Open 120 - Rebels in the Palace - Game Over! before 756

[zwetschenwasser]

Yakaza Whuza!

Vote: BlakAdder

Anyone crazy enough to own a black adder has to be the king.

[zwetschenwasser]

I agree with the random voting at least after we do some actual scumhunting first.

[zwetschenwasser]

I think the roles in the first post were the actual role PMs. Why would the mod lie?

[zwetschenwasser]

um... are you purposely trying to confuse us?

Unvote; Vote: Lynx

[zwetschenwasser]

That quote means nothing.

[zwetschenwasser]

It does. You're taking it completely out of context. It's true. Scum have the disadvantage in this game. Your argument is meaningless.

[zwetschenwasser]

I just did. Now shut up.

[zwetschenwasser]

Do you know what "don't be annoying" means?

[zwetschenwasser]

No.

[zwetschenwasser]

Because I don't want to.

[zwetschenwasser]

Good luck to you. Also, what's special about his name?

[zwetschenwasser]

Oops. Never mind, I'm an idiot!

[zwetschenwasser]

Where did this come from?

[zwetschenwasser]

PRUFT

[zwetschenwasser]

Every 24 hours is sort of hard for a lot of people.

[zwetschenwasser]

From a statistical point of view. Can't we just play the game normally and see what happens?

[zwetschenwasser]

I'm pretty sure the random lynching bandwagon is at least partially scum driven.

[zwetschenwasser]

I endorse the above post.

[zwetschenwasser]

Shinnen, this is a game, not a science. We want to use logic and brains to find the king, not mindless random lynching.

[zwetschenwasser]

lol! PRUFT

[zwetschenwasser]

It's my invention: Posted Right Under For Truthery. It's my trademark, along with compulsive claiming whenever possible.

[zwetschenwasser]

By strong vote, I meant vote he'd stick with.

Even though he changed his vote in the post just before yours?

[zwetschenwasser]

Me 2.

Unvote; Vote: Shinnen_no_Me

. After thinking about it, it would be quite easy for scum to manipulate any random lynch early in the day as long as they did it quickly.

[zwetschenwasser]

lol.

[zwetschenwasser]

I think she said she DIDN'T want a replacement, sek.

Please communicate with the mod via PM if you have concerns.

It is unfair for all the players if one player wants to be lynched instead of asking for replacement. 4 of 7 votes is not close enough to a lynch to be unfair to the newcomer.

[zwetschenwasser]

I think is trying to get us to think that by appealing to emotions. Also, sorry about that, mr. mod.

[zwetschenwasser]

Shinnen.

[zwetschenwasser]

You have to admit that game breaking is a viable strategy in this game, just not a particularly fun one.

[zwetschenwasser]

I agree that he's probably not the king. However, his overall play suggests guarddom.

[zwetschenwasser]

Empking, of course. Also,

Unvote

, as your predecessor definitely wasn't being fair to you or the spirit of the game.

[zwetschenwasser]

Hmm... Good point. But we can't really trust anyone not to be the king in this game.

[zwetschenwasser]

We can't pick random lynches. We have to agree to someone taking dice and posting the results. If that person is the king, then we're screwed for obvious reasons. I see no really efficient way to random lynch.

[zwetschenwasser]

[zwetschenwasser]

No Random Lynch

[zwetschenwasser]

Wait... so are we agreeing to let Empking do the random lynch rolls?

[zwetschenwasser]

Corvuus, are you saying that we should trust the lurkers? That doesn't sound right at all...

[zwetschenwasser]

The chopping block?

[zwetschenwasser]

Cmon, folks. If we're going to let scum manipulate us into not sticking to either the random lynch or the non-random lynch plan we should just ditch it. If we want to not let scum manipulate us we should go through with the random lynches.

Vote: Wall-e

[zwetschenwasser]

Yay! We have one smart person int he house.

[zwetschenwasser]

I also find it interesting that Wall-e hasn't posted his thoughts on us random-lynching him.

[zwetschenwasser]

It would be amazing if Wall-e were the king...

[zwetschenwasser]

We should go with the four. Ort is probably trying to manipulate us awayf rom lynching Empking's rolls.

Vote: Lynx the Antithesis

[zwetschenwasser]

He's doing the scum manipulation thing I mentioned Day 1.

[zwetschenwasser]

Vote: Orangepenguin

I wonder if our mod is getting mad at us...

[zwetschenwasser]

WAKACHAKAI!!

[zwetschenwasser]

Orangepenguin, WERE YOU THE KING??

[zwetschenwasser]

Who's tomorrow?

[zwetschenwasser]

[zwetschenwasser]

Isn't that the point? To not let them manipulate us with scum craplogic before we randomlynch them?

[zwetschenwasser]

Vote: Zachrulez

He has to be a guard, right?

[zwetschenwasser]

There's a very good chance you're a guard. Don't let scum manipulate us, people! Stay with the program...

[zwetschenwasser]

emotional plea! OMG!

[zwetschenwasser]

Random crapspouting! OMG!

[zwetschenwasser]

Foolish grasshopper. It's clear that you don't want us rebels to end your reign of terror.

[zwetschenwasser]

We have more than a 50/50 chance that Zach is a guard/king.

[zwetschenwasser]

Well, we have a 4/9 chance. That's close to 50.

[zwetschenwasser]

Too many numbers.. mind going numb...

[zwetschenwasser]

Hohum, this is not the place for stupid crap prejudices. Shut up with your Empking sucks BS and play the game.

[zwetschenwasser]

Since when did this discussion die down? Since when are you the sole person to tell us that a discussion has died down? You never said you got a mod warning.

[zwetschenwasser]

Very convenient how you chose not to say that opinion earlier, Tony.

[zwetschenwasser]

Yes.

[zwetschenwasser]

I love it how people take me seriously when I joke around and say I'm joking when I'm being serious. 302/04 were jokes, but now it looks like Tony is trying to look like Empking with the random rolls. Empking looks like town now, btw, for being the one who rolled the random schtuff.

[zwetschenwasser]

How is this useful?

[zwetschenwasser]

Fascinating.

[zwetschenwasser]

Now you're trying to get on the town side by going with the general opinion.

[zwetschenwasser]

Can't argue with that logic.

[zwetschenwasser]

This is amazing. "You're scum. Now hold on while I go get a McMuffin and I'll tell you why."

[zwetschenwasser]

He also doesn't seem to WANT to give his thoughts on why I'm scum.

[zwetschenwasser]

I'm trying to decide between tony and qangan.

[zwetschenwasser]

I just noticed:

his stance/meta is similar/close to mine.

Just curious: Where are you getting my meta from? My only two completed games have been with Trumpetscum, and the only other game I'm dead in really isn't a great one to meta me from.

Now, a few thoughts.
If Empking is king, neither zwet nor hohum can be guards. (Similarly, if Emp is guard, neither zwet nor hohum can be king.)
If zwet is king, neither Emp nor Tony can be guards. (Similarly, if zwet is guard, neither Emp nor Tony can be king.)

I can see zwet as a guard, given Tony's list of things zwet said in 347, which rules out the possibility of Emp or Tony as king. While I will switch my vote if it becomes obvious who the king is, for now I'm comfortable with a

Vote: zwetschenwasser.

WTF? Do you have any backing for this random spouting of nonsense?

[zwetschenwasser]

Do we need any more number crunching in this game?

[zwetschenwasser]

Welcome, veerus. The only thing I don't like about Corvuus' last post is that by talking about different ways scum can talk it looks like he's giving a signal himself.

[zwetschenwasser]

Corvuus, it's just something that bothers me. It looks like you're directing the king/guard to act a certain way to defend your master, by your capitalizing of words and other verbiage. Tony, it doesn't help to criticize something we already did.

[zwetschenwasser]

I'm not trying hard to look active, I AM active. Seriously, I was just nominated for the title "Cricket with Restless Leg Syndrome"

[zwetschenwasser]

I don't like how corvuus is spending an inordinate amount of time speculating on possible scum signals.

[zwetschenwasser]

Nice way to active lurk, Tony and Emp.

[zwetschenwasser]

That's harsh. On another note, are we in LYLO at the moment?

[zwetschenwasser]

Hey, it worked! I got him to make an appeal to emotion.

Unvote; Vote: TonyMontana

This last post clinches it.

[zwetschenwasser]

Why are you freaking out? He's at L-2, not L-1.

[zwetschenwasser]

Why the heck are you sure that we are both town? Also, the L-1 pressure is good to encourage discussion. I didn't know we were at L-1, but I'm keeping my vote.

[zwetschenwasser]

We have three days till deadline.

[zwetschenwasser]

You're sure he's king? He could be a guard, you know. How are you so confident in this?

[zwetschenwasser]

Huh? Then why do you want to lynch him so badly? How do you know he's not the king?

[zwetschenwasser]

Wait... so qangan is the king?

[zwetschenwasser]

*facepalm* WHY DO YOU TORTURE ME

[zwetschenwasser]

Ahh... That makes sense.

[zwetschenwasser]

The fact that people are hesitating up to the deadline date to hammer suggests that Tony is the king.

[zwetschenwasser]

Hohum isn't in this game. Are you going to spam your way through this day too? In other news, I'm disturbed that veerus seems so willing to allow the three scum (possibly two or one, if both or either ort/veerus are guards/king) to manipulate a mislynch from the quick L-2 vote.

[zwetschenwasser]

Vote: Corvuus

Ort has a good case.

[zwetschenwasser]

Six people left, two are scum. Interesting... It appears ort was half right.

[zwetschenwasser]

Makes sense, but we should probably wait for him to say something first.

[zwetschenwasser]

Emp, why did you vote for a nonexistent player?

[zwetschenwasser]

Vote: Qangan

In light of his recent over-defensive moves.

[zwetschenwasser]

If Qangan is the king, we win.
If Qangan is a rebel, we lynch Ort tomorrow (king, probably)
If Qangan is a guard, we discuss more tomorrow.

It's pretty much a win-null-null situation.

[zwetschenwasser]

Ort, we're not going to have many leads tomorrow if there is a tomorrow. Pushing a mislynch is about the only scumtell we could possibly have tomorrow.

[zwetschenwasser]

I'm leaning veerusking with Quanganguard at the moment.

[zwetschenwasser]

IMO, Qangan's case on you is a masked version of OMGUS.

[zwetschenwasser]

He did do that. Check out two pages ago.

[zwetschenwasser]

[zwetschenwasser]

As this game is stalling, I will

Vote: Qangan

. We have less than a day until deadline people. Pick up the pace!

[zwetschenwasser]

Damn... I'm surprised that I stayed alive so long.

[zwetschenwasser]

I tried to make myself look better by hammering Corvuus...

[zwetschenwasser]

Corvuus, I wasn't trying to get myself killed. I thought that you, zach, and qangan were guards for most of the game, and I thought if I hammered a couple I would look townier.