Mini 1543--Natirasha's On Parole!(Game Over)

[Cabd]

Cabd you still gonna shoot me?

.

...The only reason I was shooting your slot was as a policy vig because of katsuki's play or lack thereof.

[Cabd]

you could get payback for the drunkhammer?

Who are you leaning towards to shoot now?

You were town that game though. If anything i'd want payback for your shithammer on nacho in that open madness.

[Cabd]

Pretty sure I'm going to turn the next mislynch into a vengeful townie, barring them giving me a really stupid name.

[Cabd]

That was a pretty quick reversal of opinion, ffery. You are now sure you DON'T want to get lynched today?

[Cabd]

Pretty sure I'm going to turn the next mislynch into a vengeful townie, barring them giving me a really stupid name.

you'd let Aronis call your shot? what if they ask you to shoot a townread

Why do you ask really stupid questions when the answer is in the thing you quoted?

[Cabd]

I am losing so much hair over the posts in this game.

[Cabd]

I just had a crazy thought, don't lynch me for it!, What if there was a Cabd-SSK scum team. Cabd gets the town to pick a target, then if they are town, use the scumkill on them and SSK blocks the fake scumkill and claims the person he protected was the third scum. Or if the target is a Mafia, SSK blocks Cabd's kill bc he thinks they are town and the scum just random kill someone. It's crazy and unrealistic, but I've seen it happen.

1. You're a self-professed newbie. Where did you see it happen?
2. That would take balls of granite, and would put Cabd (who nobody really seemed to profess as scumread on) in unnecessary spotlight. This alone makes it unlikely.
3. This conclusion is not supported by Cabd's earlier mention of a no-kill gambit in response to my statement that SSK could be cleared by blocking a scumkill. In other words, Cabd is not shoring up any sort of town credit for SSK based on SSK's claim, which he would want to do following your theory.
4. This sounds like an attempt to deflect attention.

To be fair, crazy shit like this is the definition of my scumgame.

[Cabd]

This is me not hammering. That means Im confirmed town, right? Good.

[Cabd]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Goodfather

FIne, we can run you up to L-1 and you claim the old fashioned way.

[Cabd]

Scumdoc, town nurse, town vig.... Sounds utterly like something nati would do.

[Cabd]

This is the part where you fuckers massclaim.

[Cabd]

Just couldn't resist fake claiming PR could ya?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: ssk

[Cabd]

Scumdoc, town nurse, town vig.... Sounds utterly like something nati would do.

Also possible.

[Cabd]

Ffery, I'm sorry, If you want polygamy I'll have to confer with lynx and find a nation where it's legal.

[Cabd]

That still doesn't explain why you wouldn't protect me if you were towning me so hard you were willing to follow my reads on everyone.

[Cabd]

Yeah, I'm here. What of it?

[Cabd]

Maybe. If ssk flips town, who would you want to vig?

I take it your GF read is in flux?

[Cabd]

He won't be. We have until.... tomorrow some time?

[Cabd]

Okay. I want both nacho and muffin to give a bigger "full picture" set of thoughts here.

Guyett's slot may have towned, but red wine gave me a lesson on obvtowning replacements making you ignore scummy new tenants.

[Cabd]

Holy shit bert actually might have rolled scum here.

[Cabd]

One of you fuckers unvotes now, or I shoot entirely from this wagon tonight.

I am NOT going to have this day end without having a chance to do my last dance with ffery.

Every fucking time that doesn't happen, scum slips through.

[Cabd]

One of you fuckers unvotes now, or I shoot entirely from this wagon tonight.

I am NOT going to have this day end without having a chance to do my last dance with ffery.

Every fucking time that doesn't happen, scum slips through.

Srsly, who gives a damn about 'dancing with ffery'?

...

I.... I don't even know what to say to this? I mean even if you ignore everything that has been said about mine and selkies past history, and even if you scumread them... Why the actual fuck would you say this?

[Cabd]

I've been asleep bert.

[Cabd]

There's over one day remaining. I want to spend this evening (6PMish GMT -8) talking to ffery. Once we're done, then we can hammer and or move on. It's not that much to ask, given that I'm the most likely night kill tonight.

[Cabd]

Yeah, finishing my subway right now.

[Cabd]

Done.


As of right now, spit out a reads list. Then I wanna talk outliers.

[Cabd]

GF's claim does nothing for you?

[Cabd]

So you still think SSK is town even with his claimed night actions making zero fucking sense?

[Cabd]

How does your list compare?

I don't have a list yet. Being practically confirmed town soon to be actually confirmed town has made me fat and lazy. I wanted your notes out there first.

[Cabd]

yeah, there's a downside to near-confirmed.

I'm actually not a huge fan of it.

Also lynx says only if you bring cute animals she can snuggle with.

[Cabd]

There is probably scum in my middle group. I feel good about the top group.

Well given your bottom tier is two names, if there isn't scum in the middle group something has gone terribly wrong with this setup.

[Cabd]

Town

Cabd
SSK
Bert
zmuffin - strongest town read of the neighbors

Maybe Town

notsci
nacho
Guyett
IK

Not So Town

Aronis - least town of the neighbors
GF

Vs.

TOWN

Aronis
notscience
MafiaSSK
Cabd
Guyett (r. Katsuki)

DUNNO

Nachomamma
Muffin

MEBBE SCUM

Goodfather

IdiotKing - since he might actually be lynched and I might get what I want - actually looks like a really solid player though regardless if scum/town, reminds me of Lynx_Shine, so probably won't stick around long (oops did I just say that). has a similar mojo

SCUM

Selkies

[Cabd]

I'm still here, we're re-imaging computers so I'm in phoneposting mode for the next two hours.

[Cabd]

but i have personally never seen a protective mafia role.

These exist a metric fuckton anytime there's town killing power.

[Cabd]

aka the 'bravely default is really hard

THAT FUCKING GAME UGH

[Cabd]

A neighbor with anything additional would be the "one per game" special role. Two neighbors having something extra is impossible.

[Cabd]

...Fucking lol.

{aronis/notsci/???}

[Cabd]

No but seriously, asshat. Claim. It's called massclaim. You have mass. You claim.

[Cabd]

Guess I'm done. Heading to bed.

BTW muffin, I'm really good at making sense of things.

[Cabd]

I'm at work for the next 7 hours, so I won't be doing much. We can go to vote etc if need be.

[Cabd]

Aronis.

Or me.

I said reasonable. Aronis doesn't have any votes on him and you only have one.

As for more evidence as to how there could be a doc and nurse. Look at Nat's first mini normal where there were two godfathers. I think Nat's not afraid of replication, but he'll always balance it. So if there is indeed a backup, scum will almost undoubtedly have a strongman (which is also a role that Nat loves).

Of note, this post gave me hives, but whatever. I'll be dead soon anyways.

[Cabd]

So my options are... claimed doc; claimed nurse, or... neighbor.

[Cabd]

Pre-emptively explaining why I die when he's supposed to be protecting me.

[Cabd]

UNVOTE:

I'll puit it back on in a few hours I guess.

[Cabd]

I'm here.

[Cabd]

One hour, 16 minutes. Nacho, claim, you scumfuck.

[Cabd]

You too notsci. Fucking claim.

[Cabd]

Oh, okay. Then who is unclaimed other than nachoscum?

[Cabd]

You too notsci. Fucking claim.

I'm still waiting for your fucking apology

The only apology you'll ever get from me is shooting bert to make you die of sads.

[Cabd]

I am literally going to policy vig from the unclaimed list unless somebody claims scum.

[Cabd]

I don't do softing boy. If you've got something to say then say it, otherwise you'd better start winding up now.

[Cabd]

Nacho, claim now.

Bert, claim now.

Notsci, tell me why i should give any fucks.

[Cabd]

<---totally willing to lynch nacho right now if he doesn't claim

[Cabd]

Policy dude. No claim, valid target.

[Cabd]

Okay let's pretend you're an innocent child, notsci. WHo would you ask me to shoot?

[Cabd]

Nacho and ffery fall into the "willing to murder to make their reads confirmed town" slot.

[Cabd]

Willing to lynch nacho at this point. He clearly doesn't deem this game worth his time other than drive by one liners.

[Cabd]

I won't hammer until the last few minutes though.

[Cabd]

5 minutes before deadline timer:

(expired on 2014-02-19 20:55:00)

[Cabd]

Nacho and ffery fall into the "willing to murder to make their reads confirmed town" slot.

In my case, you have my blessing.

If town wins, I'll post my answers in postgame.

No, if town loses you have to post them too.

[Cabd]

If Nacho swings IK.

Regardless of his flip? Interesting.

[Cabd]

Half hour, nacho. Tick fucking tock.

[Cabd]

Right but nacho's flipping scum/town affects your opinion on who to vig not at all?

[Cabd]

...And here I was thinking you were friendly neighbor bert. Well then.

[Cabd]

This setup is making even less sense than before.

[Cabd]

NATIMOD VOTECOUNT PLZZZZZZZ

[Cabd]

God I hate both my choices.

Ffery? It has to be both of us to get anything through.

[Cabd]

VOTE: IK

ANARCHY START9

[Cabd]

Not really. I hate this game day.

[Cabd]

The fuck?

[Cabd]

I shot last night so either blocked or I shot into scum bulletproof. (Or scum doc protected one of his own?). But both kills missing is WTF

[Cabd]

Don't answer that until nacho claims, steak sauce.

[Cabd]

Okay so massclaim shows three neighbors, doc, nurse, vig; tons of claimed vanillas.

[Cabd]

I'm listening.

[Cabd]

I will say who I shot after SSK claims who he protected. Any objections?

[Cabd]

Is it possible that both cabd and mafia targeted the same person and that that person was protected by SSK?

If this is the case, SSK has effectively claimed scum.

[Cabd]

I'm not gambiting here. Still actually a vig.

[Cabd]

Redirector is explicitly non-normal guyett, and you should know better than that. Not to mention, who would they re-direct to?

[Cabd]

SSK claims, then I vote depending on his announced target.

[Cabd]

Literally everyone is waiting on SSK''s target claim.

[Cabd]

SSK is around and posting, he'll check in here or die. Either or.

[Cabd]

So scum has a roleblocker, or there's a bulletproof scum neighbor. Take your pick, folks.

[Cabd]

Yeah I don't intend to really do anything until we get our posts back.

[Cabd]

You folks have fun, you're just making extra work for the mod, though.

[Cabd]

Still in a holding pattern for all eternity.

[Cabd]

Hang on, thinking about things re: night actions.

[Cabd]

Possibilities on how this went down:

Scenario A: Scum roleblocker, town doctor, town nurse, town vig
Vig targets aronis
Roleblocker blocks vig
Doctor targets vig
Scum shoots vig (?)

Scenario B: Scum doctor, town nurse, town vig

Vig targets aronis
Doctor targets aronis
scum shoots.... ?



So from a probability standpoint, A makes sense, so from there, it stands that whoever scum thought I was gonna shoot is one of them, and a needed/valuable player. Otherwise, why roleblock AND kill me? I must have been a threat to them, such that blocking the doctor and shooting me wasn't enough; lest they lose their PR. You know who that suggests? Bert.

[Cabd]

Me, nacho and notsci, would be my assumption.

[Cabd]

Cabd, I can see your scenario A fitting other players given your late day 2 posts.

I'm listening.

[Cabd]

Lol @ bert thinking me-ffery-nacho scumteam.

[Cabd]

It's already happened tho. And it ended up crashing and burning because lolcheating.

[Cabd]

Cabd's personality is quite assertive, so sheer confidence isn't really a sign of a PR for him is it?

Not all by itself, no.

Bert, you'd have better luck walking into fort Knox than getting data from her on how she goes about reading me.

[Cabd]

Why is that?

Coke doesn't go posting it's secret formula on Pepsi's facebook page.

[Cabd]

I could see myself voting there today yes.

[Cabd]

So all we have to do to hear "X" is run notscience up? Works for me.

[Cabd]

Depends, have you forgotten i tried to kill you last night?

[Cabd]

It seems a

little

like you are just trying to string us along so that you don't get lynched.

Fullclaim everything, or I'll vote to kill you instead of shooting you. Either works for me~~

[Cabd]

Nah I'm going to be Anti-town and put it off until after nightphase so I can discuss my fakeclaim with my buddy

...This is not a townslip, try again.

[Cabd]

Nacho v Muffin? Really?

Also lol@ffery currently voting me.

[Cabd]

Nacho, when you sober up, let's talk.

[Cabd]

Why did you even sign up for this game if you intend to play like this?

[Cabd]

Nacho, you and ffery both disagree with muffin's townslip angle?

[Cabd]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: aronis

This is at least 25% policy.

[Cabd]

Well, its that or selkies; because i'm fully willing to lynch her to make her reads confirmed if this weak shit continues.

[Cabd]

(And if scum, its minable as high hell too, i have a new fferyscum toy to use)

[Cabd]

Like, if nacho thinks the townslip angle is bullshit, why isn't he calling it a {notsci, muffin, ???} scumteam. And if he is, who is the third?

[Cabd]

I'd rather do selkies than random, so yeah.

[Cabd]

Selkies is a lot of info though. Better than random.

[Cabd]

Eh, nati's a slacker about rules.


VOTE: selkies

[Cabd]

Already blew my load trying to kill mr shitstain, sorry fferyorc.

[Cabd]

K guys let's drag this out to deadline again so we can lolherpaderp and piss nati off again?

Or we could just lynch somebody, I guess.

[Cabd]

Sweet. Choo choo motherfuckers.

Aronis vs selkies 1v1 go.

VOTE: aronis

[Cabd]

(Even if he's town, he's not invited to the lylo table)

[Cabd]

how is ssk/cabd still alive

Oh no you fucking don't. Don't you even make me start something.

[Cabd]

Do it anyways.

[Cabd]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL EPIC SCUMSLIP

Okay guys, goodfather is confirmed scum rolecop!

My claim was:

Okay so this game is dead, time to spice things up some.

I'm a compulsive night two oneshot vig.

So my vote does fucking count for a billion times more than the rest of you lot's. SO let's not PL somebody when I can just nail 'em between the eyes, mmkay?

My actual role is: Even night compulsive vig

Check my ISO. Not ONE instance of "even night" Not a one!

[Cabd]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: goodfather

WAGON FUCKING HO

[Cabd]

I don't need clearing, guyett. I just need a dead scum. The clearing can happen when I shoot another, unless it's roleblocker still out there in which case oh well, you'll just have to go on me being town as fuck.

[Cabd]

This doesn't clear you btw

That said this would be a super weird way for me and my buddy to interact. If I was fakeclaiming vig, i'd have said my fakeclaim as stated in the thread in the scum QT, not my actual role (revised fakeclaim in this scenario i guess?)

Like, that's a pretty dumb way to go about it, and if there's one thing i'm not, it's dumb when playing scum.

[Cabd]

AH well, i'll take that as a compliment to my scumgame and move right along, then. Hey GF you should probably go into confirmed scum troll mode. Look at Angry Pidgeon in antihero mafia for advice~

[Cabd]

And people wonder why I always slightly lie when claiming as town outside L-1. Now you know.

[Cabd]

Also, we can plan out my shot in case GF is the roleblocker, buuut i'll probably be roleblocked and or killed if not, so yeah.

[Cabd]

Pagetop for nati?

[Cabd]

You can edit this one, lovely mod~

[Cabd]

You think selkie's big goodfather case back on day two was a big bus?

[Cabd]

Even-night Vig-Doc-(2 or 3) neighbors vs rolecop-(goon or neighbor)-RB?

[Cabd]

post 1354

post 2056
Both strike me as unlikely to be scumbuds

[Cabd]

if you shot Aronis N2 he could be bullet proof tbh

Bulletproof/Rolecop makes perfect sense actually, good thinking.

[Cabd]

That would make it a scumteam of aronis/goodfather/???

[Cabd]

Cabd - Night 2 compulsive Vig

It's now even night compulsive vig, actually. I lied and that's why GF is confoscum lel.

[Cabd]

Vote: Goodfather

Hooray!

Be more useful.

Since aronis is probably bulletproof I'll have to shoot within the claimed VTs for tonight.

Who should that VT shot be?

p-edit:
UNVOTE:

[Cabd]

You never fucking L-1 confirmed scum when there's shit to talk about.

[Cabd]

In fact notscience just made my shot choice really fucking easy.

[Cabd]

Your "townblock" being who, exactly?

[Cabd]

I mean yeah he could be oneshot bulletproof but eh, it makes sense nati would make at least one scum that has to be lynched.

[Cabd]

I was thinking more like 2shot rolecop. But rolecop and 1shot bulletproof, sure.

[Cabd]

Does anyone actually buy gf's explanation?

[Cabd]

And also, the delay plus scum daytalk means ahahahahahahahaha coaching/planned freakout

[Cabd]

17. Daytalk is enabled for all factions by default.

Lol, you readin the same thread I am? This was even brought up for notscience's "townslip"

[Cabd]

(Also even if it wasn't mod confirmed I'd assume it by default because natimod is like me in that he values daytalk so he can watch players talk with each other)

[Cabd]

Okay so where does that put us, besides me at confirmed town?

[Cabd]

6 v 2 today
4 v2 MYLO tomorrow....


So we get one mislynch until lylo. Eh. Still worth shooting the fuck out aronis. He would have been mislynch bait. (And I still say he's more antitown than goodfather was)

[Cabd]

6 v 2 today
4 v2 MYLO tomorrow....


So we get one mislynch until lylo. Eh. Still worth shooting the fuck out aronis. He would have been mislynch bait. (And I still say he's more antitown than goodfather was)

[Cabd]

2. Cabd
3. Selkies(fferyllt+orcinus_theoriginal)
4. zMuffinMan
6. notscience
8. Nachomamma8
13. GuyettKatsuki


My bad yeah.

[Cabd]

Not with me confirmed town, no. Not to mention, if they don't have a role blocker, they can't quickhammer tomorrow if we nail it today.

[Cabd]

Shut up notsci, it's fucking MYLO.

[Cabd]

I think the most telling thing tomorrow will be looking at the way people handled the claim of nurse.

[Cabd]

I'm also debating:

nurse, 2shot rolecop, 1shot roleblocker

vs

doc, vig.....

Wow holy shit why isn't there some sort of investigative or something?

The fuck?

[Cabd]

3 town neighbors isn't even pro-town TBQH.

It's just paranoia-inducing.

[Cabd]

10. RossWilliam, Town Vanilla was harpooned to death day one.
5. FourTrouble, Town Vanilla choked on bread night one.
12. Idiotking, Town Neighbor has stoked the fireplace day two.
9. Bert(replacing Karlos4), Town Vanilla diablerized night three.
7. The Goodfather, Mafia Nurse overdosed day four.
1. MafiaSSK, Town Doctor escaped the hellscape night four.
11. Aronis, Town Neighbor was rung out night four.

Thinking...

[Cabd]

Oh and I don't think a team with ffery on it would have role copped me. Maybe.

[Cabd]

So notscience is the entire scumteam voting for you?

[Cabd]

I think its muffin and ns

reasoning?

Because I'm awesome

VOTE: notscience

Vote: Notscience

I too believe in the luck of the Irish.

[Cabd]

Nacho and who?

[Cabd]

I have a cop guilty on you so you should probably just vote me

Pffft.

[Cabd]

That also makes selkies an unlikely partner because lol, saying that on daytalk instead.

[Cabd]

So where are you leaning Cabd?

I'm not answering this until all the non confirmed cards are on the table, TYVM

[Cabd]

at this point there has to be at least one scum in {nacho, notsci, guyett} soooooo

[Cabd]

Ffery's around right now according to sitechat soooooooo

[Cabd]

eh, if it were you and selkies, it'd be okay.

[Cabd]

Like if she thought ahead enough to know i'd both not shoot her AND that i'd townread her when it got out her team rolecopped me i'd be pretty epically amused.

[Cabd]

Not hammering. Not that it matters.

[Cabd]

If muffin scum, notsci town, GG I guess?

[Cabd]

well, muffin checks in then we move on.

[Cabd]

recent posting stats aligned with votes means one of if not two of myself, ns and nacho must be scum

Is there a reason you left selkies out of this?

[Cabd]

Lol k.

[Cabd]

Even if I didn't, I can't stop you~

[Cabd]

Well technically I could hammer first but eh.

[Cabd]

Meh.

If this loses the game then o well.

Anyone have anything to do before i hammer?

[Cabd]

Guyett stop fucking around and at least pretend you care about this game.

[Cabd]

Sigh. Guyett, why are you playing against whatever wincon you have? Do you enjoy ignoring the rules? Is this shit fun for you? Why do you sign up for games like this or that open hydra madness then pull shit like this?

[Cabd]

Now that we're done making noise, anyone have anything CONSTRUCTIVE to say before we move on?

[Cabd]

Nothing you say is constructive, I'm asking people I care about.

[Cabd]

Don't worry nacho I'll try to shoot you tonight if nati decides he was actually telling lies about even night.

[Cabd]

(The funny thing is Hawaii and flordia are still 6 hours apart; had ffery been in cali it would have only been two but nope)

[Cabd]

Ignore the cabd in the background and go on with your life.

[Cabd]

Why? I'll be dead anyways.

[Cabd]

Nope! I've made my preferences clear in my ISO.

[Cabd]

Almost like I said I was gonna hammer once you lot are done.

[Cabd]

Quick.

Hey, notsci I see you lurking thar. Who is the scum on your wagon~?

[Cabd]

I double don't think he's going to risk shooting PRcho because I didn't claim in time.

You double think wrong, for the record.

* goes back to watching with popcorn *

[Cabd]

The funny thing is if notsci is town I can blame the loss on him for being a lazy arse that posted in literally every other game today.

[Cabd]

Quick question guys. Was this staged in advance in the scum QT, or did you two break it out today for fun?

[Cabd]

<3

[Cabd]

My eyes are bleeding.

I know that feel.

[Cabd]

Spoiler: Muffin Exclusive Content

Hey muffin what did you think about this week's KlK or have you not seen it yet?

[Cabd]

Spoiler: Nacho exclusive content

I'm a lazy fucker so sum up your entire position in ONE nice concise reply to this and toss it in a spoiler tag or something with my name on it. You're talking in circles.

[Cabd]

Muffin, what would a scumteam with you on it have done each day/night as far as mislynches/nightkills?

[Cabd]

Muffin, what would a scumteam with you on it have done each day/night as far as mislynches/nightkills?

Actually nacho should answer this too.

[Cabd]

Hey hey notscience. I see you posting literally everywhere else. Come fucking pay.

[Cabd]

I'm well aware he''s obviously scum, but I want to talk to him anyways.

[Cabd]

Gonna self vote, or wanna throw out some wifom first?

[Cabd]

Lol. Do tell.

[Cabd]

If notsci is town, then you're confotowning me AND muffin, sooooooo

[Cabd]

Lol nacho is at L-2 now.

[Cabd]

I guess i'll hammer.

[Cabd]

Huh, first game post with the new avatar, I did a double take for a second there.

[Cabd]

VOTE: notsci

if by some reach he was town, well... fuck him for doing what he did, and congrats scumteam?

[Cabd]

Syr is crying, you horrible bastard.