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Yeah it's because you were scum last game. I hadn't noticed that we were particularly out of the random/joking stage yet, particularly judging by the last 2 posts. I might reread it all soon and see if there is anything to talk about.Primpod 11:13 pm
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WTF Romanus?? You are actually taking this seriously? Has it occurred to you that we're just messing around?
Since you put up some points i'll answer though;
1. How good you were as mafia could be debated
2. Being good as mafia in no way means you have to be good as town. Many players specialise in one and not the other.Primpod 11:13 pm
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lol Romanus.. you know that thing Rathyr said that is in your sig? It's completely true 8)
Your sure that myself and spectrumvoid are town?This is not a role claim, just a good guy claim. Keep an eye on me, yes. I expect nothing less, but don't dismiss a player that you know can do you some good if he is on your side,and this time I am.Primpod 11:13 pm
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WIFOMPatrick, I think we all know how to play this game to some extent. Do you think that I would go along with my scum partner just like that from the start? Normally people aren't that obvious, otherwise they're just plain stupid.Primpod 11:13 pm
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Can we get Kurtz replaced or something?
Lumos is scummiest so far, closely followed by Romanus. He jumps on the wagon when Rosso tells him to, then he gives me some WIFOM for why he shouldn't be scum. I don't like his last post either. If he's town he should not be giving up like that.
I don't think Lumos could be scum with Romanus, though I could see a Rosso/Romanus connection. Rosso barges in like a bull in a china shop (yeah i know, aggressive playstyle) but in the very same post where he attacks Romanus he also puts Lumos in a tough spot;
So basically Lumos has the choice between not voting Romanus, and being accused of being his scumbuddy or voting Romanus and getting pwned for it as is happening now. This could be Rosso distancing himself from Romanus but at the same time setting up another target to attack. Or it could just be Rosso trying to look town. He is all buddy buddy with Romanus now.Lumos, pretty sure that your no voting and such, but still trying to keep on romanus' back is protecting your scum buddy. Bad idea all around, yeah.
We need the spectators to start posting some content. Otherwise too easy for scum to sit back and watch this.Primpod 11:13 pm
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I'm assuming you mean me since I made the connection. Either point out the flaw in the logic or don't call it craplogic.People, plz dont use craplogic like that, its in bad taste.
As for Romanus, I'm getting the same vibes. It might be the way he always plays. If I have time I might look for a game where he's known town and see if there's any difference.Primpod 11:13 pm
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I see what you mean about not much. First game you were unlucky and got speedlynched by a load of noobs. Second game you were thrown into a difficult situation, not to mention that was the first game you ever played. So not much to judge on. NM we'll see what happens here.Primpod 11:13 pm
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All I saw from you this game, Mike, was just banter with Anix. It didn't really add much, unless you have some real reason for suspecting Anix.
Romanus you are so predictable man. Is it demanding to ask ppl to post content in a game of mafia.Primpod 11:13 pm
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I agree with Kurtz about Anix. Anix is hardly contributing to this game. Maybe page 1 or 2 it was funny. But the game started a while back. I think Romanus stretched to find someone else to be suspicious of. Whether this is scummy stretching or a townie stretching I don't know. OK Kurtz came in rather overaggressively but I think his point was basically sound.
I didn't like this too much though:
Bloodthirsty. If Lumos is just chucking in the towel I would rather replace instead of lynching now just to get rid of her. We have time. And we have ppl who still need to say something. I agree Lumos is scummy, but I can easily see a scenario where a newbie player enters a mini containing some more experienced players, gets bandwagoned early and decides she'll never get out of it and just wants out. As town or as scum.Anyway, at your advice, I would like to get to the core matter of the game: lynching Lumos.Primpod 11:13 pm
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No you're not. You tried it on me last game. Well actually you tried all sorts, but eventually you settled for telling me that I looked pro town when I was attacking you. It could have been more reasonable that time because there was a lot of past material to judge whether I was pro town or not. But here as MBF said, he hasn't done much for you to think he's particularly pro town. So this can easily be seen as buddying up.Buddying up my ass. I'm much smarter than that crap.
I know what you're saying about rogue. A lurker hunt is often something scum do when they can't think of anyone to be 'suspicious' of. I also want to hear from Max and Anix. I agree we shouldn't just drop everything and wait for them. But still hoping they'll start posting.Primpod 11:13 pm
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That is really strange. MBF makes makes a joke vote to 'fakelynch' Anix. I really have no idea how Romanus would see that as pro town.
To some degree you might. But buddying up or at least trying to soften someone up by calling them pro town for no good reason doesn't seem like a very town tactic to me.Patrick, I am also well aware of the methods I used in another game. The problem is that I am going to use the same tactics no matter what my role is, to some degree. I know you are going to be suspicious of me and keep an eye on me, that is fine, just don't get too trigger happy.Unvote, Vote: RomanusPrimpod 11:13 pm
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I don't like this defence. It could be applied to anything anybody ever does that is scummy. 'Hey guys, my actions have generated lots of discussion which is obviously a pro town thing.' It is very easy for someone to say they were just testing for reactions. Here's another problem. When accused of buddying up to mike you actually denied it saying you're much too clever for that crap. Now it seems you admit you were, but insist this is good because it will create lots of discussion. Well I'll agree on one thing, if you're scum then this discussion is good.Also, I am not trying to duck and hide from any of this. I would say that my behavior has caused more real game discussion than anyone else. This is one of the main reasons for acting the way I am.
This doesn't seem like unusual behaviour for a scum. Like I said before, telling the guy who is leading the charge that he is pro town is a common scum tactic. Attacking Lumos then defending her is also not that surprising. You're not exactly the only one having second thoughts about lynching Lumos or at least about lynching her straight away.Here comes the WIFOM:
Would a scum put on a show like this, doing admittedly strange things, attacking Lumos then defending her, saying that the guy leading the charge against him is most likely town. Like I said, WIFOM, but there it is anyway.Primpod 11:13 pm
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I don't know why ppl want to end the day now. We have hardly heard from Max or Anix. I can honestly see no disadvantage in discussing. If we want to lynch Romanus, he'll still be here after a few more pages.
Look at the votecount. Does it look as if we all agree that Romanus is scum? CTD the last post you made with any content was 161 I think. In that post you had a go at Lumos, and also said you were suspicious of Kurtz. Kurtz hasn't replied to that. Yet you're still eager to end the day now?If we all agree that Romanus is scum (I'm getting more convinced with every post he makes), why aren't we lynching him?Primpod 11:13 pm
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Interesting that Rosso is trying to keep Romanus alive by pushing for a Lumos lynch.
A whole lot of scum? Like who? Vote hopping isn't the only thing against Romanus.The kidster gives off some bad vibes, but I'm personally neutral on him. The tough thing is in that there seem to be a whole lot of scum on his wagon taking advantage of craplogic like vote-hopping. =/ IGMEO anyone whos joined late {that means probably not MBF}
@Mike I know what you're saying but how are we supposed to tell if these two are scum if they don't say anything. Do we wait until day 3 before we start wondering about this? Genuine question. I've not played with anyone quite like Anix before.Primpod 11:13 pm
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Interesting. Romanus is claiming some powerole not announced by the mod. I have no clue why Kurtz assumed Romanus isn't the doctor.
I don't know yet whether or not I believe Romanus. The setup seemed pretty open and clear cut to me. It is possible Romanus is just lying completely to try and confuse us. He claims a powerole but doesn't tell us what it is so no risk of a counterclaim. He also claims his role wasn't listed at the start. Convenient again, because if he's scum, he's not going to be counterclaimed with a possibly made up role. There is also the fact that poweroles don't tend to play unusually/erratically. They have an incentive to stay hidden. By claiming some powerole, Romanus has painted a bullseye on his own head if he's town.
What does everyone else think?Primpod 11:13 pm
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UnvoteNow that the mod has told us other roles exist, Romanus is much more likely to be innocent. I'm happy to give him a night and see what he can do. I'll have a reread after work and see if I can find a good place for my vote.Primpod 11:13 pm
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I've lost track of how many votes Anix has. It strikes me that although he is annoying, if this is his usual playstyle then lynching him is like a stab in the dark. Anix, do us all a favour and say something relevant.
Lumos could still be a better lynch.Primpod 11:13 pm
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Basically Anix is still talking pish. I'de love to vote him if I thought he were scum.
Lumos maybe you need to read the part where Romanus claims a powerole not mentioned at the start, then the mod confirms that these exist. It doesn't clear him but helps his case, and i'm happy to give him a night and see what he does.Primpod 11:13 pm
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This is cool. You must have an amazing powerole I dunno how you can be so sure when he's said next to nothing.Which, since I am fairly sure I won't be lynched today, and am pretty sure that anix is scum, I don't feel the need to comment on.
While i'm half tempted to vote anix out of annoyance, I still think it's rather a shot in the dark if he is just playing same way as usual. If we're lynching ppl for being unhelpful, Lumos fits the bill pretty well, and she's done a few scummy things to boot.Primpod 11:13 pm
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You want to keep Lumos around because she is an easy lynch for later? OoI'd rather keep Lumos, since we can always lynch her later. It'll be easier to decide to lynch her then since she's already emitted some scummy vibes. (Notice I said VIBES, nope, it isn't definite.)Primpod 11:13 pm
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Spectrumvoid, your posts seem to say that you don't understand why ppl are voting you. Here's my take on it:
Possible translation: I am scum, and I want to lynch an innocent. Lumos is a relatively easy lynch for me later on so I want to keep her around. This is why you've been looking around for other lynches. You saw a chance with anix and took it. Do you understand my reason now?I'd rather keep Lumos, since we can always lynch her later. It'll be easier to decide to lynch her then since she's already emitted some scummy vibes. (Notice I said VIBES, nope, it isn't definite.)
I think that question is answered now.I'm not sure if this is a valid defence, but if I was scum, wouldn't I have pushed for Lumos's lynch, instead of away from it?
I can't decide whether Kurtz is scummy or being an impulsive and overaggressive town player.Primpod 11:13 pm
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For my part I suspect mainly spectrumvoid for her incredibly scummy line. I also slightly suspect CTD who was one of the players who jumped on the Anix bandwagon without giving a reason. He blends in quite well so i'll be watching him.Primpod 11:13 pm
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I agree with CTD about this, and I don't think it should be revealed.CTD: Care to explain why lynching Kurtz isn't a good idea today?
Just a thought I had, should we get a full role claim out of Romanus? I can't think of a drawback because if he is town, he is already a prime NK target anyway. So maybe we should try and confirm him by having his exact role? I'm not fishing but just wondering if this is a good idea. If there's some reason not to, then Romanus is it possible that you will be able to confirm yourself tomorrow?Primpod 11:13 pm
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You know, I can kind of see where Romanus was coming from now with his little gut suspicion of rogue
This is wishy washy. This would not be claiming for the sake of claiming. This would be claiming to help confirm Romanus, because atm he could be scum just saying he has a powerole. Not all that likely but possible. By getting a claim now, we force him to commit himself, so if he is scum faking, he is more likely to be countered. How does this 'only help scum find poweroles?' If Romanus is town, the scum already know he has a powerole. A full claim doesn't make him any more vulnerable. I don't understand your reasoning. The way you're also trying to steer things towards Anix again is noted. I also agree with Romanus's post 351.I don't think a claim from Romanus is necessary at this point. Claiming for the sake of claiming only helps scum find the power roles, and the town wouldn't really benefit from the information at this point. Today isn't the right time to turn our attention back to Romanus, IMHO.
@Romanus, I have no idea what your role could be, but I'm not going to press it if you don't want to full claim. I'm happy to give you some slack. I was just putting it out as a possibility.Primpod 11:13 pm
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