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It ain't never a good thing to vote for yourself if you're town...Haylen wrote:Yay! Bandwagon!
Vote Haylen
Claim: Pinapple cake with amazing magical powers! I get to feed you all yummy pinapple cake until you puke. Hurrah!!!FoS: Haylen.
But the main reason for my FoS is because you spelled pineapple wrong. How could you spell your own role name wrong (unless it really is pinapple...)?
And because Plum made a pineapple cake last week, and it was kinda (no offense Plum!) weird.-
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Oh. Sorry.
UnFoS: Haylen.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
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I didn't glean any information from this. Had she voted herself once we were out of RVS (like now) then I would have thought about it, but this wasn't done in seriousness.Zachrulez wrote:
Possibly? There was no reason for her to vote herself at all.Pomegranate wrote:
Possibly. But there was no reason for her to continue voting for herself, and she didn't. I FoS'ed her in jest. As far as I understood, she voted herself in jest, too.Zachrulez wrote:Would you have found it suspicious had she not unvoted?
Unvote: Vote: Promegranate
What do you think was the motivation of her self vote? Does that action make her more likely to be town or scum in your eyes? Did anything in your exchange help you toward determining the intent of that action?
Why are you making such a big deal over a stupid RVS self vote? Seeing if you can get a bandwagon on me?
Well, I find you suspicious for making a case out of nothing. Therefre I willUnvote, Vote: Zachrulez.-
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i will be V/LA until Monday, as stated previously.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
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Sorry for the V/LA. It's the Jewish New Year.
I just read the past five pages; here is a jumble of random thoughts, opinions, etc.:
I FoS'ed Haylen; I didn't vote for her. It wasn't serious, which I thought was evident, given hat O stated that my main reason for FoSing her was because I thought she spelled pineapple incorrectly.Peabody wrote:She was very quick to vote for Haylen after her self-vote. I don't think Pomegranate was joking either.
A few pages back Looker acted a bit scummy, but it seemed more newbish to me.
i don't see that much in the former Chibo wagon, nor Haylen as of right now.
I'd like to hear some more from Zachrulez, canadianbovine, J-fox, and Konowa. I'm aware that Konowa is V/LA.
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I've never played with Rosso when he was scum before, but if he's town I think he can be very helpful. One time he vigged me N1 correctly(, I was the mafia godfather). He said that he based it of of D1 reads, and considering that I had never played with him before, I think he can play a good pro-town game. I say that we don't lynch him today, and wait until tomorrow to see how scummy he's acting then.-
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Oh, missed page 12. Will read through it now.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
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I won't talk about ongoing games. But it seems as though it will end soon.ChiboSempai wrote:
Seems interesting. Did he play the same way that game that he is now? Normally I don't like to bring other games into stuff, but info is info.Pomegranate wrote:I've never played with Rosso when he was scum before, but if he's town I think he can be very helpful. One time he vigged me N1 correctly(, I was the mafia godfather). He said that he based it of of D1 reads, and considering that I had never played with him before, I think he can play a good pro-town game. I say that we don't lynch him today, and wait until tomorrow to see how scummy he's acting then.-
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AlmasterGM- I see him as slightly town, but not very. I think he's expressing his views well.RayFrost wrote:what are your reads/feelings about the number of interactions so far in the game?
canadianbovine- Would like to hear more from him.
ChiboSempai- Will read up on.
Haylen- I see her as townish at this point; I guess it's gut. Would like to see the long post she promised a few hours ago...
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The reason why lurking is generally considered scummy is because through lurking one can avoid saying scummy things. Everyone is now saying that lurking=/=scum, which is sometimes true, but I usually see that a pressure vote or two doesn't hurt, and in some cases, lynch is the best option.J-Fox wrote:
That's not suspicion worthy, there are prods and replacements for that purpose. Voting should be reserved for scummy behaviour, not to coerce someone back to postingChiboSempai wrote:I meant suspecting inactives as in like, it would be good to keep an eye on them or try to get them to talk, not thinking they are scum yet. However keeping active and talking a lot is likely to make someone slip or something. Not talking in the first place doesn't let anyone have any reads on you, good or bad. Also by suspecting a inactive and being vocal about it, you're forcing them to sort of come back and defend themselves.
Konowa- Hasn't posted much, but makes enough sense in the posts he does make. Not sure how I feel about him.
Looker-Is acting a bit scummy, but mostly in a newbish way. Having some trouble getting a good read on him though.
Peabody- Neutral read.
RayFrost- Giving me somewhat townie vibes.
Rosso Carne- Don't think him being lynched at this point would be good, but still keeping an eye out.
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I'd be fine with this if not for this, a few minutes later:Zachrulez wrote:
Well we're 13 pages in now, how much more time are you going to need to get your good reads?Pomegranate wrote:
Sorry, willZachrulez wrote:I'm interested in seeing more from Pome. I'd like her to clarify whether she's still happy with her vote on me or not[....]Unvoteyou for now. I need to get some good reads before voting.
That seems hypocritical to me. Could you explain why it's not (unless you think it is too )?Everyone else is kinda off my radar for one reason or another, which could be due to needing to post more, or needing to post something that grabs my attention.-
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And could everyone please try to spell my name correctly?Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
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I usually do a bit of lurking D1 to get into the feel of the game, but I'll try to get some content in after school tomorrow.Zachrulez wrote:In regards to your name, I think of granite when I sound out your name, sorry about that :s. I'll try to keep the proper spelling of your name in mind while I determine whether or not you are a scumbag.
Also, active lurking is scummy. There is a distinction between actively lurking, (Reading the thread without posting in such a way that appears strategic.) and lurking in general.
RayFrost: I don't mind Pom or Pome (it even says so on mi wiki page), but I mind when Pomegranate is misspelled. I'd rather you say Pom/Pome than spell Pomegranate incorrectly.-
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I agree entirely with what you say about active lurking, and somewhat with what you say about passive lurking.J-Fox wrote:
I suppose you'd be right about the pressure votes to perhaps force them out the woodwork if they are actually reading the game and choosing not to post (which is ofc scummy), but imo, punishing people who make scummy posts with votes is probably a better use of them, otherwise you may well be wasting your vote on someone who just ain't gonna see it and respond, it could well have been pressuring someone who is actually scummy and you know is acting scummy instead.Pomegranate wrote:The reason why lurking is generally considered scummy is because through lurking one can avoid saying scummy things. Everyone is now saying that lurking=/=scum, which is sometimes true, but I usually see that a pressure vote or two doesn't hurt, and in some cases, lynch is the best option.
^This explains perfectly well what I mean, and the main problem is, especially so on Day 1, it's very hard to tell the difference between active and passive lurking, unless they explicitly say they're actively lurking, and you'd be an absolute fool to do that.Zachrulez wrote:Also, active lurking is scummy. There is a distinction between actively lurking, (Reading the thread without posting in such a way that appears strategic.) and lurking in general.
On a separate lurking note, sometimes (if everypne's playing really well) the lurkersarethe most detrimental people apparent to the town.-
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I'd like to hear. From Peabody first, but he'll probably just say it was a mistake. Then again, though I think everyone must be careful, I could see it happening as a result of carelessness. Everone has to do their best to prevent this sort of thing.
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The first sentence should have been "I'd like to hear from Peabody first, but he'll probably..."Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
"I didn't want to use you Pom... I never killed you. I didn't endgame you it was my evil buddies!
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Exactly.RayFrost wrote:
WIFOM in front...Peabody wrote:My post was surely an accident. It wouldn't make sense for me as mafia to blatantly misrepresent somebody. I'm sorry, I just got Alamaster and Looker confused.
I truly am trying to scumhunt. I apologize to the town, for if you lynch me, I just hurt the town. Sorry!!
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Whoa. Didn't expect this much AtE.Peabody wrote:Well then, there's not much I can do to defend myself. If someone wants to be constructive and ask me questions, I would rather that happen. What I'm seeing right now isyou are obviously scum, so I'm closing my ears to everything you say. Several people did mention my misrepresentation could be a mistake. Now all of a sudden, I can't get a benefit of the doubt?-
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I agree with Zach. What do you mean you were "tired of D1"? I was also on Peabody's wagon, but I would have liked to hear a bit more from him before he was hammered.AlmasterGM wrote:I'm tired of Day 1. It's tl;dr
Unvote. Vote: Peabody.
RAWR! GO HAMMAR GO!
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Will be V/LA rest of today (probably) and tomorrow (for sure).Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
"I didn't want to use you Pom... I never killed you. I didn't endgame you it was my evil buddies!
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Will catch up and post tomorrow afternoon.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
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Hi, I'm back.
Scumlist:
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I'm still very suspicious of Chibo's vig claim, but I don't like how Almaster has been acting of the late. His hammer on D1 was premature and very scummy; This post really bothered me. I don't think the justification for his vote made sense or gave any good reason for his hammer.
Right now I willUnvote; Vote: AlmasterGM
I wasn't thinking correctly; I was thinking in terms of a closed setup. I think that should be obvious, considering that weKonowa wrote:I am surprised no one has called Pomegranate out on her post here. Pom, why do you automatically assume that there is only two killing factions? Also, why do you say it is probably either Mafia+SK or Mafia+Vig? We know that thereisa SK in this game. This makes me twitch a little.
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RayFrost, there is a gap between Chibo and you in scumminess, just no one to fill it with. You're where you are because I felt you were slightly to enthusiastic about lynching Chibo.
You, Haylen, canadianbovine, and Konowa are all pretty close- somewhere around neutral, but in the order I put you.
J-Fox and Zachrulez seem the most townie to me because they are posting and contributing ideas, opinion, etc.
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Calm down, I'm not that suspicious of you, and I'm pretty suspicious of Chibo. I'm just not sure who to vote for, Almaster or Chibo.RayFrost wrote:re Pome:
eeeeh... =/
I'm enthusiastic when I think there has been obv scum/sk caught. Would you prefer I had no enthusiasm? That usually leads to no posting for me... >.>-
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QFTJ-Fox wrote:Oh yes ofc Almaster, the 4 of us that are on your wagon also just happen to be the SK and all 3 Mafia all neatly arranged just for you to pick up on at will
Really, I highly doubt an organised scum would ever be dumb enough to place all 3 of their members on a wagon of 4, unless they were playing a massively courageous gambit. Reasoning at the very least would be nice.
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Chibo, I'm somewhat suspicious of you, and considering voting you (,if it wouldn't be the hammer, which I have to check up. Konowa unvoted, right?).
Why I don't think you're the vig:
Your suggestions regarding N2 are a little to convenient. Here's why-
-If you're the SK, then there would be no reason for you not to kill whoever the town wants you to kill, as you're against both the scum and the town, and would need to eliminate both.
-If you're the scum, one of your buddies can send in the kill instead of you.
In both of those cases, using the town's PRs would be an added bonus for you.
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Thanks.Chibo wrote:voting me would hammer, konowa unvoted but was voting almaster, not me
I can't think of a way to prove you're not the mafia which can be done. Oftentimes the scum will back a lynch on one of his buddies, because the lynchChibo wrote:i wont kill N2. have CB track me if u want to confirm, but it proves that I'm not the SK. as for the mafia, find a way to prove that im not and il do it. afterall, im behind the almaster lynch, who i think is scum - and i wouldnt lunch a fellow mafia member.
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Personally, I think it would be more useful to us for one more day, (not that I'mstronglyagainst a lynch on him,) because, as previously mentioned, we can learn quite a bit from the number (and possibly from the choices) of the nightkills. I agree that if there is an unclaimed vig out there (,obviously not referring to Chibo), rather than not kill, he should kill Chibo. It's more common sense.
I would like to hear from Haylen; making a list of why you acting scummy doesn't mean that you are scum doesn't help us any. Will we get any contributions or opinions from you any time soon? A week is a long time to wait.-
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That was really dumb of Almaster, to self-hammer.
Okay, six people left:
One of the following scenarios-
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That's not good for the town. I wonder how we haven't already lost, considering that the mafia already make up 50% of the town. But that's for the mod to worry about, not me. We can't mislynch today, or else we lose. This isn't looking good.
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It's possible for the town to win, just very unlikely. We'd have to lynch scum today, the SK and The Mafia would have to cross-kill each other tonight, and the last two town members would have to lynch scum tomorrow.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
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You could have been roleblocked, or, as you said, he could be scum.canadianbovine wrote:
SKs are usually forced to kill.Pomegranate wrote:
Why do you say that?canadianbovine wrote:Chibo is the vigilante.
i told him not to kill anyone and when i tracked him it said tracking unsuccessful.
which either means i was role blocked [is that possible?]
or that chibo is legitamately not the serial killer.
The scenario can't be:
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...because I am a VT. That means that either Chibo is not the vig, or CB isn't a normal tracker, but the mafia tracker.
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Chibo, I'm looking at it this way:
canadianbovine- Tracker/Mafia Tracker
ChiboSempai- Vig (didn't kill last night)/SK (CB was Jailkept, though I find this unlikely)/ Mafia (a scumbuddy sent in the kill)
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J-Fox- SK/Scum
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RayFrost- SK/Scum
I'd feel more comfortable lynching one of Haylen, J-Fox, or RayFrost today. To me, lynching CB is better than lynching you(, because I don't know which of you is lying; I have to use my judgement and my gut). But, lynching CB means we could be lynching a PR, and as you're pushing for the lynch very strongly, you could just be scum trying for a non-scum lynch.
I'd like to hear more from Haylen, J-Fox, and RayFrost before voting. I don't see the need to have such a short day- there's room for a little discussion.-
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I will be V/LA until Sunday night or Monday.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
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Hi all, I'm back. I think I'll post my thoughts on a numbered list; hopefully they won't get too jumbled that way.
1. RayFrost, thank you for clarifying my gender. It was greatly appreciated.
2. I also wondered what a pro-town cult would do. What if Scum/SK was culted?
3. I don't think people realize that wemustlynch scum today.
4. I'm under the impression that between Haylen, RayFrost, and J-Fox there are two scum members, the one that isn't being the SK. I think that the last scum member lies between Chibo and CB.
5. Assuming that #4 is correct, (which obviously can't be done, but that's the best idea of roles I have at this point )then I feel that we should look for our lynch between Haylen, RayFrost, and J-Fox. D3 we can see about our PRs; I see that as more of a safe possibility.
6. If we were lynching randomly between Haylen, RayFrost, and J-Fox,( which we arenot,) assuming again that #4 is correct, then I think there would be a 67% chance that we'd lynch correctly. That's why I'm planning to look at each of them in iso when I have the chance.-
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Ray, I'm saying what I've got. I understand you don't have access to my role pm.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
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I'm considering voting Haylen, or maybe RayFrost.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
"I didn't want to use you Pom... I never killed you. I didn't endgame you it was my evil buddies!
Sowwy >_<" -scumFate.
"Pom was on my "I will not kill, and I shall seek vengeance upon the death of them" list." -CSL-
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Thas must be the second or third time...
The way I see it:
Pom= VT
-->Therefore, only one of Chibo/CB can be town. (Last post I was leaning Chibo town, but I've been contemplating, and I see him as more likely scum. See my previous posts D3 for additional reasoning.)
-->With that assumption, the scum and the SK lie between Haylen, RayFrost, J-Fox, and either Chibo/CB(, the one that isn't town).
-->I don't see how CB could be the SK, (with his tracking ability, )and and I don't see how Chibo could be the SK, and him being scum makes much more sense(, again, see my previous posts D3).
-->That leaves 2/3 scum members between Haylen, RayFrost, and J-Fox, as well as the SK.-
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I'm planning on voting soon. The discussion is excessive. We've established what is known already. Idon't feel comfortable following Chibo atm.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
"I didn't want to use you Pom... I never killed you. I didn't endgame you it was my evil buddies!
Sowwy >_<" -scumFate.
"Pom was on my "I will not kill, and I shall seek vengeance upon the death of them" list." -CSL-
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How bout RayFrost?Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
"I didn't want to use you Pom... I never killed you. I didn't endgame you it was my evil buddies!
Sowwy >_<" -scumFate.
"Pom was on my "I will not kill, and I shall seek vengeance upon the death of them" list." -CSL-
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Yeah, I guess.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
"I didn't want to use you Pom... I never killed you. I didn't endgame you it was my evil buddies!
Sowwy >_<" -scumFate.
"Pom was on my "I will not kill, and I shall seek vengeance upon the death of them" list." -CSL-
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I recalled hearing Haylen talking about her busy schedule, etc. in a finished game I played with her. But mainly because I've been thinking about Ray, and I'm liking him less and less.
Vote: RayFrost.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
"I didn't want to use you Pom... I never killed you. I didn't endgame you it was my evil buddies!
Sowwy >_<" -scumFate.
"Pom was on my "I will not kill, and I shall seek vengeance upon the death of them" list." -CSL-
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