Mini 762 - Secret-role Mafia, Status: Mod Gone, Plug Pulled

[charter]

Hello. Gonna read up tonight or tomorrow.

unvote

[charter]

FOS Nab and BB.

By page three I'm heavily leaning BB scum.

Nab is looking like his scumbuddy.

I see nothing wrong with millar. The last scum might be on his wagon.

113- Holy crap. I hope Ash got lynched in the next seven posts after that.

Unvote, Vote Ash

No one saw this? No Ash votes at all? Ash has been on every large wagon with absolutely no reason. He just goes from one to the other.

None of the other wagons look good. We need more Ash votes. Five more I believe.

[charter]

Guys, Ash is scum like WHOA!

Everyong needs to explain why Ash is or is not scum in their NEXT POST so we can find all his scumbuddies. You earn double town points if you vote for him too!

[charter]

FOS millar.

[charter]

No, you have majorly raised in scumminess by entirely ignoring giving your opinion on Ash.

[charter]

@Charter: Where exactly is your opinion on me coming from?

The first few pages, off the top of my head there was the self vote and you had questionable interactions with BB. If I decide to pursue this I will be more specific, but for now Ash needs votes.

No, you have majorly raised in scumminess by entirely ignoring giving your opinion on Ash.

To be honest I don't really have one...he doesn't seem scummy but he doesn't seem town either. What can I say?

You could have said that. You could also go back and take a closer look at his posts and tell us if you still don't have an opinion

[charter]

Your vote is scummy. If you do not think Ash is scummy, why vote him? His wagons grown enough in the past few posts. (in the past page?)

I'm just waiting for his explaination. If by some miracle he has some great explanation for his behavior, then I have a number two I will look at. If the explanation is lacking, then I'm all for lynching. Pretty sure he's not the mystery role either.

[charter]

Why are people voting for millar?

[charter]

Why are people voting for millar?

That was a mistake you made there....as earlier you placed an FOS on me. You must have had reason to suspect me then. Got ya!

...except I never did.

[charter]

I FOSed you because you didn't give an opinion on Ash after it was specifically asked for. I had forgotten about that, I was just thinking about my replacing in post, but that isn't a reason to vote you unless Ash is revealed scum. I'm wondering why people are voting for you because I don't see why.

[charter]

millar, are you actually Ash's buddy? I had previously thought no, but HOW THE HELL IS FORGETFULNESS A SCUMTELL/TRAIT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT? That's an absurd suggestion.

[charter]

No, it's not that you voted me. I doubt you're going to get anyone to follow you when your case is I forget. I'm wondering because that's such a ridiculously bad reason to be voting for someone, I sense ulterior motives.

The reason I wanted to know why people were voting you is because, when I replaced in, I saw no reason to vote you, so I wanted to hear why people are. No one has voted you after I replaced in, so that's why I wasn't even thinking about your actions after I replaced in (when I FOSed you), because those weren't reasons people found you suspicious enough to be voted, which is why I had forgotten about it. I actually did go check my replacing in post, and saw that I had the same thing (why are people voting millar) in that one. I didn't check the rest of my posts because no one had voted you afterwards, which means that I wouldn't find any reasons that people voted you there.

[charter]

That made absolutely no sense.

[charter]

Ok... I'm not going to argue this with you anymore. If someone else sees things your way then I'll talk to them.

[charter]

I had the same issue with Charter right around the time you replaced in. I would say the odds he is scum is up in the 30s right now. Maintaining vote on Ash is almost a formality aside from his scummy statements.

Odds I'm scum up to 30% or millar is?

[charter]

Elias, can you summarize why you're voting millar?

[charter]

Request PROD/REPLACEMENT of Ash

I think his time is up?

Prod request granted. - the mod

[charter]

Because I think he's scum. I want him to post something. If he's replaced, I'm going to think his replacement is scum, but at least he wont be dead weight. I'm perfectly happy lynching him now without his explanation, but others aren't, so we need to get him posting.

If you're going to call me scum, then you'd better give some reasons why.

[charter]

No you were, your question was prefaced with the assumption I'm scum.

[charter]

Lynching Ash is better than getting him modkilled.

[charter]

I need to reread...
Out of suspects.

[charter]

Well, I was really sure Ash was scum. Nab was one of my other suspects, but I thought he was buddies with Beyond_Birthday, but that's clearly not the case. So I want to reread with this new knowledge in mind.

[charter]

Why only call out Beyond_Birthday for lurkervoting? Lowell did it too.

[charter]

Sorry I haven't reread yet. Will do so soon..

[charter]

Ok, I reread, and right now I'm going to

Vote AWA

He really has given us absolutely nothing to work with. I feel his post 84 (his largest by far) gives neutral reads or just comments on everyone. He hasn't taken much of an opinion on anyone.

My next two largest suspects are Lowell and BB. I'll elaborate on these later.

[charter]

I think if AWA had some more votes, he could find some content to comment on.

[charter]

Unvote

His claim checks out. Anyone going to counterclaim? Everyone claim cop or not cop in your next post.

I'm not the cop.

[charter]

Well, I'm still waiting to see if anyone is going to counter before I comment on anything else.

[charter]

Elias, Lowell, Simpor, skitzer, and xenaroth haven't posted yet, how can you just assume none of them is going to counter?

[charter]

well im not the cop. the millar result seems to make sense to me, millar would be a likely investigation. then again, easy enough to choose the most believable investigation target and call them innocent. No smart cop would counterclaim right now though.

Why wouldn't they counter? It would guarentee we lynch scum, then we just have one left. It would be easy to win.

[charter]

...Skitzer, claiming "not cop" only helps the mafia figure out who the cop is if it isn't the one who claimed.

Unvote, Vote Beyond_Birthday

Blatent attempt at slinging suspicion at Skitzer. GUESS WHAT, EITHER THE PERSON WHO CLAIMED COP IS COP OR THEY ARE SCUM. We were trying to see if someone counterclaimed. Scum already know if AWA is cop or not, now town is learning too.

This easily went through a townie's mind, guess it could have slipped scum's mind.

I believe everyone posted after AWA and no one countered, so I believe him.

[charter]

And FOS Elias, because he said about the same thing.

[charter]

No. When AWA claimed, if he isn't scum, then guess what, scum know who the cop is. If AWA is not the cop, he is scum, and therefore someone countering is a good thing.

The only reason why BB could possibly have noted skitzer claiming NOT COP (which a bunch others did but got no mention from BB) is if he was looking for somewhere to place blame.

There is basically no way that BB, as town, would have told off skitzer for saying he wasn't cop, after the cop had claimed, and other people were saying they were not cop. It only makes sense if BB is scum.

[charter]

Myself, Lowell, Elias, and skitzer all claimed not cop. Why does BB single out skitzer for a completely bogus reason? millar, BB's reasoning makes no sense if he is town.

Mod, can we get a prod on Xenaroth.

He hasn't posted, so I guess it's possible he is cop.

Prod request granted. - the mod

[charter]

No. When AWA claimed, if he isn't scum, then guess what, scum know who the cop is. If AWA is not the cop, he is scum, and therefore someone countering is a good thing.

The only reason why BB could possibly have noted skitzer claiming NOT COP (which a bunch others did but got no mention from BB) is if he was looking for somewhere to place blame.

There is basically no way that BB, as town, would have told off skitzer for saying he wasn't cop, after the cop had claimed, and other people were saying they were not cop. It only makes sense if BB is scum.

Wrong? Cop=/=scum. 2scum is worth losing the cop over. a Faulty cop (insane somehow) is worth losing a scum. If cop dies, unless at lylo, we'll lynch AWA anyway. However, helping scum make that happen sooner, if AWA is lying, is a BAD IDEA. Again, flawed.

Scum: Skitzer is scum with either Charter or Millar. Possibly both. Just a hunch really, and I guess its due to Skitzer minorly coaching Millar and Charter's irrational defense of Skitzer's "not cop" and coaching.

...If the game remains this slow, I'm going to request replacement because ...slow games are not fun for me...

Just a warning.

No shit cop doesn't equal scum. That's what I'm saying. Scum know right now if AWA is scum or cop. AWA is one or the other. Scum already know. Now town is learning. It's dumb to let them know and not the rest of the town.

How can you suspect millar? That makes no sense. There's an innocent on him.

I'm pretty sure Beyond Birthday is scum. Nothing he has said since AWA claimed cop has made any sense.

[charter]

The only way I can see what you're saying making sense is if you think AWA is scum, and trying to draw out the real cop. If this is the case, wonderful, a one for one trade is a great deal for town. I don't see how this can be the case though, seeing as how you're not suspicious of AWA anymore, so once again, you're making no sense.

[charter]

AWA was about to be lynched. That's why he claimed. Do you guys not remember this? It's not like he claimed for fun or to clear one townie, he did it so we wouldn't lynch him.

[charter]

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT MILLAR?

WHERE THE FUCK DID I SAY KILLING THE COP WAS A GOOD THING? WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU GETTING THIS FROM?

WE ARE FINDING OUT FOR SURE IF HE IS COP. WHAT THE FUCK IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT? IF SOMEONE COUNTERS, WE LYNCH THE SCUMMIER OF THE TWO. THIS IS NOT FUCKING ROCKET SCIENCE.

Sorry, but you are being incredibly dense and incapable of understanding logic.

[charter]

I'm frustrated that you're pushing stuff that makes no sense.

[charter]

No, this is really scummy. However I think he only had two votes, pretty sure he still only has two. I think Lowell was already voting for him.

Mod

can we get a votecount please?

[charter]

The use of cap locks, and swear words suggest anger. Anger suggests being caught out.

wrong.

BB is being a quitter. lowell is scummy for suggesting we lynch him for this.

BB's scumbuddy.

[charter]

With two scum in the game, you have to have BALLS OF STEEL to bus your buddy.

I do not think we are likely to see a bus in this game.

[charter]

READ THE FUCKING FIRST POST. IT TELLS US THE SETUP.

[charter]

Prod Simpor?

I don't even remember anything about him.

Prod request granted. -the mod

I think BB is at L-1. I guess claim time?

[charter]

Actually, I don't think there is anything to claim, since he's not cop. No other power roles in the setup.

[charter]

Yeah, but BB posted plenty after you claimed, and never countered, so he's clearly not the cop. There's no other power role for him to claim, so he's either mafia or a townie, and his claim is going to be townie either way.

[charter]

Yeah, someone hammer BBscum. Then we lynch Elias. Game over.

[charter]

He hasn't posted on site for a while now, so he might not actually be.

[charter]

Everyone needs to pm meme saying you want to continue and with your role. That is all.

[charter]

No, I want to keep going.

[charter]

Bah, was town. I thought scum was Lowell and BB.