Mini 1276 - Village for 13 - Over!!

enomis · Post Post #31 (isolation #0) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:20 pm

In post 23, Viscera Link wrote:Why is this Hiraki? Why do we 'actually need to die'?

Too many whys? Scum.
VOTE: Viscera Link

enomis · Post Post #36 (isolation #1) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:33 pm

In post 35, Parama wrote:Why would a townie vote themselves with no provocation? It's counterproductive to RVS.
Scum do it because "well a townie would do this right? And this way I don't have to put out any opinions! Yay!"

Agree with you.
UNVOTE: Viscera Link
VOTE: Norman

enomis · Post Post #39 (isolation #2) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:46 pm

In post 37, Norman wrote:Lol.

Seriously? Thats all you can say? Parama, lets buddy up here and lynch him. All other towns, SHEEP us. Lets go.

enomis · Post Post #41 (isolation #3) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:49 pm

In post 40, Viscera Link wrote:Arguably, it's RVS...and his number has just as high a chance as ending up RNG'd as anyone else.

His wagon does NOT get our support. So let it be written.

...but so help me if he tries this shit at L-2.

No look here. We need to get out of RVS at some point. The time is now. Sheep me. This lol thing doesnt work even at RVS stage.

enomis · Post Post #44 (isolation #4) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:05 pm

In post 43, ScreamingHawk wrote:lol works fine. What's wrong with a self vote at RVS. Calm down. I think discussing mafia strategy is scum early on. Also a this is something town would do so I should do this. Also it's coaching mafia even if you aren't yourselves so it's just stupid.

But your right about RVS needing to end.

VOTE: Norman

But don't expect that to stick.

Also it's coaching mafia even if you aren't yourselves so it's just stupid.

What does this mean?^^^^

Also i am calm right now.

enomis · Post Post #45 (isolation #5) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:06 pm

And you are trying to do what town should do? Trying to be town--> Scum.

enomis · Post Post #47 (isolation #6) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:14 pm

In post 46, ScreamingHawk wrote:
In post 44, enomis wrote:
Also it's coaching mafia even if you aren't yourselves so it's just stupid.

What does this mean?^^^^

Also i am calm right now.

This was in relation to this.

In post 11, Parama wrote:Camn is definitely the best lynch to push D1, she's most experienced and dangerous. After that we NK Hiraki 'cause he can read me, which leaves us with mostly newbies to deal with afterwards. If need be we claim masons together - works every time.

And the trying to do what a towny would do was requoting Parama as well

What i dont understand what you are talking about..... What was in relation to what. And how is that requoting parama.

enomis · Post Post #49 (isolation #7) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:17 pm

In post 48, monk wrote:

Vote Count appears to be required

Vote Count 1.2

Norman (4) - Norman, Parama, enomis, ScreamingHawk
camn (1) - don_johnson
Hiraki (1) - Viscera Link
ScreamingHawk (1) - Gen_Wolf
don_johnson (1) - el simo
Viscera Link (1) - hiraki

Not Voting (13) - don_johnson, Hiraki, Norman, ScreamingHawk, Gen_Wolf, el simo, Parama, Spartan_N30, Viscera Link, enomis, Elmo TeH AzN, Draken, camn

With 13 alive it takes 7 to Lynch

Deadline

V/LA: el simo till Sunday

@monk
the not votinglist should be changed.

Already done

enomis · Post Post #51 (isolation #8) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:30 pm

In post 50, ScreamingHawk wrote:Is this what you were struggling to understand?

Coaching: Train or instruct (a team or player)

By saying what to do as scum, even as a joke (something a townie would do, harr harr) then you are instructing scum. Not the best thing for the rest of town. Get it? Or want it explained in even more detail?

fine i get it now.

enomis · Post Post #52 (isolation #9) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:33 pm

Anyway, why did you mention the point of coaching? Do you mean that norman is under coaching now?

enomis · Post Post #56 (isolation #10) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:19 pm

In post 53, Norman wrote:Well it looks like my days are over. See y'all in Hell.

Still continue trolling? seriously? just lynch him.

enomis · Post Post #59 (isolation #11) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:25 pm

In post 55, ScreamingHawk wrote:
In post 53, Norman wrote:Well it looks like my days are over. See y'all in Hell.

Ok I'm starting to second guess. (Come back to my points later). Votes this way please.

You look liek you are explaining your actions too much like not sticking your vote on him transitioning to second guess. I know this is a logical transition but you are explaining yourself too much here. --> scum.

2scum caught.
Norman/Screaming Hawk.

enomis · Post Post #60 (isolation #12) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:25 pm

In post 58, Norman wrote:Yaaaay. I love the choo-choo train.

Hey town. Sheep me. See if he still continues this.

enomis · Post Post #62 (isolation #13) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:33 pm

In post 61, ScreamingHawk wrote:We are only on page 3 so hardly any of my votes / comments are going to be backed up at this point.

Hey Norman, can you link me to some past games of yours where you are scum?
Cheers,

No. you are scum.

enomis · Post Post #65 (isolation #14) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:48 pm

In post 64, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
Vote: Norman

do i really need to post a reason

Elmo TeH AzN has successfully escaped the RVS stage without casting a RVS vote. Cool?

Achievement unlocked!

enomis · Post Post #68 (isolation #15) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:45 pm

Wow Wow... Chill, theres no need to end day 1 so early. Also, if anything, we need to wait for his claim and see if he still comes with the same response.

UNVOTE: Norman

enomis · Post Post #70 (isolation #16) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:07 am

In post 69, Draken wrote:
ScreamingHawk wrote:But don't expect that to stick.
Unlike your avatar?

I'm gonna suggest there's a good likelihood scum is on this wagon just a little.
Norman, you think you'd actually get lynched this easy? Don't start any defeatist attitude yet.
Though if he was lynched this easy I might turn defeatist just from the stupidity of town to do such a thing...

You are correct. The scum on this wagon is screaminghawk. He looks scummy.

enomis · Post Post #73 (isolation #17) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:59 am

In post 72, Hiraki wrote:If you idiots lynch Norman, I will destroy you all.

A troll scum on D1?

Are you kidding?

I've self-voted numerous times in RVS. The reason you all jumped to an obvious conclusion that has no real validity is scary. Especially the other newbie, enormis. I don't think he's scum. Just newbin' it up.

Wow. you are here bro. Didnt notice you.

. And btw, that wagon was just to get us out of RVS for purposes. But seriously, i wanna get norman out of his trolling ways first. Trolling is simply harmful to the town. And the wagon also gives us more information. Why not?

enomis · Post Post #74 (isolation #18) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:00 am

Oh and my name dont have a R. You always do that with my name. I am ENOMIS

enomis · Post Post #76 (isolation #19) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:08 am

In post 75, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Personally I just voted for the annoyance. I would rather it be gone but Im willing to wait.

Hmmm? How annoying can he be? He only posted a few post. And its not like he insulted you or go ALL CAPS. He at most posted a few post only. Your reasons seem a bit abstract.

enomis · Post Post #79 (isolation #20) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:24 am

In post 78, Gen_Wolf wrote:Quick question, is there any link between Viscera Eyes and Viscera Link? Or is that just coincidence in the name? I see this getting very confusing!

Also, Eyes, one post? I think its time you start doing the pro-town thing and get involved with the discussion a little...

Viscera link is the hydra of viscera eyes and hikari link.

enomis · Post Post #80 (isolation #21) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:25 am

In post 77, Hiraki wrote:
enomis wrote:And btw, that wagon was just to get us out of RVS for purposes.

enomis wrote:Elmo TeH AzN has successfully escaped the RVS stage without casting a RVS vote.

Elmo wrote:Vote: Norman

really?

Do you think I'm that stupid?

Is this question addressed to me?

enomis · Post Post #82 (isolation #22) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:01 am

In post 81, Parama wrote:
In post 43, ScreamingHawk wrote:lol works fine. What's wrong with a self vote at RVS. Calm down. I think discussing mafia strategy is scum early on. Also a this is something town would do so I should do this. Also it's coaching mafia even if you aren't yourselves so it's just stupid.

But your right about RVS needing to end.

VOTE: Norman

But don't expect that to stick.

So you COMPLETELY disagree with the arguments against Norman
Yet vote him anyways?

In post 68, enomis wrote:Wow Wow... Chill, theres no need to end day 1 so early.

Frankly, why not? Norman has spontaneously combusted already, so.

You asking me this question? I think you already know the answer.

enomis · Post Post #139 (isolation #23) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:09 pm

In post 83, Viscera Link wrote:People who push quick-wagons by calling for people to sheep them aren't allowed to jump off and decry quick-wagons. Call it bad form.

UNVOTE: Hiraki
VOTE: enomis

Town! Let's run this guy up to L-1 with no reason and show him what it's like!

No. I already explained my reasons. Or do you think HAVING the possibility of ending the day early is good huh? Ending the day in like 4 or 5pages. Really? And my wagon that time was actually to put pressure on him to have him stop trolling and getting us out of RVS so i dont have the intention of lynching him. And after those things of breaking the rules and being replaced, i think he is not scum.(he broke the rules for playing against his wincon as town probably). Believe in my read.

VOTE: Screaming Hawk. You are scum. Look, hiraki have already stopped whisker from claiming and here you are trying to get him to claim. Also, you explained yourself too much at the start of the day when theres no need to and theres no way one can back up his fos. But you did that. Very Scummy.

enomis · Post Post #141 (isolation #24) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:11 pm

In post 137, Spartan_N30 wrote:It just seemed like the nice thing to say

But yeah, whiskers I'm sorry, but after getting caught up with posts and all, I'm hate to say it, but you took a position that was doomed for suicide.

/vote whiskers

No, you are sheeping. Explain your read on norman. Couldnt Norman be a trolling town instead of a scum?

enomis · Post Post #142 (isolation #25) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:12 pm

In post 140, Spartan_N30 wrote:
In post 138, Parama wrote:
unvote

Stop putting the pony at L-1 you douchebags. L-2 is fine for now.
You didn't even format it right anyways but just in case the mod counts it.

In post 117, Parama wrote:Whiskers no offense but you're replacing into a slot that's literally claimed scum. Wisest move would be self-hammering, but. If you wanna give us some input, go for it.

So now you loose your backbone? You WANTED this guy to be lynched. And you even wanted the guy to hammer himself

Fos: parama

If you wanted to know, parama was half joking.

FOS: Spartan_n30

enomis · Post Post #151 (isolation #26) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:29 pm

@parama: I seriously thought you were joking. Do you seriously think Norman/whisker is scum?

And nice omgus, spartan. You seem to be buddying up with screaming hawk nice and good huh?

enomis · Post Post #153 (isolation #27) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:32 pm

In post 150, Spartan_N30 wrote:Whatever

I say we just end the day now and go ahead to day 2, that way, we can safely say if whiskers was put in a bad position, or if he WAS scum. (im still voting for him regardless as I do believe he is scum)
But for right now I
unFOS

So you want to end the day now and go on to day two as even though whiskers was a town in bad position, it doesnt make you look scummy when you vote him as SHE IS IN BAD POSITION huh? And what is that unFOS for.

enomis · Post Post #154 (isolation #28) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:34 pm

In post 90, Norman wrote:olnope.^

@parama: He is just trolling, you cant really get any reads off him. And this post^^^^^, even though is short, give me my read on him as town. And no, he is probably not scum.

enomis · Post Post #156 (isolation #29) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:36 pm

In post 155, Spartan_N30 wrote:Enomis, just stop being the VI, after all whiskers haven't posted this entire time, so he probably knows he is doomed

Whats VI.

enomis · Post Post #157 (isolation #30) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:37 pm

Oh and answer my question, you seem to avoid them.

enomis · Post Post #160 (isolation #31) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:41 pm

In post 158, Parama wrote:enomis, does Norman do this every game?

I dont know. But i have met this type of people before. And usually, this kind of post like 'lol nope' posted by them is usually the truth. Well, i dont know for him as i never played with him before but this is what give me my town read on him.

enomis · Post Post #161 (isolation #32) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:41 pm

In post 159, Spartan_N30 wrote:The unFOS was as a sing of good faith, but know this. I try to keep my head cool and only vote for what looks, sounds, and smells like scumm. And right now, you are looking really scummy.

Really, looking scummy? How? Are you sure it isnt OMGUS?

enomis · Post Post #163 (isolation #33) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:44 pm

In post 162, Parama wrote:Norman seems like the type of dude who can't handle any pressure at all.
And he had a scum breakdown, not a town breakdown. 'Cause trust me I know what it's like to have a town breakdown <.<

hmmm...No i dont think so. Lets get reads on whisker then. This will confirm something. Lets wait for whisker to reply.

enomis · Post Post #165 (isolation #34) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:48 pm

In post 164, Spartan_N30 wrote:
In post 161, enomis wrote:
In post 159, Spartan_N30 wrote:The unFOS was as a sing of good faith, but know this. I try to keep my head cool and only vote for what looks, sounds, and smells like scumm. And right now, you are looking really scummy.

Really, looking scummy? How? Are you sure it isnt OMGUS?

You just justified yourself, you overreact to the small things, your behavior is scummy

Mfos: enomis

What? No look here. you said 'you are really scummy'. And i ask you how(is people saying that you look scummy a small thing to you?really?). And how is my behavior scummy? Am i scummy for defending norman/whisker? Is that what you think. Please give reasons. I am seriously thinking you are OMGUSing now.

enomis · Post Post #167 (isolation #35) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:00 pm

In post 166, Spartan_N30 wrote:Whatever, I'm going to bed

nice way of escaping the situation.

enomis · Post Post #169 (isolation #36) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:05 pm

In post 168, Whiskers wrote:It's actually true though-- were I scum, and, had I the oppourtunity, the best thing there to do would be to self-hammer, therefore ending the day and keeping talk to a minimum.
Also, connecting... ... ... enobis and Hiraki.

[preedit] --for about 100 posts.

Sorry, I guess I walked away to put the bro to bed and play a game of Snake. I'm back, you want reads?
Have at me.

No you. You are giving false info. you cant self hammer as your vote is already on yourself.

enomis · Post Post #170 (isolation #37) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:07 pm

In post 122, Whiskers wrote:Okay. Reading ScreamingHawk and Elmo as Mafia. Reading ENORMOUS and VL as town.

Hello Draken, hello El_Simo, you stared in my first game onsite. You need to post more because you don't even have a presence.
Hello Don_Johnson, Hella Parama. We shared a game in which something something and you were right and I was wrong. Parama is up to his usual tricks.
Hello Hiraki, ongoing game and you're dead and I'm not.
Hello Gen-Wolf. Your play and flip here will affect my read on you in [ongoing game].

I am drinking Grape Soda. Also, Norman is a troll-- see our scuffle in that one queue. I've prepared a roleclaim, if you want it.

And also 'prepared a roleclaim' --> is this a slip? If you are town, you dont even need to prepare it. Its there for you.

enomis · Post Post #172 (isolation #38) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:20 pm

In post 171, Hiraki wrote:Nitpicky is bad Enomis.

Its not nitpicky. Sometimes these are really slips.

enomis · Post Post #174 (isolation #39) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:22 pm

In post 173, Hiraki wrote:I don't think he meant prepared as in "I made one up" rather he's prepared to claim.

......You should have let him reply that.Arghhhhhhh.... You are not helping me get reads on her you know. You are obstructing it.

enomis · Post Post #185 (isolation #40) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:39 pm

In post 176, Whiskers wrote:
In post 173, Hiraki wrote:I don't think he meant prepared as in "I made one up" rather he's prepared to claim.

I phrased it how I meant it.

"I
have
prepared
a
roleclaim," not, "I
am
prepared
to
roleclaim."

The explanation here is that I didn't plan to fullclaim.

???If you dont plan to fullclaim, and you dont plan not to claim, is there something such as half-claim? WTF? Explain yourself.

In post 182, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
In post 141, enomis wrote:
In post 137, Spartan_N30 wrote:It just seemed like the nice thing to say

But yeah, whiskers I'm sorry, but after getting caught up with posts and all, I'm hate to say it, but you took a position that was doomed for suicide.

/vote whiskers

No, you are sheeping. Explain your read on norman. Couldnt Norman be a trolling town instead of a scum?

It's pretty obvious at least from my pov he was.

Unvote

Imam take him off of L-2 and re-read everythkn again tomorrow. Also HAVE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!
There are a couple people that are comin off pretty scummy as well in this last page thinking about it

What? Is there a need to unvote?(although your vote was not on him in the first place, your format is wrong). But seriously? You vote, i question you for your reason and think you are just sheeping without thinking. And now you unvote immediately? Wow. So you really just sheeped huh....

enomis · Post Post #187 (isolation #41) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:48 pm

In post 181, Viscera Link wrote:
In post 180, VisceraEyes wrote:
In post 98, Viscera Link wrote:
In post 83, Viscera Link wrote:People who push quick-wagons by calling for people to sheep them aren't allowed to jump off and decry quick-wagons. Call it bad form.

UNVOTE: Hiraki
VOTE: enomis

Town!
Let's run this guy up to L-1 with no reason and show him what it's like!

enomis called for the quick-wagon, citing intention to lynch. He called for town to 'sheep' him. And then when a lynch is likely, jumps off saying 'let's not be hasty. no reason for a quick day.'

Why would he start a quick-wagon on someone without intent to lynch them? He was specifically doing it so that he could accuse others of ending the day quickly, when he's the one who pushed for his lynch in the first place. It's a retarded play, and it only serves to make him look suspicious.

The bolded was supposed to be ironic, because I've given reason for lynching him and actually want him to be lynched in spite of enomis' ridiculous farce that was his quick-wagon.

For clarity's sake, and because apparently it's necessary for some reason, this is VisceraEyes, the original author of the post in question.

?Whats the purpose of this quote. And viscera eye, can i ask you to stop posting in your viscera eye account and post it under viscera link instead? Thanks.

In post 177, ScreamingHawk wrote:
In post 176, Whiskers wrote:
In post 173, Hiraki wrote:I don't think he meant prepared as in "I made one up" rather he's prepared to claim.

I phrased it how I meant it.

"I
have
prepared
a
roleclaim," not, "I
am
prepared
to
roleclaim."

The explanation here is that I didn't plan to fullclaim.

Love to see this claim now.

Stop Asking for claim. Why the hell are you so insistent on this.

enomis · Post Post #188 (isolation #42) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:49 pm

In post 186, Whiskers wrote:Yeah-- I have a scumread on him for a reason.

One's claim can be, uh, "not full" when one has a peculiarity or condition or
modifier
on one's role. I intended to claim the role, but not the limitation.

nvm. Dont talk about your role anymore. It was my mistake to ask you that question. Anyway, who is the 'him'.

enomis · Post Post #191 (isolation #43) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:00 pm

In post 189, Whiskers wrote:Elmo.
Also, VEyes is likely posting from her Main account by accident.

Yeah i know. But Veyes need to get used to using hydra to post soon. Or else theres no point for a hydra is there? Whatever. Anyway, give reasons for all your reads (both town and scum). Also, what are your thoughts on screaming hawk.

enomis · Post Post #193 (isolation #44) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:27 pm

In post 192, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
In post 186, Whiskers wrote:Yeah-- I have a scumread on him for a reason.

One's claim can be, uh, "not full" when one has a peculiarity or condition or
modifier
on one's role. I intended to claim the role, but not the limitation.

This is nothing new for me. Lets see if I can make it 2 for 2 then on getting lynched D1 shall we. Also thanks for the clarity. It gets confusing sometimes I hope you understand. As for a scum read once again. Suprise suprise. That's all I ever get. I could say I got a scum read from everyone and it would get my no where in this case.

In post 185, enomis wrote:
In post 176, Whiskers wrote:
In post 173, Hiraki wrote:I don't think he meant prepared as in "I made one up" rather he's prepared to claim.

I phrased it how I meant it.

"I
have
prepared
a
roleclaim," not, "I
am
prepared
to
roleclaim."

The explanation here is that I didn't plan to fullclaim.

???If you dont plan to fullclaim, and you dont plan not to claim, is there something such as half-claim? WTF? Explain yourself.

In post 182, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
In post 141, enomis wrote:
In post 137, Spartan_N30 wrote:It just seemed like the nice thing to say

But yeah, whiskers I'm sorry, but after getting caught up with posts and all, I'm hate to say it, but you took a position that was doomed for suicide.

/vote whiskers

No, you are sheeping. Explain your read on norman. Couldnt Norman be a trolling town instead of a scum?

It's pretty obvious at least from my pov he was.

Unvote

Imam take him off of L-2 and re-read everythkn again tomorrow. Also HAVE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!
There are a couple people that are comin off pretty scummy as well in this last page thinking about it

What? Is there a need to unvote?(although your vote was not on him in the first place, your format is wrong). But seriously? You vote, i question you for your reason and think you are just sheeping without thinking. And now you unvote immediately? Wow. So you really just sheeped huh....

When did you ask me for a reason? I seriously missed that. And I posted my reason when Norman was still in the game citing "do I really need a reason" My vote would then be transfered to his replacement Whiskers. Since your going to complain about my vote I'll format it tight for you. Whats the point of keeping my vote on someone when I am allowing them to make a case for themselves? I don't play the game like you and I'm not going to. There was a reason behind it and once again SORRY I DIDN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT. Oh and I didn't sheep
VOTE:
Unvote

Happy?

What no. I am not talking about ur unvote format. I am talking about your vote format which is /vote..... This means your vote is not official and your vote is not on him so you dont need to unvote. But thats, filler stuff. And doesnt your 'do i need a reason' means the reason is very obvious? No? or i am misinterpreting your post? (or you dont have any reasons to vote norman in the first place?= sheeping).If i misinterpreted, say your reason then and i ask you here now, who do you fos. And no you do not unvote when YOUR FOS is making a case unless he is on L1 or something and you want to make sure no one hammer.

enomis · Post Post #196 (isolation #45) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:51 pm

In post 195, monk wrote:
In post 137, Spartan_N30 wrote:It just seemed like the nice thing to say

But yeah, whiskers I'm sorry, but after getting caught up with posts and all, I'm hate to say it, but you took a position that was doomed for suicide.

/vote whiskers
for votes to count they must be in bold, there are also vote tags available at a click of a button or with the BBcode:
Code: Select all
[vote]monk[/vote]
which yields:

VOTE: monk

ok thanks. VOTE: monk

. Just kidding.

enomis · Post Post #198 (isolation #46) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:11 pm

In post 197, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Emilia f u auto correct. Either way I didn't /Unvote the one who went to sleep did and I thought you were talking to me. Sorry for the confusion

answer my question.

enomis · Post Post #200 (isolation #47) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:55 pm

Lets see if I can make it 2 for 2 then on getting lynched D1 shall we.

what is 2 for 2. And is english your first language???

enomis · Post Post #201 (isolation #48) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:56 pm

In post 199, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
In post 198, enomis wrote:
In post 197, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Emilia f u auto correct. Either way I didn't /Unvote the one who went to sleep did and I thought you were talking to me. Sorry for the confusion

answer my question.

Whiskers for some reason I want to spell with an a. Don't ask. Either way it seems there is a bigger fish to fry with Spartan all of a sudden jumping ship and saying oh I'm going to
Bed so he can easily plot out his course of action. Just seems a bit scummy to me. I hope this answered your question. And on this note I'm off to bed since umma plan on being up in 6 hrs to help cook and other stupid things i should do

?Out of all the things, the only thing you find scummy is that he go to bed??? Really?

enomis · Post Post #203 (isolation #49) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:58 pm

In post 202, Gen_Wolf wrote:
In post 200, enomis wrote:
Lets see if I can make it 2 for 2 then on getting lynched D1 shall we.

what is 2 for 2. And is english your first language???

I get the impression in the last game he played he got lynched on D1 so he is saying lets see if he can get lynched on D1 two games in a row... if that makes sense?

^Lol at going to bed is scum!

hmmm.Hi. Give your foses.

enomis · Post Post #205 (isolation #50) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:01 am

In post 204, Gen_Wolf wrote:
In post 203, enomis wrote:
In post 202, Gen_Wolf wrote:
In post 200, enomis wrote:
Lets see if I can make it 2 for 2 then on getting lynched D1 shall we.

what is 2 for 2. And is english your first language???

I get the impression in the last game he played he got lynched on D1 so he is saying lets see if he can get lynched on D1 two games in a row... if that makes sense?

^Lol at going to bed is scum!

hmmm.Hi. Give your foses.

What??????????? Foses??

yes, why so surprise? And with reasons. Thanks.

enomis · Post Post #207 (isolation #51) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:43 am

In post 206, Gen_Wolf wrote:I am suprised, purely because I have absoluly no clue what foses means?

My reason for not knowing foses is: I'm just not as intellectual as you, Sir Enomis!

I am presuming foses means thoughts in the scenario you used it, and again I presume you mean with the whole Spartan, elmo situation...

My thoughts on that situation: Spartan being in his first game here has come in trying to make a statement and scum hunt... However, he went on little evidence with a weak case and it didn't work out. It could be that he has found himself being scum in his first game here and he feels out of his depth... so for now he is leaning scum!

Elmo, I dont think he handled the situation well and if that is his attempt of scum hunting it seems pretty poor and will ultimately end up being detrimental to town... He might have a case with spartan but the fact he comes out with "OMG he is going to bed" then it seems lazy... However, I have a town read on him.

Enomis - You are town in my eyes... Asking question, analyzing little details so for now I am happy to put you in my town list...

Parama - I feel he is town but he seems to be with holding a little, he is giving his opinion but only to the bare minimum

Norman/Whiskers - If i had to be truly honest I have never played in a game where something like that has happened so first time experiencing that so I don't know how to read it so I am following others on that situation but for now I am happy to
Unvote
and put my vote on later if need be...

If I haven't listed you its most likely I have a null read on you for now

yes you are correct. FOSes = Finger of suspicion. The es is just to make fos plural So, foses = Fingers of suspicion. sorry if i use it weirdly=.=. Also, i am abit busy now so i dont have much time to read your post. i just skimmed through it. Will say my thoughts later.

enomis · Post Post #209 (isolation #52) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:00 am

In post 206, Gen_Wolf wrote:I am suprised, purely because I have absoluly no clue what foses means?

My reason for not knowing foses is: I'm just not as intellectual as you, Sir Enomis!

I am presuming foses means thoughts in the scenario you used it, and again I presume you mean with the whole Spartan, elmo situation...

My thoughts on that situation: Spartan being in his first game here has come in trying to make a statement and scum hunt... However, he went on little evidence with a weak case and it didn't work out. It could be that he has found himself being scum in his first game here and he feels out of his depth... so for now he is leaning scum!

Elmo, I dont think he handled the situation well and if that is his attempt of scum hunting it seems pretty poor and will ultimately end up being detrimental to town... He might have a case with spartan but the fact he comes out with "OMG he is going to bed" then it seems lazy... However, I have a town read on him.

Enomis - You are town in my eyes... Asking question, analyzing little details so for now I am happy to put you in my town list...

Parama - I feel he is town but he seems to be with holding a little, he is giving his opinion but only to the bare minimum

Norman/Whiskers - If i had to be truly honest I have never played in a game where something like that has happened so first time experiencing that so I don't know how to read it so I am following others on that situation but for now I am happy to
Unvote
and put my vote on later if need be...

If I haven't listed you its most likely I have a null read on you for now

Explain your town read on Elmo.

enomis · Post Post #212 (isolation #53) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:44 am

In post 210, don_johnson wrote:gobble gobble.

you guys are idiots.

wow. ok i admit i am new. but whats with the insult...

enomis · Post Post #213 (isolation #54) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:47 am

In post 211, Gen_Wolf wrote:
In post 209, enomis wrote:
In post 206, Gen_Wolf wrote:I am suprised, purely because I have absoluly no clue what foses means?

My reason for not knowing foses is: I'm just not as intellectual as you, Sir Enomis!

I am presuming foses means thoughts in the scenario you used it, and again I presume you mean with the whole Spartan, elmo situation...

My thoughts on that situation: Spartan being in his first game here has come in trying to make a statement and scum hunt... However, he went on little evidence with a weak case and it didn't work out. It could be that he has found himself being scum in his first game here and he feels out of his depth... so for now he is leaning scum!

Elmo, I dont think he handled the situation well and if that is his attempt of scum hunting it seems pretty poor and will ultimately end up being detrimental to town... He might have a case with spartan but the fact he comes out with "OMG he is going to bed" then it seems lazy... However, I have a town read on him.

Enomis - You are town in my eyes... Asking question, analyzing little details so for now I am happy to put you in my town list...

Parama - I feel he is town but he seems to be with holding a little, he is giving his opinion but only to the bare minimum

Norman/Whiskers - If i had to be truly honest I have never played in a game where something like that has happened so first time experiencing that so I don't know how to read it so I am following others on that situation but for now I am happy to
Unvote
and put my vote on later if need be...

If I haven't listed you its most likely I have a null read on you for now

Explain your town read on Elmo.

To be blunt I think he was being lazy... He had the right mind set and a reason to question Spartan but i dont think he went about it the right way... I do think he is town, not strong town at this point...

The reason he could end up being detrimental to town, is that if he is town and carries on being lazy then we will start thinking he is scum (for all I know he might be anyways) but if he is town and is being lazy then we might vote him off and that hinders us in the long run!

Does that clear it up?

huh? How is that a townread? Questioning =/= town.

enomis · Post Post #215 (isolation #55) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:53 am

In post 214, Gen_Wolf wrote:My town read on Elmo comes from him and Spartan?

No. you dont get town read on those who side with you and fos the same guy as you.

enomis · Post Post #217 (isolation #56) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:58 am

In post 216, Gen_Wolf wrote:
In post 215, enomis wrote:
In post 214, Gen_Wolf wrote:My town read on Elmo comes from him and Spartan?

No. you dont get town read on those who side with you and fos the same guy as you.

If i had to be truely honest I don't see what your getting at, I came to my own conclusions on all players yet you seem to have an issue with my elmo read?

Nvm.

enomis · Post Post #220 (isolation #57) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:57 am

In post 217, enomis wrote:
In post 216, Gen_Wolf wrote:
In post 215, enomis wrote:
In post 214, Gen_Wolf wrote:My town read on Elmo comes from him and Spartan?

No. you dont get town read on those who side with you and fos the same guy as you.

If i had to be truely honest I don't see what your getting at, I came to my own conclusions on all players yet you seem to have an issue with my elmo read?

Nvm.

In post 218, don_johnson wrote:my apologies enormis. i wasn't sying "you" are an idiot.

it was more like "all you guys" are idiots. see, i included everyone.

that said:

enormis wrote:No. you dont get town read on those who side with you and fos the same guy as you.

why not?

If i never phrase myself correctly, i apologise. I meant, you dont get townread on someone just because they fos the same guy as you and try to question them. And there must be a reason you call us idiots? like we are doing something very wrong?

enomis · Post Post #224 (isolation #58) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:23 am

In post 221, Spartan_N30 wrote:Ok Enomis,not answer your question, the way I see it, your trying to blame the fact that I am getting reads of scum because I'm new and therefore, trying to discredit me.

Also, I don't think that voteing for enomis is the right thing to do at this time, because once we get off day one, I may not even read him as scum.

Does that explain everything?

In post 223, Spartan_N30 wrote:
In post 221, Spartan_N30 wrote:
Also, I don't think that voteing for enomis is the right thing to do at this time, because once we get off day one, I may not even read him

Wow, I just realized how stupid that sounds.
UNVOTE: Whiskers
VOTE: Enomis

???What are you talking about?

enomis · Post Post #226 (isolation #59) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:59 am

In post 225, Spartan_N30 wrote:I'm saying that I am the flying pumpkin that shoots laser bees out of its ass

....Please, seriously rephrase yourself. I dont get what you are talking about. I ask you for your fos(on me or on others) and the reason behind your fos for me and you give me this crap.

enomis · Post Post #228 (isolation #60) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:27 am

In post 227, Spartan_N30 wrote:
In post 164, Spartan_N30 wrote:
In post 161, enomis wrote:
In post 159, Spartan_N30 wrote:The unFOS was as a sing of good faith, but know this. I try to keep my head cool and only vote for what looks, sounds, and smells like scumm. And right now, you are looking really scummy.

Really, looking scummy? How? Are you sure it isnt OMGUS?

You just justified yourself, you overreact to the small things, your behavior is scummy

Mfos: enomis

Why would you Mfos rather than vote in this situation? Surely if you think his behaviour is scummy its worth a vote??

There, you happy? I was trying to answer a question enomis when I wrote what I said.
I then realized my answer to my question was stupid and that this guy was totally right.[/quote]

??????? What? Spartan, is english your first language? Because i have trouble understanding your post.

enomis · Post Post #229 (isolation #61) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:28 am

There, you happy? I was trying to answer a question enomis when I wrote what I said.
I then realized my answer to my question was stupid and that this guy was totally right.

??????? What? Spartan, is english your first language? Because i have trouble understanding your post.

This is what i get for not previewing my post. Anyway, edited.

enomis · Post Post #234 (isolation #62) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:02 am

What if he realized it?

Oh snap! He could use your trap against you.

Springing traps is always pro-town when there's an ability to spring it.

Oh, then master hiraki, enlighten me on how he could use my trap against me. Can you share with me some of your godsent wisdom?

enomis · Post Post #295 (isolation #63) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:58 pm

Alright, time to rebut ScreamingHawk.

Spoiler: case against SH

Spoiler: case against spartan

No look here, my buddying with parama is because he is one of the better players(in my opinion) and active and i am trying to get his opinion on things. I cant possibly go rambo on everyone and attack everyone anyhow right? I attack people based on my reads. Parama is currently in my NULL read. And do you think if i am scum, i would really buddy it up with my scummate and show everyone and say 'hey everyone, we are scum. Look how buddy buddy we are. Its so obvious. Come lynch us'

And for the case on norman, i have nothing to say. I have my townread on him(i have met this type of people) and thats it. Well, you may have read through his games which i never so you have some extra information that i dont have and can say that his admitting scum is scum. I will find sometime to read his other games later to tomorrow and get back to you on this.

enomis · Post Post #296 (isolation #64) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:05 pm

In post 288, Spartan_N30 wrote:ok, after isolateing all the posts i get this:
Draken: 65% chance scum, Posted nothing about the game, lives in australia though so may just be unintentional

Vicera Eyes: 70% chance of scum, With only 3 posts and none with a vote, its tough to say if he is lurking but something doesn't sit right...

Gen: 10% chance of scum, He makes sense and is verry sound in his reasoning, Of course this just may be a gambit to lower our guard. then again, you never know

Parama: 60% chance of scum, Im going to refer to what i said about him being all over the place, however it may just be un-intentional

Enomis:85% chance of scum, His constant acusal of OMGUS seems verry suspicous and allthough verry active at the start, he/she hasn't posted recently

Im too tired to analize the rest so i will go ahead and say this may just be all a case of WINFOM as im probably over analizeing.

Wow, i see your way of find scumreads is through lurkers? I see I see. And i havent posted recently because i am sleeping. Whats? And i explained my case of OMGUS in my previous post. Your scum read on me is basically, i used OMGUS too much(which is not true). I posted OMGUS a few times because you dont give me reasons for your FOS and i had to repeat myself using the word OMGUS AGAIN.

@whisker: Elmo plays like that in his other game. I seriously dont know how to analyse him. He is just scummy.

enomis · Post Post #298 (isolation #65) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:18 pm

In post 297, Hiraki wrote:
Whiskers wrote:Hiraki still has nothing to say
I assume that means you dropped your point.

It's okay.

I get it.

You're scared of my town face.

It's pretty ugly, not gonna lie.

Yea. Its not helping the town when you dont out your reads.At least our your FoS and with reasons.Thanks

enomis · Post Post #301 (isolation #66) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:28 pm

In post 300, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
In post 284, Hiraki wrote:...

I give up.

This is how I feel about Spartan. Your scummy just by swapping your vote ever 5 seconds it seems.

No. This does not show that he is scummy. This shows that he is dumbtelling.

enomis · Post Post #304 (isolation #67) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:26 pm

In post 303, Hiraki wrote:
In post 300, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
In post 284, Hiraki wrote:...

I give up.

This is how I feel about Spartan. Your scummy just by swapping your vote ever 5 seconds it seems.
Pssst.

It's not that he's scum.

It's just that he's really bad and annoying town.

No. Hiraki. You are making a bad point here. Why cant he be a bad and annoying mafia who flip at the sign of pressure. The way you think he is town is scummy. And, you havent out your FoS which you promised me. OUT THEM PLEASE.

enomis · Post Post #306 (isolation #68) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:44 am

In post 305, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
In post 303, Hiraki wrote:
In post 300, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
In post 284, Hiraki wrote:...

I give up.

This is how I feel about Spartan. Your scummy just by swapping your vote ever 5 seconds it seems.
Pssst.

It's not that he's scum.

It's just that he's really bad and annoying town.

Either way why keep him around?

you dont lynch bad town. YOU LYNCH SCUM.

enomis · Post Post #312 (isolation #69) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:37 am

In post 298, enomis wrote:
In post 297, Hiraki wrote:
Whiskers wrote:Hiraki still has nothing to say
I assume that means you dropped your point.

It's okay.

I get it.

You're scared of my town face.

It's pretty ugly, not gonna lie.

Yea. Its not helping the town when you dont out your reads.At least our your FoS and with reasons.Thanks

In post 299, Hiraki wrote:Ok

No look hiraki. Isnt that "OK" a promise of giving your FoS. Why are you not giving your FoS. Give me three good reasons why you shouldn't out them. usually, only scum have things to hide.

enomis · Post Post #313 (isolation #70) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:40 am

In post 311, Spartan_N30 wrote:I feel like this is geting too heated for day one.

yes, i may look like scum changeing my votes allmost every time i post, but thats because these people just dont sit right with me

Im gona be gone at a bowling tournament for the majority of the day. so i hope that we can pull our shit together during this time

So for now. im going to vote on the one person who i can safely say is scum

VOTE: Elmo

No look here. YOU are changing your votes once again. FFS, take a stance, vote a guy and give clearly-stated REASONS for voting them. Not vague reasons like i feel that his behaviour is scummy. And TRY to give YOUR OWN REASONS at that. Do you get this? Spartan? Because the way you are doing this is not helping the town at all. Do it like screaming hawk, give a CASE.

enomis · Post Post #316 (isolation #71) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:51 am

In post 314, Hiraki wrote:
In post 312, enomis wrote:
In post 298, enomis wrote:
In post 297, Hiraki wrote:
Whiskers wrote:Hiraki still has nothing to say
I assume that means you dropped your point.

It's okay.

I get it.

You're scared of my town face.

It's pretty ugly, not gonna lie.

Yea. Its not helping the town when you dont out your reads.At least our your FoS and with reasons.Thanks

In post 299, Hiraki wrote:Ok

No look hiraki. Isnt that "OK" a promise of giving your FoS. Why are you not giving your FoS. Give me three good reasons why you shouldn't out them. usually, only scum have things to hide.
I guess I'm scum then!

Oh no!

Perhaps I'm lazy.

And don't want.

Unmotivated(lol he's gonna put his vote on after seeing that to motivate me!!!!)

Hey.Yo. You are doing what norman is doing now. WTF? Please out your FOS. I am being serious here.

enomis · Post Post #319 (isolation #72) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:22 am

In post 318, Hiraki wrote:
In post 317, Whiskers wrote:Hiraki is just a washed-up oldfag who doesn't like to play because he might get NK'd. You can't get anything out of him without severe pressure and patience.
I play just as much as the other guy.

Just because I don't play like you like it, doesn't mean I'm a fag, thanks.

Whiskers wrote:enomis, this is standard play for Hiraki, and also for Parama. Both are probably town.
All you need to know right now.

Then how do you expect people to read you?

enomis · Post Post #322 (isolation #73) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:43 am

In post 321, Hiraki wrote:I think you're still missing the point that there's an intentional insult that's really not that funny.

Whiskers wrote:This is optimal play for a Powerrole, but Hiraki plays like this everygame.

Hits the main point on why Parama and I play this way, at least so I believe, fails to realize the beauty in it.

Oh. So everyone lets change our playingstyle to master hiraki style?

enomis · Post Post #325 (isolation #74) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:14 am

In post 324, Whiskers wrote:
In post 322, enomis wrote:Oh. So everyone lets change our playingstyle to master hiraki style?

It's something you have to do over the course of a career. I haven't tried it, but I'm not confident it would work for just one game and back.

No. I am being sarcastic.

enomis · Post Post #331 (isolation #75) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:50 am

@screaminghawk: Norman basically also admitted scum in one of his games and got replaced obviously. Although he is not lynched yet. Thus, i have reasons to believe that him claiming scum is just on a whim.

enomis · Post Post #333 (isolation #76) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:54 am

In post 332, don_johnson wrote:i am amazed that this is still up for debate.

Hi. Please give your reads. Or do you follow the hiraki way of playing.

enomis · Post Post #437 (isolation #77) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:23 pm

In post 432, Spartan_N30 wrote:i give up. i try. i HONESTLY FUCKING TRY. but you guys are too busy making me a scapegoat for me to actually try and give my 2 cents.

I REFUSE TO POST ANY MORE UNTIL THIS DAY FUCKING ENDS.

No you cant do this. Just calm down. You are not the target for lynch right now. So chill out. Refresh yourself and come back. Also, nobody starts as a pro. I am sure if you go read the first game of parama, hiraki or DJ, they are surely thinking what you are thinking right now. So try to learn. I am also new. Its just that this is my 4th ongoing game and i had abit of experience in another website. Thats why i know a bit more things then you. Again, the point of mafia is to have fun and the way to have fun is to argue.

Enomis

enomis · Post Post #440 (isolation #78) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:32 pm

In post 384, Draken wrote:That's pretty much what it amounts to day 1.

In post 382, Draken wrote:Day 1? Come on be serious.

No.This is not true. Do you know why mafiascum is not like epicmafia where mafiascum= centered on scumhunting and epicmafia= have a clear and let the clear do everything(role centered). This is because SCUMHUNTING is a big part of the game. So you are saying from page one all the way to page 18, which is now, everyone of us except you are doing stupid things trying to scumhunt where we coudl jsut random lynch a guy and get to day 2. And you do know that although flip gives us information, what we will do on day 2 would still be primary based on our information on day 1 you know. Also please GIVE YOUR READS. LOOK EVEN HIRAKI have given his FoS. You cant do this active lurking stuff(posting useless stuff to avoid being prodded) to get through day 1. No way i will let you. SO OUT YOUR READS NOW.(or whenever you see this post.)

enomis · Post Post #441 (isolation #79) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:45 pm

In post 342, ScreamingHawk wrote:@enomis: Your three quotes from me are 1) an RVS vote 2) a sheep vote to get out of RVS 3) stating the obvious as to answer someones attack at me.
I'm not continuing this discussion with you if that is all you have.
I'm not against your case on Spartan at this point. I just think you could have had better reasons.

@Hiraki, D_J: Your play styles are anti town. With holding information is scummy and not helpful to town. I am aware this is your play style but no one would care if you are killed (NK'd or otherwise); nothing of value will be lost. You are simply a stump wasting a game spot. I hope you understand this. For the record I'm disregarding your calls and claims until they are backed up.

BACK ON TRACK! Can we get some coherent lynch pool started? I'd like to get this game going in some direction.

nah.Getting information from RVS vote is a way to scumhunt. Its not shitty at all. You are explaining yourself too much at the RVS stage.

In post 92, ScreamingHawk wrote:TY mod.

Are we still lynching this slot guys?

In post 96, ScreamingHawk wrote:
In post 94, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Personally I say we wait. And wait for a rebuttle from whom is replacing him. I'm sure I'm using the wrOng word but excuse me if I am. And I was vOting him not just off of one post but off all of them. And so far I have 1 achievement so far. Survive one real time day with no vote. Also Link yOur post in #83 is not making sense to me. Do you care to explain your your post?

And sorry for the random caps my iPhone doesn't always work with me.

It's going to be a pretty hard job to change peoples minds here... And if he does and ends up being scum there will be hell to pay.

And do you know what these two quotes looks like? Firstly, you ask if we ask lynching whisker. Then you go say that it is pretty hard to change our minds about whiskers. Whats? Contradictions? Also, you had not answered me on why you are so insistent on claiming.(well my fault for forgetting my own question which i asked earlier), so answer now.

And i got a feeling that you did and Iso on me becuz of OMGUS.

nvm. Cancel that previous point. I shall not use that word again. And no, my case is not bad.

enomis · Post Post #443 (isolation #80) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:06 pm

In post 442, Whiskers wrote:enobis is either town or scum that really really wants to be caught. Let's be serious for a second: enobis is town. Screaming, move your fos somewhere useful.

nah he is scum.

enomis · Post Post #445 (isolation #81) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:32 pm

In post 444, Whiskers wrote:WAT CLAIMING SCUM R U LETS LYNCH/REPLACE DIS GUYYYYY

i am talking about screaming hawk. Scum wont have incentive to lynch another scum you see? Scum would rather mislynch Day 1 (well, except the case of bussing).

enomis · Post Post #447 (isolation #82) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:00 pm

In post 446, Whiskers wrote:Please vote for Screaming Hawk so that there is no ambiguity, because right now, if monk has a sense of humor, you're voting fo r the mod.

My vote is on him since long ago

enomis · Post Post #464 (isolation #83) » Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:04 am

Arghh....shit, it is so hard to read a hydra. I get a scumread one second and a townread another second...... OMG, i am gonna try to reread the arguments again. This sucks. Anyway, Besides link, VE should also post in the argument. Hydra sucks. Messes up my read.

enomis · Post Post #468 (isolation #84) » Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:58 am

In post 467, Viscera Link wrote:
In post 466, Hiraki wrote:
In post 464, enomis wrote:Arghh....shit, it is so hard to read a hydra. I get a scumread one second and a townread another second...... OMG, i am gonna try to reread the arguments again. This sucks. Anyway, Besides link, VE should also post in the argument. Hydra sucks. Messes up my read.
Meta is a very useful tool against a hydra.

It's also a very helpful tool when playing WITH a hydra, in the case that we're on the same team. I'm not surprised Hiraki worded it that way though.

hmmm? My head cracked. Nvm. I will try to read it tommorow. And Link, you dont have any games as scum do you? Anyway, why so nitpicky about the small words hiraki used? Too paranoid? hmmm.....

enomis · Post Post #471 (isolation #85) » Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:28 am

In post 470, Parama wrote:I'm not reading anything on page 19.

why? This is when hiraki and VL make their reads and cases.

enomis · Post Post #473 (isolation #86) » Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:30 am

In post 472, Parama wrote:This is when VL and Hiraki have a pissing contest that takes up way more space than it needs to. I don't really care anyways since I'm voting the VL.

Your reasons?

enomis · Post Post #553 (isolation #87) » Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:34 pm

@hiraki link

As a matter of fact, I do. Here's my entire wiki if the mood strikes you. And what small words am I being nitpicky about?

Hiraki is only stating that meta is useful when playing AGAINST a hydra. Well, do you feel that 'against' is suppose to convince me of you being scum or what? Why do you feel the need to add that meta is useful when playing WITH a hydra? Isnt that being nitpicky? Also, dont bring other points into this. I am not talking about the 'probably town' point.

In post 513, Draken wrote:Damn my busy social life.
Anyway camn, Spartan look newb-nervous, wouldn't have the experience to say newb town or newb scum nervousness though. But it does remind me of my first game...

I could see either of Hiraki or VL being scum. I never think constantly saying your town is a good idea so I'm leaning toward VL-scum. So VOTE: Viscera Link
I also think screamy is a little scummy, but mostly as a gut read.

So I'll be busy the rest of the day, expect around another 24 hours till my next post.

Wow? No contributions to the game at all. your only contribution is hoping on the wagon thats it. This is the definition of ACTIVE LURKING. Do you know that? So please make some contributions. You are basically sitting on the fence here. Its like you are saying 'hmmm hiraki and Vl can both be scum' and you are leaning now for VL. ACTIVE LURKING usually means --> SCUM.

In post 551, Spartan_N30 wrote:
In post 535, Parama wrote:Seriously VL just because you got lynched doesn't mean you should RAEGQUIT

That's called being a bad player
And blacklist-worthy

it sounds like he thought that he was lynched though.
Something is going on...

Nah. Although it is not your fault for screwing the thing up, i will explain it for you. Hiraki is trying to make VL think that someone has hammered on his wagon and he is already lynched. So there is no harm of him claiming 'scum' after he is confirmed lynched? No? So this will either further provide evidence of VL being scum or if he is town, he would do everything to try to help town before he dies. Get it?

enomis · Post Post #559 (isolation #88) » Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:39 pm

In post 556, Whiskers wrote:There's always one though, isn't there, who doesn't get it and spoils it.

How many scumpoints do we give to Spartan for this? He's a newbie, but.

? Why would you give scumpoints to a newbie who doesnt know what is going on and accidentally spoil it. And why do you need to ask? Dont you have your own way of reading this as scum or town?

enomis · Post Post #567 (isolation #89) » Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:24 pm

In post 565, Draken wrote:Oh that was hilarious.
At first I was like "I did not",
then I was like "ohhh..." after I assumed that hiraki and camn couldn't both be that bad at counting.
Good times.

Did you just ignored me?

enomis · Post Post #572 (isolation #90) » Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:25 am

In post 568, Draken wrote:Yeah, kinda. Viva pinata is pretty distracting.

Do you stubbornly insist on active lurking?

enomis · Post Post #652 (isolation #91) » Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:57 pm

In post 646, ScreamingHawk wrote:
In post 645, Draken wrote:Bussing or opportunism, both suggest he's scum.

That was the point of the comment, I'm sure

Hi. SH, you completely missed my post where i posted extra arguments on you for you. It would be nice if you answered them.

enomis · Post Post #653 (isolation #92) » Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:01 pm

In post 644, ScreamingHawk wrote:My first three were RVS. A random vote for Parama, a player I've never had any experience with. Couple posts later say 'he's a cool dude' i.e. funny guy. Third post: I dislike hydras because they are difficult to read. I can't explain these any further because there really isn't anything more to them. I don't take RVS very seriously.

And it was
YOUR
vote on Draken that I was sheeping. Which evidently was the same thing Parama was doing in #595 and what Whisker was doing #593. (Though they both said they ISO'd there was little if any input before the vote)

Let me rephrase what you are saying. What you are saying is thet since parama and whisker could sheep camn's vote without getting into trouble, i should be able to sheep too! Lets sheep! Its what you are saying.

enomis · Post Post #658 (isolation #93) » Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:25 pm

In post 657, ScreamingHawk wrote:
In post 653, enomis wrote:
In post 644, ScreamingHawk wrote:My first three were RVS. A random vote for Parama, a player I've never had any experience with. Couple posts later say 'he's a cool dude' i.e. funny guy. Third post: I dislike hydras because they are difficult to read. I can't explain these any further because there really isn't anything more to them. I don't take RVS very seriously.

And it was
YOUR
vote on Draken that I was sheeping. Which evidently was the same thing Parama was doing in #595 and what Whisker was doing #593. (Though they both said they ISO'd there was little if any input before the vote)

Let me rephrase what you are saying. What you are saying is thet since parama and whisker could sheep camn's vote without getting into trouble, i should be able to sheep too! Lets sheep! Its what you are saying.

No. What I'm saying is I sheeped because it seemed like the next place to get information. I find it odd that another 2 players do that same without being called out, but that's always the way. People only target one person at a time in this game, and that happened to be me.

So you are highlighting the point that they are doing the same thing as you and the case of you sheeping is not strong? And you phrase it in such a way that it is random that who we target out of you three. Is that it?

Original Argument: 295
Extra: 441

enomis · Post Post #661 (isolation #94) » Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:49 pm

In post 600, Draken wrote:Welp, this is an unfortunate side effect of my play.

Anyway, camn, as much as it'd make me look town to say I was there the whole time lmao-ing. I wasn't.
That was just train of thought as I was reading it.
I also agree with your read on VL's reactions, after giving it another read and some thought. UNVOTE:

For hiraki to be insistent on VL's lynch regardless, and my previous comment about one of hiraki and VL being scum VOTE: hiraki.

Oh btw, my wagon is "Draken is lurker-scum", full of sheep, and there's not much I can say to defending myself. Very easy to jump on isn't it. So... have fun with that.

In post 630, Draken wrote:Hiraki, first to quotes in that post are largely meaningless.
I have scummy play too. It's only 'scummy' cause people think it is. I have 'scummy' play in every game I'm in. Someone admitting their play is scummy, unless they have the intent to claim scum, is not an scum-claim.
Agreed, not a great defence, but hardly a scum-claim or even much of a scum-tell.
As to the third quote, camn sums that up nicely as 'frustrated townie'. You can hardly have been on the site this long and not have come across one before...

Also, yes I know, and now agree, it's unlikely hiraki initiated the gambit as scum, I'm just too stubborn to admit it sometimes... UNVOTE:

Really? Given all you know about hiraki in this game, you should know that hiraki is not the sort of person to do this for fun. Have you not been paying attention all game? And then you unvote 30 post after your vote. Too indecisive?

In post 604, Draken wrote:Oh, ok, nice to hear that I'm actually putting more work into my vote than you are in yours...
That's funny see, cause I've put bugger all into mine.

You are saying, since parama can get away with sheeping and jumping votes anywhere and anyhow, i should be able to get away with it too as i have minimal reasons for my vote which is better than parama.

In post 625, Draken wrote:Oh, scummy play is a scum-slip... Makes sense, if I agreed the play was actually 'scummy'.
Ehh, you haven't overly convinced me.
Personally I'd think town claim when they really think they've been lynched a more reliable reason than "I think his play is scummy" for a read.

In post 635, Draken wrote:Whiskey, did I 'freak out'? Oh, didn't notice.
Anyway, surely this was covered in my last game with you, I'm really no newer than the other 2011's here. Check just how extensive my game history is.

Also my point was, I have 'scummy' play in every game, but I haven't yet been scum. Ironically, 'scummy' play rarely means your scum.

So you admit that you have scummy play and you think that scummy play is a scum-slip if you agreed. So you are admitting you are scum? And when you say 'Ironically, 'scummy' play rarely means your scum.' and this contradicts 'scummy play is a scum-slip... Makes sense, if I agreed the play was actually 'scummy'.'. Hmmmmm...

enomis · Post Post #681 (isolation #95) » Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:49 pm

STOP SPAMMING IF IT IS NOT RELATED TO THE GAME.

My comments would be in bold

In post 659, ScreamingHawk wrote:
In post 658, enomis wrote:So you are highlighting the point that they are doing the same thing as you and the case of you sheeping is not strong? And you phrase it in such a way that it is random that who we target out of you three. Is that it?

No. I'm explaining why I am sheeping -> Because we needed to move on and I trust camn's judgement. And it's obviously not random, people think I'm the scummiest, so they call on me. But the fact that the same reasoning does not apply to the others is what is off. But again, that's just how the game is played here. It will come up as sheeping for the others when I'm dead and there is a need for further evidence on them.

Because we need to move on? And you trust her judgement on a lurker? hmmm.... Really? Is she town to you in the first place? Even if she is, she isnt 100% town from your pov and who would you trust a)a 100% town which is yourself or b)a town which is not 100%(both are from your pov). It is pretty obvious right? And i dont see how your vote will move us on. Even without your vote, Draken is already under immense pressure as he is at L3. Yours only make him L2. Not much difference. Really. Rather, this quick wagon may end up in a mislynch. How does this help us then? And you seem to lay low and your vote seem to be opportunist to me.

In post 441, enomis wrote:And do you know what these two quotes looks like? Firstly, you ask if we ask lynching whisker. Then you go say that it is pretty hard to change our minds about whiskers. Whats? Contradictions? Also, you had not answered me on why you are so insistent on claiming.(well my fault for forgetting my own question which i asked earlier), so answer now.
And i got a feeling that you did and Iso on me becuz of OMGUS.
nvm. Cancel that previous point. I shall not use that word again. And no, my case is not bad.

Not a contradiction? 1) Do the rest of you think we should lynch the slot? 2) I think it will be hard for any claim to change the minds of the masses (obviously I was wrong, a claim wasn't even necessary).
But that does not contradict. I was asking for others opinion and the other was presenting my own. There is no possible way that can ever contradict, regardless of the context. The case is bad. It's just becoming miss rep.

IT IS. Firstly you ask us whether we should lynch the slot( that means you are not sure about our opinion.). Then you went on to say it will be hard for any claim to change our minds means that you think that WE are LYNCHING THE SLOT. How is this not a contradiction? This is not a miss rep.

As for why I wanted a claim: I thought the slot was sure dead from Normans actions. If you read his other games you'll see when he flakes like that he DOES NOT LIE. He gives up whatever position he has. He gave up his town PR in a newbie game ffs. He didn't say 'well I must be scum now lynch me' like he did this time. This time he had claimed scum. I DON'T WANT TO PUSH THIS but the explanation was asked for.

No. You ask for a claim again and again even after Hiraki and I tried to stop it and nobody else was with you but you still kept on trying to get the claim. And maybe you should read some more of norman games. I think there is one ongoing game where he claim scum and is not lynched. And what do you mean by ' I DON'T WANT TO PUSH THIS but the explanation was asked for.'?

enomis · Post Post #682 (isolation #96) » Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:54 pm

@SH: And you drop your case against me too easily huh? And you didnt even vote me after you did a case on me? Why?

enomis · Post Post #684 (isolation #97) » Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:01 pm

My comments would be in Bold

In post 668, Draken wrote:
In post 661, enomis wrote:
Really? Given all you know about hiraki in this game, you should know that hiraki is not the sort of person to do this for fun. Have you not been paying attention all game? And then you unvote 30 post after your vote. Too indecisive?

You are saying, since parama can get away with sheeping and jumping votes anywhere and anyhow, i should be able to get away with it too as i have minimal reasons for my vote which is better than parama.

So you admit that you have scummy play and you think that scummy play is a scum-slip if you agreed. So you are admitting you are scum? And when you say 'Ironically, 'scummy' play rarely means your scum.' and this contradicts 'scummy play is a scum-slip... Makes sense, if I agreed the play was actually 'scummy'.'. Hmmmmm...

That whole post made me giggle;
1) This one simply made me laugh.
What?

2) See, you just pointed out that
I thought I should be treated differently to parama, cause I did something different to him...
Yes... (I.E. Minimal =/= None)
Yes. So you think that since you did minimal reasonings which is different and a bit better than parama, you would not be caught for wagoning before parama huh?

3)You have confused yourself a little there... I don't agree that the play hiraki was referring to was scummy, so I don't agree it was a scum-slip, and so I don't admit to being scummy by saying I have 'scummy' behaviour, because I don't agree that my 'scummy' behavior is scummy. That didn't make sense?
Basically, what other people think is scummy play I don't think is scummy play because most of the times I've seen it the person was actually town. That's what you quoted me saying in your post, but you couldn't see it.

Alright, my misunderstanding here
.

What do you think of your active lurking playing style? Do you think it is beneficial to the town?And if you think its not, why do you keep doing it? And why do you think we should not lynch you because you active lurk? Look, the benefit of having you here if you active lurk is minimal. But the benefit of lynching you is larger because you may be scum. So why do you think we should not lynch you?

enomis · Post Post #686 (isolation #98) » Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:52 pm

In post 685, Draken wrote:

Given all I know of hiraki. I could very well see him doing that sort of thing as a joke if there wasn't really any down-side. So maybe if you "know" he wouldn't, I've read him wrong. Good for me. Also a little irrelevant now. Also yes, too indecisive. Those questions were meaningless fluff that you already knew the answer too.

Merely pointing out that his reason for voting me was a little worse than hypocritical. Other people? They may have had more reason. He openly admitted to not having any.

Glad to see we're capable of seeing our mistakes. (Btw that is why I unvoted hiraki, I saw my mistake.)

As to my active lurking. It's what I do, I'll do my best. Not overly beneficial. I haven't really been lurking this game, Everyone else is just active . Games been going 1 week, I've posted every opportunity, and you'll notice I've actually been quite active in the last 24 hours.
The quality of that play is up for discussion, but it's also subjective.

Now let's get a votecount(or at least mod showing up) so we can have it confirmed if this is a real day-kill or not.

Active lurking =/= lurking. Lurking is the act of intentionally not posting during a game Day.Active Lurking is the act of posting (thus differentiating it from ordinary Lurking), but the material posted is irrelevant or otherwise useless for scumhunting. What you are doing is active lurking. I think you confused both. And you never answer my second question.

Look, the benefit of having you here if you active lurk is minimal. But the benefit of lynching you is larger because you may be scum. So why do you think we should not lynch you?

And i doubt its a daykill. I think its another Hiraki fake move.

enomis · Post Post #688 (isolation #99) » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:06 pm

In post 687, Draken wrote:Hiraki had nothing to do with this one...

You're right, I had mixed up active lurking and lurking, however I don't think I'm active lurking as of the last 24 hours.
As for why not lynch me? I can help. Potentially, and because of that potential, unless your damn near certain I or any other lurker/active-lurker is scum, they should not be lynched. Possibly unless you have absolutely no better target in mind.

Then help now. Help us in scumhunting. Give One FoS with Clearly Stated Reasons