to be lynched?
Me not FOS'ing, IGMEOY, or voting him, for a shit example I gave (and I knew it was shit, that why I didn't vote him) implies I want him to be lynched?ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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So your whole thing is that you wanted me to hammer J-man basically?Mastermind of Sin wrote:The problem is, if you are inferring that someone should hammer, why not do it yourself? That's the sort of thing that only benefits scum. If a protown player wants someone else to do something, it better be something they're willing to do themselves. Only scum try to coerce people into doing their job for them.
Why should I hammer someone who Ijuststarted getting scummy vibes from?
If a protown player wants to do something, they better makedamnsure it's not done hastily.
If a protown player wants to hammer someone, they better make sure they don't cut they day short before hearing from everybody.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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This is a good time to note(again) I will be on vacation from June 20th-25th(ish).
I should have IE, but not a lot of time to post and whatnot, if I check in briefly and see something happening, I might post something really quick. I expect to be back late the 25th, so I should have time to do a full analysis when I get back.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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oh yeah, and
UNVOTE
Don't want to be tied down to a vote I might not be able to change.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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I still <3 N-N's posting/posting style, he already knows this though.
Mole puts dylan at L-2 (not L-1) soon after I unvote, which is thoroughly understandable, wants a claim.
Curious puts dylan at L-1, says he is voting dylan
- only thing I don't like so much is his reason(other peoples reasons) for voting, but I understand he was a replacement so it's kind of hard to make new/fresh observations when you weren't following the game.ckd wrote: For reasons that everyone has already stated
dylan already accepts he is going to be lynched, says Adel,Kate, Mole are scum.
-blah
Adel likes
unvotes dylan.Adel wrote:the new way to defend yourself is to not defend yourself. Huh. I think I like it
- I don't like this logic/thought process so much.
dylan immediately says Adel is town after Adel unvotes him.Then votes MOS
-awkward.
Adel tells him to save some breath and start explaining himself.
- word
N-N wants to know dylans reasoning for vote on MOS.
- don't we all?
HJ doesn't like attacking people instead of defending yourself.
- ok
Num unvotes dylan.
dylan-
- scummier then you are?!?!?!dylan wrote: They're brainwashing you to make me seem scummier than I am!
Num player analysis.
- short but sweet.
Adel good charts.
CKD- says doesn't think replacements are scum.
-craplogic at best.
Kate posts a defense to CKD/num
everyone loves Adel's graphics.
CKD goes after Kate in post 314.
Num semi-goes after Kate in post 317.
Kate defense in 318.
WIFOM explained.
Adel doesn't like dylans
statement, feels ok with letting dylan off the hook.dylan wrote:I'm not sure exactly how much I'll be able to post. Don't vote me out while I'm gone! haha
-not sure why you're ok with letting dylan off the hook....
CKD doesn't think we should let dylan off the hook yet.
ThAdmiral says dylan is best play for today, says J-man defense
- I completely agree, we're getting nowhere with letting people get off the hook so easily just because they post a really poor defense.ThAdmiral wrote:of the disillusionment of a newbie-town. Dylan, however has flatly refused to defend himself, and then goes on to say: "oh I'm off, so you can't really lynch me" in a rather smug way.
MOS says N-N argument was good, and he had a valid theory, uses WIFOM to explain, but blatantly states it is in fact WIFOM.
N-N unvotes MOS, says one reason/example isn't enough for a lynch, wants a bit more explanation.
Kate doesn't like how easily we seem to be letting dylan/J-man of the hook.
HJ votes dylan, doesn't like lurking is ok I do it all the time defense used by dylan.
CKD/Kate spiel posts 342-345
Kate's post 347 is iffy.
CKD post 348 goes after Kate, again.
Adel votes CKD to stir the pot, and to show she is still there.
HJ says Kate wasn't defending J-man, says we should lynch most scummy it shouldn't matter what they claim. J-man is still suspicious, doesn't like CKD attack on Kate.
- we should lynch the most scummy player, I totally agree, unless the most scummy player claimes a power-role, in which case you let them live atleast through day 1 to see if they are lying or not.
CKD tells HJ that Kate is defending J-man.
N-N tells CKD his entire line of thinking relies on the assumption that J-Man is scum, if J-Man is scum it might logically follow that Kate is scum for defending him. Asks CKD why he isn't voting J-man.
--Only thing I don't like is the if J-man is scum we lynch Kate the next day part of that post.
Kate posts defense, again.
CKD concedes to N-N, says he has been pretty unhelpful since replacing in.
- bullcrap you made basically everyone re-examine Kate's posts, and were being active, and brought about lots of discussion, which is generally pretty good play from a new player especially.
MOS wants to know why J-man is voting him.
J-man umm doesn't have a case against MOS, waiting for one to appear.
-ewww
Adel puts what she thinks CKD actually meant in his last post.
The - are me talking.
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dylan by a mile, him saying lurking is ok because I do it all the time, him not posting a defense, his votes with little/no reasoning behind them, his general anti-town behavior makes this an easy choice.Adel wrote:
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CKD- I totally feel that he has been very vocal, and he is trying to help the town progress which I like about him, he isn't afraid to go for it, when he feels like he has something.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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CKD's vote is on J-man, not dylan.Per wrote:Vote Count (#12)
dylan41985: 6 (ThAdmiral, Kate, molestargazer, HungryJoe, J-man, curiouskarmadog)
curiouskarmadog: 2 (Numeronean7, Adel)
Mastermind of Sin: 1 (dylan41985)
pickemgenius: 1 (Mastermind of Sin)
Not voting: 2 (pickemgenius, NabakovNabakov)
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Yes, I know. But Day 1 has been going on for quite some time now, and no really big new issues have come forward in the past days. I will probably be aiming for the 4th of July for the deadline. No reason to panic yet.J-man wrote:Oh and Deadlines are bad Per were arn't ready to make a lynch yet not enought info out there yet give us a a couple more days or a week, before you announce deadline plz :'( deadlines tend to cause townies to get lynched.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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dylan41985 wrote:I'm not back yet, but I got the chance to post. Once I'm dead and you all discover that I'm innocent...please lynch Kate, molestargazer, and MasterMind of Sin.
Thanks, I really appreciate it. Although I doubt you'll do it since you aren't listening now.
Alrighty, umm reasons maybe? I'll atleast give you till you get back(July 1st) until I vote for you, because I seriously hope you have more to say then that.
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dylan41985 wrote:Kate, I don't feel like defending myself because it's just no use. Stop asking me to explain myself! I have nothing else to say. You all think I'm scum because it's the easy way out. And because I was lurking?
GOOD BYE KATE.
it looks like you won this battle...although I really do want to stay in the game.
*sigh*
dylan your anti-town behavior throughout the entire game is frustrating.
Vote: dylan41985 HE IS AT L-1 NOW, PROCEED WITH CAUTION.
Here is his post breakdown:
Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:42 pm
-random vote, okdylan41985 wrote:Vote: carrotcake[/b]
Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:02 pm
- holy shit, provided a little bit of reasoning behind his vote, could/should have cut out that maybe so he can kill me part.dylan41985 wrote:unvote: carrotcake
vote: J-manfor seeming over-zealous to get to night time (maybe so he can kill me?)
Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:43 pm
-WIFOM, EWW.dylan41985 wrote:joining a bandwagon vote may seem suspicious, but it's too obvious! I'm not that dumb.
Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:56 pm
-....dylan41985 wrote:unvote
Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:37 pm
- no reasoning given what so ever, J-man didn't even post between his unvote, and revote.dylan41985 wrote:vote J-managain
Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:42 am
-.....dylan41985 wrote:Mod:does J-man have 2 or 3 votes?
Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:07 pm
- .....dylan41985 wrote:yeah what is up with me, Kate? I'm not your prey.
Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:22 am
- attempt to look like he is contributing.dylan41985 wrote:it is kind of suspicious that Mastermind of Sin confidently states that "J-man is not scum." Are they working together?
Mastermind - can you explain why he isn't scum?
Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:06 am
- newbie card played.dylan41985 wrote:Adel, I don't know what I just said that made you vote for me. you know this is one of my first games
Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:37 pm
- no reasoning given to why we should suspect Adel, Kate, and mole, no defense posted.dylan41985 wrote:I've already accepted that I'm going to be lynched. I'm innocent though.
Do me a favor and kill off Adel, Kate, molestargazer. They're scum.
Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:39 pm
- Umm, MOS wasn't even on the list you made 2 minutes prior to posting this, again no reasoning given for the vote.dylan41985 wrote:unvote: J-man
Vote: Mastermind of Sin
not that it matters.
I think Mastermind is more scummy than Kate[/b]
Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:32 pm
- Adel promptly tells him to be quiet, and post something.dylan41985 wrote:wow Adel! maybe you do have some townie goodness in your heart!
Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:37 pmdylan41985 wrote:You know, I would almost rather be lynched and watch all the mafia who voted for me squirm and the townspeople feel guilty as you find out that I'm innocent. However, my life is more important to me.
Everyone says I'm a horrible player and they hate the way I play. Ok, that's fine. That makes sense. I like to lurk and watch your posts.
But you're all suspicious of me because I haven't said much and only wrote ten words when I did speak. That isn't fine. I don't think you can justify any type of theory that lurking makes me scummy. Lurking is one of my favorite pastimes and if you want to hate on me for that, then that's not very nice.
You all say "EXPLAIN YOURSELF, DYLAN. WE WANT TO HEAR YOUR EVIDENCE."
I say...No. All I have to explain is that I didn't have much to say. And I want to hear YOUR evidence. Real evidence against me. Ironically, the only people who know that I am innocent are the mafia, because they know I'm not on their side. And they are the people putting ideas in your brains. They're brainwashing you to make me seem scummier than I am!
I really feel like many of the attacks on me are crazy.
For example... molestargazer says "Appealing to emotion. Just because you're a new player doesn't mean you're not scum" and then goes on to say "I really don't like the way you're playing. You seem panicky under pressure, and that's understandable - but I want to get some firm evidence and something solid to discuss."
This is such a flimsy argument!
Please let me know what else makes me sound scummy and I'll tell you my reasoning.
- lurking =/= ok, that whole post is just icky.
Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:11 pm
-.....dylan41985 wrote:omg i love your visuals, Adel!
Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:45 pm
- Don't vote me out while i'm gone, just is unneccessary, and weird, and a town member shouldn't need to say that.dylan41985 wrote:Hey all: I'm actually in the same boat as NabakovNabakov, except I'm not sure exactly how much I'll be able to post. Don't vote me out while I'm gone! haha
Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:06 pm
- we are listening dylan, you just haven't given us anything to listen to. Again no reasoning for who he suspects.dylan41985 wrote:I'm not back yet, but I got the chance to post. Once I'm dead and you all discover that I'm innocent...please lynch Kate, molestargazer, and MasterMind of Sin.
Thanks, I really appreciate it. Although I doubt you'll do it since you aren't listening now.
Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:54 pm
- You say we aren't listening to you, then you say you don't have to explain yourself. Umm seriously. It isn't only because you are lurking why we are voting for you, it is your general anti-town behavior.dylan41985 wrote:Kate, I don't feel like defending myself because it's just no use. Stop asking me to explain myself! I have nothing else to say. You all think I'm scum because it's the easy way out. And because I was lurking?
GOOD BYE KATE.
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- I think he still needs to explain them.MOS wrote:...dylan, at least try to explain the inconsistencies they pointed out. They are glaringly obvious.
- I don't think we can ignore anybody. Ever.MOS wrote: we can just ignore him for now, and he'll be lynched/vigged/nightkilled eventually
-How does attacking you make them protown, and if dylan has all these inconsistencies that you talk of what pro town things has he done in your opinion.MOS wrote:That being said, I do not want either J-man or Dylan to be lynched. They are protown, and I'm highly amused that both of them have attacked me repeatedly this game, but that just contributes to my feeling that they are protown at this point
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- Alright, No Lynch=Bad for town nuff said.Tromboner wrote:Vote: no lynch
We have no info to go on
- As i've said before, not voting somebody simply because they don't have a bandwagon already going strikes me as weird.Tromboner wrote:My people have brought up the fact that i did vote no lynch. My reasoning behind this vote was to see who would be the most eager to jump on someone else's' back and direct attention away from themselves. I have have found the person that i was looking for.
Unvote.
FoS: J-man
Vote: J-man
However since J-man has no bandwagon forming that could overtake my rather large bandwagon and not getting killed is my strategy.
Unvote
Vote: Molestargazer
-Nobody wants to be killed, says he voted mole so it would be less likely he would be lynched. Wants to get a bandwagon going.Tromboner wrote:In response to J-man, My strategy has Changed because I am up to be killed, i would personally like to play for a while and not be killed at the start.
I re-voted for mole because he was the only other person to be getting votes; the only other person that could over take my rising lynch votes.
However i still think that J-man is in the mafia. His bit about wanting to be killed was very inviting. So ill try to get his bandwagon going.
Unvote
Vote: J-man
- Newbie scum rolefishing?Tromboner wrote:
No i think that he is the cop/doc but doesn't want to revel that to the mafia who he really is.Adel wrote:Question for entire town: J-man claimed vanilla, do you believe him?
- Not sure about the intention of this post.Tromboner wrote:Can the mod say all the jobs handed out or is there a place i can go to see them?
- Uses everybody elses reasons, but somewhat justified by being a replacement.curiouskarmadog wrote:Christ, that was 12 pages of a big pile of confusing. OK first lets
unvote: J-man.
Even though the “lets-get-a-quick-lynch-and-see-what-happens,-wait-I-didnt-mean-me” maneuver was idiotic, admitting he thought about false claiming idea was sad, and I will just take my ball and go home (i.e. I will kill myself) was just plain immature…..
..actually I just talked myself back intoFoS-ing: J-man. I think he has got some power. Town or mafia power I just don’t know yet.
From page one however, I have thought dylan41985 was quite scummy. For reasons that everyone has already stated. So..
vote dylan41985
I know that puts him close to lynching and that looks scummy (for me), but if I am right and he is scum, then we benefit.
- I see something I don't like so much in this post (see underlined) it's like he's setting himself up so whenever he has some pressure on him, he can "hope" people vote for him, and can reference back to this, saying that he trusted dylan when he said that, and claim to have no power.curiouskarmadog wrote:Let me address I couple different items here…first:
Actually since I have been here (to replace Tromboner) I only unvoted J-Man and voted Dylan. I never placed a vote on J-man (that was done by Tromboner before I got here). But I understand your mistake, I had to come in reading 12 pages of thread too.Numenorean7 wrote:
curiouskarmadog=Tromboner
Again, a lurking player recently replaced. Tromboner was acting really weird: voting no-lynch, voting molestargazer just because of the bandwagon, then disappearing. curiouskarmadog hasn't posted much, and didn't say much. Voting J-man because he "has some power"?? Unvoting and then jumping on a bandwagon? Don't like this player much at all.
I didn’t so much jump on a bandwagon as much as I thought Dylan was guilty. Why did/do I think Dylan is scummy? (to answer Adel’s question too) More of the same everyone else has said. He usually pops in only to cast a vote. Lurks. Then when the heat is on makes a very poor defense. Just looks scummy.
BUT, then I started thinking. Went to bed last night (after I read Adel’s unvote) and thought about it. (considering I am relatively new, is it bad to think about this game while trying to sleep?)Once I got up and saw that he “hopes” we vote for him I decided he is probably telling the truth (about hoping we vote for him). I think he is not so much lurking, but not interested in the game because he does not have any power. He is probably young and wants to be a in a game where he can do something, and if he does not have power, he is bored with it. Which probably explains why so many replacements were needed for this game. I think Dylan is immature and does want to see us lynch him so he can say I “told you so” So…
Unvote Dylan41985
Numenorean7, enjoyed reading your brief analysis (even though it does target me). I hope it is not some grand mafia trick to divert our eyes from you. But you are a replacement like me, so I doubt you are mafia. At any rate, your post made me go back and look at everyone…Kate is setting off my scum vibe so I thought it was funny that she did yours as well (underneath my apparent scumminess, of course) I do not like when people use older games as defenses, she IS unpleasant, and she defends one of the town’s scummiest looking (J-Man). But doesn’t have a problem putting away Dylan…Is there a Kate + J-Man connection? Numenorean7, you have indirectly made me look at J-man again…at any rate, I think it would be worth a Kate vote…to see her reaction.
Vote: Kate
Also keeping an eye on the MoS and Pick contest….guess we will have to wait till Pick gets back for that to continue.
And Adel, liked the graphic, have no freaking clue what I am looking at, but a appreciate the effort.
-Don't like the replacements =/= scum logic.
Attack on Kate for "defending" J-man.
- Is quite confident about replacements =/= scum, and a Kate-J-man pair.curiouskarmadog wrote:
Yeah sure no problem. Keep in mind this is only my theory. I think for the most part replacements are vanilla townies. I think if some research was done on replaced people it would be discovered that 99.99% of them were townies. Here is why. People on this board play multiple games at once. It can get every confusing. What would you rather spend your time with? A game where you had no power, or a game that you had the power (like mafia)? Granted there are exceptions: vacations, illness, etc etc, but for the most part, those “characters” needing replacements would rather play other games and are not very interested in games that they have no power, that is why they “lurk” or quit all together. So in general (again there are always exceptions) I don’t look to the replaced characters first.Adel wrote:
This is the only line that stands out to me. I didn't believe that for a second. It is a horrible reason for thinking that someone isn't scummy. Care to explain?curiouskarmadog in post 309 wrote:But you are a replacement like me, so I doubt you are mafia.
I am not so sure weAdel wrote:
Starting a wagon on Kate doesn't appeal to me after J-man and dylan41985, I think it could just be another wagon on a weaker player.shouldlet J-man off the rope. In my opinion Kate and J-man are together.
More of him getting on Kate for "defending" J-man.
More of him getting on Kate for her claimed playstyle.
- No bandwagon was forming on Kate, so after N-N asks why he isn't voting J-man then, he promptly votes him. (trying to get another BW started, after his last one failed????)curiouskarmadog wrote:
ugh, I guess you have a point...I hate backing down though. Think you sold me with the "building castles in the air" comment. You appealed to the poetic side of me....at any rate, you are right or at least you make sense...soNabakovNabakov wrote:CKD, your entire line of thinking relies on the assumption that J-Man is scum, if J-Man is scum itmightlogically follow that Kate is scum for defending him. However, why aren't you voting J-Man? It doesn't make any sense to vote the connection but not the source. If J-man is lynched (looking increasingly unlikely, dude has no votes) and comes up scum, then we can lynch Kate, but for now you're just building castles in the air. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for the time being, but don't press it.
Unvote Kate, Vote J-man
FoS: Kate, though
which means at the point as a replacement (or a player in this game) I have been pretty useless considering the first thing I did after replacing the player was unvote J-man...sorry town.
curiouskarmadog wrote:
yeah I did...just my personal theory and experience. Granted I am new, but I would put good money on that most replacements (i.e. higher than normal game percentages) are townie. I know, this is bad logic. But until I see something that proves me wrong, I will stick to it.Mastermind of Sin wrote:Wait...did ckdactuallysay that replacements are less likely to be mafia? Umm, that is so wrong on so many levels, and it stinks of scum just trying to clear themselves by saying all the other replacements are less likely to be scum.FoS: CKD
but I understand your FoS on me.
- MOS "sets him straight" on the replacement =/= scum issue.curiouskarmadog wrote:Mastermind of Sin wrote:Wait, you know it's bad logic, but you'll stick with it? That makes no sense whatsoever. All it takes is a quick look through past games to realize that you are wrong. I can't count the number of times I have replaced into a game as scum. Off the top of my head, there was Dichotomafia and one of the DP games (11, I think). I haven't done any replacing in over a year, for the most part, so it's hard to recall the various games.
well you have that experience to go on. I am a betting man, and have noted how many people bow out of games (that I have then replaced) and were town, yet they are strong posters on other threads….that I am sure they found more interesting because they probably had power in other games. So far in my career with this game (this site and others), every time I have been a replacement, I have been a townie.
...at any rate, it was just a theory...I have not read too many threads that I am not in...can you direct me to one that had such a scenario?
At this point in the game, replacements are not on my radar. This game is up to 3 now right? I think there are far more scummier people in this thread.
- Still writes off all replacements.
His post 13 is completely irrelevant, and doesn't need to be be quoted (check if you want)
-FTR, I didn't want anybody to incidentally drop the hammer.curiouskarmadog wrote:
Well, with Pick moving his vote to dylan we are indeed one away. Not sure why he is telling us to proceed with caution, when Pick a.) thinks Dylan is scum and b.) Proceeds to go post by post why Dylan is scummy. If he is scum don’t you want to vote him?Per wrote:Vote Count (#12)
dylan41985: 5 (ThAdmiral, Kate, molestargazer, HungryJoe, J-man)
curiouskarmadog: 2 (Numeronean7, Adel)
Mastermind of Sin: 1 (dylan41985)
pickemgenius: 1 (Mastermind of Sin)
J-man: 1 (curiouskarmadog)
Not voting: 2 (pickemgenius, NabakovNabakov)
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
I agree with the first part of this statement. However, even if he is the town idiot, he is still the town, which helps our odds. I am adamant about who I think are the scum, and Dylan just does not fit into my suspicions. Unless someone sees a Dylan-J-man-Kate connection. (how many mafia are the suppose to be in this game, sorry I can find that post, I think it is 3-4?) I do not have enough information to vote for him, much less cast that last vote to hang him. The only information I can deduce from hanging him (provided that heHungryJoe wrote: You're horrible scum if you're scum, and you're a worse townie if innocent! I've reached the stage where even if youdocome up innocent, I won't regret it because at this stage, you're practically scum even as a townie! You draw suspicion away from them entirely, and because of it, they can slide by with a smug grin and without a care, because you are practically lynchig yourself FOR THEM!the town idiot) is to check who pushed to vote him and who actually voted (which would indeed help my J-man/Kate theory)…but I cant vote someone I think is an idiot town to help that theory…is
I think he does not care if he stays in this game or not. I think given his apparent immaturity that if he had any power (town or mafia) he would at least try a little harder.
So I will take Pick's reccomendation and show caution.
- Says unless there is a Dylan,J-man,Kate connecttion he doesn't see dylan as scum.
- Finally realizes that replacements can be scum.curiouskarmadog wrote:oh yeah, and MoS...think my theory about replacements (higher than normal % are town) are about to be shattered..in another game that a replacement is coming in for a character I am certian is scummy...however, the roles are not known yet soo...who knows.
-The town is full of scummy people, of which he mentions 2 people (Kate,J-man) basically the whole time to this point.curiouskarmadog wrote:
I disagree with your disagreement on many levels. Are you saying that you do not have enough will power to be able to over look the town idiot? There is more than 1 mafia out there. Are you suggesting, with Dylan around, you simply lack the capacity to look for other scum? With Dylan here (assuming he is the town idiot) he gives the town another person the mafia will have to get rid of (thus improving our odds). I find it interesting that you want to argue improving the town’s odd against the mafia. OR are you wanting to do the mafia’s work for them?molestargazer wrote:
I disagree.curiouskarmadog wrote:However, even if he is the town idiot, he is still the town, which helps our odds.
With the way he's playing, he's just drawing logical attention to himself, and taking attention away from the scum who can just sit back.
At any rate I am definitelyFoSing molestargazer….if this lynch goes down (and it probably will) it will be interesting to see who really pushed this hasty lynch (during the reread)…
this town is full of scummy people (see my previous posts) J-man is as guilty (in many regards) as Dylan...yet he is under the radar right now...I wonder why that is?
-Nobody should ever just be overlooked.
More of him going after Mole.
- I can understand both Num's and CKD thoughts on this.curiouskarmadog wrote:
Being “adamant” or “insistent” is completely different than thinking anything is a sure thing. Now, what “strikes me” as interesting is the fact that you are setting me up for a Day 2 suspicion now aren’t you?Numenorean7 wrote: You are "adamant about who I think are the scum"? I assume you mean Kate and J-man. Surely there's not enough evidence for to be adamant yet? I'm no fan of Kate or J-man, but I think being adamant about anything on Day 1 is risky at best. The only people who can be sure of anything yet are the Mafia....
Lets say the “Dylan lynching” goes down and he is innocent…”Hmmm, is Num right? Is Curious trying to say I told you” if he is guilty “Hmm, Curious really did not want that lynch”. Sort of a lose-lose situation for me you are painting there aren’t you? If Dylan is innocent, I want to explore who really pushed this lynch…but you would rather focus who opposed it? Interesting. I think you are stretching. In your eyes right now, you think I am scum, so anything I might do will be scummy…but that is a stretch.Numenorean7 wrote: He's pretty sure that there will be a dylan lynch, and he wants to be able to say, "I told you so" on Day 2. I know this is completely insubstantial, not evidence at all. But it just strikes me that way.
-Doesn't like Adel's vote on him.curiouskarmadog wrote:
And why is J-man not a candidate? Because he has said actually Jack lately...seems like a smart move. Basically this posts says, J-man and Pick could be candidates, but I would rather keep my vote on Curious...ahh, logicAdel wrote:
QFTMastermind of Sin wrote:What information do we gain from lynching dylan today? We have nothing to go on from his lynch, so we just revert to everyone else we were attacking today. He is most likely not scum, and his lynch will not accomplish anything. I'd rather just request that he be replaced, because he obviously is not playing the game, nor does he have any wish to play. Even if we can't replace him, though, we can just ignore him for now, and he'll be lynched/vigged/nightkilled eventually.
J-man is still a candidate, but not much of one. It is interesting the pickemgenius just used similar warning against a dylan lynch that he did against a J-man lynch, which made MOS so suspicious of him in the first place. My vote remains on curiouskarmadog.
-Continues with going after J-man.
- It's true he is like this in every one of his other games, and he hasn't come up scum in any of them (yet, Hence my unvote.)curiouskarmadog wrote:
He does this every game? Then it is his poor place style. Just because you are tired of it, in no means we should lynch the VI. Again, I think he is town...I DO NOT WANT TO LYNCH TOWN...and I am considered with why everybody who does. Dylan is not "distracting" us..we are. Lets move on. J-man actions are not pro-twon....MoS please show me a post where J-man has been pro-town. Lynching someone who is just a poor player and is probably town will only put the odds in the mafia's favor.J-man wrote:in actuallity i just dont want to play with Dylan i have had him with me in too many games and he does the same things so yes i am sick of it, it allways ends up in a town lynch anyway because no1 wants to go to lylo with Dylan (would you?) kill me if you will but from now on i will not rest until Dylan dies, or i will ask to be replaced, i will not play with som1 who will not play the game.
Can't show MOS anywhere where dylan has been protown.
His post 22 is a quick EBWOP
-Thinks J-man has "cracked"curiouskarmadog wrote:
Well Christ. Now what? SO you want to be replaced because you can not stand Dylan? Didnt you see Dylan in the lineup when you confirmed? Will have to reread but was there much interaction between Dylan and J-man…and why didnt J-man say in his public post that he only wanted to be replaced if Dylan wasn’t? Who knows…J-man wrote:Mod- I would like to be replaced
Personally I think he cracked. Maybe he has some RL stuff going on, might investigate to see if you are active in other games.
In the same dictionary.com siteNumenorean7 wrote: Day 2 suspicion? What about Day 1 suspicion?
We seem to be using different definitions of adamant:
adamant - utterly unyielding in attitude or opinion in spite of all appeals, urgings, etc
Adamant - determined or insistentYour original post you were referencing Day 2 I addressed that. We am aware of your suspicion for Day 1.
(laugh) it certianly does not help my theory that there are a higher than normal ratio of townie versus mafia in replacements, does it? Well, J-man has not been replaced yet.Numenorean7 wrote:
Well, perhaps a replacement will be helpful. I wonder what curious will think of this: the new guy can't be Mafia since he was a replacement.
and one other thing I keep meaning to get back to...
What? What I am being dismissive about? I did not particularly like your mistruth either, please show us where I asked (or even implied) I wanted Kate to claim? I think claiming on the most part is silly Day 1..maybe you should spend less time making silly charts no one can read and means little, to actually reading the posts. Matter of fact, other than regurgitating what other people have said and misquoting people, what have you really added to the discussion?Adel wrote:Why are you being so dismissive curiouskarmadog? The logic is there, just in previous posts. You are correct though, in addition to yourself and dylan, J-man and pickem are the other probable scum candidates.. mostly because your ruse to build a bandwagon on Kate in order to force her to claim failed. You will not fool the rest of the town for long.FoS Adel
-Starts to semi-go after Adel.
-Definition of words, replacement talk.
- I would say for the most part you have been going after some of the "weaker" players, I really don't think anything you did regarding Num,Mole,Adel qualifies as *much* of an attack, in relation to how you have been going after Kate,J-man.curiouskarmadog wrote:Thanks for breaking down my posts…all you really have shown, is that I believe Kate and J-man are guilty and I am looking for their 3rd. You have also demonstrated how I have been trying to get the group to questions others as not to lynch the VI.
how am I hypocrite? I am actually doing something for the town.Adel wrote:
you pressured kate, hard and relentlessly, clearly attempting to establish a bandwagon based on nothing more than her defending J-man. Once your bandwagon clearly was unable to move, you poke around a little, accuse several players while revealing yourself to be a hypocrite, and finally you attack me.
This whole statement is ridiculous. Quietly voiced? You are joking right? You have tried to get this bandwagon started for some time now. I am not hungry for another bandwagon, I just want to lynch scum. I am trying to discover weaker players? Really, by your own account I have “attacked” Mole, Num, and yourself? I don’t define either of the 3 as weaker players, do you? I think J-man and Kate are scum, do you think they are less scummier than Mole, Num, and yourself? Then how am I looking for weaker players? I am trying to find scum.Adel wrote:
I am starting a bandwagon on you now. I've quietly voiced my suspicions for a while now, letting you post more, watching you flail about trying to discover who is a weaker player not who is a scummier player.
You have been hungry for another bandwagon, I hope you appreciate the irony that it is on you.
Ok, again adel you have twisted my actions and thoughts somewhat. I wouldn’t say I attacked Num what as much as attacked his set up for a day 2 suspicion (either way you are scum logic). I think Numenorean7 is town, at least his reasoning seems pro-town. I also understand why Numenorean7 is helping with the start of the wagon on me, because he thinks I am scum, and he can not peg down Dylan, who he also thinks is scum…so I have no hard feelings toward you Numenorean7, do what you go to. But Adel you are wasting the town’s time, and that looks suspicious to me. Go ahead and start your bandwagon...I am interested to see who joins it.
- I just don't like the tone of this post that much.curiouskarmadog wrote:Yep, it is going to really pick up steam now. (laughing) I think this bandwagon will be ripe for the lynching so I will help everyone on the reread later. Here is the running total.
Numenorean7,
Adel
J-man who is now Crub
Need 4 more, which wont be hard because I havent made many friends here as a replacement trying to stir conversation for scum hunting. Guess I left myself open for a perfect mafia manipulated lynched. I actually think my band wagon might provide the most information yet for the town. This is where it will get interesting, me thinks.
At any rate, I will provide (again for your Adel) why I feel Crub is scum when I have more time to quote posts and go through the thread. But I doubt you really need or want it.
Why I put it together, Crub, maybe you can share why you feel, Kate is scum…
- Subtle way to divert away attention from him(possibly) by asking Crub why he feels Kate is scum.
- Tone is bad.curiouskarmadog wrote:
I think everything in that post was rushed...had to make sure you got on the band wagon vote now versus the end huh?Crub wrote:Man my post sounds rushed reading 18 pages took a lot out of me
-Umm, Kate is scum because J-man(Crub) is scum.curiouskarmadog wrote:
DUDE, you really need to go reread this thread again...your facts are VERY wrong....this only helps my case against this scum..when I get sometime this weekend...I will prove it.Crub wrote:
The only reason I think Kate is scum is because I think you are scum, and I think there is a connection between Kate and You. I'm basing this on, as I said before how Kate reacted to Tromboners, No Lynch and how you attacked her for 2 pages and then gave up your attack because kate appealed to your "poetic side"curiouskarmadog wrote: Why I put it together, Crub, maybe you can share why you feel, Kate is scum…
Personally I don't think you can tell much from a person's position in a bandwagon the whole thing seems WIFOM to me. Having said that I'm not trying to get in early, I'm trying to get in on the right target.curiouskarmadog wrote:
I think everything in that post was rushed...had to make sure you got on the band wagon vote now versus the end huh?Crub wrote:Man my post sounds rushed reading 18 pages took a lot out of me
- Him voting for you and wanting to get in on the right target helps your case against him to being scum?
-Also the weekend is now over.
curiouskarmadog wrote:
this actually wasnt pointless, he completely messed up his facts (will show you how my "why I think crub is scummy" post, which I hope I can do tomorrow.molestargazer wrote:
This just seems like a pointless attack and finger-pointing on a new replacement to me.curiouskarmadog wrote:I think everything in that post was rushed...had to make sure you got on the band wagon vote now versus the end huh?
AND for the reread that will come!
Numenorean7,
Adel
Crub
MoS
Not surprised by this vote though, MoS thinks more info will come by my hanging than Dylan's..which I tend to agree, which is why I am posting the vote count, it will be easy for the town later. My hanging will result in a lot of suspicion on Numenorean7, Adel(who really pushed for it), and the hammer. This is how I think the votes will go down from here…I will get the HungryJoe vote once he logs back in and once Admiral sees the town is in to the bandwagon he will do his trademark not much content vote…who will be the 3rd? My guess is mole or Kate (both would have reason to vote). Of course I would not be surprised if the VI did me in...that my friends WOULD be irony. That leaves NabNab and Pick. Now Pick has been in and out since MoS turned the pressure on him, and he is the only one who (as of late) hasn’t jumped on my bandwagon or FoSed me and I already have NabNab’s FoS. So it really doesn’t look good for me. I am confident Hungryjoe and Admiral votes will come shortly…so who will be the hammer?
Interesting thought to ponder, for a guy (who is on the chopping block for being mafia) I sure have a ton of people as enemies and little support.
At any rate, give me till Sunday (it will be time consuming) to get my Crub is SCUM post in…and since I cant post after I am dead, I want to get all my finger pointing in now.curiouskarmadog wrote:
then do so or just add to the conversation more. I am not afraid of this lynch. I came into this game as a replacement and not from the beginning...OF course I dont want to be lynched, but this thing will happen. I just want the town to learn something from the lynch that is all. Admiral, why weren’t you going to vote for me before? You thought I was town? Or didn’t want to be part of the wagon?ThAdmiral wrote: For your information I wasn't planning to vote for you but your smug comment "I am confident Hungryjoe and Admiral votes will come shortly" makes me want to more than ever.
I am disappointed by the NabNab vote. I am not resigning to anything. This lynch will happen because the mafia is REALLY manipulating you guys. I am typing this to help you guys later.. I am not trying to appeal to emotion from anyone. Hopefully by this lynch, you guys will figure out where to go next. Not being the VI here, NabNab…their posts where mainly, “go ahead and lynch me, you will be sorry, and this is who I think are scum”….I WANT you to lynch me…At the time Crub and Dylan lynches would not have helped you, though I feel a Crub lynch now will give us tons of info, just the bandwagon alone is given you guys much info, but without my lynch, it doesnt have much context.THIS IS NOT A DEFENSE
At any rate, will be gone for most of the day, will be back this evening, at least let me get that Crub post in.
AND for the reread that will come!
Numenorean7,
Adel
Crub
MoS
NabNab
You want a claim NabNab? Vanilla town here, but really what else would anyone say? 2 more votes..
- Those last two posts are just.... icky.
It's like not a defense, and he has atleast shown some capability to attack people, so how come he doesn't have the ability to defend himself?
The difference between him,dylan, and J-man, is that the latter two never really attacked anybody solidly, and were quick to "resign" to the fact that they were going to be lynched, where as you are fully capable and have shown to everybody that you are capable of attacking people.
BIG FOS: CKD
I want to look over few more things before I make this a vote.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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I would like to hear how you find his defense good, when he so blatantly said it was not a defense.Mastermind of Sin wrote:
<snip>*shrug* ckd made a pretty good defense, imo<snip>]ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Mastermind of Sin wrote:
Did you notice that he did much the same thing with BOTH Dylan and CKD? With CKD's wagon quickly growing, he merely placed an FoS, adding to the suspicion, encouraging others that this was a generally accepted wagon without participating himself. If anything, I'm more confident in my vote now than before.Numenorean7 wrote:MoS:
IIRC, your vote on pickem was based mainly on his suggestion that someone else vote for J-man, and his iffy defense/denial thereafter. This seems slim evidence for the kind of confidence you've been displaying.
I will find time for a re-read tonight and tomorrow. If I notice anything new, I'll be sure to mention it.
Alrighty.
With CKD I knew he was fully capable of making a defense for himself as he has attacked others pretty relentlessly throughout his time here, I wanted to give him one more chance to defend himself properly (which he did) before I would have voted for him.
With dylan, you said the inconsistancies were glaringly obvious, yet he still hasn't ever adressed them, and you're totally convinced he's town, just because his playstyle (???). Well he plays like this as both town and anti-town.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Adel wrote:Pickem's behavior with large wagons:
Adel wrote:J-man: 6 ( NabakovNabakov (fak), ThAdmiral, ckd (Tromboner), dylan41985, Mastermind of Sin, Adel)
pickem places a FoS.
I NEVER put on FOS on J-man, but thanks for lying about that.pickemgenius wrote:
My example may be crap, that's why I haven't placed an FOS, IGMEOY, or VOTE on J-man this whole time.
Yeah, I did, he was/is scummier then hell, he still hasn't responded about all the massive inconsistencies that are "glaringly obvious". He does play like this as town, or anti-town, so playstyle now becomes a null-tell.Adel wrote:dylan41985: 5 (ThAdmiral, Kate, molestargazer, HungryJoe, J-man)
pickem placed a vote putting dylan at -1.
I've already explained my FOS on him.Adel wrote:curiouskarmadog: 5 (Numeronean7, Adel, Crub, NabakovNabakov, Kate)
pickem places a FoS. dylan's vote came after pickem's FoS .
Adel wrote:hypothesis: the J-man and ckd contain two scum partnered with pickem, while the dylan wagon only contained 1.
remember, fak=NabNab, carrotcake=Hun. joe, and danmonkey=Num7, Tromboner=ckd
Adel and NabakovNabakov are the two players who were on both the J-man and ckd wagons, but neither were on the dylan wagon. Could
Adel, NabakovNabakov, and pickem be scum together with dylan, and pickem was bussing dylan with -1 vote? Not likely, IMHO, since I know I'm town, but that is the easiest way to make the facts fit my hypothesis.
Just when I was thinking that this exercise was a waste of time, I noticed the relationship between dylan and pickem.
When I have time I'll read back through looking for instances where dylan follows pickem's lead. I think there may be a connection there, and it would make sense if our VI is scum that he would follow the lead of a stronger player.
I'm quite interested what relationship you won't find between me and dylan.
Now looking at you and MOS on the other hand is a different situation, you've been lubey-dubey with each other all game, this isn't a scum tell(yet), just it might be for later on.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Open 23, just got finished, he was a werewolf.Adel wrote:
I'm not going to take you at your word on this. Exactlypickemgenius wrote: Yeah, I did, he was/is scummier then hell, he still hasn't responded about all the massive inconsistencies that are "glaringly obvious". He does play like this as town, or anti-town, so playstyle now becomes a null-tell.wherehave you seem him play like this as scum?ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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P.S you were in that game.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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HERE ARE HIS OPEN 23 POSTS.
Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:46 pm
Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:53 pmdylan41985 wrote:vote: OJ.With that name, he must be guilty!
Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:39 amdylan41985 wrote:This is turning out to be a very interesting vote! I could switch my vote to Adel, but I need some convincing.
Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:40 amdylan41985 wrote:unvote
vote: now a ranger
Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:13 pmdylan41985 wrote:sorry, but looking back at your posts I think you gave yourself away
Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:27 pmdylan41985 wrote:unvote: NAR
Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:29 amdylan41985 wrote:i might revote for NAR, but I'm still not sure
Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:16 amdylan41985 wrote:yes I lost confidence. why are you mad at me?
Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:04 amdylan41985 wrote:vote: J-man
Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:50 pmdylan41985 wrote:i'm easily convinced by other people's arguments.
Don't draw the suspicion towards me if others are also voting for the same person. They;re just as guilty of voting so don't make me feel so guilty.dylan41985 wrote:beanbagboy has been flying under the radar a little too much for me... I'd like to hear more from him, because right now he looks like scum.
DAY 2
Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:42 pm
Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:59 pmdylan41985 wrote:I could have guessed that Adel would be killed next by the evils of the town, but wow - he had no chance.
I'm going to be gone all of next week and I don't know how much I'll be able to post.
I'm highly suspicious of Sir Tornado and Stewie though...
Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:44 pmdylan41985 wrote:Hey all,
I'm going tovote: Stewie
more explanations to come next week
Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:55 pmdylan41985 wrote:I don't get why there are three people not voting.
are they trying to play it safe or what?
Oj - if you are a monk or mason you should have said it.
unvote
vote: ojpower
Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:54 amdylan41985 wrote:Vote: LSU Tiger Josh
sweeny - the wolves won't kill you overnight. I've been protecting you all game.dylan41985 wrote:pleeeeeeeeeease Sweenytodd. you still have a chance to go far in this game
Look at my Post 9 with Newest first, and compare.
Not sure how his Day 2 town behavior *would* be, I will look to see if there is a finished game where he has made it to Day 2 as town, and further compare.
He wasn't ever really pressured in Open 23 though, I do note that.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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I believe there have been 3 bandwagons:NabakovNabakov wrote: I haven't seen any specific goals that Dylan is going after, and he isn't hoping on to bandwagons as blantantly here as he was there.
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He was on both J-man, and CKD, both votes providedwithoutreasoning, and put CKD at L-1 as quietly as possible.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Care to come up with your own reason, and even that reason is pretty weak, atleast give us something new for us to discuss.Crub wrote: Having said thatvote pickem. I agree with MoS as to why pickem is scum. He was inconsistent when it came to the J-Man lynch.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Crub wrote:
No wonder no one has been lynched if everyone who votes has to supply a different reason.pickemgenius wrote:
Care to come up with your own reason, and even that reason is pretty weak, atleast give us something new for us to discuss.Crub wrote: Having said thatvote pickem. I agree with MoS as to why pickem is scum. He was inconsistent when it came to the J-Man lynch.
First: I didn't talk talk him into starting a J-man bandwagon.Crub wrote:Anyway your actions during the J-Man bandwagon seemed scummy to me. From the start you directed suspicion at J-Man while being very hands off, it's like you didn't want to be involved with the lynching of an innocent townie.
First you convinced Tromboner to start the bandwagon :
Then you agree that we should be putting pressure on J-Man to get information yet you don't vote for him:pickemgenius wrote: You're right in the fact that J-man has been somewhat vocal about your lynch.
Thats a fair point.
A bandwagon doesn't start out of thin air.
If people agree with you, then they might vote for him.
pickemgenius wrote: While however unsmart it may be for J-man to be at L-2 relatively early, it's not a bad thing really, it's building pressure and is giving him a chance to defend himself, so we can have a logical decision on wheter or not he is or is not scum.pickemgenius wrote: We see how he reacts to X(5) amount of votes being placed on him.
Yeah if he defends himself, we can tell if it is good or not, and make more progress from there.
I don't know/see many townies offering themselves to be killed, it's not really smart, but that's just me.
And then as MoS already pointed out you laid out why you thought J-Man was scum and yet still didn't vote.
I hope that meets your requirements for a reason?pickemgenius wrote: My vibe-o-meter™ just went from wishy washy to more likely scum. I'm not really happy with his last few posts.
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why are you not scum? What have you done that is pro-town? Who is a better candidate for scum than you? What have they done that is anti-town?
I felt that you only answered latter two.
Town members NEED to defend themselves always.
The afformentioned scummy vibes i've recently got is that in my first game ever (Newbie 334) one of the scum didn't post a defense for himself, and only listed a suspicion list. So it's almost like deja-vu, with a different person.
I do agree that we need everyone to comment on J-man, so that we don't come to a hasty conclusion.
It was just weird that he was all J-man=scum, so I'll vote mole to see if I can save my ass, so I explained that if he feels he has a solid point, then somebody has to start the bandwagon, and at that time I really didn't find J-man scummy.
Second: There was alot of pressure already on J-man, with 5 votes.
I wanted to see his defense first, as I wasn't getting many scummy vibes from him, so basically it would have been unneccessary/stupid for me to add a "pressure" vote and put him at L-1
Third: Yes, my reason for thinking he could be scum was very shitty though(as has been said before, and I've admitted to), I don't believe in dropping a hammer on somebody for a very shitty reason. I wanted more of a defense aswell from him.
So question to you: You say I should have dropped the hammer on J-man, why should I have, when my reason was very shitty?ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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