Mini 816: Revenge of the Monkey(GAME OVER!)
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charter wrote:What do you mean "doesn't excuse charter"? What is wrong with piling on the largest bandwagon?
Um....wow.
If you do not have a reason for it, its usually considered a tell.
Devestation wrote:Albany Park?
unvotebtw.
@Devestation- I find your unvote and then post of a reason much later an attempt to not look scummy.Devestation wrote:You cant seriously expect to pull off a bandwagon lynch in the RVS...
Unvote so we don't have any accidents
unvote; vote: Devestation"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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Rolling pressure based bandwagons are the tools of scum to determine what town thinks of each other and to out roles.
A well reasoned bandwagon that has questionable deeds committed by the wagonee is the tool of the town.
I do not find SC scummy for simply having that opinion nor do I find charter scummy for having the opposite opinions. I think its a null tell from a meta standpoint. I found Devestation's case to be the best one so far and will retain my vote there."Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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SC is actively scum hunting. While using a theory argument is a weak argument I do not see it as scummy.
Devestation has not actively scum hunted and only posts are defensive imo. I think its a far better suspect to pursue.
Dramonic, can you tell me 2 people you think are town and why?"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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( at airport on my phone, apologies for any bad typefonts)StrangerCoug wrote:
If we massclaim cop/not cop on Day 1, we get a counterclaim, and the faker gets lynched, the chances are very high that the real cop will get either killed on Night 1 or constantly roleblocked to prevent the receipt of innocent/guilty results on other players. You're clearly not thinking ahead.charter wrote:I think it's dumb to lynch an uncountered cop day one. Either everyone claims cop or not cop and we can lynch him if someone counters, or no one says anything on it and we lynch someone else and deal with Devestation on a later day if he's still around.
Unvote: Devestation
Vote: charter
this is an anti deadline stance considering we have 48 hours.
I may be a cop, I may not be.
Charter looks incredibly scummy if devestation is scum. Could still be scum otherwise.
We should still vote devestation imo. Play is scummy."Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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With the deadline extension we may be able to get a different lynch. I am not convinced that we should however.
@Charlatan I would love to know what your win condition is. Please post it now as I would consider mine different from Devs claimed one.
@Dramonic- Why would you want to know if I really am a cop and want me to clarify that statement unless you were scum?"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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Are you implying that you know charter is town? Thats how I read this. Your not even considering the possibility that charter is scum in these statements. Would you really rather lynch the uncced cop?Scott Brosius wrote:
Perhaps you should ask better questions to get the answers you want instead of blaming me. For the third time, I get suspicious when a wagon that had been strong all day crumbles close to deadline. The players who have not expressed a strong opinion about charter that latched on at the end are the most suspicious. I realize that ryan was not around and his vote was based on his supposed first read-through, but both his and sajin's votes are something to look at tomorrow.Konowa wrote:Ugh, drawing blood out of a stone.
Whatabouttheir votes bother you? Just saying that X and Y's votes bother me does not cut it. Please elaborate."Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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Devestation wrote:Town- Charlatan- I found him innocent with my super special cop powers.
Town- Get back to you on this, I make it no secret that it takes me some time to make a read on anyone, leaving me sitting here for hours at a time.
Scum- Konowa- Apparently, everything I say is scummy. EVERYTHING! Its why I don't like saying anything, because I get sick and tired of having to deal with backlash that simply snowballs into something that is totally off-track of the game. I don't even have to pull the cop CC into it or his repeated demands for me to "Get Lynched", although those are OMGUS.
Scum- See second townie.
This screams scum. Your not helping.
vote Devestation
Its alright you have enough ties with dramonic to be of help tomorrow. Nice try leaving no more than you had to though."Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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Thats not why I think your scum with devestation. That was someone elses case.dramonic wrote:I very much doubt Konowa's investigation could have affected Dev's behaviour, but if you think so whatever :3
Also, I can't believe you're all calling me scummy for thinking "I may be cop, I may be not" is a weird phrase and rubs me the wrong way.
And Ryan, what was that last sentence supposed to mean?"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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Your vote history is that you never once voted Devestation before the CC by the cop.
You also voted with him for most of the day. The fact that you voted him once he was CCed does not exclude from being scum, but rather is more likely because you realized he was going down no matter what you did."Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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Then the reason you are voting me makes no sense. You should of been pushing for konowa's lynch if this was true.dramonic wrote:This is rather strange. I am a town roleblocker and I targetted you night 1 Konowa, since I was unsure about you, yet you still got a read. Wouldn't 2 roleblockers in a single game be a bit much?
I blocked Sajin N2, btw."Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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Confirmed, I am a mason. Ryan's alignment is unconfirmed (which I totally don't understand why he is a mason, it should be neighbor, meh)ryan2754 wrote: I am a town mason.
My mason partner is Sajin. However, his alignment is NOT confirmed.
Wanted to put it out there before LYLO, worst case scenario.
I am not sure what good claiming now did, but sure. Its better than me dieing tonight and have ryan claim town mason and skate free if he is scum. But I have a town read on ryan based on our QT."Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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Clearly either konowa or dramonic have lied to us. Since scum have already CCed konowa, I am more inclined to believe him over dramonic because if konowa and dramonic were scum partners that was an absolutely fail bus.Riceballtail wrote:Well, clearly that would make a mafia RB. I'm not completely convinced dra is faking yet.
Dramonic: Who'd you target N1?
Thanks for defending your scum partner though."Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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Sajin wrote:
Then the reason you are voting me makes no sense. You should of been pushing for konowa's lynch if this was true.dramonic wrote:This is rather strange. I am a town roleblocker and I targetted you night 1 Konowa, since I was unsure about you, yet you still got a read. Wouldn't 2 roleblockers in a single game be a bit much?
I blocked Sajin N2, btw.
Figures, you would respond to it after I called you out on it.dramonic wrote:also
vote: Konowa
You are lying, sir.
Regardless if you actually were town you should be happy to be lynched knowing that you can call out konowa as a liar for the next day from the grave. 1 for 1s are good for us.
As it stands its far more likely your the mafia roleblocker."Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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Why do you think I am scum? Because I suspect you?Riceballtail wrote:
Gotta keep trying to tie me down to him? That way when your scumbuddy dies, you can push me tomorrow?Sajin wrote:I like the "die scum die" comment for an extra distancing attempt. Nice touch.
We may yet get profitable discussion out of this yet."Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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Here are my thoughts:
Konowa: town-CCed by mafia...twice.
RBT- Town-Investigated innocent??
Sajin- Town-vote history
Ryan- Unlikely scum, has good voting history and case.
Pim/replacee- unlikely scum
My Milked Eek- low commentary on both scum lynches. Suddenly pipes up when the cop claims a guilty up on someone other than him. Bad vote history.
vote My Milked Eek"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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I think its obvious. Setting up a ML.My Milked Eek wrote:
I don't see how it would be. That post was made when I thought rbt flipped guilty.Sajin wrote:No. That last post is somewhat incriminating imo if RBT is indeed innocent.
Who is scum then? Make me a case where I should not be voting you."Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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You have not made a case. You have not stated who you think is more likely scum except blanket listing everyone with no reasons. 2 unanswered questions sir (granted one was a demand not a question, still)
My reason for Pim to be unlikely scum is that a nightkill was made without him checking in. Possible? sure. Likely? not very.
Feel free to point out where you think I was apparently twisting. I think you were aiming for a future ML. Thats not twisting, thats me getting a read. Can you explain the point of that post if its intent was to not get a future ML?
I have reasons for you being on bottom of my town list."Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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Actually. That 397 looks pretty good for eek.
unvote
After rereading and fencing words with eek I don't suspect him as much. My new list:
Sajin
Konowa-town CCed a ton of times
Eek- good post on scum, doubt he would call out 2 scumbuddies in one post like that.
Ryan- town- decent arguements.
Pim- Seeking Replacement for so long semi scummy.
RBT- I think RBT could be a godfather play is still scummy and so are connections.
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This is where I got the could not form an opinion line from. Regardless, I hope my theory in the last post made sense.My Milked Eek wrote:
That's one request in its entirety. I said "after ani posted" as I cannot get how I could form an opinion on someone who hasn't posted yet.Sajin wrote:You have not made a case. You have not stated who you think is more likely scum except blanket listing everyone with no reasons. 2 unanswered questions sir (granted one was a demand not a question, still)"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."-
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