Open 113 - Lover Mafia : Game over! before 734

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/confirm

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Can this be another number? I will be getting confused between this and the other Open 109...

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I'm fairly sure that it must be the same number since this is not... technically a new game. I guess just for record's sake it must be the same.

Nonetheless, can you ask farside? Seeing 2 Open 109s will confuse me.

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I have sent her a PM. You could just subscribe to this topic and unsubcribe to the other?

Every game I play in without being replaced stays permanently in my Watched Topics.

Besides, I'd be surprised if we make it to page 3 of this game without me linking to or quoting the other one.

And this is definatively a different game than the other one. We have new players, new roles, and a new Mod.

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Vote: Tajo

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Vote: not a new number. I already forgot the last one.

I've sent a PM to farside, but it absolutely needs to be changed. Both games were played, both games need to be recorded as such.

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Trust me, this bandwagon is gold.

I agree 100%

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Unvote (Tajo), Vote: Yorgi

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First, he's at least not putting someone at L-1 and not offering a reason.

I swear, its only because there is no one (other than me) I could put at Lynch -1.

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EBWOP: Oh.

If they did it on the first page, yes, yes I would. It's still incredibly suspicious and L-1 is a nice scum spot. What's there to learn from the last game? There's always the chance that he's making a dumb town move, that's ALWAYS a possibility. In fact, last game I gave him quite a bit of benefit of the doubt, and it wasn't just for that that I voted him. His entire defense was scummy.

You realize, of course, I was going out of my way to avoid answering your questions properly, right?

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populartajo: Yes, I am a newb here. That comment to Yorgi was nothing more than being random, I never suspected it would be taken so serious though.

As far as SensFan is concerned, I am wondering why he would agree Populartajo's comment that my wagon is golden and then go and vote Yorgi and put her at 2 votes. Maybe it is random, but it is weird.

Eh, if you really care.

Unvote, Vote: Tanarin

[SensFan]

You realize, of course, I was going out of my way to avoid answering your questions properly, right?

I didn't, and I have nothing to base you on to say that you don't always play like that, but eh, I can understand why you'd do that. It generated more content, and I guess it'd be useful, but it possibly focused you on me and me on you, though it was just you, me, and yorgi that even posted in that game, so eh.

Was your vote on Yorgi random?

My vote will be on the leading bandwagon, as long as I am not voting for myself, or for a lynch.
If someone asks, comments, or implies I should be on another bandwagon, I will do so as long as that wagon is not on me, and by me switching will have as many votes as the one I am currently on.

[SensFan]

Sure.

Unvote, Vote: Yorgi

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Sens, so now yo are willing to put Yorgi at L-1 just so you an join as many wagons as possible, is that correct?

Yes and no.

And from this moment starts the argument between me and Sens about why I didn't hammer.

Damn straight you didn't hammer. And let's face it, Town can hammer anyone without losing the game. Scum can't.

if I got a wagon on you going BSG, I bet Sens would hop right on it.

Damn straight I would, as long as I could put her at Lynch-1 or hammer her.

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Sens: I re-read 109 and you say a quick lynch almost guarantees a town win. I personally feel in a 6P game like this we kinda need to be more careful. It would be real easy to totally mess things up given the logic you stated in the last game.

Let's focus on getting as many bandwagons in as we can. Everything will be explained later.

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Whoops.

Unvote, vote: Tanarin

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@Sens: First I get what your doing but it isn't going to give answers if scum know what you are doing and just go along. All it does is cause confuse in my opinion at this time.

That's the thing. Scum really can't afford to go along.

[SensFan]

Would you hammer if I were at L-1?

There is only 1 right answer to this question, and it is independant of who it is directed at, or who is hypothetically at L-1.

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@Sens: First I get what your doing but it isn't going to give answers if scum know what you are doing and just go along. All it does is cause confuse in my opinion at this time.

That's the thing. Scum really can't afford to go along.

They might to cause confusion. They might just because they dont' think people will hammer this early. The risk might be worth the rewards.

Which is why we need to actually hammer people that get to Lynch-1.

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@Sens: First I get what your doing but it isn't going to give answers if scum know what you are doing and just go along. All it does is cause confuse in my opinion at this time.

That's the thing. Scum really can't afford to go along.

They might to cause confusion. They might just because they dont' think people will hammer this early. The risk might be worth the rewards.

Which is why we need to actually hammer people that get to Lynch-1.

I think the point she is trying to get at is that as long as scum knows you are random voting and are looking for a hammer, then they could go and NOT hammer a townie on purpose to make you think that person is scum, thus leading to confusion.

My gameplan has very clearly sailed right over your head. Not hammering someone is a HUGE scumtell in this game.

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a contrived and anti-town agenda for him isn't a scum tell

I guarantee you, this is absolutely the ideal way for Town to play in this game. And trust me, I have more experience in this format than anyone else here.

[SensFan]

a contrived and anti-town agenda for him isn't a scum tell

I guarantee you, this is absolutely the ideal way for Town to play in this game. And trust me, I have more experience in this format than anyone else here.

This game lasts two days with 6 people. You're putting a ton of confidence in being able to find scum off of the first lynch, and quick days mean less info mean higher scum-winning chance.

I can see tajo defending BSG and see them as a possible pair, though I don't like that BSG hasn't been around. I'm considering switching to tajo. I'm considering hammering also, but someone will have to explain why Tanarin is actually scummy rather than just the leading bandwagon.

Nope. My plan is actually based around a Town lynch today. Scum lynch would just be lucky.

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Sens, I meant "Off" a first lynch, meaning that you're saying you're confident we can find scum based on the information we get from the first lynch.

Yep. Besides, I play this game by process of elimination.

[SensFan]

Yep. Besides, I play this game by process of elimination.

You only get one, you know.

I know. Just don't lynch me today, or if you insist on lynching me, make damn sure I get the chance to explain.

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I'm getting more and more unnerved by your style, because it's such a good place for scum to be. You hammer an innocent today and steer us to an innocent tomorrow, and scum wins. At the very least, I think we should discuss whether you're scum.

Don't worry about me being Scum today. Trust me.

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I'm getting more and more unnerved by your style, because it's such a good place for scum to be. You hammer an innocent today and steer us to an innocent tomorrow, and scum wins. At the very least, I think we should discuss whether you're scum.

Don't worry about me being Scum today. Trust me.

Who do you think are town? Scum? Too early?

BSG gets scumvibes from me.
Sens seems obvTown to me.

[SensFan]

If we trust you, chances for a scum win may be higher on all fronts regardless of your alignment. If you fail to deliver, scum wins. If you have a hidden agenda, scum wins. The only difference is that one of them is intentional.

You're not making your idea any more appealing when you put it up to trust. This game is entirely about trust, and you'd have to provide a reason for us to trust you to earn that trust.

I never asked you to lynch who I said was Scum, and never said I would be right. I said to trust that I am Town for the time being.

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How many votes is that?

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Unvote, Vote: Tajo

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Just be lucky I couldn't vote you twice.

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Sens. Please state your reasons to vote me.

Zilla (implicitly) asked me to.

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Damn it, Tanarin. If you had given me, like, 24 hours more, I probably would be confirmed now. As it stands, I think there's still one or two people I could in theory be Scum with, from your people's perspective.

I mean, I will be suspicious of anyone who thinks I'm Scum. It just won't mean they're obvScum now.

[SensFan]

Tanarin, you phail at Game Theory. A random lynch in Vengeful is absolutely terrible.

[SensFan]

Due to PMs being... strange, apparently my sentbox is telling me I didn't send BSG a prod when in fact I did, so I'm sending another one.

You know about the whole Outbox/Sentbox thing, right?

Zilla, you got something to say, say it. Got reasoning for how I could possibly be Scum, say it. Otherwise, let's look at people who could reasonably be Scum. Like Tanarin.

[SensFan]

I don't like Sens' remarks because they seem like "I'm so sorry I didn't get the chance to prove I'm not scum. Gee Whiz, ain't that a stinker?" A lot of what was said in that post either seems odd or oddly veiled. The whole "now I'm only suspicious of the people who suspect me instead of confirmed they are scum." line seems extraneous.

You don't realize, I'm sure, that if Day 1 had gone on 24-48 hours longer, I would be confirmed Town.

[SensFan]

BSG. Explain to me how I can possibly be Scum. Be sure to keep in mind my willingness to vote absolutely anyone. Off the top of my head, I put 3 people at Lynch-1, people I had no say in whatsoever.

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Bah. my plan won't work, fuggedaboudit.

vote: Zilla

Ummm...

Vote: Zilla

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Sorry, I'm just not buying that Town would vote themselves in 5p LyLo.

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@SensFan
We already knew from the previous game that you'd vote anyone who would get close to a lynch. You said that it's better to random lynch someone day 1. If you'd change that behaviour, it would be suspicious. So if you're scum, you have to put everyone close to a lynch, otherwise players would be suspicious of you. That's probably the reason why Zilla pointed it out that you weren't on the bandwagon with the most votes at a certain point.
If you're town, you'd put everyone close to be lynched as this is your playstyle at lover games, but if you're scum, you'd do the same as well as you'd be seen as scummy if you didn't. That's why you wouldn't be cleared by me.

This action really confuses me. I need to think this over.

Wrong. 109 was my first time playing like this, and my alignment was never revealed. Besides, you are missing the point. As Scum, I CANNOT POSSIBLY PLAY LIKE THAT. What the fuck would I do if someone asked me to hammer my buddy?

BSG/Zilla are Scum. kthxbai.

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... I can see why me, but why would BSG be my partner? I'd been trying to get him lynched all day, and I only switched because I think Tajo is his partner.

Ah well I'm of the belief and I know Sens will disagree with me that scum may attempt some bussing in this game to keep themselves distance from one another.

Some bussing, yes. Willingness to always be on the biggest wagon, no.

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Who would vote me on no reasoning with such conviction? The only thing that makes sense is that he knew he would win by voting me, and the only way he knows that is if he was mafia.

You fucking voted yourself in 5p LyLo. I don't believe for a second you are anywhere near retarded enough to do that as Town.

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You voted for someone for voting for herself in a 5p LyLo. I can't believe you'd be stupid enough to do that as town.

If you're Town, the game was over anyways. Or at least it could have easily been, whether or not I voted you. Me adding a vote does nothing.

Now explain why you're supposedly fucking retarded enough to vote yourself, as Town, in 5- LyLo.

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Bullshit. You don't put yourself 2 votes away from a Scum win, with 2 Scum out there and 'figure' you'd 'be able to catch it before [you] got the third vote'. That's complete bullshit.

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It sounds more like you're mad that you couldn't get me lynched.

That's absolutely ridiculous.

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I can't see town possibly voting the way Sens did, it's pretty much the exact post that you wouldn't expect anyone to make. It's blatantly scummy, and I see no reason town would make a no-comment vote to L-1 in LyLo on a self-voter. If the vote itself isn't enough, the method just screams "Let's wrap this up, scum win in the bag!" It was just unlucky for him that I was on.

Before I need to make any justifications, tell me why the Fuck Town would self-vote in LyLo. That's impossibly retarded.

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I'm pretty extremely sure I've hit scum with Sens because otherwise, the two scum would have hammered by now.

Given that everyone in this game is aware of the other possibility, why would you so obviously ignore it? Hoping people wouldn't think of it?

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It also explains why I haven't been hammered, since the partner probably doesn't want to put their name on me, as that would pretty much wrap it up on who's scum.

You know, you can always PM your partner this sort of thing; you don't need to coach them out in the open.

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Ah, touche,

it could be applied to me as well.

I guess only three people know the truth for certain; you, me, and

your partner.

Fail.

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By the way, if anyone is wondering why I am pointing all of this stuff out, its because, from my experience, Scum tend to reply on subtleties like "me, you, and your partner", whereas Town, knowing they have nothing to hide, are more likely to write "me, you, and the other Scum".

*Town that are gramatically correct will write "you, I, and the other Scum"

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Plus, you just inherently admitted that you're scum by accepting that it's between us three, acknowledging that it's you, me, and "the other scum," not "you, me, and the two other scum."

No, see, I'm very confidant that between "you", "me", and "the other Scum", both Scum are covered.

Why do you insist on writing everything from the perspective you are mod-confirmed? I'm thinking it's that you know everyone's alignment, and keep assuming everyone else does, too.

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No, see, I'm very confidant that between "you", "me", and "the other Scum", both Scum are covered.

By the way, if anyone is wondering why I am pointing all of this stuff out, its because, from my experience, Scum tend to reply on subtleties like "me, you, and your partner", whereas Town, knowing they have nothing to hide, are more likely to write "me, you, and the other Scum".

^ hypocrisy fail.

Where? In the first quote, I explain that you or I is Scum, and that there is exactly one 'other Scum' out there. (Or that we are hypothetically both Scum, but I don't think I'll bother even going there, unless someone wants me to). In the second quote, I explain that Scum never admits to the possibility (from the Town's view) that they are Scum.

Seeing as I admitted that, hypothetically, I could be Scum, I think you just proved my point. I included all the options, you didn't.

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You're relying on subtlety to implicate me, whereas if you were town, you'd have nothing to hide.

I'm very tired of this tit-for-tat though.

What subtletly? I flat-out said that both Scum are in {Sens, Zilla, [Other]}. If anyone has any other theories, I'd love to hear them. Assuming we all agree on that, I'm not implying anything. People are just as likely to take from my post that Scum are {Sens, [Other]} as {Zilla, [Other]}. You on the other hand, were saying the Scum are in {Zilla, Sens, [Sens' Partner]}, from which the only logical pairing is {Sens, [Sens' Partner]}.

I honestly do have nothing to hide. Which is why I've fucking let the Town tell me who to vote and when. I repeat, explain how I can possibly do that as Scum.

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not providing any reasons or analysis, we don't have to expect anything from you, nor do you have to make any associations

Misrep much?

[SensFan]

What have you contributed?

Well, let's see...

I'm getting more and more unnerved by your style, because it's such a good place for scum to be. You hammer an innocent today and steer us to an innocent tomorrow, and scum wins. At the very least, I think we should discuss whether you're scum.

Don't worry about me being Scum today. Trust me.

Who do you think are town? Scum? Too early?

BSG gets scumvibes from me.
Sens seems obvTown to me.

Sorry, I'm just not buying that Town would vote themselves in 5p LyLo.

@SensFan
We already knew from the previous game that you'd vote anyone who would get close to a lynch. You said that it's better to random lynch someone day 1. If you'd change that behaviour, it would be suspicious. So if you're scum, you have to put everyone close to a lynch, otherwise players would be suspicious of you. That's probably the reason why Zilla pointed it out that you weren't on the bandwagon with the most votes at a certain point.
If you're town, you'd put everyone close to be lynched as this is your playstyle at lover games, but if you're scum, you'd do the same as well as you'd be seen as scummy if you didn't. That's why you wouldn't be cleared by me.

This action really confuses me. I need to think this over.

Wrong. 109 was my first time playing like this, and my alignment was never revealed. Besides, you are missing the point. As Scum, I CANNOT POSSIBLY PLAY LIKE THAT. What the fuck would I do if someone asked me to hammer my buddy?

BSG/Zilla are Scum. kthxbai.

Who would vote me on no reasoning with such conviction? The only thing that makes sense is that he knew he would win by voting me, and the only way he knows that is if he was mafia.

You fucking voted yourself in 5p LyLo. I don't believe for a second you are anywhere near retarded enough to do that as Town.

You voted for someone for voting for herself in a 5p LyLo. I can't believe you'd be stupid enough to do that as town.

If you're Town, the game was over anyways. Or at least it could have easily been, whether or not I voted you. Me adding a vote does nothing.

Now explain why you're supposedly fucking retarded enough to vote yourself, as Town, in 5- LyLo.

Bullshit. You don't put yourself 2 votes away from a Scum win, with 2 Scum out there and 'figure' you'd 'be able to catch it before [you] got the third vote'. That's complete bullshit.

It sounds more like you're mad that you couldn't get me lynched.

That's absolutely ridiculous.

I can't see town possibly voting the way Sens did, it's pretty much the exact post that you wouldn't expect anyone to make. It's blatantly scummy, and I see no reason town would make a no-comment vote to L-1 in LyLo on a self-voter. If the vote itself isn't enough, the method just screams "Let's wrap this up, scum win in the bag!" It was just unlucky for him that I was on.

Before I need to make any justifications, tell me why the Fuck Town would self-vote in LyLo. That's impossibly retarded.

I'm pretty extremely sure I've hit scum with Sens because otherwise, the two scum would have hammered by now.

Given that everyone in this game is aware of the other possibility, why would you so obviously ignore it? Hoping people wouldn't think of it?

It also explains why I haven't been hammered, since the partner probably doesn't want to put their name on me, as that would pretty much wrap it up on who's scum.

You know, you can always PM your partner this sort of thing; you don't need to coach them out in the open.

By the way, if anyone is wondering why I am pointing all of this stuff out, its because, from my experience, Scum tend to reply on subtleties like "me, you, and your partner", whereas Town, knowing they have nothing to hide, are more likely to write "me, you, and the other Scum".

*Town that are gramatically correct will write "you, I, and the other Scum"

Plus, you just inherently admitted that you're scum by accepting that it's between us three, acknowledging that it's you, me, and "the other scum," not "you, me, and the two other scum."

No, see, I'm very confidant that between "you", "me", and "the other Scum", both Scum are covered.

Why do you insist on writing everything from the perspective you are mod-confirmed? I'm thinking it's that you know everyone's alignment, and keep assuming everyone else does, too.

No, see, I'm very confidant that between "you", "me", and "the other Scum", both Scum are covered.

By the way, if anyone is wondering why I am pointing all of this stuff out, its because, from my experience, Scum tend to reply on subtleties like "me, you, and your partner", whereas Town, knowing they have nothing to hide, are more likely to write "me, you, and the other Scum".

^ hypocrisy fail.

Where? In the first quote, I explain that you or I is Scum, and that there is exactly one 'other Scum' out there. (Or that we are hypothetically both Scum, but I don't think I'll bother even going there, unless someone wants me to). In the second quote, I explain that Scum never admits to the possibility (from the Town's view) that they are Scum.

Seeing as I admitted that, hypothetically, I could be Scum, I think you just proved my point. I included all the options, you didn't.

You're relying on subtlety to implicate me, whereas if you were town, you'd have nothing to hide.

I'm very tired of this tit-for-tat though.

What subtletly? I flat-out said that both Scum are in {Sens, Zilla, [Other]}. If anyone has any other theories, I'd love to hear them. Assuming we all agree on that, I'm not implying anything. People are just as likely to take from my post that Scum are {Sens, [Other]} as {Zilla, [Other]}. You on the other hand, were saying the Scum are in {Zilla, Sens, [Sens' Partner]}, from which the only logical pairing is {Sens, [Sens' Partner]}.

I honestly do have nothing to hide. Which is why I've fucking let the Town tell me who to vote and when. I repeat, explain how I can possibly do that as Scum.

[SensFan]

What case? You claim I haven't contributed, I call that a misrep, you ask me to show my contributions, and I quote 14 posts. What's your point?

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14 posts of nothing. You call that contributing? They're half-assed responses that don't make you accountable for hardly anything. The best I can pull out of that are your unfounded, unexplained opinions with no basis.

And jeez, other people, post! This is becoming a carbon copy of the first game.

You seriously need to learn to read between the lines.

In case anyone else is similarily incapable of basic comprehension:

Zilla - 90% Scum
BSG - 50% Scum
Tanarin - 35% Scum
Yorgi - 25% Scum
Sens - 0% Scum

[SensFan]

Anyway WHAT THE HEL ARE YOU DOING VOTING YOURSELF ZILLA?!

Thank you.

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Also, Sens. That argument about 'you, me and your partner' doesn't make sense at all. Zilla thinks that you're scum so why should she say it differently? DGB would be scum in all of her games if that argument of yours is true. Not to forget that you could make it up and use it for your own needs. And don't forget that what scum does in one game, doesn't make someone else scum for doing it in a different game.

I know all of that. Talk relevantly, or don't talk.

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Then why use it as argument if you know this?

Leaning you as scum at this moment.

Because, as I said, none of that is at all relevant.

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The fact that Zilla is putting my most likely partner as someone I put at -1 for most of the Day is just another reason she's Scum.

Yorgi, you'll see I already addressed that question.

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The fact that Zilla is putting my most likely partner as someone I put at -1 for most of the Day is just another reason she's Scum.

^ because being wrong is the same as being scum.

Basically, it's like Sens is saying "Hahaha, Tanarin's not my partner, you must be scum!"

No, its like your trying to guess who the Town is mostly likely to 'buy' as being my partner. If you're sincere in thinking that Tanarin is my partner, explain why I put him at Lynch-1 for so much time.

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vote: BSG

Ummm...yeah, if either of you and/or Zilla are Town, I'm going to be pissed.

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Because its clear that either Zilla or I are Scum. I'd wager there's less than 1% chance that the Scum haven't been able to co-ordinate a hammer yet, and that both of us are Town.

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Because its clear that either Zilla or I are Scum. I'd wager there's less than 1% chance that the Scum haven't been able to co-ordinate a hammer yet, and that both of us are Town.

That's rediculous. You could both be scum, but I doubt scum wouldn't have done it at this point. You know they can day talk and it's not that difficult to get talks and planning times out for something like that.

...you just proved my point. If at least one of {Zilla, Sens} is Scum, why would you ever vote someone else?

[SensFan]

How did you prove that?

[SensFan]

Before anyone else mentions the fucking Sens/Tan pairing, I want an explanation for me putting him at Lynch-1, and leaving him there for most of the day.

[SensFan]

considering he thinks BSG is my scum partner.

Yay for Freudian slips! ZillaTown (who is almost sure Sens is Scum) would have written:

considering he claims to think BSG and I are likely buddies.

[SensFan]

In an alternate world where you are Town, I'm almost confirmed Scum to you. Therefore, you wouldn't say that I "think BSG is [my] scumbuddy", since you would know that I know you are not Scum.

[SensFan]

Also, I would really like Sens to answer just HOW he would have been confirmed if D1 went any longer. As of now, I have not seen an answer to that question and I would appreciate one.

Pretty sure I've explained this before, but whatever.

I think I put everyone but 2 people at L-1, if memory serves. Once I put those 2 people at L-1, I obviously cannot be Scum.

[SensFan]

You are either Scum, dumb, or not thinking.

Why the FUCK would SensScum promise to vote anyone, anytime? No one has yet to answer that.

[SensFan]

^

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10087

For all you know, I was Scum. Besides, even if I had played 29384 games like this as Town, if I got a Scum role, I COULD NOT POSSIBLY PLAY LIKE THAT.

[SensFan]

^

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10087

For all you know, I was Scum.

I thought you were just saying it's impossible you could have been scum? Now you're saying you could have been? O_O.

I haven't tried to defend my play in that game in the slightest.

[SensFan]

You'd do it very carefully. It still seems like a rediculous "look at me, I'm pro-town!" move that doesn't actually benefit town. You just make a gamble that we don't hit your partner, which isn't too hard to do because we're hunting blind Day 1, and with you tied to not providing any reasons or analysis, we don't have to expect anything from you, nor do you have to make any associations because you say you'll vote anyone. Al in all, it's a perfect place for scum to hide provided they don't shoot themselves in the foot, and it's not a hard gamble to take given that you're not likely to be lynched yourself and your partner is only 1 of a possible 6 other targets.

post 175. It's also interesting to read the top of that page over again.

Yeah, I must be really dumb to hypothetically be Scum and promise the Town I will purposely lose the game if asked, which has about a 75% chance of happening.

[SensFan]

You mean a 16.66% chance (not counting yourself), or a 28.28% chance (counting yourself). Those are good odds.

No, I really mean quite a bit higher than that.

And even if your odds were right, please explain why I go into a game with a 16.66% chance of losing, no matter what.

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I didn't know how though and as I said, I just didn't see any town or scum benefit.

If she's Town, her 'trap'...uhhh...well, risked losing the game for nothing.
If she's Scum, her 'trap' has allowed her to form this attack on me, with several people saying they are/were leaning SensScum.

Oh, and nice catch about the 11 minute wait before she unvoted. Didn't she claim somewhere that she was 'constantly refreshing' the page to avoid being hammered? I guess she must have

really

slow internet...

[SensFan]

I'm not going to F5 a single page for three hours straight, you know.

Then you just lost your only fucking reason for fucking voting yourself in LyLo. Trust me, if I was Scum, you'd have been hammered.

[SensFan]

I'm assuming Town just won.

[SensFan]

Sens, though, can you tone it down a little? You don't have to drop f-bombs to get your point across.

Eh, I swear. Ts'not meant to offend anyone.

[SensFan]

Not me.