It's time for some new energy. LOWELL is in the hizzouse.
From the top:
18- Far Cry votes lowell for pikcing on him [-]
28- FC unvotes, votes iamausername, 3rd vote
30s- people debate whether 3rd votes are scummy [-, no one cares!]
51- qwints FOSs people for saying 3rd votes are bad [+]
64- dank enters, votes hero for openly lurking [+]
72- kiku votes farcry for misrepresentation of lowell case
73- hero defends the charge [-]
75- qwints votes hero for defending others [+]
80- kiku unvotes, votes hero for defending farcry
93- farcry explains lowell vote
94- dank points out farcry's inconsistency about newbishness [+]
97- kiku agrees, votes farcry
98- mokina vote nadroj for active lurking
102- hero votes kiku
106- nadroj votes hero for defending farcry
115- farcry votes tenchi for "staying out of the way"
123- iamausername votes dank for setting impossible standards for hero
126- kiku votes hero for defending others
135- kiku wants masons to come forward [?]
155- wiirdo argues against mason likeliness
157- mokina votes kiku for rolefishing/quicklynching [--]
164- lowell votes hero for being angry and meta
170- mokina wants others to get involved [-, subtle derailment]
172- qwints votes lowell for being useless
173- iamauser votes kiku for trying to draw a claim [-]
184- wiirdo votes lowell for active lurking
196- iamausername vote mokina for slipping [+]
199- nadroj votes mokina
201- kiku leads w/ 3 votes
203- kiku votes mokina for slip
233- hero and mokina are masons [!!!], mokina confirms
240s- unvotes abound
261- dank explains why mason claims are good [+]
270- nadroj votes lowell
271- farcry calls lowell too scummy to be scum [+, I love it!], votes nadroj
283- meaningless post by qwints [-]
290- adorable (meaningless) post by farcry, says he knows who scum are unless he doesn't
293- qwints votes farcry [-, opportunistic]
295- dank votes farcry for equivocating
296- nadroj votes farcry for same reason [-, tries to explain it as new]
298- hero votes nadroj for bandwagoning
299- dank points out nadroj's followyness, votes nadroj [+]
Thoughts on Masons:
I very strongly believe the mason claim. It fits with their behavior. As I read it in thread, I had just come to the decision to vote for mokina for her subtle (and not subtle) derailment of the hero wagon. In particular, 170 looked like someone who was intentionally trying to get the lay of the land (asking others to participate more) to see how best to defend a buddy (hero). I now have
mokina
and
hero
as squarely pro-town.
On that note, I'm also of the opinion that D1 mason claims are good, so mokina should quit her worrying about them. I always claim mason D1, and have found it puts scum in an awkward position. Hero and mokina should know that if they die tonight (my experience is that it's unlikely), they'll be protecting a powerrole. If scum go for powerrole instead, they will be leaving themselves vulnerable the next day as the field of possible scum shrinks. There's really no good option for scum in this case, and as such I'm suspicious of those people who think pushing for a mason claim is scummy (this exonerates kiku to some degree).
Some scummy players:
qwints
- he has more than his fair share of meta posts, posts attacking lurkers, and opportunistic votes (see 51, 172, 293). He does a lot of agreeing and seconding other players thoughts. I can't remember a time when he really got into it with another player for more than a post or so.
nadroj
- dank points out the case on nadroj best in 299. He agrees with people, votes easy targets, and posts just enough not to be too lurky. 270 in particular seems off. After his mokina vote (which he had done after others) fell out of favor, he quickly and quietly jumped to a safer vote, aka lowell. This was unlikely to draw much attention one way or the other, and made it so he didn't really have to comment on the mason situation.
iamausername
- he doesn't get points for whining about possible mason claims in 173, and suggesting that somone merely
suggesting
such claims is scummy is itself a stretch. 123 doesn't sit well either, as it feels once too clever. dank is attacking hero, and IAUN jumps in, spins it around, and calls dank's standards too high. That is both (a) incorrect, and (b) counterproductive as hell. He wanted the attack on hero to fall apart before anyone knew (or think we know) hero's role. This OPEN derailment (unlike mokina's subtle kind) has a hint of buddying to it.
Some town players:
far_cry
- Early on everything about him looked scummy. The whole "is he or is he not a newbie" debate, the "lowell is scummy and lurky" debate, the way he just plays newbish and seems to be on the wrong side of everything. But overall I think he's handled the pressure he's gotten pretty well, and I find 271 to be impressive not only because he takes my side, but also because it shows a bit more range in thought than a worried scum might show. Also, post 290 is adorable and for whatever reason makes me think he's town. No scum would post such an empty vessel of a post and expect to get away with it.
Tenchi
- It's true he's a lurker, but I haven't seen what others apparently have regarding his scumminess. His 3rd and 7th posts (in isolation) are both on the mark, and nothing he's done screams scum to me.
dank
- I don't know what to say, he's just been useful. 261 and 299 in particular.
Some players who are useless:
wiirdo, Neferenom
- no comment
Meh:
kikuchiyo
- whatever. Early on she seemed scummy, in the middle she looked better 126-203, lately she's neurtral. I don't agree with the farcry wagon.
vote qwints
. I like this one a little better than nadroj, though I'd definately like to hear what they both have to say.
