Open 10 -- C9: Game Over! - before 400

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/confirm.

C9 setup: Maybe 1 cop, maybe 1 doc, 2 scum?

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Cool. I'm getting better at this setup, I used to get lynched D1 when I was cop all the time.

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Mod: Can you please post a player list? Thanks.

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Really? Which one was it?

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It's been 3 days since the thread opened, which is >48 hours. May I request a prod please so the game can get started?

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I pmed the mod and he didn't pick up my pm. I'll post this in open thread.

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CDB

Because your sock puppet told me to.

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Ah crap.

vote: CDB

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Hi Glork!

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unvote

Isn't it a little too early to put someone at -1 when we're on page 2?!

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La di da. Nothing has happened I see.

Mod: VC please?

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unvote, vote CES

Here's a -2!

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unvote, vote CDB

Refer to Mafia 60 for exactly why. Around 5 pages of arguments or so.

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Clarification: I meant why an IC suggesting no lynch is scummy.

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FOS: IH.

I totally didn't understand his post, which is very un-IH. It smells to me like an excuse to vote Ripley. I don't think discussion is a scum-tell, it's lurking/non-commitalness which is a scum-tell.

Ripley: I didn't realise you were Ripley because you changed your avatar.

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Hmm yeah weird move by IH. Not necessarily scummy as I usually see IH in my minds eye going for the easier targets as scum

Possibly wifomish. (Only possibly though, I agree that IH scum could choose easier targets.)

Actually I've seen this in other games lately, IH making posts that are hard to understand and being wildly incoherent and voting for what seem like absurd reasons, and in one at least he turned out to be town.

Metagaming. I don't think IH can be metagamed. I've played many games with him and I can't say he has a consistent playstyle.

Clarification: Just pointing out flaws in the argument here, I don't really think IH is that scummy at the moment.

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I get where the 2 of you are coming from. I still disagree. I am not referring only to the newbie game. Probably the difference is I've played with IH in almost every game he's played here, and I've seen him as town, as scum, and as a whole lot of other roles. If I remember correctly, we've also been scum buddies/masons or some kind of 'group' roles. I take notes on players I've played more than a handful of games with, and he's inconsistent.

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I'm not telling. It might affect the way you play in future. I don't use metagaming solely as a reason to attack or defend, but it helps me quite a bit in endgame. You do feature quite a bit in my notes though, along with Zindaras and IH.

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I totally didn't understand his post, which is very un-IH.

Just thought I'd clarify this. This has nothing to do with playstyle or whatever. This has to do with IH being a long poster, and me having a headache reading his posts.

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*pokes*

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unvote

I think it's a little too early to put someone at -1 at this point in time. Also, my main reason for voting (no lynch) has been satisfactorily explained by CDB.

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I'm back. Got hit by dumb CPU error again this evening.

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I'm senting a tentative deadline for

Saturday, February 24, at 10:30 AM EST

. This deadline will be extended if activity picks up and/or if enough players request an extension.

More than 2 days away.

Prelim FOS: CES.

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2.I'm pretty sure that you took SV's answer the wrong way.... Usually someone doesn't hammer until they're two days away from Deadline at least.

QFT.

I'm still unhappy with CES's hammer, and I'd like more evidence that CES is a 100% lynch all claimed docs person.

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Interesting avatar.

I'll buy the CES lynching claimed-doc bit for now.

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I buy CDB's claim, because it's testable, and he wasn't under a lot of pressure when he claimed.

What's the case for me?

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I don't think IH and Ripley are a scum group.

The only thing I've said about IH is I didn't understand his posts. The only thing I said about Ripley is that meta-gaming = bad. Where did you get this idea from?

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Oh. I know... I forgot CDB's claim and your innocence.

I need to go do a read then.

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Nope, I still buy the claim. Testable claims = good. Contrary to what Ripley said, I've never doubted it. The confusion arose because I thought CES was saying I'd presented a case for an IH/Ripley scum group (178), so I clarified to say I hadn't. My posts were also only a minute apart because I skimmed through the previous pages to refresh my memory.

Complete wifoming here, but scum would probably have unloaded the heavy guns on either IH or Ripley, since the 3 of us are on the hot seat.

I'll do a PBPA on the 2 sometime tomorrow.

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It's an innocent townie mistake.

I don't think IH and Ripley are a scum group.

The only thing I've said about IH is I didn't understand his posts. The only thing I said about Ripley is that meta-gaming = bad. Where did you get this idea from?

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Oh. I know... I forgot CDB's claim and your innocence.

I need to go do a read then.

1.35 am.

Again, I reiterate that the posts were only 1 min apart. I took a reread of the thread since we're in lyol. I still buy the claim.

Note that Ripley's 90% 10% assessment is rather obviously heavily weighted in his favour. Since I've stated believe the claim, he'll have a hard time convincing me to disbelieve it (I believe that's where he's 'backtracking' bit comes from.) So he has no choice but to go after SV/IH scumpair.

I'll go do a PBPA on IH then since CDB and IH have already promised a PBPA on Ripley and have yet to deliver.

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vote: SV

All the best CES!

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SV's ghost has spoken. Well played, Ripley.

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I was serious.

I'd say scum screwed up this game. Scum meaning me. But seriously, I've made the same mistake as town before.

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I seriously owe IH an apology. Sorry IH!!! Our first game together as scum and I had to go screw it up!