Mini Normal 1609: The Case Of Doctor Pepper (Game Over)

Titus · Post Post #2284 (isolation #0) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:03 am

For the record, Wake did not pm me specifically.

Readingish now.

Titus · Post Post #2286 (isolation #1) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:10 am

Ok skimmed Csareo's ISO. I replaced in here because he and I have a lot in common. I like the guy but he lost his cool here. He has a lot of the same plusses and minuses I do even when stressed. He's dropped the constant reference to military strat which is goid. Now just to get him to detach.

Titus · Post Post #2287 (isolation #2) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:12 am

In post 2262, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2260, Csareo wrote:
In post 2258, Wake1 wrote:Warnings are something I strive to give any of my players whenever I mod my games. That's one reason why my modding is virtually flawless.

Do you allow mod psychology in your games?

I'm unfamiliar with the term.

He's referring to outguessing the nod and modslips. Setup cracking is ok. Modslips are not.

Titus · Post Post #2288 (isolation #3) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:14 am

I want to hear from Massive and AK on who they want to lynch.

Titus · Post Post #2290 (isolation #4) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:53 am

I haven't fully read yet. I prefer to take stances on players after I have a flip. If you're scum, my input on that question is pointless.

Why not shoot BBT? It's a decent goid shot and a lot of players would get reads.

Titus · Post Post #2322 (isolation #5) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:36 am

I haven't read yet, but for right now, I'm inclined to want JA vigged if we lynch HHT. I'm less inclinded to do it based off his recent posting. Flipping them both would do significant amounts for me finding where the scum likely are.

Titus · Post Post #2323 (isolation #6) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:38 am

In post 2321, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2319, TellTaleHeart wrote:*sigh*

So, I'm guessing you have absolutely nothing to say about who I'm saying I'm considering killing (who I've listed numerous times now).

So I'm thinking BBT, as I've said a few times now, if you flip Town. If you flip Scum, well, chances are you're not a Vengeful Goon.

If you are Town, you've gotta admit it's not likely there's also two Masons out there, and one of them happens to be your Neighbor. I like adding Neighborhoods in my games. But Masons? I don't think so. I highly, highly, highly, HIGHLY doubt that the NRG would allow that. Can't quote things...
but I highly doubt it in a Normal game
.

Masons are explicitly normal. So why not masons and a cop? With a vengeful goon which hasn't been seen with in awhile?

Titus · Post Post #2324 (isolation #7) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:39 am

In post 2300, Wake1 wrote:If memory serves, Scum-Titus focuses on the minutiae. Keep that in mind.

Why would you say this? I function on the minutiae as both alignments. People just don't understand me when I'm town. This is nothing but doubtcasting me.

Titus · Post Post #2336 (isolation #8) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:53 am

@Jagged, getting both you and HHT flips creates interesting scenarios

1) Both scum (HHT is trapped and must shoot his buddy), town was arguing over which scum to lynch.
2) HHT scum and JA town, votes can be analyzed in light of the flip. Who bussed who did not and why? Why were there so many counterwagons to HHT scum?
3) JA scum and HHT town, votes again can be analyzed in light of the flip. Who bussed? Who did not? Why? Why was HHT a persistent wagon as town?
4) Both are town, then we find out scum were pushing both lynches and proceed accordingly.

VCA is a big part of my game so I tend to do things like vote just to make wagons even.

Titus · Post Post #2340 (isolation #9) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:55 am

@JA on an irrelevant note, I tend to prefer Spider in my second refrigerator. Don't you agree? :-p

Titus · Post Post #2351 (isolation #10) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:05 am

In post 2345, Jagged Appliance wrote:
In post 2336, Titus wrote:@Jagged, getting both you and HHT flips creates interesting scenarios

1) Both scum (HHT is trapped and must shoot his buddy), town was arguing over which scum to lynch.
2) HHT scum and JA town, votes can be analyzed in light of the flip. Who bussed who did not and why? Why were there so many counterwagons to HHT scum?
3) JA scum and HHT town, votes again can be analyzed in light of the flip. Who bussed? Who did not? Why? Why was HHT a persistent wagon as town?
4) Both are town, then we find out scum were pushing both lynches and proceed accordingly.

VCA is a big part of my game so I tend to do things like vote just to make wagons even.

You want a multilynch for info and you don't seem to have a very strong idea of what info you will gain judging by this post. You didn't even mention any names.

I didn't mention names because I'm not doing 3 irrelevant analyses to get the names you seek. There would be shit ton of information gathered here. Why does this bother you so much if you're a VT?

Titus · Post Post #2401 (isolation #11) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:42 pm

VOTE: Jagged

I don't like him or tell tale.

Titus · Post Post #2402 (isolation #12) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:49 pm

Don't you find it funny that when I suggest the vengeful shoot Jagged how his wagon deteriorates?

Titus · Post Post #2410 (isolation #13) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:56 pm

In post 2405, FakeGod wrote:
In post 2395, FakeGod wrote:Titus, if you could give me your thoughts after catching up, I would appreciate it greatly.

I will take your vote as you're not doing this.

TTH, hammer.

Tomorrow I will. I wanted to play today out and get wagon info. Jagged and TTH's responses were not good today but I don't want to be stuck in tunnel vision mode.

That should be L-1 by my notes.

Titus · Post Post #2413 (isolation #14) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:58 pm

FakeGod, fearless is the right answer. If someone fasthammers, we get info. Given my play will center on flips and cracking them, that's the idea. I do not fear death or much negative consequence. I do not act stupid but I do not act out of fear.

Titus · Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:41 am

[barn]

In post 2614, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 2594, Anatole Kuragin wrote:The AK and TTH wagons both look like counter-wagons and Crayons and JA were both on both wagons.

For the record:

I started both wagons (my placement on the current Anatole wagon is incorrect, due to mod error). I made such votes because (1) I have repeatedly stated why I think a Jagged lynch is not good, and (2) I explained why I thought these other players were more scummy and deserving of a lynch.

Vote Count error fixed!

- Bert

[/barn]

Don't put the VCA before the flip guys.

Titus · Post Post #2649 (isolation #16) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:31 pm

Ok time for vca. Knowing BBT is Mason and two other townflips can get a start. I would rather have a scumflip but we have hundreds of posts here.

Titus · Post Post #2730 (isolation #17) » Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:43 am

I want either Rufflig or massive today. I think this is the classic 2 masons with a roleblocker setup.

VOTE: Massive

Titus · Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:36 am

In post 2734, The Rufflig wrote:@Titus: What's with the massive vote? Did you find something in your vca?

Not completely. If I'm right on the setup, Massive sharing a no result implies he's a cop of somesort which wouldn't fit into the setup. Plus an outright copish claim doesn't make sense at the start of day 2 not without a guilty.

I need to go into more detail on the VCA though. Pesky work. Scum flip would also help.

Titus · Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:37 am

In post 2732, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 2730, Titus wrote:I want either Rufflig or massive today. I think this is the classic 2 masons with a roleblocker setup.

VOTE: Massive

I agree with this statement completely, but why exactly do you see Rufflig as scummy? I've been semi null leaning more towards scum towards him the entire game for the most part.

Ruffling's tone seems more about causing chaos than it does creating townreads and working together with people.

Titus · Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:39 am

In post 2652, Boonskiies wrote:massive: no result.

This does claim Massive is cop with no result right?

Titus · Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:44 am

Well shit that's easy. Got the vote wrong.

VOTE: Boonskiies

Why the hell is he fully agreeing with my setup if I'm stating he isn't existing in it?

Doogal and Flubber, I want to leave them alone for now. Could be scum who knows?

@Wake, iceproof townie gambit here?

Titus · Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:28 am

Alright. I'm going lurker for the next day or so to finish the VCA.

Titus · Post Post #2797 (isolation #23) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:00 am

@Rufflig, you are right. I haven't read the entire game. Totally ceding that point.

The last large theme I subbed into which was hosted by knight errant, my vca found the sk and a scum.
When my vca is done, it's done right. I have more of a record so I see why you are shitting yourself here. Problem is I have had a hell of a night and got little done.

VOTE: Rufflig

Flubber's vote looks like a bus. "Legit scumread" seriously? You never talked that way as town in the game I ICed

Titus · Post Post #2807 (isolation #24) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:08 pm

@Rufflig, I put my vote on you for the suspicions I've already voiced in the thread. I can find them or I can get to work on analysis. I'd prefer if you read my posts. Here's a hint +f "tone" will likely do it.

Setup spec is how I dominate as scum. I was flat out wrong on the setup (neighbors + plus masons). When I realized I had the setup wrong, there's no reason to rule out any sort of tracker. I thought Boonskiie's post was a catchup because I wasn't reading closely. I was wrong on that. Now, I've got work to do.

Titus · Post Post #2808 (isolation #25) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:34 pm

So we know BBT is a Mason. We know GC was a mason. Scum avoided killing a tracker (Boonskiies) and a vengeful "townie" (TTH). This is worth noting later. Eventually one of the two will stand out if they don't die. We can always lynch TTH and have him suicide on someone if the pair truly become a dichotomy. Hell of a way to lose a PR but a PR for scum trade is one I'd take.

Onto the VCA.

Some of my analysis depends on me knowing I am town. I hate doing analysis with that, but as you'll see it's obviously unavoidable.

1.13 is where we get the first competing wagons. We know BBT is town and full of unknowns.

FakeGod unvotes. This ties BBT and Boonskiies.

FakeGod and AK swap at 1.15

Then both are off at 1.16 and the wagons are tied again. Green Crayons (confirmed town) moves off of town to vote Boonskiies.

FakeGod and AK are both off the boonskiies wagon.

This tells me that it is very likely one of FG or AK at least is scum.

If Boonskiies is town, scum benefit by being off the wagon and having two dueling townwagons to lynch. If Boonskiies is scum with either one of the two of them, they'd benefit by bussing him.

At 1.20 We see a Jagged Alliance wagon pop-up on town just as the BBT wagon is collapsing. Scum would benefit more by having just a lurker lynch on Boonskiies if he was town. Yet we see a counterwagon on Jagged.

The two votes on TTH are by confirmed town at this point.

Then there's some interesting wagon motion going on. Csareo leaves the TTH wagon to vote confirmed town. I sub in and pick the wrong choice out of TTH and Jagged Appliance. I should have seen the votepark sooner. Most of the votes on JA sat relatively parked. JA was providing content, even if it did make my skin crawl.

Right now, I'd want to lynch FakeGod and TTH as my top choices. If TTH flips town, we know scum were evenly split day one and were causing chaos within ourselves. He flips scum and we know that Boonskiies is almost certainly town and is protected. Given any vengeful townie claim can only shoot one town PR role (tracker or mason), the doctor can easily heal the other.

FakeGod is my favorite pick for scum though.

Rufflig is my third but I'm not sure how much of that is confirmation bias.

TTH is the safest pick to verify my theories. FG is the most likely to flip scum based purely on votes. Ruffling is the scummiest sounding player lately.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: FakeGod

Titus · Post Post #2811 (isolation #26) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:44 pm

Better than what? What did you expect?

Titus · Post Post #2827 (isolation #27) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:41 am

No. I do VCA from an impartial perspective. I know I am town but you do not know that. I do this so you can track the thought pattern and premises. It's much easier to discredit a VCA if all of it presumes I am town.

Titus · Post Post #2870 (isolation #28) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:07 am

In post 2865, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2864, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I did answer you Wake

Alright. If you did then I missed it. That's not your fault if you did.

Would you be willing to say why you're so sure you will not be killed tonight? Please? That way I won't have to scour the thread to find it (another reason why I ask is because I don't like misunderstanding other players' posts).

I doubt there's a protective role in this game. Yet again, if there is one, please keep it under wraps. Since you're basically a confirmed Mason, you're like an Innocent Child role. That is very dangerous for Scum. They would have to kill you soon, and the later they wait with it the more dangerous it becomes for them. In the completed games I play, Scum pretty much always kills the basically-confirmed Townies over the Unsures.

If you don't die tonight I won't understand it, especially if TTH doesn't die either. I also feel it'd be overpowered for there to be two Masons in a 13-player game, while being connected to a presumably-Town Vengeful Neighbor, and a Tracker. From my experience with the NRG, I don't feel they'd allow that and possibly more into the game.

Agreed. That is overpowered. If they shoit wrong, scum could be outed. That is why I don't think GC was an accident (beyond his mason flip).

I do think TTH is the scum in the PR claimers. I would like a scumflip though.

Titus · Post Post #2899 (isolation #29) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:08 am

The lynch candidates should be FG AK TTH or Rufflig barring a scumclaim.

Titus · Post Post #2980 (isolation #30) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:21 pm

VOTE: FakeGod

You want a 1 v 1 with Ruffig. My VCA says you or AK is scum. So you get my vote.

@Wake, what did I miss?

Titus · Post Post #3179 (isolation #31) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:35 am

Holy shit... 5 or six pages to catch up at least... reading...

Titus · Post Post #3197 (isolation #32) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:45 am

VOTE: TellTaleHeart

No problem. Please shoot FG or AK, or if I'm totally wrong shoot a scum so I can review.

@Wake, you said I missed questions, let I don't know what I missed. (Page 121)

Titus · Post Post #3205 (isolation #33) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:54 am

@BBT, why do you not want to push TTH? He feels confident enough that he has a scum known. If he's scum gambiting, we get a scum lynch regardless of who he shoots. If he's town that confident, who he shoots will give us info. If he's right, that will allow me to relook at the VCA with more precise info. If he's wrong, then we can suppose scum are egging him on.

Titus · Post Post #3207 (isolation #34) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:55 am

@Wake, WHERE IS THE QUESTION YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER?

Titus · Post Post #3214 (isolation #35) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:00 am

In post 3209, Anatole Kuragin wrote:Titus you're typically really into meta - you've got two or three finished games with me now as both alignments. Why haven't you made any comparisons of my games?

LOL. No. Meta is a baseline but isn't not anything beyond that.

Titus · Post Post #3215 (isolation #36) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:01 am

In post 3213, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2740, Titus wrote:
@Wake, iceproof townie gambit here?

This. I want you to explain this. Thoroughly.

I thought you were the roleblocker in the mason roleblocker setup I wrongly thought. So I was asking you if I could fake being roleblocker to protect you.

Titus · Post Post #3220 (isolation #37) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:05 am

In post 3219, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:TTH, please unvote

Why so protective here?

Titus · Post Post #3226 (isolation #38) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:07 am

I'll try again. The iceproof townie gambit, I faked my role to protect other people. So I wanted to again, fake being more powerful than I am to draw a nightkill away from the perceived roleblocker.

Titus · Post Post #3233 (isolation #39) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:09 am

In post 3227, Wake1 wrote:Watches drama unfold, yet again, on the rise and subsequent fall of TTH's wagon, because she's actually Scum with two other players.

I'm not following this. Who are you talking about?

Titus · Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:11 am

In post 3285, Wake1 wrote:All I can say is that I'm baffled with much of the ridiculous happenings in this game.

Can we slow the hell down? I do actually have housework to do and other games.

Titus · Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:24 am

@Wake, need to figure out how to communicate with you....I think I know but that would be ~ongoing~.

Titus · Post Post #3658 (isolation #42) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:50 am

I need to update VCA based on the latest flip. Did not realize this opened.

Titus · Post Post #3660 (isolation #43) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:51 am

From my perspective, I have damn near solved the game btw just need to look to confirm tonight.

Titus · Post Post #3881 (isolation #44) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:46 pm

@Wake, Boon claimed before the night of no death.

Titus · Post Post #3999 (isolation #45) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:20 am

If you wanted an updated VCA, all you had to do was ask. Given we have some flips, my VCA should be more precise.

Pending that, I am not wanting to push FG because my VCA suggested one of AK or FG was scum.

I hope to have it up tonight. Got a large work project atm.

VLA today until Friday

Titus · Post Post #4224 (isolation #46) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:32 am

Mod waited for my response...if I was scum that would include a kill.

BBT is confirmed town and not dead. The smart thing to do would be to claim doc or jailkeep but I am a VT.

Wake define bomb plz.

Titus · Post Post #4225 (isolation #47) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:33 am

Need to analyze and I want Boon's claim of actions. He should have no visit mathmatically.

Titus · Post Post #4228 (isolation #48) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:34 am

Will crack later. Gotta go to work.

Titus · Post Post #4231 (isolation #49) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:37 am

In post 4227, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Titus, where the fuck have you been?

Real life.

Titus · Post Post #4236 (isolation #50) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:39 am

My biggest concern is the optimsl move for Wake scum is Boonskiies death as he would not know about your 180.

Boon nk makes sense bc he'd have to kill BBT and then pick a mano e mano ml battle.

Titus · Post Post #4237 (isolation #51) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:40 am

Off to work.

Titus · Post Post #4240 (isolation #52) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:43 am

In post 4238, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Can you elaborate Titus, I'm not sure what you mean.

Wake scum would kill Boon. Leaves 1 v 1 with me.

Boonscum kills you, he has to get a guilty or clear. Following his results he is fakeclaiming the other is scum. NK leaves either ML open.

Titus · Post Post #4243 (isolation #53) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:47 am

Leaning Boon. Wake has a shot due to him using RL he is aware of as a reason to scumread me in endgame. Need to see votes later.

My ride will be here any second.

Titus · Post Post #4246 (isolation #54) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:49 am

Mason just has hammer in lylo. It's not as ridiculous as you imply.

Wake stop being petulant and let me work.

Titus · Post Post #4250 (isolation #55) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:54 am

BBT, I would be skeptical of a guilty in lylo when BBT kept missing before. That is a 1 v1.

Gtg ride here.

Titus · Post Post #4269 (isolation #56) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:55 am

I will look as well.

Boonskiies is the only logical scum. He is the one most likely to NK. This setup is most beneficial to him. He kills, he has to declare who is scum.

VCA was far from fruitful. Given zero counterwagons and major speedlynching it is hard to tell anything. NK analysis just tells me that Boonskiies should not be alive.

As for claiming doctor or jailkeep after VT it has been done before. See revolution mafia.

As confident I am in Boon scum, the play is to NL.

Boonskiies scum will likely have to cater to Wake and hope fir a quicklynch and shoot BBT. Wakescum shoots Boonskiies and hopes to convince BBT. Either way, the death will clarify who the last scum is for me beyond any doubt.

Wake, the same should be true from your petspective. BBT doesn't think you are scum. Your big comment was I benefitted from an NK. It's bullshit bc I forgot to PM Bert because I am a VT. VTs do not PM. Force me to choose if you think I am scum. Boonskiies scum cannot kill himself.

I am putting trust in you because NL will lead to Boonscum faking a track on me.

Titus · Post Post #4270 (isolation #57) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:00 am

Yeah, Boon hasn't even claimed half of his tracks.

Titus · Post Post #4272 (isolation #58) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:01 am

BBT that is a fucking mistake. I just laid things out. It is mylo. The claims mean you are not autodead. I have to trust Wake who I had tried to take a bullet for.

Titus · Post Post #4280 (isolation #59) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:52 am

Wake I had my gut suspicions on them being lurker scum. I called them out.

At the time I thought BBT could be scum. My VCA depends on dueling wagons.

Titus · Post Post #4283 (isolation #60) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:55 am

It is all about where would scum go.

Yes Wake that was based on a setup misunderstanding.

Titus · Post Post #4284 (isolation #61) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:56 am

In post 4282, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Why would Titus kill FakeGod?

WHY WOULD SHE DO IT?????

I'm so confused

I did not. That is why. Boonskiies did.

Titus · Post Post #4285 (isolation #62) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:58 am

Turns out Massive and Boon were both scum so I dree heat for that and townreading u Wake.

Titus · Post Post #4287 (isolation #63) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:12 am

Boon can wait for popular consensus for scumread.

You are inno.
he "clears"one. The other must be scum.

Here he lauys back votes who gets a vote.

Titus · Post Post #4289 (isolation #64) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:30 am

Why wouldn't Wake kill Boon?

Titus · Post Post #4290 (isolation #65) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:31 am

If Boons is town and Wake is scum then scum sent Massive N4 to do the kill.

Titus · Post Post #4292 (isolation #66) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:35 am

Hell Wake could kill you and rely on me townreafing him. Nk is bad. Fotces unnecessary gambit.

Titus · Post Post #4299 (isolation #67) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:11 am

Boon I meant you did not claim them in your first post. Your first post of each day. Anyone can retcon.

Wake you are being manipulated.

Titus · Post Post #4305 (isolation #68) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:17 am

In post 4303, Wake1 wrote:
In post 4298, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:FG was defending her.

He was like the only person stopping me from tunneling on Titus.

What better cover is there?

She has the one defending her NK'd and, well, "how could she be Scum?? WHY???"

Scum Tactics 101.

Wifom confbias.

I made that mistake in Gundam. I do not make the same error twice.

Titus · Post Post #4307 (isolation #69) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:18 am

In post 4301, Boonskiies wrote:I DID claim it on my first post of the day.

On the others. Prove Wake track et al. I could not find it.

Titus · Post Post #4308 (isolation #70) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:19 am

In post 4306, Wake1 wrote:Titus, who do you suspect the most?

Boon. Should be evident from my posts.

Titus · Post Post #4315 (isolation #71) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:24 am

Boon show me post 1 day 4. Wake went nowhere.

NL os best play. I said thay.

Titus · Post Post #4316 (isolation #72) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:25 am

Gundam Seed Majjiffy was towbeard. Shot him to clear myself. It bombed.

Titus · Post Post #4319 (isolation #73) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:28 am

Typo phone post stop dodging. Show each post whete you claim the track for the prior night.

Titus · Post Post #4320 (isolation #74) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:33 am

That post is defending Wake logic not a
track claim.

Boons benefits from a no kill. Wake is not helping matters. He is making me paranoid he was setting me up.

Titus · Post Post #4322 (isolation #75) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:40 am

In post 2365, Boonskiies wrote:I don't really understand the AK lynch. How is his flip beneficial to us?

Just grabbing this here while I was looking.

Boon posted his quoted post assuming to argue it was a track. Yet he posted it right after you, implying more about your logic.

Flubber to massive makes no sense day 3 either.i couldn't find the claim for that.

Titus · Post Post #4323 (isolation #76) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:42 am

I am starting to get paranoid on you Wake bc your insistance on scum Titus based on history when this is anything but scum me.

I gtg. Be back later. Work calls.

Titus · Post Post #4328 (isolation #77) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:30 am

Wake, saying this is Scum Titus based on meta is bringing history into things. You aren't helping matters by being so sure of falsehoods you should know are false.

Boonskiies choice of track onMassive even if believed is problematic because that would mean he thought scum would send a claimed survivor for the kill. That's foolish.

I got issues with both. Still heavily leaning Boon because I still cannot find the flubber track and nk benefits him the most.

Titus · Post Post #4329 (isolation #78) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:31 am

Wake, saying this is Scum Titus based on meta is bringing history into things. You aren't helping matters by being so sure of falsehoods you should know are false.

Boonskiies choice of track onMassive even if believed is problematic because that would mean he thought scum would send a claimed survivor for the kill. That's foolish.

I got issues with both. Still heavily leaning Boon because I still cannot find the flubber track and nk benefits him the most.

Titus · Post Post #4351 (isolation #79) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:16 am

Wake, why is your rush to lynch today?

Tomorrow, one of three things will happen.

One, no kill + nl...suggestion of HEA.
Two, BBT dies. Boonskiies has confirmed a scum via his tracks. So either Boon will fake a guilty on me, fake one on you or have a real guilty on you. Either way, one of us decides and looks closely at Boon.
Three, Boon dies and BBT makes the choice.

Titus · Post Post #4353 (isolation #80) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:24 am

Day 6. Context makes that clear. One of the three scenariosI outlined must happen.

Titus · Post Post #4354 (isolation #81) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:26 am

Well scenario 4 is remote... scum kill either you or me resulting in a Boon and Wake/House crossvote

Titus · Post Post #4355 (isolation #82) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:27 am

Any way you slice it, we go into 3p lylo w conftowm.

Titus · Post Post #4357 (isolation #83) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:29 am

Yes. I only said it like 5 times.

NL results in possible Happily Ever After or 3p lylo with conftown.

Titus · Post Post #4359 (isolation #84) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:32 am

Boonskiies tracks one of us. He gets a clear. He knows the other is scum. The clear is conftown. He gets a scumtrack. Crossvote occurs. Conftown generated.

Titus · Post Post #4361 (isolation #85) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:51 am

Moot point. I would prefer if he tracked me but either is fine.

If Boon tracks me and gets an inno, either he is lying or you are.
If Boon tracks me and gets a guilty, he is confirmed scum.
If Boon tracks you and gets an inno, he is lying because that would make us both inno. Thus he is scum.
If he tracks you and gets a guilty, then either you or him are lying.

The above assumes BBT is dead.

Boonskiies inno is likely confirmed town.

Titus · Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:29 am

In post 4362, Boonskiies wrote:What stops Titus from making another no kill?

First I am vt. Second Happily EVER after.

Titus · Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:31 am

If you hate the suggestion, crack it. Confirming me or Wake is good. Your hesitance is why I think u nked.

Titus · Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:32 am

You die ten it is between me and Wake. 3p lylo w conftown.

Titus · Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:49 am

You as scum would hate nling Boon because you clear one of us and reveal you are scum to one of us.

Titus · Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:51 am

If you are town Boon you should have no problem leaving the game in your clear's hands.

Titus · Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:17 am

Wrong. At least one of you me Wake is conftown by nling unless scum risk HEA.

Titus · Post Post #4386 (isolation #92) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:39 pm

Wake my absense has been across every game. Why are you acting like I am avoiding and orchestrating from the sidelines when even a cursory look across MS showed greatly reduced posting.

Titus · Post Post #4388 (isolation #93) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:51 pm

In post 4382, Boonskiies wrote:This is why I don't trust there being another night, because it makes no sense for anyone to die but me, and then I'll have to leave it up to Mr. Town Reads Person then Scum Reads One for the Same Exact Thing.

Suppose Wake is scum, it would make more sense for BBT to die.

Whoever dies, we move to 3p lylo with known town Boon. If scum let you live, you will hold the answer. Wake cannot pretend to townread you because you would have a scum result on him.

If you are scum well you have got Wake and hewill kill BBT.

Titus · Post Post #4391 (isolation #94) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:34 pm

I cannot kill because I am a VT.

You are attempting to force a lynch today because you know continuing is bad for you. Killing BBT means that Boon confirms you are scum. Boon's being survivalistic. 3p lylo with conftown is best.

Your move. I won't vote.

Either you or Boon is scum. I get 100% confirmation of which.

Boon, you are saying you don't want a confirmed win from your perspective...really?

Titus · Post Post #4392 (isolation #95) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:40 pm

In post 4390, Boonskiies wrote:I don't want to live another day is what I'm saying. I don't want the end result to be based off if someone believes my tracker guilty/inno claim. And if I die, you'll convince BBT to vote Wake. It's damn obvious why you want a no kill.

The catch is if I am town, I am. I would be lynching Wake most likely.

You get a scum result on me, Wake requires zero convincing to ml me.

Titus · Post Post #4394 (isolation #96) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:28 pm

I did not ignore your statements. Repeating the same tired shit I have responded to does not mean I ignored you.

I actually wanted input here. A three player setup should confirm who is scum for me.

Boon said he tracked me and I went nowhere N 5.

Titus · Post Post #4397 (isolation #97) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:33 pm

Boon, would you ever consider Wake scum?

Mod: what are Happily Ever After Conditons?

Titus · Post Post #4408 (isolation #98) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:35 am

We lost. Scum won.

Titus · Post Post #4409 (isolation #99) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:40 am

No lynch was the best manuever. We got screwed by quicklynching over and over.

Titus · Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:44 am

There was literally ZERO reason to lynch. We would go into 3p with a conftown.

Titus · Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:17 am

No they would not. Their theory was I was absent. I clearly was not here.

Their theory was I was scum for not posting.

Wake if you are town you were a dumbass and ignored logic completely

Titus · Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:38 am

VCA was shit this game due to quicklynchibg. Wake's insistince on neutering me and refusing to consider boon scum when it is not my scum meta speaks volumes.

Titus · Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:38 am

Wake, use logic. Thank you.