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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:56 am

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Post Post #6 (isolation #1) » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:02 am

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OH DAMN

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I'VE BEEN CAUGHT SO I'MMA OMGUS
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Post Post #8 (isolation #2) » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:08 am

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FFFF I DIDN'T MEAN TO CLAIM DAMMIT I HATE MY LIFE
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Post Post #10 (isolation #3) » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:10 pm

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Post Post #12 (isolation #4) » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:43 pm

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BLAH I HATE PLAYING SCUM I AM THE WORST AT IT
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Post Post #22 (isolation #5) » Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:02 pm

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Post Post #38 (isolation #6) » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:15 am

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Espeonage wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Parama


Go, go, go competing wagon
This is a good wagon.
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Post Post #39 (isolation #7) » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:15 am

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ICEninja wrote: Can everyone let me know their timezone? This is good to know because some people live on the other side of the world and post at strange times, and we could be waiting for you during lylo or something.
I also would like to see how much mafia experience you have.
Finally, how much general activity can we expect from you?
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Post Post #49 (isolation #8) » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:34 am

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Concerned wrote:(and puting Espeonage on L-2 seems a tad dicey.)
And in RVS obviously lynches will go through. Yeah, no. OMGUS is fun though.
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Post Post #50 (isolation #9) » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:38 am

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Concerned wrote:+2 Timezone, I've played 4 newbie games and one other mini on this site as well as numerous games on another site (although I fully acknowledge the huge difference in MS games), as for my activity it's usually quite high, but it dips occasionally when I lose interest in a game; never to the point where I need to be replaced however.

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Post Post #61 (isolation #10) » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:02 pm

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Mitsuru, your argument is fundamentally flawed. Staying in RVS can only hurt the town because we won't be generating any real info that way.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #11) » Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:32 pm

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Did you just FoS me for ICE's post? xD
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Post Post #78 (isolation #12) » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:12 pm

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Mitsuru Kirijo wrote:Phew. This is intense stuff. I'll need to think more carefully about what I say.
If you're town you can be 100% honest in every post without even trying and you really wouldn't have to think about what you're saying because as an honest townie nothing you say can really be scummy. But a statement like the one you made here is not OK at all.
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Post Post #85 (isolation #13) » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:52 am

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There's plenty of info to go off of, it's sufficient for at least a wagon at this point. You're generating nice scumlinks - I agree that if we lynch Mitsuru and he flips scum then you're a great place to start for tomorrow.
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Post Post #98 (isolation #14) » Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:33 am

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I'm not changing my vote. Mitsuru cracked under pressure, and as soon as a wagon formed on him he flaked. It's not a policy lynch - we caught scum and they ducked out as soon as they'd been caught. SSBF voting before even reading the thread based on what ICE has said is also totally scumlinkish.
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Post Post #115 (isolation #15) » Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:53 am

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Concerned, did you ever stop to think that MAYBE I had no motive for screwing around except for because it's hilarious and fun? :P
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Post Post #117 (isolation #16) » Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:02 am

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So your reason is incredibly WIFOM-y. Nice to know.
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Post Post #123 (isolation #17) » Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:02 am

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Mod: I'm going to be V/LA from 6/6 to 6/9.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #18) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:00 am

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I don't play the "meta" game. Espe should know this, considering he's played with me before. [ONGOING GAME]

Alamaster is playing aggressive, and people want to lynch him for that? *sigh*

No I'm not back, I have a small amount of time to be posting so I am.
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Post Post #221 (isolation #19) » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:01 am

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unvote, vote: easjo


Suspicions list in 200 + lack of content throughout the entire thread = scum

Concerned, I don't understand the AGM case because
1. I don't really see it myself
2. I'm lazy AND I've been V/LA
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Post Post #252 (isolation #20) » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:01 am

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Easjo is still more obvious scum but this isn't a bad wagon considering easjo isn't on it. And I love the way Espe is clinging to meta (my least favorite thing ever) as his defense. Needs more claiming ITT.
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Post Post #261 (isolation #21) » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:39 pm

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Already answered the question.
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Post Post #271 (isolation #22) » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:56 pm

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Claim. Or die.

I don't want to here a goddamn meta argument. You should know my stance on meta.
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Post Post #272 (isolation #23) » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:56 pm

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Grammar Nazi EBWOP: *hear
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Post Post #275 (isolation #24) » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:00 pm

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No. He needs to defend his ACTIONS, not his PLAYSTYLE.
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Post Post #279 (isolation #25) » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:03 pm

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unvote, vote: Espeonage


I'm not dealing with this. I don't care if I hammered a PR.
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Post Post #282 (isolation #26) » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:04 pm

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Post Post #283 (isolation #27) » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:04 pm

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DedicatedScribe wrote:Why not just be a bit more patient?
He's not going to defend himself. He just said it himself.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #28) » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:11 pm

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That's not defending your actions. I didn't want to hear about your meta. I wanted you to explain what you were doing in this thread. Not what you do every game. There's a definite difference.
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Post Post #289 (isolation #29) » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:15 pm

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I don't care if you're dead, still don't believe the claim. If you REALLY cared you would have claimed when I asked you to.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #30) » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:20 pm

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By the way SSBF he's hammered. Lynched. Dead.
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Post Post #322 (isolation #31) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:07 am

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I have no regrets. I asked Espe to claim here. He obviously saw the post, as he responded to my post after it. And he wasn't interested in defending himself. I don't care that I hammered Espeonage. If a hammer after a warning on a lynch a supported and on a player who wasn't interested in defending himself makes me scum, sure go ahead and lynch me. People jumping on my wagon are the opportunists. I'm sure there are 2 scum on the wagon already.

I have no reason to defend my actions, because several people here wouldn't have done any differently. And obviously I wasn't the only one who wanted to lynch Espe anyways - he had 6 votes on him prior to mine. You all act like the entire lynch is my fault.

Anyways, now let's move on to the people who have hopped on my wagon like the opportunistic scum they are.
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Parama wrote:I don't care if you're dead, still don't believe the claim. If you REALLY cared you would have claimed when I asked you to.
You sir, wasted a lynch. I'd expect this in the newbie games, not here.

vote: Parama
I didn't waste a lynch. Espe was a good lynch. He just happened to have a PR. It's not like a vig is a shiningly town role - shooting wrong hurts town more than it helps them. TBH, we'd probably be at 9 players right now if Espe had been kept alive. Also, the lack of a kill last night means we didn't lose a lynch at all.
easjo682 wrote:did you even allow espeon to claim parama?
I asked him to, and he posted twice after the request, neither with a claim, though one was a response to the post I made following the post where I asked for a claim. So I allowed him to claim and he didn't. It's not my fault that he didn't claim.
Concerned wrote:I call you out as opportunistic scum.

vote : parama
Oh, the wonderful sound of hypocrisy.

1. More people did give thoughts - I gave mine
2. Espe obviously wasn't going to claim - I gave him more than enough time.
Porochaz wrote:I wouldn't go that far as to call him scum but it is a good starting point for today.
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Concerned wrote:I call you out as opportunistic scum.
YAY! More scum! You don't think I'm scum, but you vote me anyways? No, you should be voting who you think is scum. You're just jumping on an opportunistic wagon. And Concerned doesn't seem to mention this in his future posts, even though it's blatantly obvious.
DedicatedScribe wrote: I really see what you're saying; there is NO excuse for what Parama did, and I will vote for that player soon, but...he's v/la till tomorrow. What today?
>excuse to come back and vote me if it makes the wagon bigger and pushes further towards a mislynch
Concerned wrote:(1) Denying me the information I wanted for day 2 is just scummy. I can't see parama-town, willfully ignoring me when I think I made a reasonable request, why would town-parama do that to me when I specifically asked for more information why why why why why.

...

(2) The lack of a night kill when parama was VLA just adds to my suspicious, as I feel the most likely reason for the lack of a NK is scum negligence.
1. I don't care about the request of one person, for starters. I did in fact give my own thoughts on the wagon, so you can't be yelling at me about it, as well. And I told Espe to claim, and I gave him a chance to do it. He didn't, so he died.

2. Lol, I left around noon on Sunday, and night started over 2 days prior to that. Plus, obviously there's only one scum in the game and only one scum to submit a kill. No, that's just plain retarded. Now you're just looking for whatever reasons you can to suspect me. Incredible reaching with this point.
Porochaz wrote:Thats fair enough, although I think its worth noting that there is more than one person in a scum group and whilst a lack of night kill by scum is a possibility there are others.
Dammit, so someone already told Concerned why his second point is completely wrong. Poro gets teh town points.
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I also initially had a town read on Parama, but I'm sorry, but the hammer was extremely scummy. Without giving Espeonage the oppertunity to claim, Parama managed to kill off a town power role. Sure Espenoage was acting scummy, but it's not like he deserved to die without having the oppertunity to claim.
I gave him an opportunity to claim. I asked him to claim. He posted twice following that post, and obviously he had read everything up to when he posted considering one of those posts was a response to another of my posts.
Also, sorry to push this campaign here but claims need to be coming at L-2, and with a request to claim. Yes I am at L-2, no I will not be claiming unless everyone in the town wants me to. That's how claims should always be done - no risk of quickhammer (haha) and it makes sure everyone has a part in the claiming.
Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:On top of that, when Parama hammered Espeonage, he said he wasn't dealing with Espenoage's play and he didn't care if he hammered a Power Role. The hammer was intentional, making it even more scummy.
Espeonage was talking about his meta, not his actions. I don't want to hear that meta crap. I asked him to explain his actions in thread, not irrelevant meta crap that nobody cares about, and he didn't do that either. And yes the hammer was intentional. I gave a warning. Is an intentional hammer worse than an accidental one these days? That makes no sense.
Concerned wrote:Eh, I know I'm all fire and brimstone at this point, but do you mind unvoting?
I'm not comfortable putting someone at L-2 with three (probable) scum still in game.

Especially before he gets a chance to respond.

I know I could unvote but I would rather not :P.
So you want someone to unvote but you don't want to do it yourself? If you
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wanted someone to unvote then you'd do it yourself.

And that's all I care to say. I wasn't stupid to hammer Espeonage, I have no need to defend it, and I don't regret it at all. And the people jumping on my case because of it are quite obviously scummier than me.
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Post Post #328 (isolation #32) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:03 am

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ICEninja wrote:I absolutely hated Parama's response to the pressure against him.
I don't care.

Also I'm not stupid. I scumhunt better than most people though they refuse to admit it.
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Post Post #334 (isolation #33) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:03 pm

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Parama wrote:I don't care that I hammered Espeonage.
So you don't care that we lost a town power role?
I can scumhunt, PRs are just there to make life easier. Plus I already gave my stance on vigs. I'd be happy to have the role but as it is I'm not particularly sad that we lost a vig, no. If it was an investigation or protective role, I probably wouldn't be saying this though.
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Parama wrote:I have no reason to defend my actions, because several people here wouldn't have done any differently.
After hammering a town power role which the town decided as a whole to let him claim, you have a ton of defending to do.
I asked him for a claim, and he didn't give one. I've already said this.
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Parama wrote:Also, sorry to push this campaign here but claims need to be coming at L-2, and with a request to claim. Yes I am at L-2, no I will not be claiming unless everyone in the town wants me to. That's how claims should always be done - no risk of quickhammer (haha) and it makes sure everyone has a part in the claiming.
L-2 isn't pushing as much pressure as L-1. Therefore, it is less likely for a person to claim. In that case, AlmasterGM should have claimed at L-2.
I said L-2 and with the entire town asking for a claim. L-2 is quite a lot of pressure btw, 5 votes on you.
Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:Also, quick hammers still do happen at L-2. You can be at L-2 now and four minutes later, bam! You're dead. Quick hammer is always a possibility and I'm surprise you dismissed the possibility of it aside from at L-1.
You can't hammer someone at L-2. durrrr
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Parama wrote:Is an intentional hammer worse than an accidental one these days?
Yes when it's done when we have a lot of time. Intentional hammers when we have a lot of time left is a well-known scum tactic, so there was absolutely no excuse for your hammer.
6 people intentionally jumped on the lynch before me. They were all ready for a lynch, I can assume. What makes my vote any different from theirs?

And yes I agree that easjo is a good lynch, but I want Concerned's responses to my post before I even think about changing my vote.

Also SSBF, lurking is not a scumtell but active lurking is, and you said it yourself that easjo is active lurking. So uh durrrr again.
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Post Post #343 (isolation #34) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:09 am

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Parama wrote:I have no regrets. I asked Espe to claim.
But you didn't wait for him TO CLAIM. Big difference.
Actually, I did, and he didn't. Are you even paying attention?
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Parama wrote:I have no reason to defend my actions, because several people here wouldn't have done any differently. And obviously I wasn't the only one who wanted to lynch Espe anyways - he had 6 votes on him prior to mine. You all act like the entire lynch is my fault.
First sentence above: Yes you do need to defend your actions. And I believe you are wrong that "several people here wouldn't have done any differently."

Second sentence above: You are forgetting that order matters. The lynching vote, in this case the 7th vote, needs to be handled much more carefully than the first 6 votes. Just because the first 6 votes were there did not mean they wanted Espeonage lynched WITHOUT A CHANCE TO CLAIM!

Third sentence above: The entire lynch without a claim is entirely
your fault
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First: No, I don't, and I'm not going to.
Second: ZOMG I voted him didn't I. So did 6 other people. You're wrong about this.
Third: Wow, so the 6 other people who voted Espe take no blame at all for the lynch. IAI = VI?
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I Am Innocent wrote:
Parama wrote:I don't care if you're dead, still don't believe the claim. If you REALLY cared you would have claimed when I asked you to.
You sir, wasted a lynch. I'd expect this in the newbie games, not here.

vote: Parama
I didn't waste a lynch. Espe was a good lynch. He just happened to have a PR. It's not like a vig is a shiningly town role - shooting wrong hurts town more than it helps them. TBH, we'd probably be at 9 players right now if Espe had been kept alive. Also, the lack of a kill last night means we didn't lose a lynch at all.
You did waste a lynch. Because if Espenoage had a chance to claim, votes most likely would have been removed, and we would have selected another target. Another target = chance to hit scum.

Espe was not a good lynch for that matter.
We technically didn't lose any chances to hit scum, actually. Yesterday we were allowed 2 mislynches, and today we're still allowed 2 mislynches. I'm going to back to my stance that vig isn't as important of a PR for town. I mean, I myself have played against a vig who shot down 2 townies in a row in a mini and lost a ML for the town (the 2nd ML led to endgame).
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Parama wrote:Also, sorry to push this campaign here but claims need to be coming at L-2, and with a request to claim. Yes I am at L-2, no I will not be claiming unless everyone in the town wants me to. That's how claims should always be done - no risk of quickhammer (haha) and it makes sure everyone has a part in the claiming.
Very anti town. More people will be claiming, since L-2 will be easier to get to then L-1. Plus the freedom to hammer at L-1 will cause people to be much more careful to push people to L-1, making it overall less pressure on players.
At L-1 someone can quickhammer before a claim. :roll:
I Am Innocent wrote:Campaign should be that claims come at L-1 by players who are not already on the wagon and willing to hammer. And the hammer does not drop until a claim comes, unless a deadline is coming.
Still allows for a quickhammer :roll:

You're completely missing the point of my argument.
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Post Post #346 (isolation #35) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:43 am

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DedicatedScribe wrote:Parama, you do realize you ARE defending yourself atm?
I'm just telling people why they're wrong. :D
DedicatedScribe wrote:But seriously, trying to convince a stubborn idiot that he did something wrong is more useless than trying to convince scum to hammer himself.
Stubborn, I am. Idiot, I am not.
DedicatedScribe wrote:We need to focus on scum, not just antitown.
Like easjo and like SSBF, and Concerned still needs to respond to my earlier post.
ICEninja wrote:I hate the fact that this is true. I insist right now that if I have anything to do with it I won't allow Parama to be with us in a lylo situation, but we don't need to worry about that quite yet.
Well, I'm unlynchable, so you'll have to get the scum to NK me. Which probably isn't going to happen now 8-)
ICEninja wrote:There was scum on the Espeonage miswagon. It might have been Parama, but it might have been others. We need to find who was most opportunistic on the wagon.
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Post Post #352 (isolation #36) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:09 am

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What? No, I'm just a guy who never gets lynched in mafia, hence "unlynchale". I didn't claim anything <.<
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Post Post #364 (isolation #37) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:06 am

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Okay I like Concerned's response.

unvote


DS's responses to IAI's accusation of SSBF/DS scumteam is terrible.
>dismisses it as WIFOM
>tries to redirect wagon away from SSBF to easjo ---> proves IAI's point, SSBF and DS are buddying up pretty obviously

The problem is, easjo is still a top scum pick from me. So I have to agree with him on the easjo wagon.

Though SSBF's reaction to the DS buddy seems genuine. But I've learned well about SSBF's scum play from marathon day, yes <_<

Easjo needs to DO SOMETHING.
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Post Post #366 (isolation #38) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:00 am

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hey look I voted for him <______<
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Post Post #376 (isolation #39) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:11 am

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Mod: I'm voting easjo
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Post Post #394 (isolation #40) » Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:34 am

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Assuming 3 scum like most minis have.
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Post Post #405 (isolation #41) » Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:11 pm

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Hi.
The easjo wagon is pretty chill.
SSBF should have claimed at L-2.
I'm not going to hammer this time though because you'd yell at me again.
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Post Post #410 (isolation #42) » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:47 pm

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FoS: Scumbuddy
Vote: Townie

^the best tell

Chevre, assuming 3 scum, then right now with 11 alive we can lynch wrong 2 times before we get to a LyLo scenario (4:3, 3:2, 2:1). So uh... yeah. It's just statistics.
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Post Post #426 (isolation #43) » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:32 am

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Chevre, I didn't say "assuming 3 scum " earlier because that's the assumption everyone is supposed to make <_<
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Post Post #456 (isolation #44) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:54 pm

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SSBF gives us reads, then he can be hammered.
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Post Post #459 (isolation #45) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:49 pm

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Okay I'm rereading through the thread and tbh I think I care narrow down the pool of potential scum to 4 players:
SSBF

IAI

Concerned
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With the 3 bolded being the most likely. I've found a nice link between IAI and SSBF, a similar one between easjo and SSBF, easjo is my scummiest read still, and SSBF is a great second. IAI is more in there because of a gut feel and because of the links - if SSBF flips town I'd be shocked and some of this might be a little less valid. Concerned's kinda dancing around the same thing I'm having issues with IAI and easjo for so he goes on the list as less scummy.
What I'm talking about are the interactions around the time of the Almaster wagon. I see: IAI chainsaw attacking Almaster, easjo bandwagoning on to this same wagon while giving no real contribution to anything at all, and Concerned magically changing his read on Almaster (stuff that he used to vote him in the first place becomes "not lynch-worthy" later on.)
Note: I think Chevre is being stupid about my assumption but I can see a possibility of it being a scumtell - still, it's less likely than my team here. Though SSBF's post to Chevre immediately after she replaced in... eugh, something seems off about that. And the FoS: Scumbuddy, Vote: Townie is obv. of note. Maybe put her 5th on the list.

More notes from after I typed up this first part:
Concerned gives easjo a free pass on lazy reads because this isn't a newbie game? What?
Chevre may be playing "FoS: Scumbuddy, Vote: Townie" game in her initial analysis post. This is also assuming SSBF flips scum though. Becomes invalid in the scenario of a town flip.
Easjo backs out of giving a read on Espe by saying "wait for a claim first"
Yeah that SSBF speculation is definitely lynchable.
IAI's D2 opening post is hilarious. 1. makes silly assumption that everyone plays like him 2. votes me without much elaboration - other people are going to build a case for him, he expects. They do.
SSBF's infamous self-contradiction post + vote on me, yay.
Concerned won't unvote even though he wants others to unvote. Do it yourself if you really care.
How does Concerned have meta on Town-Parama? And why is that relevant?
IAI completely antagonizes me in his reponse to my day-start post. Doesn't even bother to look at other options.
Oh look IAI is trying to link DS to SSBF in case SSBF gets lynched (which is looking more likely at the time he does this)
Hmm, I said I liked Concerned's response earlier? Maybe it's because he wants to take the credit for the lynch in case I end up being a ML - but IAI lead the wagon, not him. Still I agree with past-me, the response looks town.
Hmm, I noticed that I DID say "assuming 3 scum" about the setup BEFORE Chevre brought up the issue. Chevre seems to have intentionally ignored this.
IAI puts SSBF to L-1 and continues to try to link him to ICE. This is the point where lynch looks inevitable anyways.

Yep likin' my theory lots. Maybe IAI and Concerned are interchangeable in the top 3. I'mma be pissed if I haven't nailed at least 2 scum on this list, though I'm pretty sure all 3 should be here.
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Post Post #474 (isolation #46) » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:52 pm

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Almaster if it makes you feel any better my vote's still on easjo even though he's flaked and it will not be moving unless: A. It's needed to hammer SSBF or B. A replacement can convince me they're town.
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Post Post #493 (isolation #47) » Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:53 am

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May I?
Or should I give Sando a week to catch up and write analysis? <_<
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Post Post #495 (isolation #48) » Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:09 am

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vote: SSBF


I love hammers. They smash things and make them dead :)
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Post Post #499 (isolation #49) » Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:42 am

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Mod why did you do that. I wanted to fakehammer for reactions but nooo
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Post Post #500 (isolation #50) » Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:42 am

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^actually I did forget rule 9 when I first posted but I left it because I wanted reactions then the mod came and ruined it, oh well
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Post Post #527 (isolation #51) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:03 am

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vote: Concerned


I'd vote Sando but he hasn't posted much yet and I need to see more content from him before I decide whether or no easjo was scum or just lazy. Or both.
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Post Post #529 (isolation #52) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:31 pm

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I'd need to see more from you if I want to really judge your playerslot.
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Post Post #531 (isolation #53) » Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:46 am

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Well, my previous case still stands (near the end of D2) and his 522 and 523 seem like scum leaving their options open ("I don't want to lynhc DS, but meh AtE gets me so maybe we SHOULD lynch him")

I don't care about other people's reads on him. As soon as someone says they have a town read on a scum, at least one other person will almost immediately agree, and at least one person agreeing with the town read on the scum is their scumbuddy.

You forget that scum LIE in this game.
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Post Post #546 (isolation #54) » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:42 am

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I am definitely not a VI. Please get your facts straight.
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Post Post #563 (isolation #55) » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:41 am

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Okay sorry for not posting much but nothing has changed about Sando's slot,
unvote, vote: Sando
please kill it, easjo was terrible and Sando isn't doing any better.
Sando wrote:So you have gut reads on 3 people that you can't justify, and therefore by process of elimination, these 3-4 people are scummy? Not exactly helpful.
Gut reads = a feeling that's impossible to explain

And Concerned did justify his reads as much as possible.

So uh yeah you're really overreacting to his post here.
And where's the content from you? You made one or two long posts after you replaced in and since then you've only been reacting to other people's opinions on your slot. I mean yeah this game is kinda dead anyways but it doesn't justify reaction-only play.
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Post Post #577 (isolation #56) » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:35 am

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Mod: I'm V/LA 7/17-7/24
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Post Post #581 (isolation #57) » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:23 pm

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So what exactly changed, then?
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Post Post #614 (isolation #58) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:55 am

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I barely even care about this game anymore, note that I was V/LA for the past week.

I'm just going to sheep a wagon I like because all my reads are probably wrong and stuff. Meh.
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Post Post #620 (isolation #59) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:45 pm

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It's highly possible that all 3 scum are on the Llama wagon. Who knows? .-.

But I still think Sando is the best lynch. He's on the Llama wagon so
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Post Post #622 (isolation #60) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:47 pm

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I vote who I want to lynch.
I want to lynch Sando.
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Post Post #624 (isolation #61) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:52 pm

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But then I'd be lying.
Also you just called me a townie.

The fact of the matter is that Llama's most recent post gives me bad vibes and makes me not opposed to his lynch. Namely the second part where he makes a whole load of WIFOM.
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Post Post #629 (isolation #62) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:20 pm

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Oh cool. So I just suck at reading Concerned.
Let's lynch Sando.
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Post Post #631 (isolation #63) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:32 pm

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I did make a case.
Though some of it is invalid now I think... meh. I should probably reread the day from the very beginning.
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Post Post #644 (isolation #64) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:53 am

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I guess Chevre was town then.
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Post Post #647 (isolation #65) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:22 am

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Scumteam: Sando, AGM, ???
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Post Post #653 (isolation #66) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:55 am

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Educated guess based on the following reasons:
1. Because the wagon sucked
2. Because the people on the wagon were scummy
3. Because Chevre looked more honest than half the people on the wagon
4. Because Sando hammered

And screw you, I WILL vote for the obvious scum.
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Post Post #656 (isolation #67) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:13 am

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Unless mafia wanted to give us an extra mislynch for the lulz, Concerned is confirmed town.
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Post Post #658 (isolation #68) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:21 am

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Poro.
N1 there were 3 scum. If all 3 of them couldn't find the time to submit a kill, then I don't know what the hell they were doing all night. And I don't seem them choosing to NK and give the town another ML.
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Post Post #662 (isolation #69) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:44 am

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Hey AGM, I voted too.
Also, Poro's confusion is giving me odd town vibes, though I'm not sure if I should be trusting my gut at this point x_x
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Post Post #674 (isolation #70) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:26 pm

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This game is stalling on a Sando lynch.

Can we lynch him yet?
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Post Post #686 (isolation #71) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:06 pm

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Sando wrote:Parama obviously has a personal vendetta against me, I can't reference other games, but he's just done the same thing in another game, where he's gunned for me (tunneling) while providing absolutely no reasoning. Recent experience has taught me that there's no point in arguing with him, he's made up his mind and nothing will change it.
Um, no. I think you're the scummiest player here. It's nothing personal.

Also, about the every-other day thing: see Espe's claim <_<
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Post Post #688 (isolation #72) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:37 pm

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Hey Sando look at Espe's claim:
Espeonage wrote:By even day vig I meant a kill one night no kill the next. Then a kill agin the night after.

Oh well. Your loss.
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Post Post #689 (isolation #73) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:34 pm

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...

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS GAME

IT'S LIKE NOBODY GIVES A DAMN WHO WINS
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Post Post #694 (isolation #74) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:51 pm

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Sando wrote:I really do enjoy being accused of not contributing when all that's happened since my last content post is people saying they can't be bothered playing.

Why is ICE using the same bad and incorrect PR description as Esp a good thing or indicative of a real claim?
If I'm getting what the mod's trying to do with the setup, then a tracker also happens to be the perfect role for this situation.
Plus, if the mod put in cop + doc then I will be really pissed at him since he should know better.
Also, where did I accuse you of not contributing?

On a side note, Nikanor is scum.
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Post Post #696 (isolation #75) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:17 pm

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Nikanor in DCI Mafia wrote:I Lurk lurk lurk as scum.
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Post Post #699 (isolation #76) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:54 pm

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I already told you, I am bored of this game. I have no motivation to provide evidence or even put effort into this game because it would not be fun to do so.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #77) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:28 pm

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Yeah this thread sucks.
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Post Post #704 (isolation #78) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:34 pm

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I'd be up for lynching Nikanor, to be honest. I like a Sando lynch better. A Poro lynch wouldn't make me cry. Concerned and ICE are off limits for now, as far as I care.
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Post Post #710 (isolation #79) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:59 am

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Same.
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Post Post #712 (isolation #80) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:49 pm

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It's more that he's less likely to be scum, not confirmed town.
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Post Post #715 (isolation #81) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:29 pm

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Wow I totally missed Poro's claim.

And yeah Sando should be flipping scum soon, and all that jazz.
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Post Post #717 (isolation #82) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:32 pm

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unvote


P.S. Sando wasn't at L-1. I like ICE's trap there.
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Post Post #720 (isolation #83) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:34 pm

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He was seeing if scum would quickhammer <.<
Almaster now looks scummier.
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Post Post #734 (isolation #84) » Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:16 pm

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I'm honestly not as sure about this as before... Almaster's attempted hammer really irks me.
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Post Post #738 (isolation #85) » Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:03 pm

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Hmm, maybe Nik isn't scum.
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Post Post #741 (isolation #86) » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:34 am

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I'm waiting for something.
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Post Post #742 (isolation #87) » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:02 pm

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Actually, screw it.

I can say with 100% surety that the scumteam of Nik/Poro/Sando is basically confirmed. Why? The other two aren't willing to lynch Sando in Lylo, and we have an empty slot that's nearly a confirmed townie. In fact, without a Concerned replacement, scum will win this by default.

Vote: Day cannot end until at least 72 hours after a replacement for Concerned is found
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Post Post #752 (isolation #88) » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:08 am

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My preferred lynch order is Sando > Nik > Poro and I don't think I want to deviate from that. If needed I'll hammer it at deadline, but otherwise I don't think I'll be switching.
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Post Post #759 (isolation #89) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:34 am

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gandalf, vote Sando.
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Post Post #767 (isolation #90) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:44 am

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vote: Sando


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Post Post #770 (isolation #91) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:30 am

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There we go, now the scumteam's basically set in my mind.

;)

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Post Post #775 (isolation #92) » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:49 am

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This should be pretty easy.
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Post Post #786 (isolation #93) » Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:40 am

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I want ICE's track report.
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Post Post #789 (isolation #94) » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:36 pm

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Andrius wrote:He's an odd-night tracker, if I'm correct. So N4 he did nothing.
Oh yeah.

Forgot that part, hehe.
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Post Post #791 (isolation #95) » Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:55 pm

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For some reason I don't want to hammer Andrius. Something is really bugging me about Almaster's play today. And I want to hear from ICE regardless.
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Post Post #792 (isolation #96) » Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:00 pm

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I feel safer lynching Poro than I do lynching Andrius at this point. Eugh. ICE is confirmed town IMO and Almaster is likely town, but there's something bugging me about his player today and it looks like he could be scum trying to rush a ML.
But it seems unlikely that Almaster and Poro are scum together. Hmm.
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Post Post #799 (isolation #97) » Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:37 pm

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800th post!
Yeah town probably lost there. Meh. I don't even care anymore.
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Post Post #800 (isolation #98) » Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:38 pm

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Andrius wrote:
IceNinja wrote: Plus this gives Andrius a chance to actually play.
Thanks! :D
And I feel like I've played with you before... though I know I haven't... weird huh?
Can you please claim scum and tell us this hellish game is over now?
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Post Post #803 (isolation #99) » Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:50 pm

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Oh. Okay. Poro is being a Pie.
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Post Post #806 (isolation #100) » Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:59 pm

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There is no way we could have a SK. Simply not enough kills.
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Post Post #809 (isolation #101) » Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:23 pm

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Of course someone's lying. News flash: Mafia lie in this game!
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Post Post #814 (isolation #102) » Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:35 pm

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Andrius wrote:I operated in POWERFUL WIZARD mafia under the impression you were female, Parama. ^^;
Why the hell does everyone think that.
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Post Post #820 (isolation #103) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:08 am

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Almaster is probably the mafia but whatever.
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Post Post #822 (isolation #104) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:11 am

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It's not like you've been here for the 2 months of NO ACTIVITY this game had.
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Post Post #823 (isolation #105) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:14 am

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P.S. I am confirmed town so you two are crossing. If you don't know why I'm confirmed town, you are dumb.
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Post Post #825 (isolation #106) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:16 am

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Indeed. I'm confirmed town. Lynching me would be a massive logical failure at this point.
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Post Post #827 (isolation #107) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:20 am

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Post Post #828 (isolation #108) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:22 am

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I'm not going to hammer straightaway - I want to hear arguments for the other being scum.
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Post Post #832 (isolation #109) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:33 am

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If I was scum, I could've hammered Andrius when he was at L-1 for gg.
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Post Post #835 (isolation #110) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:51 am

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Andrius, tell me why you're town and why AGM is scum.
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Post Post #838 (isolation #111) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:21 am

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AlmasterGM wrote:1) Porochaz decided to bus me two days ago in lylo instead of going for the win, lolololololol
He switched to Nikanor to try and start a counterwagon to the Sando wagon, it looks like.
AlmasterGM wrote:2) I decided to bus both my buddies in lylo twice instead of going for the win, lolololololol
You wouldn't have gotten support from the town on any other lynches. You only switched off Andrius after you saw that nobody was hammering.
AlmasterGM wrote:3) I happened to not send in kill any of the times Ice tracked me, lololololol
He tracked you once.
AlmasterGM wrote:4) Nikanor is town, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
SAMP and Jalyn were good, Nikanor just failed miserably.
AlmasterGM wrote:5) Nikanor is town, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Blah blah blah
AlmasterGM wrote:If you're town, then I'm confirmed scum to you, Andrius. So why not vote?

Because you aren't town, and that cognitive dissonance is getting to you. That's why. SCOOP EM UP.
The only argument in your post that I like. "If I were scum" arguments suck.
Andrius wrote:
Llama wrote: You and ice both are scum reads, however I do not think you can be scum together.
And who dies that night? (Granted, he was the Doc, but still.)
He died BECAUSE he was the doc, and basically confirmed town.
Andrius wrote:
AGM wrote: COMEON SCUM, BUS YOUR PARTNERS. GET SOME TOWN CRED.
You seem alot more cocky than I remember.
Not a scumtell <_<
Andrius wrote:
AlmasterGM wrote:
Parama wrote:I vote who I want to lynch.
I want to lynch Sando.
Do you TRY to play as anti-town as possible?

We aren't lynching Sando. The deadline is coming. Put your vote to better use.
Semi-defense of Sando.
Totally agree with this.
Andrius wrote:
Poro wrote: I don't agree with Almasters points. Im not a huge Al fan, either, which I kinda touched on earlier and hope to go into more detail about tomorrow.
The scumbuddy defense that I employ often.
???
Andrius wrote:
Parama wrote: And screw you, I WILL vote for the obvious scum. vote: Sando
AGM and Poro are the other two scum, I'm pretty sure.
Good posting. Stick it to that scum.
I'm at least 2/3, yes.
Andrius wrote:Yeah, Nikanor played badly.
But we all play badly. Hell, I played terribad scum in POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA, and terribad town in that /invitational game. I got lynched on page 5. /fail
+1
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Sando Lynch wrote: Vote Count 28!

Sando - 4 (ICEninja, AlmasterGM, gandalf5166, Parama)
Nikanor - 1 (Porochaz)

Not voting - 2 (Nikanor, Sando)
Odd how there isn't a scum bussing his buddy, yes?
Actually, if we hadn't gotten a replacement, the game would've stalled to a NL.
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Poro Lynch wrote: Vote Count 29!

Porochaz - 3 (Parama, ICEninja, AlmasterGM)
Andrius - 1 (Porochaz)

Not voting - 1 (Andrius)
More scum lynches without bussing?
AGM was on you until he hammered Poro. And your slot was about to be lynched before I switched focus to Poro.
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SSBF Lynch wrote: Super Smash Bros. Fan - 6 (AlmasterGM, I Am Innocent, DedicatedScribe, ICEninja, Porochaz, Parama)
Parama - 1 (Chevre)
Chevre - 1 (Concerned)

Not voting - 3 (Sando, Jalyn, Super Smash Bros. Fan)
Votecounts don't lie. There's two scum on this lynch.
I don't really like VCA.
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Chevre Lynch wrote: Chevre - 5 (Concerned, LlamaFluff, AlmasterGM, ICEninja, Sando)
ICEninja - 2 (Jalyn, Chevre)
Sando - 1 (Parama)

Not voting - 1 (Porochaz)
AGM also gave up a scum-read on ICE to lynch Chevre.
Meh.
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Espeonage Lynch wrote: Espeonage - 6 (Super Smash Bros. Fan, Concerned, ICEninja, DedicatedScribe, Super Awesome Mega Pimp, Chevre)
AlmasterGM - 2 (Porochaz, easjo682)
ICEninja - 1 (I Am Innocent)
DedicatedScribe - 1 (AlmasterGM)
easjo682 - 1 (Parama)

Not voting - 1 (Espeonage)
Scum avoiding the D1 Lynch wagon. Even some bussing from Poro.
Meh.
Andrius wrote:Parama, go with your gut.
My gut is confused.
Andrius wrote:Its up to you, Parama.
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Post Post #840 (isolation #112) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:47 am

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OH GOD WHYYYYYY
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Post Post #842 (isolation #113) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:28 am

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Post Post #846 (isolation #114) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:45 am

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I'm waiting until I find something hammer-worthy from someone.
Also, explain cognitive dissonance to me, please.
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Post Post #852 (isolation #115) » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:15 am

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Lack of activity is bad.

Brain says Andrius, gut says AGM, sanity says SCREW YOU
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Post Post #855 (isolation #116) » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:39 am

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You should know that I have no heart <.<
How else would I have been able to betray everyone in POWERFUL WIZARD? Gamma is an awesome guy ;_;
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Post Post #859 (isolation #117) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:11 am

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Uuuuuugh. THIS GAME.
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Post Post #860 (isolation #118) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:11 am

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I DON'T WANT TO HAMMER EITHER OF YOU :(
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Post Post #863 (isolation #119) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:08 pm

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uuuugh
I feel like dropping a hammer tomorrow but I DON'T KNOW WHO IS SCUM ARGH
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Post Post #864 (isolation #120) » Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:51 am

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Okay.
Stop with the silence.

I want each of you to write up a post giving reasons why you're town. Do not mention the other guy at all. And no "My Role PM says I'm town" nonsense, I want solid logic.
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Post Post #865 (isolation #121) » Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:13 pm

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Post Post #867 (isolation #122) » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:02 am

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hey Andrius I know you've been active enough across the site to have at least posted something here in the last 24 hours
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Post Post #868 (isolation #123) » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:27 am

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The issues I have right now:

The last time I saw a player replace out right after scum was lynched, they were that scum's buddy. Nik replaced out right after Sando was lynched. Logic says that he's scum due to this.

Things bugging me about AGM:
AlmasterGM wrote:
Parama wrote:I vote who I want to lynch.
I want to lynch Sando.
Do you TRY to play as anti-town as possible?

We aren't lynching Sando. The deadline is coming. Put your vote to better use.
vote on scum = bad use of vote lolno
AlmasterGM wrote:Either way, ICEninja and Sando look PRETTY BAD. And they looked PRETTY BAD before, too.

So I'm thinking ICEninja.
FoS: Scumbuddy, Vote: Townie.
In a sense.
AlmasterGM wrote:OR HOW ABOUT WE JUST JUST LYNCH NIKANOR?

Would you be on board with that?
Scum trying to move away from sandoscum lynch to nikanortown lynch?
AlmasterGM wrote:I feel like Sando is the LEAST likely of the three to be scum.

Can we just lynch Nikanor, pl0x?
see above
AlmasterGM wrote:Alright, I can get on board with this.

Vote: Sando
attempting quickhammer on scum, eh?
AlmasterGM wrote:I think we lynch Andrius.

Porochaz, like, COULD be town. He ISN'T, but there is a microscopically small chance. Nikanor, on the other hand, was just scummy as fuck. The end. You don't replace in and then lurk the WHOLE DAMN DAY while STILL POSTING IN OTHER GAMES. If Nikanor is town, then he is the worst fucking town player ever and this loss is 100% his fault and I won't even feel bad.

LOL WHO AM I EVEN KIDDING WITH THIS WELL-REASONED LOGIC, THE SCUMTEAM IS ANDRIUS AND POROCHAZ, GG KTHXBI.

Vote: Andrius
FoS: Scumbuddy, Vote: Townie

meeeeeh

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AlmasterGM wrote:P.S. If you claim scum we'll lynch Porochaz first, I promise.
AlmasterGM wrote:Gah.

Chevre is scummy, but I can't get that itch out of my head that she is being used as lynchbait.

Definitely not voting llama today, there are too many scummy people on that wagon.
AlmasterGM wrote:The fact that neither wagon is going anywhere makes me think they are both scum on the Llama wagon and that llama is town.

COMEON SCUM, BUS YOUR PARTNERS. GET SOME TOWN CRED.
I should probably hammer Andrius but meeeeeh
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Post Post #871 (isolation #124) » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:10 am

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AlmasterGM wrote:
Parama wrote:Scum trying to move away from sandoscum lynch to nikanortown lynch?
Um, Andrius/Nikanor isn't town. Remember, from my perspective, it's either you or him. And it's clearly him.

Most of the other args are the same thing - they presume Andrius is town. Which he isn't.
To make arguments against you, I have to assume you're scum, which implies Andrius is town. So no, this doesn't work.
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Post Post #875 (isolation #125) » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:01 am

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So I kinda looked at Andrius' ISO, and I noticed he hasn't really done much of anything since he replaced in :/
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Post Post #876 (isolation #126) » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:16 am

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WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS.... VOTE COUNT ANALYSIS.


Espeonage
- 3 (
Mitsuru Kirijo
,
DedicatedScribe
,
easjo682
)
Parama
- 2 (
Amish_Charney
, Super Awesome Mega Pimp)
Super Awesome Mega Pimp - 1 (
Parama
)
easjo682
- 1 (
Espeonage
)

Not voting - 5 (
AlmasterGM
,
Concerned
,
I Am Innocent
,
ICEninja
,
Porochaz
)

Espeonage
- 3 (
Mitsuru Kirijo
,
easjo682
,
I Am Innocent
)
Parama
- 3 (
Amish_Charney
, Super Awesome Mega Pimp,
Concerned
)
Mitsuru Kirijo
- 2 (
Porochaz
,
Parama
)
Porochaz
- 1 (
DedicatedScribe
)
ICEninja
- 1 (
Espeonage
)
DedicatedScribe
- 1 (AlmasterGM)

Not voting - 1 (
ICEninja
)

Vote Count 3!

AlmasterGM - 3 (
ICEninja
,
Super Smash Bros. Fan
,
Concerned
)
Super Smash Bros. Fan
- 3 (
Porochaz
,
Parama
, Super Awesome Mega Pimp)
Espeonage
- 2 (
easjo682
,
I Am Innocent
)
Parama
- 1 (
Amish_Charney
)
Porochaz
- 1 (
DedicatedScribe
)
ICEninja
- 1 (
Espeonage
)
DedicatedScribe
- 1 (AlmasterGM)

Not voting – 0

Vote Count 4!

AlmasterGM - 3 (
ICEninja
,
Super Smash Bros. Fan
,
Concerned
)
Super Smash Bros. Fan
- 2 (
Parama
, Super Awesome Mega Pimp)
Espeonage
- 2 (
easjo682
,
I Am Innocent
)
Parama
- 1 (
Amish_Charney
)
Porochaz
- 1 (
DedicatedScribe
)
ICEninja
- 1 (
Espeonage
)
DedicatedScribe
- 1 (AlmasterGM)

Not voting - 1 (
Porochaz
)

Vote Count 5!

AlmasterGM - 3 (
ICEninja
,
I Am Innocent
,
Porochaz
)
Super Smash Bros. Fan
- 2 (
Parama
, Super Awesome Mega Pimp)
Espeonage
- 1 (
Super Smash Bros. Fan
)
Parama
- 1 (
Amish_Charney
)
Porochaz
- 1 (
DedicatedScribe
)
ICEninja
- 1 (
Espeonage
)
DedicatedScribe
- 1 (AlmasterGM)

Not voting - 2 (
easjo682
,
Concerned
)

Vote Count 6!

AlmasterGM - 4 (
ICEninja
,
I Am Innocent
,
Porochaz
,
Concerned
)
Super Smash Bros. Fan
- 2 (
Parama
, Super Awesome Mega Pimp)
Espeonage
- 1 (
Super Smash Bros. Fan
)
Parama
- 1 (
Amish_Charney
)
Porochaz
- 1 (
DedicatedScribe
)
ICEninja
- 1 (
Espeonage
)
DedicatedScribe
- 1 (AlmasterGM)

Not voting - 1 (
easjo682
)

Vote Count 7!

Espeonage
- 3 (
Super Smash Bros. Fan
,
Concerned
,
ICEninja
)
AlmasterGM - 2 (
Porochaz
,
easjo682
)
Super Smash Bros. Fan
- 2 (
Parama
, Super Awesome Mega Pimp)
Parama
- 1 (
Amish_Charney
)
Porochaz
- 1 (
DedicatedScribe
)
ICEninja
- 1 (
I Am Innocent
)
DedicatedScribe
- 1 (AlmasterGM)

Not voting - 1 (
Espeonage
)

Vote Count 8!

Espeonage
- 6 (
Super Smash Bros. Fan
,
Concerned
,
ICEninja
,
DedicatedScribe
, Super Awesome Mega Pimp,
Chevre
)
AlmasterGM - 2 (
Porochaz
,
easjo682
)
ICEninja
- 1 (
I Am Innocent
)
DedicatedScribe
- 1 (AlmasterGM)
easjo682
- 1 (
Parama
)

Not voting - 1 (
Espeonage
)

Vote Count 9!

Espeonage
- 7 (
Super Smash Bros. Fan
,
Concerned
,
ICEninja
,
DedicatedScribe
, Super Awesome Mega Pimp,
Chevre
,
Parama
)
AlmasterGM - 2 (
Porochaz
,
easjo682
)
ICEninja
- 1 (
I Am Innocent
)
DedicatedScribe
- 1 (AlmasterGM)

Not voting - 1 (
Espeonage
)

Vote Count 10!

Parama
- 3 (
I Am Innocent
,
Porochaz
,
Super Smash Bros. Fan
)
Super Smash Bros. Fan
- 3 (Super Awesome Mega Pimp, AlmasterGM,
Chevre
)
easjo682
- 1 (
DedicatedScribe
)
Concerned
- 1 (
Parama
)

Not voting - 3 (
Concerned
,
easjo682
,
ICEninja
)

Vote Count 11!

Parama
- 3 (
I Am Innocent
,
Porochaz
,
Super Smash Bros. Fan
)
Super Smash Bros. Fan
- 3 (Super Awesome Mega Pimp, AlmasterGM,
Chevre
)
easjo682
- 2 (
DedicatedScribe
,
ICEninja
)

Not voting - 3 (
Concerned
,
easjo682
,
Parama
)

Vote Count 12!

Super Smash Bros. Fan
- 4 (Super Awesome Mega Pimp, AlmasterGM,
Porochaz
,
I Am Innocent
)
easjo682
- 3 (
DedicatedScribe
,
ICEninja
,
Parama
)
Parama
- 2 (
Super Smash Bros. Fan
,
Chevre
)

Not voting - 2 (
Concerned
,
easjo682
)

Vote Count 13!

Super Smash Bros. Fan
- 4 (AlmasterGM,
Porochaz
,
I Am Innocent
,
DedicatedScribe
)
Parama
- 2 (
Super Smash Bros. Fan
,
Chevre
)
easjo682
- 1 (
Parama
)
Chevre
- 1 (
Concerned
)

Not voting - 3 (
easjo682
,
ICEninja
, Jalyn)

Vote Count 14!

Super Smash Bros. Fan
- 4 (AlmasterGM,
I Am Innocent
,
DedicatedScribe
,
ICEninja
)
Parama
- 1 (
Chevre
)
easjo682
- 1 (
Parama
)
Chevre
- 1 (
Concerned
)

Not voting - 4 (
easjo682
, Jalyn,
Super Smash Bros. Fan
,
Porochaz
)

Vote Count 15!

Super Smash Bros. Fan
- 5 (AlmasterGM,
I Am Innocent
,
DedicatedScribe
,
ICEninja
,
Porochaz
)
Parama
- 1 (
Chevre
)
Sando
- 1 (
Parama
)
Chevre
- 1 (
Concerned
)

Not voting - 3 (
Sando
, Jalyn,
Super Smash Bros. Fan
)

Vote Count 16!

Super Smash Bros. Fan
- 6 (AlmasterGM,
I Am Innocent
,
DedicatedScribe
,
ICEninja
,
Porochaz
,
Parama
)
Parama
- 1 (
Chevre
)
Chevre
- 1 (
Concerned
)

Not voting - 3 (
Sando
, Jalyn,
Super Smash Bros. Fan
)

Vote Count 17!

DedicatedScribe
- 2 (
Sando
,
Chevre
)

Not voting - 7 (AlmasterGM,
Concerned
,
DedicatedScribe
,
ICEninja
, Jalyn,
Parama
,
Porochaz
)

Vote Count 18!

DedicatedScribe
- 2 (
Sando
,
Chevre
)
Chevre
- 1 (
Concerned
)

Not voting - 6 (AlmasterGM,
DedicatedScribe
,
ICEninja
, Jalyn,
Parama
,
Porochaz
)

Vote Count 19!

DedicatedScribe
- 3 (
Sando
,
Chevre
,
ICEninja
)
ICEninja
- 2 (Jalyn, AlmasterGM)
Chevre
- 1 (
Concerned
)
Concerned
- 1 (
Parama
)

Not voting - 2 (
DedicatedScribe
,
Porochaz
)

Vote Count 20!

DedicatedScribe
- 3 (
Sando
,
Chevre
,
ICEninja
)
ICEninja
- 2 (Jalyn, AlmasterGM)
Sando
- 2 (
Parama
,
LlamaFluff
)
Chevre
- 1 (
Concerned
)

Not voting - 1 (
Porochaz
)

Vote Count 21!

LlamaFluff
- 3 (
Sando
,
Chevre
,
ICEninja
)
ICEninja
- 2 (Jalyn, AlmasterGM)
Chevre
- 2 (
Concerned
,
LlamaFluff
)
Sando
- 1 (
Parama
)

Not voting - 1 (
Porochaz
)

Vote Count 22!

Chevre
- 4 (
Concerned
,
LlamaFluff
, AlmasterGM,
ICEninja
)
LlamaFluff
- 1 (
Chevre
)
ICEninja
- 1 (Jalyn)
Sando
- 1 (
Parama
)

Not voting - 1 (
Porochaz
,
Sando
)

Vote Count 23!

Chevre
- 5 (
Concerned
,
LlamaFluff
, AlmasterGM,
ICEninja
,
Sando
)
ICEninja
- 2 (Jalyn,
Chevre
)
Sando
- 1 (
Parama
)

Not voting - 1 (
Porochaz
)

Vote Count 24!

Sando
- 1 (
Parama
)

Not voting - 6 (AlmasterGM,
Concerned
,
ICEninja
, Nikanor,
Sando
,
Porochaz
)

Vote Count 25!

Sando
- 1 (
Parama
)
AlmasterGM - 1 (
Porochaz
)

Not voting - 5 (AlmasterGM,
Concerned
,
ICEninja
, Nikanor,
Sando
)

Vote Count 26!

Sando
- 1 (
ICEninja
)
AlmasterGM - 1 (
Porochaz
)

Not voting - 5 (
Concerned
, Nikanor,
Sando
,
Parama
, AlmasterGM)

Vote Count 27!

Sando
- 2 (
ICEninja
, AlmasterGM)
AlmasterGM - 1 (
Porochaz
)

Not voting - 5 (
Concerned
, Nikanor,
Sando
,
Parama
, AlmasterGM)

Vote Count 28!

Sando
- 4 (
ICEninja
, AlmasterGM,
gandalf5166
,
Parama
)
Nikanor - 1 (
Porochaz
)

Not voting - 2 (Nikanor,
Sando
)

Vote Count 29!

Porochaz
- 3 (
Parama
,
ICEninja
, AlmasterGM)
Andrius - 1 (
Porochaz
)

Not voting - 1 (Andrius)

Vote Count 30!

Andrius - 1 (AlmasterGM)
AlmasterGM - 1 (Andrius)

Not voting - 1 (
Parama
)

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Post Post #877 (isolation #127) » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:16 am

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P.S. That took 10 minutes. If you want to ask me how I did it so quickly, do it post-game plz :D
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Post Post #880 (isolation #128) » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:56 am

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Parama wrote: Vote Count 7!

Espeonage
- 3 (
Super Smash Bros. Fan
,
Concerned
,
ICEninja
)
AlmasterGM - 2 (
Porochaz
,
easjo682
)
Super Smash Bros. Fan
- 2 (
Parama
, Super Awesome Mega Pimp)
Parama
- 1 (
Amish_Charney
)
Porochaz
- 1 (
DedicatedScribe
)
ICEninja
- 1 (
I Am Innocent
)
DedicatedScribe
- 1 (AlmasterGM)

Not voting - 1 (
Espeonage
)

Vote Count 8!

Espeonage
- 6 (
Super Smash Bros. Fan
,
Concerned
,
ICEninja
,
DedicatedScribe
, Super Awesome Mega Pimp,
Chevre
)
AlmasterGM - 2 (
Porochaz
,
easjo682
)
ICEninja
- 1 (
I Am Innocent
)
DedicatedScribe
- 1 (AlmasterGM)
easjo682
- 1 (
Parama
)

Not voting - 1 (
Espeonage
)

Vote Count 9!

Espeonage
- 7 (
Super Smash Bros. Fan
,
Concerned
,
ICEninja
,
DedicatedScribe
, Super Awesome Mega Pimp,
Chevre
,
Parama
)
AlmasterGM - 2 (
Porochaz
,
easjo682
)
ICEninja
- 1 (
I Am Innocent
)
DedicatedScribe
- 1 (AlmasterGM)

Not voting - 1 (
Espeonage
)
These kinda speak for themselves. Both confirmed scum on the AGM wagon, SAMP being the only non-confirmed player on the Espe wagon.

Fun fact: 0 confirmed scum on SSBF wagon, 1 confirmed scum on SSBF wagon, other confirmed scum on Chevre wagon. Ask me how well that bodes for the single unconfirmed player on the SSBF wagon.
Parama wrote:Vote Count 25!

Sando
- 1 (
Parama
)
AlmasterGM - 1 (
Porochaz
)

Not voting - 5 (AlmasterGM,
Concerned
,
ICEninja
, Nikanor,
Sando
)

Vote Count 26!

Sando
- 1 (
ICEninja
)
AlmasterGM - 1 (
Porochaz
)

Not voting - 5 (
Concerned
, Nikanor,
Sando
,
Parama
, AlmasterGM)

Vote Count 27!

Sando
- 2 (
ICEninja
, AlmasterGM)
AlmasterGM - 1 (
Porochaz
)

Not voting - 5 (
Concerned
, Nikanor,
Sando
,
Parama
, AlmasterGM)
Nice counterwagon attempt there, Poro.
Parama wrote:Vote Count 28!

Sando
- 4 (
ICEninja
, AlmasterGM,
gandalf5166
,
Parama
)
Nikanor - 1 (
Porochaz
)

Not voting - 2 (Nikanor,
Sando
)

Vote Count 29!

Porochaz
- 3 (
Parama
,
ICEninja
, AlmasterGM)
Andrius - 1 (
Porochaz
)

Not voting - 1 (Andrius)
The ones that bug me most. Poro is dead set on lynching the Nik/Andrius slot for some reason. Could be seen as a last ditch distance, Poro knowing that he is most likely doomed anyways.
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Post Post #881 (isolation #129) » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:56 am

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Andrius wrote:I'm not as emotionally invested in this game as you two, so I'm not quite as gung-ho about this.
So you wouldn't really care if I hammered you?

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Post Post #882 (isolation #130) » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:59 am

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Add a loss to your wiki under whatever alignment you are, btw. Because you just lost and AGM just won.
I just hope I didn't lose :<
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Post Post #883 (isolation #131) » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:09 pm

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Andrius, I love the pics on your wiki.

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Post Post #885 (isolation #132) » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:25 pm

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Yeah, that VCA really helped.
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Post Post #886 (isolation #133) » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:25 pm

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Also, hooray for going from 7p LyLo to town win.
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Post Post #890 (isolation #134) » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:29 pm

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Open Microsoft Word
Copy all vote counts to one document
Scan the list of dead players, then ctrl+f ---> replace ---> replace all

Code: Select all

[color=green]<player>[/color] or [/color=red]<player[/color]

depending on alignment.
Copy+paste the colored VCA to mafiascum.
Click "submit"

Incredibly fast and easy.
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Post Post #892 (isolation #135) » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:29 pm

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Gammagooey wrote:Hai 5 Parama :P
Ohaider.
We need to play another game again sometime and be masons.
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Post Post #893 (isolation #136) » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:30 pm

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Parama wrote:and be masons.
Note: this is a pre-requisite. I will only join a game with Gamma if I know in advance that we will be mason buddies.

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Post Post #895 (isolation #137) » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:33 pm

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Yep. I wasn't going to do VCA if I didn't think I could do it fast.
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Post Post #897 (isolation #138) » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:11 pm

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P.S. - The worst lynch of the game was Chevre.
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Post Post #899 (isolation #139) » Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:37 pm

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Because I fail.
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Post Post #905 (isolation #140) » Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:15 am

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Andrius wrote:On a semi-related note,

PARAMA. Did you purposefully torch my wiki page? The majority of it is now bolded and strikethrough'd. :evil: I'm not a happy camper ATM, and you were the only one to edit the page since the disaster.
It was like that when I went to it, actually :/
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Post Post #914 (isolation #141) » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:09 am

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Locke Lamora wrote:Parama's agonising over the hammer was fun to watch.
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Post Post #921 (isolation #142) » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:41 am

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Daykill: gandalf5166
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