Mini 934 - Troubles at Smiths&Catharts (Game Over!)

[ScramblesTheDeathDealer]

Vote: Col.Cathart

His company makes guns scum kill people with.
And Ray... it's RVS, I don't remember reasons needing to make sence.

FoS Ray

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Vote: Col.Cathart

His company makes guns scum kill people with.
And Ray... it's RVS, I don't remember reasons needing to make sence.

FoS Ray

And Scrambles... it was worded like a serious vote, I don't remember serious votes not making sense.

But it could be applied to anyone here, so theoretically he chose you by random, hence the R in RVS.

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Oh, Scrambles, I like your avatar!

Ya gotta love Death Note

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MOD REMINDER: Voting game moderator or anyone else outside of the game is counted as not voting.

Considering this was pretty much entirely directed at me, I know that

And Ythan, I don't mind if you post alot, but please, atleast include some content. And it has to be more than two sentences.

I find that it will be much less aggravating if a few players don't waste every other post talking about spam.

*facepalm*

This games going to be much less fun if you take every opportunity to make pointless posts like this.

*refacepalm*
You've achieved annoying me, congrats. And you're holding the game back, being as your destracting every townie here from scumhunting.

Vote: Ythan

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o.o why is everyone so upset at Ythan? He posts about the same volume as the rest of us, he just does it in a line-by-line basis. Maybe its a bit early for this, but it feels to me like people are trying for an easy lynch on a nonscummy target because they've been psyched into being annoyed by him. o0

Becuase everyone is focusing on him. No one else is even being talked to right now.

everyone being focused on something unrelated = distraction = no found scum, unless by accident = loss.

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Even in your own words it sounds like someone else's fault.

I've gotta hand it to you, you can make a great argument. It pisses me off, but congrats
And it IS our fault, spiked by your actions.

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Ythan is a moutermouth.
SFG just voted a lurker
I am too handsome for my own good
and Scrambles just voted Ythan whislt claiming a slight mix of OMGUS and policy lynch

Nothing worth having a vote out there for you?

Oh, that reminds me;

Unvote: SFG
Vote: ScramblesTheDeathDealer

Claim?
OMGUS?
Ythan voted me?
When did I claim?
I never said "hey I'm town."
I said it prevents town from finding scum, resulting in a loss.

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But I think it makes sense to keep in the back of the mind that Scrambles is only 13. (The weird thing about me saying that is that I'm 14

Is it a bad time to mention that I support policy lynches on all players under the age of eighteen?

Lol. Don't make me eat you.

And Pom, don't "keep it in the back of your mind," treat me as anyone else. And Inquisitor, Ythan was the only one who stuck out to me, especially this early in D1.

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He suggested he went to an online (correct?) college, so 20 seems about right.

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^@Ythan

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Damn. Ninja'd.

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/ninjaskillz

ninja'd by Ythan.

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Can someone please explain to me how you knew that he hadn't confirmed yet?

I have 11 out of 12 confirmations. If I don't get the last one in the next 24 hours, we'll start the game anyway.

You're welcome.

I guess I have different standards, because it seems to me that it's more likely for a 13-year-old to go 'Huh? Omgus? Policy Lynch? Claim?' than someone who is 30. I think that this also applies to myself. I hope I explained it okay, but it just might be the way I think.

And that's why it was an FoS instead of a vote.

Again, if you want to vote, please do. Don't use my age to differentiate game actions.

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Again, if you want to vote, please do. Don't use my age to differentiate game actions.

This sounds exactly like what I used to say. (How much do you thik I'll judge you for it if I'm the same age?)

I think you'll judge me alot.
/sarcasm
But I very well could be scum, as any other player in this game. If you were to judge your votes and make decisions based on age, scum easily could be overlooked.

And

Unvote Ythan

, he's been posting content st00fs.

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Again, if you want to vote, please do. Don't use my age to differentiate game actions.

This sounds exactly like what I used to say. (How much do you thik I'll judge you for it if I'm the same age?)

I think you'll judge me alot.
/sarcasm
But I very well could be scum, as any other player in this game. If you were to judge your votes and make decisions based on age, scum easily could be overlooked.

And

Unvote Ythan

, he's been posting content 'n' stuff.

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Woops, double post. Internet connection sucks, sorry.

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It's not your connection fyi.

I'm downloading Guitar Pro at 2kb/s atm, I think connection has to do with it. And if not, what else?

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@Mod - you entirely left me out, is that an error?

Yes it is. Thanks for pointing it out - Cathart

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Be on tomorrow with thoughts and what not.

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@Thor,
I don't really mind Pom's SFG vote considering it was RVS, but Sotty's bothers me a bit. He voted for her because "she made up an excuse for lurking" and "Continued RVS." Considering she was in another game at the time and clearly stated she couldn't handle two, plus the fact she was sick obviously is going to detach her from the game a bit, which seems reason enough for her RVS continuation and lurking.

I am forced to wonder why Ray is breaking meta? If he is town why does it matter.

But we don't know if he IS town. And apparently since RayScum doesn't do anything, breaking his meta could be a rather simple excuse to make in attempt to throw off suspicion.
Oh, and hmmm.... anyone else notice the lack of smiley faces after called out on it?

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Lack of smilies, from Ray?

No, from TCC. I forget who exactly it was (Sotty, I think), but they said they had a bad feeling about TCC because she used alot of smilies in her post. I was joking about how that post had none.

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If you do not find him scummy, but instead simply anti-town, maybe you could explain then why you support an anti-town lynch?

Does the difference between 'anti-town' and 'scummy' matter here? Either way he is not working with the town to find a good scum canidate to lynch, which is effect hurting town, which scummy. Just trying to get some clarification.

TCC, the objective of this game is to lynch scum, not scummy townies

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If I had to pick a lynch right now it'd be Ray. So my vote is on Ray.

There's a problem with this statement - you're vote isn't on Ray, it's on Nobody Special.

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As far as the major wagons go I prefer a Ray vote over a Ythan vote, but Thor's case does give me something to chew on. I want Ray to give some content and explain why he is breaking his meta in this game and why he even felt the need to to mention this in the first place.

It's simple: Ray claims to be breaking his meta; I'd bet anything that's just a ruse and he's scum.

Thoughts?

My thoughts are that this has been said....what, fifteen times before your post, and you seem to be bandwagoning. I'd bet that if Ray flips scum, your his scumbuddy, and if Ray flips town (all of this is assuming he's lynched at some point), your scum.

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@Scrambles - currently you are not voting anyone. Why is this and also, currently whom do you find most suspicious?

@InquisitorJL - you say you are happy with your Cheshire vote sine 'it's as good as anyone'. Since I think at least a few of the other wagons out there now at least have some concept of the logic of why they're voting who they are would you care to point out what you see as the strongest aspects supporting you in keeping your vote on Cheshire?

Ray and Nobody Special, (read my previous post). Ray because of his whole meta thing. I don't see it as anything voteworthy however, I'd like to see what happens first.

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I'd bet that if Ray flips scum, your his scumbuddy, and if Ray flips town (all of this is assuming he's lynched at some point), your scum.

So unless Ray is a survivor, NS is scum in your estimation?

Not necessarily, we've still got a whole game ahead of us. Depending on what happens in the upcoming days and nights could easily change my opinions on things, as it could (or should, at the very least) anyones.

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I'ma wait a few minutes before answering as the posts are pouring in.

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There is only one questions raised against you right now.

I understand this, but that question is being said a variety of times with different accomodations to it.

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As for expounding (absolutely love that word), here's some clarification:

Ray Flips Scum
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NS voted for Ray after what I think is a very interesting case developed against him, bandwagon? I think so. Especially since the case seemed valid (again, IMO), I believe NS [if scum] thought Ray might get lynched. He then voted, in an attempt to bus his partner.

Ray Flips Town
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NS bandwagons on a Townie, which I would dislike.


I shouldn't have said either way he's scum, I'll admit that was a bit much, but either way to me it does look very suspicious.
I didn't vote because I would like to see what NS does.
[Kids, the moral to this post is to never bandwagon.]

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[Kids, the moral to this post is to never bandwagon.]

Really? Feels like you're just stalling. Well not just, also backpedaling.

You're post, it confuses me.
Are you saying that you want me to jump on a wagon?

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3. I'm pretty sure bandwagoning is a basic part of the game - how do you think people need to get on votes?

There is a difference between agreeing and bandwagoning.
Agreeing is:
"Yes, I believe he is scum, therefore I shall vote."
Bandwagoning is:
"Meh, everyone else thinks that, so I'ma go ahead and vote too."

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I must have been learnded wrong then, because in my first town game most used wagoning as a scumtell. Excuse my mafia illiteracy.

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The reason I didn't answer in prev. post is Im on a PSP, which has godawful typing. I'll get to it tomorrow, if you can wait

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Scrambles, how long are you willing to wait for NS before you do decide to vote him? Why is this different from the other votes you have placed so far in the game?

I am not fond of NS's lurking. Especially since he has posted in other games after I called him out on st00f. I like to let people defend themselves before I vote, however.

And to hopefully satisfy Thor,

In any case I would note that even if you do believe this that Ythan's vote on Ray was *far* more indicative of "Meh, everyone else thinks that, so I'ma go ahead and vote too." then Nobody Special's and you didn't seem to get excited about Ythan's actions. What's up with that?

I didn't get excited over Ythans actions because he was one of the first voters. Being one of the first = less scummy, IMO.

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Seriously now, why isn't Ythan scummy if Nobody Special is? Ythan even couldn't come out and say "I think Ray is scummy"
@ All Lurkers - stop it.

Ythan hasn't lurked, and

I don't know Rayscum but this is definitely different from Raytown I've known. He says he's breaking meta but that doesn't completely do away with it.

actually helped the wagon, instead of saying "That's disturbing."

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I find

Scrambles'

case on Zorblag to be highly selective.

LOLWUT

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I got your avatars mixed up. x:

Lol me and Zorblag's?

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No you and Ches.

Ahhh. I see.

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/is wondering why

RAWWWRRRR!

didn't happen when I said he was posting in another thread.

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Oh, and NS, it's March, silly lil' goose.

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Ythan, my ISO 33.

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Here.

Happy Saint Patrick's Day, asshole.

Also thanks Scrambles, looking that up now.

Literally lol'd. And forgot to

vote NS.

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Damnit, Thor! You figured out the plan.

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Will be

V/LA til Monday.

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@Mod, I have to request a replace. I've been insanely busy irl lately, and have extremely limited access to a computer. Sorry guys