Open 133 - Lovers Mafia (Over) before 771

[Santos]

Vote: Empking

, its obvious this guy is scum and his scum buddy is going to die along with him.

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Heh. Cute.

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Shouldn't it be 'mortals' and not 'immortal'? Because the mod is 'immortal' right? Or am I bassackwards?

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What is this dice rolling you lot are doing?

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Instead of random voting or analyzing play style?

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Exactly.

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I feel unloved... Vote: Empking

Gotta love empking...

Vote: Empking, its obvious this guy is scum and his scum buddy is going to die along with him.

So I figured it would be cute to play along with him as he is a highly unpredictable player.
zwet then becomes confused as to why he is mentioned as a 'popular player at Mafiascum'. It seems he also furthers his candid remarks at Empking by hoping someone will get a rise out of them.

Nothing has happened to change my opinion on this. Willing to lynch zwet. Also note how Phily tries to get a second roll when sekinj's dice indicate that zwet should be lynched.

This is strange and feels like a complete stretch of the truth. This makes it seem like Phily is trying to defend zwet. But then again, this statement Korts makes is ironic because its followed up with:

I think that Phily is trying to frame me.

To me, zwet is putting the WIFOM in that post to try and back himself off from any connection with Phily. As we move further along with the game, I feel we should not ignore small comments from zwet because they clearly have useful intention. (And I mean by useful to appear town, but really be scum).

Not seeing the tunneling. There's only six people in the game and we've just started. It's much easier to focus on one individual to get us out of the random phase anyway. It was a rather obvious joke by Korts I feel.

You seem to be staking way too much into the policy lynch suggestion, Phily.

QFT?

I think zwet's reaction to phily's defense of him is interesting.

YES. I'm glad this was pointed out.

Lastly, either zwet has ADD or is unwilling to construct a post longer than one sentence. I'm not sure, but his defense for being affiliated with Phily became more apparent as he tried to shy it off with a blatant 'I'm being framed' appendage that points at him being scum with Phily.

Vote: zwet

[Santos]

[quote"zwet"]I agree with Korts logic, and it looks like Phily is doing exactly what he's describing, but to frame me, not bus me. Also, Santos, usually you're not going to get more than a sentence or two out of me.[/quote]
Okay. See you on the flip side then.

[Santos]

fixed.

I agree with Korts logic, and it looks like Phily is doing exactly what he's describing, but to frame me, not bus me. Also, Santos, usually you're not going to get more than a sentence or two out of me.

Okay. See yo on the flip side then.

(I know its probably not necessary to make a double post, but it friggin bugs me when I can't make a correct BB code post. I guess I'm the one with ADD, right? lol)

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'you'

fixed.

And OCD.

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Cool.

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Who is Empking talking to?

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I'm not sure why my vote was taken off zwet.

Vote: zwet

[Santos]

^ = I touch myself to this thread.

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As it is looking now we have 3 options:

Phily
zwet
and now possibly Korts (given that Phily is telling the truth and turns up town)

Since none of us can get a read on zwet (or I assume this because no one has really figured him out except to go with a 'hit or miss') Phily seems like the logical choice for us on Day 1. Why?

Since this is basically a shot in the dark lynch approaching me, I entice the group to lynch Korts the next day and push out scum after I turn up town.

If this turns out to be true, then we can win the game by lynching Korts and thus killing his partner.

Unvote: zwet


Vote: PhilyEc

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Korts, back yourself up to post 156 and 158 and define 'hammer' and 'furtive' and you tell me what I would think?

[Santos]

Hi, i am at work. I am posting from my blackberry. I will be off work in a few hours to respond to all your questions. Thanks for being patient with me.

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Edit to the above post:

I will not be able to contribute tonight. Friday night (california, USA time) I will catch up.

[Santos]

I am back at my parents for the weekend. thank you for waiting. I took careful time in going back over day 1 and today and this is what I believe will lead us to a town win:

@Korts, you've got to be kidding me with the accusations as 'opportunistic'. How is it opportunistic when you yourself demanded a Phily lynch? You yourself directed the town to lynch who you thought was the most scummy for Day 1 and you were wrong. You're either a townie and need to admit you're wrong or your scum that is now diverting the attention from yourself to me for something completely trivial (or maybe not so trivial because most of us decided to lynch a townie now. This is a huge FAIL and I'll soon explain why)
I think Sekinj is just calling you out on how stupid it is that you are trying to say its my fault for lynching Phily when you instigated it the most. But she is definitely trying to buddy herself up with me which I now see as a possible scumtell as well. I now believe we have a definite scum out in the light. Its quite laughable really, look:

sekinj is no doubt attacking Korts and defending me for Korts accusations of me being 'opportunistic', but we are seriously going to shoot ourselves in the foot if we don't see how awful it is that we're all attacking each other and not observing the simple things that other players have ignored in the past. What struck me as most ambiguous was Lynx's

Right now I'm looking at Sekinj as one lover and the other one will be filled after Sekinj's lynch.

I won't vote just yet

until I'm positive to avoid the chance of a scum doggy pile after my vote.

Lynx is obviously dishing WIFOM or else he would see that Sekinj is incredibly scummy at this point in the game. He is ignoring her as he neglected zwet on Day 1. This is where I'm sort of torn as to who Lynx would more likely be partnered with: sekinj/swet.

During day 1 I figured everyone was over the zwet discussion so I went with Korts suggestion. Now I am glad I did, even though it cost us Phily...
So what do we have? We have Sekinj playing a grossly overt defense of me hoping Korts will vote me so the scum can end the game by killing me and win. I now see why we didn't go for zwet because we had to decide between Phily and him to see if there actually was a relationship. This cost a townie, but hopefully a win for the town as Phily hoped. Even though we were wrong about Phily, we are more right about zwet having a scum partner as much as sekinj would. So, the only way to figure it out is lynching Lynx. Here is why:

Korts, you yourself mentioned previous Lovers mafias and how most of those ended up with townies blasting each other and the mafia gently glided by for a win by hanging out laughing at them. As suggested, i skimmed over a few of them and the answer is dire: lynch the lurkers (or in this case anyone who acts like zwet or Lynx or Sekinj are doing) It was obvious on Day 1 as it is obvious today. I feel that Lynx is riding it out and waiting for us to make a mistake. He is not committing a vote at this time because he wants to know what everyone else will vote before he votes; same with zwet and sekinj. IMO, this is overly cautious and entirely condemnable as scum because he wants to vote immediately after a townie votes for the wrong person. However, since zwet and sekinj are hot topics now on both days, he is careful to wait and see what happens.

Korts, you need to make the right decision this time. Sekinj and zwet are the second scummiest in my eyes, but it is Lynx that is tanning in the sun while watching us burn each other.

You will notice that Sekinj is in no way going to attack Lynx, but at the same time zwet is avoiding any address at Lynx as well. Its a difficult decision to make, but one of them is protecting Lynx. I see Lynx with either zwet or sekinj, but it has to be zwet moreso because Lynx was in no part ready to go after zwet in any part of the game. However, my accusation that zwet is Lynx's partner is troubled because of my suggestion that Lynx is weary in applying his vote on sekinj, who he apparently finds most scummy right now. Funny huh?

Vote: Lynx

pun intended

'the Antithesis'

. I think I figured it out and the past Lover Mafias certainly helped me out in the observation.

[Santos]

I don't understand why my votes aren't counting this whole game.

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check the edit history, smarty pants.

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check my posts and you'll see why.

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hey, a concept that works: ignorance.

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Well, then sit on it Potsy.

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Hey, this is pretty easy; posting one liners every game.

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CAPS FOR THE WIN.

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Not with that 14 year old mouth.

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15

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Hey, I didn't go to school for math.

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A point to eating my soul?

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Eat me.

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I was just showing you how immature you are, bud. You can 'win' if you like.

@Lynx, what?

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How in any way have I ignored Sekinj? Or Zwet for that matter? Lastly how is this WIFOM? You're making a lot of vague comments with nothing to back it up here.

1) Ignoring, IMO, is not humoring us with a vote on who you suspected. You were just simply waiting. I'm not sure how to read that as pro town when you certainly see her being scum at the end of this day; or me for that matter! Something is just ticking my scumdar about your hesitation :/
2) Zwet was ignored when everyone decided Phily was going to turn up scum. I even mentioned before I laid the hammer that we would definitely figure out who scum was Day 2 by finding out what Phily was.
3)'I won't vote just yet until I'm positive to avoid the chance of a scum doggy pile after my vote. ' I considered this WIFOM because you appear to be acting town instead of putting a vote on sekinj. If you were so convinced she was scum, then why wouldn't you just vote? Obviously, you're extremely skeptical, or in fact her partner trying to avoid voting her and seeing zwet and korts and myself pile right on.

Classifying my play as lurking is quite the stretch I think. It's even more of a reach to call half of the player's play in this game lurky. You think you and Korts have moved this game along all by yourself?

So your 1 post every now and then qualifies as participating actively? Its strange that you even agreed with me at one point during the game on Day 1. And zwet's 1 liners, and sekinj's blatant lurking isn't going to fall under that category of avoiding game play as much as possible? If that isn't true, then I am wrong, but its just what I've observed in this *corner* of the thread.

First off, why is Sekinj not going to attack me? Just because she hasn't yet doesn't mean she won't. Maybe she had no points to attack me with because I'm not scummy? How is Zwet avoiding any address towards myself?

When, at any time during this game, have they called you out on anything? When has ANYONE but myself done this? I re-read the thread and you seem entirely suspect! Its just what I've found as scummy.

You said early that I don't see Sekinj is scummy, but now you're saying I find her most scummy? Why this turnaround?

Why are we in Day 2 and you're not going after zwet now? I would like to know that actually.

I doubt you're going to be 'satisfied' with those responses. Why? Because the way I've viewed the game and how I've been observing your play, just indicates me that you're a very clever scum waiting idly by for a chance to strike.

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Naw, Santos just works a lot lol

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Also, I knew I couldn't fight Korts anymore after Day 2 started so I was trying to appeal to him. I thought I had a decent case against Lynx, but you guys ultimately caught Sekinj.