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That sucks.Rosso Carne wrote:We had some back in the olden days, but theyre gone mostly.
Of course fritZler is KIND OF around, but not really.
CES is gone
ibby and babygurl are both gone too ={
I'd be willing to join the society of hammah!ing 'pending on the rules and regulations.don't you feel silly now?-
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What is "rush"Rosso Carne wrote:
We will be holding rush in the upcoming weeks.RayFrost wrote:
That sucks.Rosso Carne wrote:We had some back in the olden days, but theyre gone mostly.
Of course fritZler is KIND OF around, but not really.
CES is gone
ibby and babygurl are both gone too ={
I'd be willing to join the society of hammah!ing 'pending on the rules and regulations.don't you feel silly now?-
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Rosso Carne wrote:
youll find out when you hit big kid schoolRayFrost wrote:
What is "rush"Rosso Carne wrote:
We will be holding rush in the upcoming weeks.RayFrost wrote:
That sucks.Rosso Carne wrote:We had some back in the olden days, but theyre gone mostly.
Of course fritZler is KIND OF around, but not really.
CES is gone
ibby and babygurl are both gone too ={
I'd be willing to join the society of hammah!ing 'pending on the rules and regulations.So... college isn't big kid school?
Eh, you mean never then.don't you feel silly now?-
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Do you intend to reply to his defense, or are you goign to pretend that it isn't there?
ChiboSempai wrote:In my defense - well, there really isn't one. Think about it. The same could be said about anyone. If I were to target someone else, how would they be able to defend themselves.don't you feel silly now?-
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"growing" on you? Oh dear, I wouldn't want to be a fungus...Looker wrote:You're growing on me. Don't listen to X, I know absolutely nothing about Mafia. What I was trying to point out, though, is that Rosso instructs us to put votes on almaster when he, himself is not voting at all. It could be that he's trying to lay low but I don't know. Like I said, my thoughts formulate, they're never really...there yet...
So your thoughts... move but never reach the destination?
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Well, if I wanted to turn it against you, I could by saying the following:Looker wrote:Pretty much, now let's see how you can turn this against me. I'm curious.
You just admitted that you never actually complete your thoughts and thus can't ever get complete, or accurate, reads on people. In addition, you admitted that any of your opinions change from post to post, which thus gives you an out for any sudden shifts in view point, which is something only scum would need to do (wiggling out of a tight spot of thinking your partner, who is going to get lynched, is town to bussing them, for example). Not to mention that you also give yourself an out from any real pressure based upon your pinions because you can say "well that was my opinion,then, but it's changed now."
Would you like me to actually turn everything you say against you, or are you fine with me just pointing out the things I find scummy?don't you feel silly now?-
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Eh, you not being good at the game says nothing about your level of intelligence. It does say something about your level of adaptivity, but that's another issue...Looker wrote:Strangely enough, I'dloveit if you enlightened me as to all of my faults and faulty logic. It helps, playing this game. It helps to point out just how stupid I really am and what I can do to change that.
But, either way, you're wrong. You're horribly, atrociously wrong. Anyway, who do you think will get lynched today? Or should I say mislynched today?
Also, are you bringing stuff from other on-going games into our involvement in this game? That's a no-no, looker. *wags finger*
Also, I honestly don't know who will be lynched today. There has yet to be enough valuable conversation to get an accurate read on any of the players, and it's still barely getting out of RVS.
And saying "mislynched" implies that you know we won't be finding scum this day and lynching them. What leads you to that conclusion?don't you feel silly now?-
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yeah, adaptivity... the ability to adapt to a new environment.Looker wrote:Adaptivity...?
On-going games? That's a negative.
Ray we never lynch scum on D1. We lynch assholes, outcasts, and idiots on D1, you know that.
okay, then.
wrong, wrong, and wrong.
It is possible to lynch scum D1, and it has happened in numerous games elsewhere in the site. We don't lynch assholes, cuz assholes can still help find scum. We don't lynch outcasts cuz outcasts can still find scum. We don't lynch idiots unless they make idiotic scum slip ups, in which case we have lynched scum anyway.
do try to display that you havesomemafia experience, looker... you are acting like more of a newbie than I am, and I've barely joined MS.don't you feel silly now?-
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Okay, so basically, you admit to being an easily swayed individual that doesn't think for themself and follows orders without consideration of alignment, motives, or really anything. So, basically, you don't really make use of your admittedly only partially formed thoughts in a way that would help town...?Looker wrote:I don't have experience, I merely do what they tell me to do. Post this and post that, they never notice the music of things, the rhythm, the harmony.don't you feel silly now?-
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1. not sharing your thoughts is scummy.Looker wrote:::shrug:: I try, but then people come behind me and accuse me of being scum for not posting PbPAs and sharing my thoughts, which they want to be just like theirs. Ring any bells, RayFrost?
2. you are referencing an on-going game, which is against the rules, even if it is a vague reference.
3. if you are going to blame me for that stuff, do it in the game where it is happening. Each game is separate and should not affect reads elsewhere.don't you feel silly now?-
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"this time around" implies that you thought I was scum in some game we are in...?Looker wrote:I think you're town this time around, btw.
Also, what makes you think I'm town so early in the game?
Also, the "calling somebody scummy for disagreeing" was something that happenedin an on-going game, so you were referencing the events in a game that was on-going... but I digress.don't you feel silly now?-
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Eh, stuff like that is just a nuisance, not shocking.Looker wrote:I don't, I just feel like telling you that to let your guard down. What's the probability of one of the top four being scum?
Also, probability this early in the game...
1/n
where n is the number of people alive in the game. nothing to change a read from neutral for any of them so far.don't you feel silly now?-
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Nah, not all numbers to me. I'm just saying that I don't know, and I figured math would make it seem all mystical and stuff. seriously, though... I don't really use math, and that math was wrong anyway. It'd be v/n with n being the number of players alive and v being the number of scum if I was going down that route.Looker wrote:So you do this with math? It's all numbers to you? That's strange... Well, I guess that's the only way youcando it, though...but still.... Never mind. It's getting late, I have to get to bed. I start Kindergarten tomorrow.
バニラの町
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Anyway, -proper- Japanese good night is
oyasuminasai
except in kana.don't you feel silly now?-
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1. I believe there is also an almaster wagonPeabody wrote:
Sooo why didn't you just join a bandwagon that's already in place? Chibo looks like a great bandwagon right now.RayFrost wrote:hmmm...
Well, I'm not seeing discussion go anywhere...
gah, this is why I prefer replacing in >.<
vote: almasterGM
cuz a bandwagon starts discussion!
2. both are just random wagons to get discussion going as far as I can tell
3. as zach said... why are you trying to direct my vote?don't you feel silly now?-
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Okay... why not expand upon what you don't like about his posting?Peabody wrote:
I wasn't implying anything, I just think that Chibo needs to have a bandwagon on him. Talk about nitpicking! I saw something in his posting style that I didn't particularly like, but I cannot make a case unless he posts more. Another way I can see the possible scumtell is getting a bandwagon on him. I don't intend to lynch.RayFrost wrote:
Then why were you implying that IPeabody wrote:You can vote how you want, RayFrost.shouldbe voting for Chibo?
Do explain why you said what you said and answer my question...
And if it is playstyle, then that's a poor case in of itself, unless you have meta to go off of.don't you feel silly now?-
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So, what do you intend to do to alleviate this problem, hmmm?ChiboSempai wrote:-snip-
The big problem I'm seeing here is that multiple people are being targeted with no real reason.
Peabody, you really should post your evidence on Chibo, considering that there is not much to go off of so far. It might help with discussion.don't you feel silly now?-
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Hi Haylen!!!!Haylen wrote:
Can you please tell us why? (Why you think it's one of us four, anyway.Looker wrote: I say we focus on determining whether scum lies amongst Konowa, Chibo, Haylen, and Almaster.
Also, isn't that some sort of tunneling? Which we want to avoid doing? Yeah, sure, putting pressure on the four people you mentioned is fine, but focusing on them is just silly.
vote looker
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I believe you mean page 6 >.>
Also, I am kinda wary of a looker lynch at this stage of the game because of an... experience with looker-town.
So far, looker's played close to looker-town meta (meta is gained from an on-going, so I can't link, sorry).
A looker-town is pretty incompetent and has no real leads and is pretty much a baby in ability.
I don't have any experience with looker-scum, so this might be the same either way.
I'd like to hold off on voting for a bit until I get a better read on looker.
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Ever thought about being high actually causing mental damage?Looker wrote:HA HA HA!!! You're priceless. So, is Chibo scum? Is Rosso scum? IS LOOKER SCUM?!?! I am SOOOOO high right now it doesn't even make any sense...
Anyway... I don't know who the scum are. It'll take some time for that to happen... in the meantime:
oi, non-posters, such as canadianbovine and rosso!!! post dammit!!!![/b]don't you feel silly now?-
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So you only have something to say about the players, nothing about the interactions so far?AlmasterGM wrote:
The former, actually.RayFrost wrote:Have anything to say about the other players and interactions so far in the thread?
I like the fact you gave reasoning for the top four, but what is your reasoning for puttine me, peabody, J-Fox, and chibo in our respective spots?AlmasterGM wrote:SCUM
canadianbovine- hasn't done ANYTHING except confirm and random vote. Literally, he has two posts.
Haylen- switcher her vote twice (outside of RVS) to jump on random bandwagons. Hardly gives any analysis in her posts. What few posts she does have are beefed up with pointless questions.
Looker- plays the n00b card multiple times, but has been registered since February. Huh?
Rosso Carne- hasn't said anything relevant to the game AT ALL.
Zachrulez- Lurky
Pomegranate- V/LA
Konowa- V/LA
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Looker wrote:
Registered because I was bored, didn't like it, posted random BS and then stopped.AlmasterGM wrote:Looker- plays the n00b card multiple times, but has been registered since February. Huh?Once I moved to Japan, I started up again because I was bored, am currently posting random BS, and should probably stop...
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Eh, you can give reasons, and they can do something scummy that alters your read of them. Stating your reasons gives other people a greater insight into your viewpointsAlmasterGM wrote:RayFrost wrote:So you only have something to say about the players, nothing about the interactions so far?
I read the thread and it just confused me, so, no.
There isn't much reasoning behind it, it's more of just a feel. If I had to say something, it'd be that you've actually contributed content to the thread. I dislike giving "evidence" for someone being town because it infers the person is safe.RayFrost wrote:I like the fact you gave reasoning for the top four, but what is your reasoning for puttine me, peabody, J-Fox, and chibo in our respective spots?as well asgiving people a chance to disagree/agree/expand with/upon your reasoning.don't you feel silly now?-
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We actually haven't.Looker wrote:
We've already gone over this. I was here first.RayFrost wrote:Looker wrote:
Registered because I was bored, didn't like it, posted random BS and then stopped.AlmasterGM wrote:Looker- plays the n00b card multiple times, but has been registered since February. Huh?Once I moved to Japan, I started up again because I was bored, am currently posting random BS, and should probably stop...
Are you stalking me?
I've been here for about three years (in Japan).
Anyway, this s non-game related, so yeah... don't respond to this.
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I find the fact rosso and canadianbovine have only replied after their absence was pointed out to be suspicious. If they were going to be away, they should have said so. Not providing this information is, at minimum, very annoying and makes discussion more difficult.
unvote, vote: rosso
He didn't provide much of a reason for being gone, and that makes it seem like he was active lurking, which is the scummiest thing so far that can't be attributed to playstyle.don't you feel silly now?-
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So the only reason you decided to vote was the fact somebody else voted?Peabody wrote:
RayFrost voted Rosso. I believe the bandwagon is good. I want more out of him. Also my opinion did not change from post 204 to 206.CanadianBovine wrote:what happened in that four minute time slot that made you decide to vote for Rosso?
I wrote:I'm so tempted to just vote rosso for the lack of posts relating to the game. No offense, they are hilarious though.
If you found him scummy, you obviously should have done so regardless of who other people voted for.
@ Pom: there are about 4 or 5 votes on rosso.don't you feel silly now?-
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Well, we can start by him calling for suspicion on both you and almaster (votes and stuff) with no real reasoning and not even voting for both of you, which is a sign taht he wishes to direct the town to his own preferences with basically a "because I said so" mindset, though he may have reasons (he isn't saying them, so yeah).don't you feel silly now?-
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tsk, tsk, tsk.ChiboSempai wrote:wtf is this hammah bullshit, hes just annoying me at this point
An emotional reply to his playstyle and saying it is bs is rude and insulting. Not to mention that it detracts from actual town conversation and scumhunting and possibly leads to a large argument over nothing worthwhile. If you have such a problem with his playstyle, you have some options:
ask him to change it
replace out
continue playing and suck it up
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Via your playstyle, how do you promote discussion without bandwagons and the like?Rosso Carne wrote:
its a lurker wagonRayFrost wrote:Rosso:
care to explain how the wagon on you is scummy?
except im not lurking.
one person says im lurking and then some bs about how i havent voted.
its convenient for the people who have gotten on towards the end, but no one has any actual reasons for being on me. Pressure votes are pretty feeble, I have my playstyle and I stick to it, like i said, because i want to win.don't you feel silly now?-
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He wanted you to answer these questions as well as looker, though he said that in a different post.ChiboSempai wrote:Trying to spark some different activity since the only way people have been trying to get tells at the moment are from bandwagon votes. I also want to justify my current vote, or find a reason to change it if needed.
Questions for Looker:
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1. Who are you currently suspecting, or considering voting for D1?
2. Who have you been suspicious of the whole game so far, and explain any of the changes if this list differs from the answer for Q1.
3. How many games of mafia have you played before? Were they on mafiascum or somewhere else?
4. Why should I or we not vote for you?
5. If you were in a mafia game on Day 1 and there was someone you absolutely knew was independent that had a small chance of being a Jester or a Lyncher and someone who many people had a scumtell on from some suspicious replies - which one would you vote for?
6. What is the best way to play mafia as a townie? Do you follow this mindset?don't you feel silly now?-
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We have three scum.Rosso Carne wrote:
your skirting around a detrimental observation is noted.Looker wrote:Wait, missed the second post. What relation?
How is it that you've missed every tie to every other player within this thread? You can't simply acknowledge one to your convenience, that's not fair or right at all. If anything, it'd look more like I had a relationship with you because my vote was on you originally...wouldn't it? Heck, I don't know, I'm just a n000000000b.
way to protect your scum buddy.
I understand that everyone is connected, were in a game. But your play sucks, and yet chibo comes to your side right away.
theres your scum pair people.
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re J-fox:
If I remember correctly what post you are referencing, you are asking about the question I put to Rosso saying there are three scum, and asking who the third is from his point of view...
In this case, Rosso had stated the two he found to be scum, but not the third or the SK players. Because of this, I was curious if he had any scum reads from other players. It helps to know the opinion of the other players and their reasoning in one's own scum hunting.
FoS: Almastercuz fencesitting on its own isn't scummy enough to vote for.
Pome, Konowa, and everybody else catching up:
what are your reads/feelings about the number of interactions so far in the game?don't you feel silly now?-
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Playstyle for now.Looker wrote:unvote
Rosso's Post 280 - I call your bluff. You have nothing scummy on me, and way to call "scum" everyime someone disagrees with you. On top of that, I don't see how my play sucks and, on top of THAT, I don't see how Chibo has extended any extra courtesies to me than any other player. I think you're reaching, bud.
Rosso's Post 286 -"Lynching someone becasue they dont play the game how you think it should be played is just detrimental to the game."You're exactly right.
Konowa's Post 300 - How am I apathetic?
@ Peabody & Rayfrost: How you feelin' about Rosso Carne? Scumminess or playing style?
Like Pomegranate said, it's probably better to let him live for now. If he's town, he'll be a huge asset. If he's not, we can deal with him a little bit later. Why gamble at high stakes when one can gamble with less to lose?don't you feel silly now?-
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I know I'm not scum.Looker wrote:Okay, Mr. RayFrost, I have another question for you. Do you believe that either of you and Peabody are scum? If so, who? If not, ok.
I have a neutral, leaning town read on peabody so far, so I don't think either of us are scum.
My view on myself won't change, but my view on peabody will depending upon his future actions.
Do you believe that either of you and rosso are scum/third party? If so, who and why? If not, okay.don't you feel silly now?-
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