Mini 1046 - Murder in the Desert (Game Over!)
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Slaxx Jack of All Trades
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Slaxx Jack of All Trades
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I don't think I ever voted him. I can't tell if he is "false sense of superiority talk smack about yo mom" townie or just tryhard mafia. Plus I have always been kind of bad about FoSing people who vote me (as town moreso than mafia, ironically enough) so I am trying to let my bias just kind of die down before I evaluate him.-
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For the last time, its not Meta. Its just how I post. Check the signup thread, I know there is at least one instance where I posted one thing, read up, and a few minutes later decided to address another. Mini normal cue, go. He tried to pass it off as a scum tell by saying I was scared to address people. I am not intimidated by players as town or mafia.
No, I am just trying to keep people in the game and active. Right now more or less Oso who has yet to say anything useful, and CES, but more or less for the record I added anyone else who hadn't said anything useful. I just didn't like how many people were just coming in and posting to vote when there were already other discussions going on (Hell, me and boberz went at it the first few posts).-
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I guess I have to slow down. Too much real time mafia.
Right now I am thinking along the lines of possibilities and I have gathered these possible scenarios:
Boberz/Weapons as scum + Bud as town (Pretty evident why this is a possibility if you go back and read the thread)
Also I am thinking Parama might be town for now simply because of all the random Parama votes coming from the lurkers, but we'll deal with that later.
Everyone else is neutral. I am really bad about getting reads until everyone has posted some sort of content.-
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You didn't have good reasons to start out with really. You accused me of echoing everyone else but then did the same in your post.
Also I love all the ad hom I am getting this game, it makes me feel like people don't have anything better to say in defense to my arguments. Thanks for stroking my ego <3-
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I already told you that he accepted my style of typing and yet did not let up on his vote on me. And I have posted that quote twice now. He seemed reluctant to switch of me even though he accepted my explanation. Later he even FoSs another person but does not switch to them. (I believe it was Bub). What about this isn't scummy dude?-
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Nic if you want you can delete one of those.
DELETE THE FIRST...NO, THE SECOND...:p idc
Basically the summed case on me is
1. I was scared to call out somebody to vote (Accusation is no longer in play, accuser accepted my explanation).
2. I put an L-1 vote with no explanation on a player
-I have explained my vote and did at the time
-Other people have BWed on the wagon too, but they arent catching nearly as much heat as I am
-L-1 isnt hammer, its undoable, only an idiot on either side would hammer
3. I am increasing scummier at a faster rate than bobberz ( We can credit charter for that extremely detailed and defendable position)
4. I am annoying (Once again, go Charter)
5. For unvoting Bub rapidly (I explained this one too...My FoS is boberz/WMOD [mainly by affiliation with my main FoS and his halfhearted vote on Bub when all this was going on, which if you think about it kind of makes Bub probable townie given these FoSs are correct].
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Charter, what questions are you referring to?
I thought I have answered them like 4 times her. There is obviously a miscommunication. Be more specific. Give me the questions I didnt answer. All Lowell said was that I was attacking someone who was trying instead of lurkers. And I told him that I am pressuring someone I think is scum with the vote.-
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It was when he accepted my explanation but stayed on my wagon. That's what I've said time and time again.
Idk the way he worded it was kind of cocky and smartassish so instead of making an intelligible reply like I should have I just snipped back. But tbh he asked me a really dumb question in my own eyes. I was pressuring someone I thought was scum while prodding the lurkers, and he though that there was something wrong with attacking lurkers but voting boberz,. Its kind of like focusing your attention on the misbehaving kid on the playground while you're trying to prevent the other ones from eating the playdough.-
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Vote Counts so far
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Parama (2): Slaxx, Cogito Ergo Sum
boberz (2): xvart, DemonHybrid
Xine (1): WeaponsofMassConstruction
Slaxx (1): boberz
xvart (1): Oso
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boberz (4): xvart, DemonHybrid, Parama, charter
Parama (2): Cogito Ergo Sum, Lowell
Bub Bidderskins (2): Slaxx, WeaponsofMassConstruction
Slaxx (1): boberz
xvart (1): Oso
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boberz (6): xvart, DemonHybrid, Parama, charter, Cogito Ergo Sum, Slaxx
Slaxx (2): boberz, Lowell
Bub Bidderskins (1): WeaponsofMassConstruction
xvart (1): Oso
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boberz (5): xvart, Parama, charter, Cogito Ergo Sum, Slaxx
Slaxx (2): boberz, Lowell
Bub Bidderskins (1): WeaponsofMassConstruction
Cogito Ergo Sum (1): Oso
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boberz (4): xvart, Parama, Cogito Ergo Sum, Slaxx
Slaxx (3): boberz, Lowell, charter
Bub Bidderskins (1): WeaponsofMassConstruction
Cogito Ergo Sum (1): Oso
Parama (1): Xine
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boberz (4): xvart, Parama, Cogito Ergo Sum, Slaxx
Bub Bidderskins (3): WeaponsofMassConstruction, DemonHybrid, boberz
Slaxx (2): Lowell, charter
Parama (2): Xine, Bub Bidderskins
Cogito Ergo Sum (1): Oso
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Alright so with that up (mainly for my own reference) I shall get to work on ISOs.
Boberz: In the beginning Boberz seemed trying pretty hard to look townie, as many others have already stated. Despite what he might think I do think he was contradicting himself in several places, but they were almost all on game discussion. Ironically enough, digging through all these posts, the only people he seems to express concern for are Bub and I. I figured my ISO would be longer for boberz, but 90% of his content is useless theory discussion, whether he is using that as an excuse to post filler and stay away from scumhunting or is sincerely trying to defend himself is up to everyone else to decide for themselves. He was kind of indifferent to my L-1 vote, and I really don't know how to take that. I thought putting more pressure on him would serve me well, but it just caught me a bunch of heat instead. I don't know about Boberz. For now we'll stick him inneutral. Speaking of which,unvote
Budder: ISO 0 reeks of scum trying to look productive. He was not even paying attention when he addressed Boberz. ISO #1 still isn't much better. I don't feel like the questions are genuine, nor do they really seem to be trying to prove any sort of point. I think if he offered his own opinion I would be able to see the point of his questions better, but without his "thesis" the questions look halfhearted and maybe even a bit forced. ISO 5 he expresses concern about CES but still does not vote. We're pretty far in to the game now and everyone should at least be dropping FoSs and preferably votes. In ISO 8 he gets frustrated with Parama and calls a lot of what Parama said, which I thought made some sense (especially the part about Xine's refusal to vote Boberz at that time), then wrote it all off as OMGUS. Parama then points out that he has good logic and calls Bubberz scum for not agreeing.Possible scum.
Charter: Charter has been fairly townie so far in the way he posts and who he pressured. It's really frustrating to try to talk to this guy though, so as I do his ISO I will try for probably the final time to argue for myself against him in addition to doing his ISO. The only real post that bothers me from Charter's ISO is when he said CS's wagon targets looked good to him. I feel like he let CES off the hook pretty easy for a pretty rough bandwagon vote, but then even after I gave some reasoning for my vote he either didnt see it or wasnt satisfied with it. He keeps asserting I am scum with boberz, which doesnt make much sense considering I put him at L-1 and was one of the first to pressure him, the former for which he has found me extremely scummy for. In regards to his vote on Bub saying I was scum with Bub, all I can say is that I felt like he did the same exact thing with CES, but if he isnt scum with CES then he will understand that the logic that he is using for the alleged slaxx/bub scumbuddy pair isnt that solid. Idk, Ive always been bad with people who FoS me.Probably town.
Shower break, will do rest hopefully tonight.-
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CES: This should be fun. CES has been bandwagoning quite a bit, but at the same time not trying to be sneaky or covert about it. At first, as in the first couple times he did this, I just thought to myself "I feel like scum would try to disguise their uselessness a bit better" but after continuously vague content I can't really say his direct playstyle is a towntell anymore. Needs more postz and needs to express his opinion a bit more.Neutral.
DH: DH is proving to be a hard read from me. A lot of his material is also on the discussion of theory, and occasionally he express concern for Boberz in between these mounds of discussion. The unvote from him when I put Boberz at L-1 was a bit of a town tell, considering his important placement on Boberz wagon ( 3rd I think?). He could have easily left his vote where it was if Boberz had been his scum buddy during the initial stage of the game, so whether Boberz is scum or town is irrelevant, to me his unvote is a slight town tell. His vote on Bubberz is well explained, and he seems willing to actually communicate with bubberz on why he is being voted which shows he isn't really up for a fast lynch.Likely Town.
Lowell: Votes me, says i am scummy, I explain myself, votes bub. Needs more content.Neutral.-
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-At xvart, I was but not anymore. Yes, its a good indicator of my posting style, in game or out of game. I don't change my typing style in a game. That whole vote on me was a huge reach anyway at best. Also reread my ISO. That is NOT the way it happened. That was an unvote... Yes you are right, they do, but that is why I am posting my ISOs and opinions now. Your last quote is lulzy...So I can';t bring evidence on him if I am not the mighty crusader of his wagon?-
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