Mini 1543--Natirasha's On Parole!(Game Over)

[notscience]

Hi

[notscience]

Spoiler: \

Guys. This is a Nat game.

Vote: Natirasha

:goodvotes:

MafiaSSK(1): MafiaSSK

fuckin got em

Seriously, you guys are playing achingly pro-scum so far, regardless of your actual alignment. It's basically 6 pages of meaningless clutter.

*me goes to check his ISO*

Funny man, aren't you.

So. . . I'm going to guess MafiaSSK and FourTrouble are town.

So. . .

[VOTE: zMuffin]

Who the fuck are you and what is this bullshit

So. . . I'm going to guess MafiaSSK and FourTrouble are town.

So. . .

[VOTE: zMuffin]

So how about you describe your reason?

:townposting:

So. . . I'm going to guess MafiaSSK and FourTrouble are town.

So. . .

[VOTE: zMuffin]

So how about you describe your reason?

Seems like a decent vote, either him, Selkies, or Katsuki. They seem the most likely tk be scum. Do you have a better idea?

VOTE: Aronis

Seems like a decent vote, either him, Selkies, or Katsuki. They seem the most likely tk be scum. Do you have a better idea?

rereading, the inclusion of and only of all 3 wagons disturbs me like fuck.

IAWTP

This may be just putting a huge kick me sign on my back, but i looked at rule 6 a lot differently...

It hurts the town worse in my estimation. 13 players,, probably 3 or 4 scum. The burden falls on us as the town to make a decisive lynch, otherwise, we're basically asking natirasha to kill us herself...If, for example, we do not have a majority by the end of this dp, 9/14 times, a townie will be killed (assuming 4 scum).

I'm frankly suprised that i am the only one who sees it that way...

alright, i've said my bit, here you go:

If I turn to the next page and any less than 3 people comment on this being the biggest sack of bullshit ever I'm going to kick a puppy

goodfather probs town.

This is liable to make me kick a puppy.

goodfather probs town

i know why you're saying this but it's not a difficult thing to fake

:townposting:

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aronis

Glad to see my read on you is going to waffle all fucking game. Whoopie.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aronis

Give Aronis a break, Cabd. I'm pretty sure they're new.

If Aronis flips scum we quicklynch the everliving fuck out of SSK.

So. . . I'm going to guess MafiaSSK and FourTrouble are town.

So. . .

[VOTE: zMuffin]

So how about you describe your reason?

Seems like a decent vote, either him, Selkies, or Katsuki. They seem the most likely tk be scum. Do you have a better idea?

Why are muffin, selkie and I scum?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aronis

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aronis

Give Aronis a break, Cabd. I'm pretty sure they're new.

interesting

Cool, Katsuki's town.

[notscience]

Spoiler:

Ok, so let me get my brain sorted here.

So Katsuki said that rule 6 punishes good scumplay, but FourTrouble thinks that Katsuki's scum because of this on the assumption that only scum would say something like that due to knowing more about the setup. This is dumb, because townies would want to play a fair game too. Also, it's kind of clear (at least to me) that no-lynches are more beneficial to scum (because it limits info for the town), so instead allowing for scum to be killed even though they successfully divided the town enough for a no-lynch would be anti-scum. As a townie this would be good for your win-condition, sure, but it'd be unfair, and less fun for everybody. I don't think this is really scummy from FourTrouble, just kind of silly.

Then there's a lot of boring talk between Selkies, MafiaSSK, and Cabd filling the thread.

In post #135 MafiaSSK looks at FourTrouble's (pretty weak) argument against Katsuki based on the rule thing, says "yup, sound's about right" and votes. Sheeping a wee bit, eh?

Post #149, Selkies votes Katsuki without any kind of reason. Selkies also professes a town read on MafiaSSK, again without giving a good reason (this was just after SSK aped FourTrouble). This is a pet peeve of mine, because of how achingly useless it is. Giving reasons when you vote/give reads is kinda important for explaining how you reached those conclusions.

Post #152, Muffin lists a bunch of reads without any, ANY, explanation for why he has them. This bugs me, see above. His Katsuki readi s explained in #163, but still.

#227, Cabd says Goodfather is town, again without explaining why.

#231, SSK again apes Selkies, this time on a muffin vote, again without giving any unique reasoning beyond saying "yup, sounds good."

#233, Cabd votes Aronis, again without explanation (later adding in "oh, I know how young whippersnappers act, you guys, I GET the new generation."; weaksauce bullshit, that.)


#253, Katsuki votes Selkies without giving a reason. GAHHHHRRR


If I missed anything important, feel free to tell me. My patience for rooting through a lot of pointless banter was kinda low.

SO! Since I've got a slew of anti-town no-reason-for-voting players, I'll go with the person who just seems to be aping other people's arguments without producing anything unique to support their votes.

Vote MafiaSSK

Because nothing is more useless than a sheep.

Great policy vote there bucko. Nice IIoA too.

Bert replaces Karlos4.

HI BERT

dsasoaguaroijtaw

I will now strongarm a lynch on anyone who goes after Bert js he's town as holy fuck

Out of the people I'm developing reads on, Aronis and FourTrouble, for what I just said. Aronis for monkeying a confident player, and FourTrouble for waiting for other people to give him the reason for his vote.

I can't ever do anything right, can I?

First post I can see from him with a chance of coming from town-mentality.

----SIGUE: Why is noone scumreading idiotking and I swear to god if the answer is becoz walls I am going to [REDACTED]------

I am trying to blend in. I'm just not used to this style of Mafia and don't want to get lynched d1. I'm just trying to watch what happens for awhile, see others strategies, etc. Then make my moves.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT

bert is scum

he hasn't done anything completely antitown, he hasn't self-voted and he hasn't asked to be lynched

I think you're town but so help me god I will quickwagon your ass if you even try

So, Ross/Muffin/Katsuki scum-team? That makes the most sense, at this point.

If you think Katsuki is scum why did you ever unvote Katsuki >.> Can't tell if stupid town or scum

Hi

Hi. Why aren't you obvtown yet?

BoP don't make me vote you

So, can someo ne tell me why there are no wagons on (Idiotking, Aronis)?

[notscience]

Bert you and I are going to be an ubercool townbloc

k?

k

[notscience]

Katsuki's posts in her catchup were lining up exactly with my train of thought.

[notscience]

VOTE: Aronis

[notscience]

@Four- The posts around there too.

Glad to see you can look at why I townread Katsuki but can't look at why I'm scumreading aronis.

[notscience]

PBPA of his ISO

187- SSK and Four Trouble are town. No elaboration, instead votes muffin without any reason behind it.

203- He lists all 3 main-ish wagons as the most likely to be scum. There's no real sign of trying to figure out anyones alignment.'

228- They've been voted most for a reason. They're just suspicious. He's changing his story and backtracking all over the place

280- Backtracks on 2 of his scumreads (at least), shares no other information, adds nothing to the game.

295- (Side note: Scum have daytalk? Looks like a scumslip imo). Defends himself without adding anything to discuss.

345- When Aronis flips scum I'm coming back to this because it looks like a chainsaw. The entirety of that post is to call Ross null.

353- This kinda looks town, I'll grant that.

391- This looks like a scumclaim imo. He's trying to blend in and do nothing to help so after we lynch his sorry ass we'll have nothing to go on. What's the town motivation for blending in?

602- Votes Selkies when he's said Selkies is suspicious all game, after he unvotes like 300 posts before.

He's hardcore lurking and trying to sit in the background and push popular wagons in an attempt to blend in and survive.

[notscience]

[notscience]

Also who the fuck is kaboom

[notscience]

Selkies you guys realized I'm town yet

[notscience]

Anyone else notice how IK has parked his vote on a PL all day

[notscience]

Cabd after we lynch scum-aronis can we lynch the everliving fuck out of IdiotKing

[notscience]

It's times like this we might have to embrace our inner kuribos.

[notscience]

Cabd what are you thinking of kaboom

[notscience]

Cabd after we lynch scum-aronis can we lynch the everliving fuck out of IdiotKing

no

but remind me to come back to this at a later stage and talk about what i think this means if any of you, aronis or idiotking ever flip scum

So, after we lynch Aronis and he flips scum?

okay.

[notscience]

I'd respond if I wasn't too busy laughing at the stupidity that is post 653

[notscience]

Yo muffin, what do you think of your company on the selkies wagon?

[notscience]

lol

PEDIT

GOD DAMNIT STOP GETTING IN THE WAY OF MY WITTY BANTER

PEDIT

YOU TOO DAMNIT

[notscience]

Why can you get behind an Aronis wagon?

@Aronis, are you going to OMGUS vote every single person who votes you? (with the exception of Cabd)

[notscience]

Ffery what do you think of IdiotKing

[notscience]

Bert talk to me about Katsuki

[notscience]

I actually found the thoughts (albeit scattered) really lined up with how I was thinking at that point of my catchup.

Alignment-wise, gun to your head, what is she?

[notscience]

Bert can you unvote please, I'm really having bad feelings about your company on that wagon.

;-;

[notscience]

Aronis Kaboom and Goodfather

[notscience]

While I can see Four's sentiment, it also goes without saying newbscum is worried about survival first too.

Kaboom's seriously had like 10> posts all game without content yet he's on the leading bandwagon

Goodfather's posts just give me the heebiejeebies, kinda a vibey thing

[notscience]

PBPA of his ISO

187- SSK and Four Trouble are town. No elaboration, instead votes muffin without any reason behind it.

203- He lists all 3 main-ish wagons as the most likely to be scum. There's no real sign of trying to figure out anyones alignment.'

228- They've been voted most for a reason. They're just suspicious. He's changing his story and backtracking all over the place

280- Backtracks on 2 of his scumreads (at least), shares no other information, adds nothing to the game.

295- (Side note: Scum have daytalk? Looks like a scumslip imo). Defends himself without adding anything to discuss.

345- When Aronis flips scum I'm coming back to this because it looks like a chainsaw. The entirety of that post is to call Ross null.

353- This kinda looks town, I'll grant that.

391- This looks like a scumclaim imo. He's trying to blend in and do nothing to help so after we lynch his sorry ass we'll have nothing to go on. What's the town motivation for blending in?

602- Votes Selkies when he's said Selkies is suspicious all game, after he unvotes like 300 posts before.

He's hardcore lurking and trying to sit in the background and push popular wagons in an attempt to blend in and survive.

The narrative you tell doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I don't see what's inherently scummy about trying to "blend in and survive." I think weak players often put more energy as town into surviving instead of finding the scum.

187 and 203 are things both alignments do, all the time.

228 - How is he changing his story? The post looked genuine to me, something town would say.

So it went from they're most likely to be scum to "they're just a bit suspicious" It's kinda like going from a scumread to a 3/4 null 1/4 scum read without any justification. It's like he came under heat and "Oh nah man it's just a nullscum"

280 - There is nothing scummy about changing your opinion. He explains the logic behind his reads, and it looks more like town given his level of competence (clearly not very high).

There was no logic behind his Selkies read yet he avoids voting Selkies altogether. Does competence level imply alignment in your opinion?

295 - We know scum have daytalk cause of the rules. It isn't a scumslip. He further explains his change in opinion, which in retrospect was a very natural and fluid change in opinion.

Oh, missed that. Okay, I can agree on this point.

345 - What do you mean this is a chainsaw defense? To me, this post was pretty town. I don't see scum responding to my request for thoughts on Ross.

Why wouldn't they? By that, I mean pseudo-attacking the person suggesting ross being scum. Hell, Ross's vote on his wagon atm looks most like a bus vote.

353 - Why does this look town?

Self defeatism is becoming a more and more prominent town trait. This post read as genuine frustration.

391 - The town motivation is surviving. He explains it in the post. It makes a lot of sense, given his level of competence.

Again, scum newbies are worried about the SAME thing.

602 - I don't see it persuasive in either direction. It's not a strong post, but his explanation doesn't really look contrived.

It looks kinda contrived to me.

notscience, I have a few more questions for you.

1. Why are 197 and 230 town posts? (zMuffin)

197 isn't one of his posts, which you actually referring to? As for 230, I fully agreed that Cabd was letting him off too easy. See below for my thoughts about aligned thoughts.

2. Why are 255 and 258 town posts? (Katsuki)

Go to her ISO. Any posts within 5 (of non-ISO) in there are posts that matched my thoughts at that point of the game EXACTLY. Same thoughts generally=same alignment, no?

3. Why is idiotking scum? There should be more to your answer than just, "because he's voting SSK." Is there some meta informing your read?

He's parked his vote all day, provided some IIoA walls while doing the bare minimum and parking his vote on a pseudo-PL. No meta, first time I've played with him.

4. What do you think of SSK? Town or scum? If scum, why do you have a problem with idiotking? If town, how does that reconcile with your read on Aronis?

Town, but not as strong as my Bert or muffin or katsuki. Not particularly sure what you mean about the reconciliation.

[notscience]

Spoiler: Inthread mason chat for bert's eyes only

What do you think of inviting Fourtrouble to the townbloc

[notscience]

Bert don't forget Mala's game

[notscience]

kinda sick and forgot about game iwll post someday maybe

When you feel better I want to talk to you

[notscience]

Your next post better be an unvote or a damned good reason (I'm talking trust tell level) for that vote or I'm running you into the dirt.

@Katsuki, the gamestate.

[notscience]

@Katsuki, any ETA for a catchup?

If Selkiescum was really worried about a CW wouldn't they be voting the second largest wagon at the moment?

Also, I'm really feeling good about Bert being town at the moment.

What do you think of the Anoris wagon?

[notscience]

Stop letting scum fill the game with apathy.

For fucks sake I've posted more content than 2or3 people and ive been here 48 hours.

[notscience]

Nacho you have until page 40 to town it up or you don't get an invited to the townbloc

Spoiler: Inthread Mason Talk for Bert's eyes only

Going to need your help on Nacho read, he keeps slipping past me as scum. What do you think of IdiotKing's reads list?

[notscience]

As for pure scumhunting, I use logic tells, POE, and NK analysis mostly. Emotion and tone are only rarely useful to me, because both town and scum are people, and will have emotional responses regardless. They may help gut reads, but since I don't like gut reads for aforementioned reasons, I don't look at them, unless they are "elephant in the room" levels of major.

The emotional reactions and the tone are both different in town vs scum. There are several people who you can catch based on these (I use them for ETL, everyone did for Sakura, people do it for Bert). I use PoE too, but Logic tells don't really work in the current meta. Neither does NK analysis (as much as I wish it did, I fucking love NK analysis)

Does that answer your question?

[notscience]

As for pure scumhunting, I use logic tells, POE, and NK analysis mostly. Emotion and tone are only rarely useful to me, because both town and scum are people, and will have emotional responses regardless. They may help gut reads, but since I don't like gut reads for aforementioned reasons, I don't look at them, unless they are "elephant in the room" levels of major.

The emotional reactions and the tone are both different in town vs scum. There are several people who you can catch based on these (I use them for ETL, everyone did for Sakura, people do it for Bert). I use PoE too, but Logic tells don't really work in the current meta. Neither does NK analysis (as much as I wish it did, I fucking love NK analysis)

Does that answer your question?

Spoiler: Inthread Mason Chat for Bert's eyes only

He has a metric fuckton of nulls and thats coming from me, it gives me the heebie jeebies along with him finally removing his vote after I pointed out it was parked on a PL all day

[notscience]

Spoiler: Inthread Mason chat for Bert's eyes only

Someone doesn't know what "Berts eyes only" means

Heebie jeebies=scumvibes, an off feeling in my gut.

[notscience]

Spoiler: Inthread Neighbour chat for cool people only

I have to check with Bert before I invite you to the mason chat but I'm fine with it

[notscience]

lol

[notscience]

Nacho I want thoughts on Cabd

so I can sheep them because I read cabd wrong in every fucking game

I also agree that IK's last post was townie, but those before it just came off bleh

[notscience]

Spoiler: In Thread Mason Chat for Bert's eyes only

Gun to your head, based on Nacho''s entrance, town or scum? I think one of the 3 neighbors is scum, Aronis/IK in that order.

I need nacho to read Cabd for me

I still feel like Katsuki is really town, this doesn't look like the Katsuki from Anything goes.

Current Townbloc prospects:
Katsuki
Four Trouble
Nacho

What do you think of SSK's disappearance?

Nacho

Why the townread on Selkies?

[notscience]

Nacho

Assuming the general 1 scum on a bus who do you think is the scum bussing Aronis

[notscience]

That said, what if there is no neighborhood and those three are the scum team? it's a genious way to save Aronis from all the attention he was getting. I'm not entirely serious about this, just what if?

I would be okay with a ross lynch for this line alone

[notscience]

Spoiler: ns/bert

Yeah. I feel ross-scum regardless of Aronis's flip.

VOTE: Ross

[notscience]

Hey Cabd

You remember what you told me about my stance on you in FEA?

[notscience]

Hey Cabd

You remember what you told me about my stance on you in FEA?

That burden of proficiency made you a scumfuck? (Because it did)

Moreso how it was the most badly transparently scumfucky read ever.

If I read Ross's scumread on me correctly, he's scumreading me for replacing in.

[notscience]

Spoiler: ns/bert

What do you think of Ross's vote?

[notscience]

Spoiler: Bert

What's troubling is I don't really mention him in my ISO until his response to the Aronis wagon. I think he was trying to bullshit a scumread but I want cabd's opinion.

[notscience]

Spoiler: Bert/notscience

Why haven't you named a scumteam or been tunnely yet this game or shown some wicked confidence...you're holding back - something's wrong

Spoiler: ns/bert

Because I just don't feel confident about my reads this game. It's not one of thoes games where I feel like I'm on it.

This spoiler stuff is getting annoying.

[notscience]

It wouldn't be a day 1 without some Bert paranoia. That pretty much seals my town read. :/

He's been town for pages

[notscience]

Ffery and Cabd- What are your thoughts on Ross's vote?

[notscience]

Notsci hasn't pestered me nearly enough about how obvtown he is.

I could pester you in every single post I make if you'd like that

[notscience]

heh. Why aren't you, though?

I'm making an ubercool townbloc, isn't it implied?

jk, not really sure why not though

[notscience]

Another thing I like about the ross wagon- It's got all townreads on it.

I thought it was weird, he essentially scumread me for replacing in. It's why I asked Cabd- I had such a bullshit read on him/hawk in FEA and that's the first thing that popped into my head regarding his read.

[notscience]

I really didn't mention ross that much when I replaced in though. Maybe a passing comment, but my big thing was Aronis.

[notscience]

Bert I'm more confident in a Ross scumflip :/

[notscience]

[notscience]

Hi

[notscience]

Nacho, muffin in cash cabd?

[notscience]

I still like Katsuki for town.

Something to note- the wagons are tri-voting. (ie they're voting eachother in a triangle). I like Katsuki for town.

[notscience]

I can't read him for shit, but gun to my head town simply because there are too many people I find worse than him.

[notscience]

GF
IK
You (but it's kinda close)
Maybe Selkies

[notscience]

Vote: notscience

sneaky and coasting, Bert is extremely disappointed in your play!

:<

I'll get back to this later

[notscience]

Good!

IK and Muffin I can sorta understand cos they are in a neighborhood - hopefully they are doing their thing up in there

It's really easy to lose motivation giving a lot of the recent posting, not too much to comment on.

What do you think of the current wagons?

[notscience]

Christ shit happened since I last posted I'll catch up and postt when I get to my moms

[notscience]

nacho what do you think of cabd? in 69 posts you haven't mentioned a semblance of a read on him

[notscience]

Tippy lost as jester

Lold

[notscience]

Didn't actually read it, but his reaction to it is interesting.

[notscience]

Bert why do you think I'm scum

Do you want me to cry

[notscience]

Woo something I actually get!

Bert I'll bring you a nice wall when the snowpocalypse hits in a few days and I have all the time in the world

[notscience]

Woo something I actually get!

Bert I'll bring you a nice wall when the snowpocalypse hits in a few days and I have all the time in the world

your lifespan in this game isn't that long sorry

That's okay I'm deathproof anyways

[notscience]

Woo something I actually get!

Bert I'll bring you a nice wall when the snowpocalypse hits in a few days and I have all the time in the world

or you can just sheep me???

Divine for me Cabd's alignment then we'll talk

[notscience]

Bert I'm doing my catchup in an hour

Just skimming SSK's recent ISO I think it sounds legit, depending on something though

More in my catchup

[notscience]

Thoughts on Cabd's claim- It makes me feel town, but I pretty much suck at reading Cabd so :L

Thoughts on SSK- I'm a sucker for AtE flipouts. He was softing kinda hard and now that he's claimed I'm tempted to believe it. That being said, I need to know-

Bert

did SSK do a huge flipout before he fakeclaimed in the one game?

Nacho

Why are you townreading Cabd? (yes I know I have him as a townlean but I'm not really confident in it)

Aronis's recent post makes me think that there's no shot in hell him and Katsuki are a scumteam (why would he post that rather than berate her in the QT?)

I'm not really sure who I want to vote currently. I have as town-

Katsuki
Bert
SSK (depending on Bert's response)

And everyone else is kinda in a pool of townlean-scumlean.

[notscience]

See, that gives me a townfeel. He's normally just there and this is the first time I ever remember seeing genuine emotion from him.

I also kinda get why he's trying this game.

[notscience]

Question marks are amazing????

[notscience]

Why are we wagonning SSK again?

[notscience]

Wagoned?

um, I'm not really sure. I'm trying to townbloc this game because the way my reads have been rolling around I've got too much in the scummy category

Why isnt x dead yet?

See above

[notscience]

Guyett, I'm town and SSK feels town and is a bad vote.

You're town, congratz.

[notscience]

Because I've had Katsuki as one of my top townreads all game because she wasn't playing to her scum meta?

[notscience]

Bert's town too

[notscience]

It's a 3 man neighborhood, of course that thought has been b rought up. I'm pretty sure we decided to let them sort it out among themselves.

[notscience]

Whos scum NS?

People not in that pool.

Probably 1/3 of the neighbors, 2/3 doesn't seem likely

but then again bastard mod

I'm more worried about finding town, because I keep fucking up when I try to find scum.

pedit-

Don't act like that's any surprise, Katsuki was obviously town before you all forced a ragequit

pedit2-

Bert stawp we get it you're town

[notscience]

Not sure, I kinda agree with the notion re:Nacho.

[notscience]

Bite me

o/

It's mostly based on IK's Day one stances and the way he approached it just being awkward

Nacho can be town

VOTE: IK

WAGON HO

[notscience]

The fuck does Slog mean

[notscience]

I'm going to be bugged if he does

[notscience]

I have a hunch that notsci is with IK but that'll wait for tomorrow when I have more time to sort through old posts

But I'm bussing him for towncred!

[notscience]

Notsci you could have defended me when that guy called me a scum and retard with learning problems lol

I wasn't aware you needed defending from the temper tantrum

I'm trying to figure out why muffin would profess a scumread on you with so many others townreading you

[notscience]

Wasn't it obvious we aren't lol

And you saw where voting the mod got SSK

pedit-

AHHHH yeah it's just like lolwhatever let him throw a fit if he wants

Why the selkies vote?

[notscience]

bite me is pretty much idgaf

[notscience]

WE ALREADY HAVE A HYDRA

WE HAVE TWO

LOL

[notscience]

There's about a -50% chance bert's scum

[notscience]

VOTE: Aronis

[notscience]

bc I posted something I didn't mean to and deleted it,

I don't care if he cleared it with Nati.

That's a fucking scumslip.

[notscience]

Was he scum?

[notscience]

I'm just not sure.

I really think it's ascumslip but if town did it :s

[notscience]

Moreso the act altogether,

[notscience]

[unvote[/unvote]

Then nevermind.

[notscience]

Because it's better for you to inform us than them?

[notscience]

And here I am leaning Aronis again

Ditto.

[notscience]

Nominate Bert for Town Leader

[notscience]

Ross is harder to mislynch than Aronis, so I can understand why you (or notscience if scum) would opt (optimally) for Ross at the end of D1 yesterday.

like notscience-scum gives two fucks who he lynches

yoloswagforjeezus, remember

[notscience]

VOTE: selkies

This is 100% without a doubt a spite vote and a sheeping of bert

[notscience]

L-1 btw

[notscience]

I think comically scummy would make an amazing title

[notscience]

notty if you rly are town and wanna discuss reads in depth i am in the mood where i will give it a go <3

We never discussed this and you said you only voted Selkies as a sheep vote.

GF
IK
You (but it's kinda close)
Maybe Selkies

Whose reasoning in this group has been the most sketchy? Probably GF, but he is claiming to be a newbie.

And that's part of what's bugging me. It's just a vibe I'm getting, I don't feel newbtown like I should be.

IK's posts have been toned in much the same way (same two scumreads, sticking with them)...his feeding us new content is sorta stagnant at this point. I do however find his playstyle moderately hard to read.

Yeah. I don't like his D1 play (I've said this before) and the sticking to similar scumreads bit is kinda true of me (IK has been consistent). imo the scum in the neighborhood it's him or Aronis.

Selkies is the type that really seems to strive to get the most out of the meta of players. Ffery can get really detailed, and the work can be super intensive. But for some reason in this game I don't see her motives transparently. She doesn't seem to be playing really loosely either...

I don't even want to attempt to read ffery so I'm deferring this to others (namely Cabd).

I've been looking at how GF reacts to suspicion, and it's playing the newbie card. But it's in a toned-down manner to which he responds, which kinda gives me heebie jeebies at times. I don't see much confidence in GF's game play.

Sounds kinda like defeatism which is more a towntell unless we're talking about ffery but anyways I'm kinda waffling on this read.

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I'm also not touching a nacho read with a 20 foot stick anymore

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Cabd's been implying you-scum in his posts and Bert asked me for my vote

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Scumdoc, town nurse, town vig.... Sounds utterly like something nati would do.

What the hell, Cabd? I'm scum? Why, exactly?

your role pm reads scum

I dunno, that claim kinda makes sense in retrospect from GF.

:s

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Didn't you guys fakeclaim nurse in 1509?

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Okay. I want both nacho and muffin to give a bigger "full picture" set of thoughts here.

Guyett's slot may have towned, but red wine gave me a lesson on obvtowning replacements making you ignore scummy new tenants.

um

what

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Katsuki wasn't playing to her scum meta lol

Then again, Sakura >.>

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VOTE: IK

And if Cabd vengekills bert I'm

using my N3 vig on him

pushing a lynch on him tomorrow

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lol

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Holy shit bert actually might have rolled scum here.

nope.jpeg

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Cabd if you vig from this wagon we're going to have words tomorrow because I'm townreading everyone on the wagon but Nacho.

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UNVOTE:

Only for that reason.

It's getting put back at midnight EST.

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I give this dance a solid 2.

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Is it bad I'm townreading everyone who's claimed an actual pr so far?

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Nah I'm going to be Anti-town and put it off until after nightphase so I can discuss my fakeclaim with my buddy

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Spyrex was a 1-shot BP SK in pitoli's mini

HE pretended he was vig but noone cared

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...Fucking lol.

{aronis/notsci/???}

you can bite me after you apologize for trying to vig my townbloc

Until then you just sit there doing your "dance"

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I'm a vt

I'm still waiting on that apology btw

VOTE: ik

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I don't see why people are disbelieving SSK's claim

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yeah, it's IK or NL. That whole "oh he's MIA at DL" is bullshit given Nacho's sitewide activity or lack thereof

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Nacho's been inactive during the weeks due to IRL stuff, ask Ffery, Cabd, Bert, etc.

And if Cabd touches a hair on Bert's head I'm running him into the ground no questions asked.

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And if Cabd touches a hair on Bert's head I'm running him into the ground no questions asked.

I'd also selfvote but only temporarily I'd be a bit busy

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The fuck is this nacho vote

Are you guys town

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I'll fucking lol if we get stuck on a randshot and it hits cabd

pedit

Nacho I don't want to vote you but you need to give me something

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You too notsci. Fucking claim.

I'm still waiting for your fucking apology

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And if Cabd touches a hair on Bert's head I'm running him into the ground no questions asked.

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And if Cabd touches a hair on Bert's head I'm

running him into the ground

making 100% sure he swings tomorrow no questions asked.

Fixed that for me.

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Because you'd be shooting obvious-fucking town with experience with most of the playerlist who usually has really good reads?

Because you'll swing tomorrow if you shoot obvious-fucking-town over ANYONE with an actual chance of flipping scum?

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I know that and all but regardless his ISO si bleeding town and he should at least get until his first post tomorrow to claim

Like seriously

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If Nacho swings IK.

If IK flips scum Goodfather/Selkies (depending on your read because let's be honest I'm not allowed to read ffery anymore)

Town by

mod error

then Aronis

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VOTE: Nacho

L-1

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If Nacho swings IK.

Regardless of his flip? Interesting.

I'm sorry, last I checked I've been going for a IK lynch and we're instead DL compromising on Nacho.

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Right but nacho's flipping scum/town affects your opinion on who to vig not at all?

Last minute bus by both of them not possible?

Nacho being the CW to scum-IK not possible?

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HA YES YOU CANT PL SHOOT BERT NOW

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Quickwagon IK?

Y/Y?

VOTE: IK

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Nacho- who cares

IK- too damn few

there's your VC

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Cabd pick a wagon

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Cabd I have a theory

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I'm listening.

If SSK is a scumdoc, he could have blocked his teammate while pulling a NK gambit to try and confirm himself, and your shot hit whoever he was protecting

thoughts?

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notty I don't understand why Selkies isn't reading you as strong town

Me neither

I also agree with nacho's above post

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My paranoia still leads to the theory I mentioned earlier though

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*insert mastin gambit here about Katsuki's slot*

Also is this some bs BoP scumread

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*insert mastin gambit here about Katsuki's slot*

Also is this some bs BoP scumread

Is this addressed to me? What scumread?

Lack of a strong townread rather.

*insert mastin gambit here about Katsuki's slot*

Also is this some bs BoP scumread

No, it's me weighing the replace out townread less thanks to deviousness.

It's not even the replace out why I'm townreading the slot

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Why are you town reading the slot?

This isn't the scum-Katsuki from Anything goes. IT feels NOTHING like she did there.

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Yeah folks

jesus

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NACHO YOU CAN BITE ME

Ask ffery, I'm pretty sure I hit on what I do regarding (you, her, Cabd, giffy, Nati) in 1526

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Ask ffery, I'm pretty sure I hit on what I do regarding (you, her, Cabd, giffy, Nati) in 1526

already did

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I seriously explained it in 1426 lol

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Basically I presume under the assumption you're town unless I get really bad nargles about something

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VOTE: Cabd

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You all know you want to join us

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you should help me lynch cabd before the votes come back

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Anyone who doesn't vote cabd in their next post is claiming scum

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I'll be back tomorrow

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BERT

I WILL POST TOMORROW

THIS I SWEAR

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I kinda slept in until 2 then orgot this game was a thing

WHAT SHALL WE TALK ABOUT

I want to know what you think of nacho

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VOTE: Aronis

Lets lynch this

I translated 2841 to english it said

"I am scum. Kill me."

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Bert

He literally just tried to make you promise never to vote him

So then he can take you to lylo/mylo and use you to get a ML

Like what the fuck

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I've been busy with guests and errands and overgamed

/rl excuse scumtell

/beetlejuice

Back latah

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I'll be here tonight hopefully

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List of people who can fuck off: nacho, ffery

List of people who try to imitate my townbloc and included themself and a scumbud: Nacho, Aronis

List of people I'm making swing today: Nacho, Nacho

VOTE: Nacho

List of people I'm OMGUSing this post: Nacho, ffery, aronis

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Nacho's too busy tunneling me he'll call you back later after I flip town with the generic scum "oh man I was so sure"

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You should move that vote to a lynch that'll actually happen today

like (nacho, nacho, nacho)

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NACHO DONT YOU FUCKING IGNORE ME MAN UP AND GIVE ME A FUCKING REASON YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO CALL ME SCUM

OR IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, BUS YOUR BUDDY ARONIS/SELFVOTE

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Cabd let me answer your question in two words

He's scum

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HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW

YOU JUST WALTZ IN HERE TRYING TO SLIDE IN A BULLSHIT TOWNBLOCK AND CALLING ME SCUM

WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SCUM TRIES TO MISLYNCH TOWN NOTSCI

PEDIT

THATS BECAUSE YOUR ROLE PM SAYS YOU HAVE TO

PEDIT BECAUSE YOUVE BEEN SAYING NOTSCI SCUM FOR FUCKING PAGES AND IM FUCKING SICK OF IT

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I MEAN PAGES

ILL HIT YOUR ISO BUTTON IN A BIT TO FIND THE FIRST MENTION BUT ITS BEEN PAGES

PEDIT GOD DAMNIT

VOTE: Aronis

STOP MAKING ME GO BACK AND FORTH

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NACHO PUT YOUR VOTE BACK ON ARONIS

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SSK wasn't in troll mode around the time he claimed

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Bert I want an apology for joining the reject townbloc

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Me, Bert, Guyett, and FT was (RIP),

SSK and Cabd are both kinda in given their claims

Muffin is like tier 3 and you could potentially be in a tier 2.5 I dunno I'm back and forth

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YOURE LURKERSCUM DAMMIT

My sitewide activity has been kinda bleh all week >.>

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yeah no he's lurkerscum until he apologizes to me

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nice vote lurkerscum

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only 11 hours left people

VOTE: Selkies

would prefer a notscience lynch today but not enough time

You can cut the shit, you're coasting on Katsuki's towniness.

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dodge until

D5

tomorrow

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Hi

I'm here to give 1/11th a fuck

I am willing to vote Aronis but I think it's L-1, don't want him to selfhammer before we can all chat and sing kumbaya

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VOTE: Aronis

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VOTE: Goodfather

L-1

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lol

hit me with your best shot

But, you have to promise me something

My townflip means you leave my fucking townbloc alone

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ISO buttons are marvelous things

Why would I make your life any easier when you've decided you're going to shoot me? Do it yourself

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Should I vote GF now? Or wait?

Putting a confirmed scum at L-1 when there's shit to talk about is a bad move

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Why aren't you lusting for my blood anymore?

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Why aren't you lusting for my blood anymore?

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Yo, guyett, quick question.

Why are you doing VCA if scum have daytalk? Doesn't daytalk usually fuck around with the vote scheme?

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Yo, guyett, quick question.

Why are you doing VCA if scum have daytalk? Doesn't daytalk usually fuck around with the vote scheme?

do you honestly expect me to think the ross wagon was all town?

Meh.

I dunno, I kinda do.

Granted, I can't read ffery for shit. So.

It seemed like a pseudo-PL if I remember correctly, don't scum usually WK the fuck out of them?

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That actually reminds me

Why did you put GF at L-1 without saying anything nacho

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There's only one person voting me

...

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Oh

Guyett's town.

I'm leaning Nacho scum.

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Katsuki.

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