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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:34 pm

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VOTE: Flavor Leaf

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Post Post #103 (isolation #1) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:53 am

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Was gonna catch up, but today feels like a lazy day so ig not
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Post Post #200 (isolation #2) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:20 am

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In post 41, The Bulge wrote: although the fact we're informed of the mafia cop makes me think it's either a red herring or there's some other more complex role interaction
It was labelled as a complex game
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Post Post #201 (isolation #3) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:22 am

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In post 60, Flavor Leaf wrote: Mafia could have a Traitor this game to warrant the Cop. I can’t really think of any other reason the Cop knowledge would be there.
It doesn't really matter at this point in the game
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Post Post #202 (isolation #4) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:24 am

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In post 101, marcistar wrote: Highkey dont like the speed of gammas wagon

BUT also i think gammas scum so likeee

Anyways hu tao looks the worst on gamma wagon #imsogood
This reads incredibly awkward
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Post Post #203 (isolation #5) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:24 am

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In post 109, Flavor Leaf wrote: the answer to that question was simple:

i'm not a miller here, which is clear from the beginning, even if you have to say only in hindsight, which is fine. it's early game, it was a great source to get people to react on it from.

answering that question then, which I did later just not directly to you, would have just ended it there.
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Post Post #204 (isolation #6) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:25 am

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I'm actually a Informed Macho Cop-Enabler Miller and I'm informed that the Mafia know that my role exists.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #7) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:27 am

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In post 121, Flavor Leaf wrote: ah damn, are Marci and Gamma scum together? Could just be Marci white knight.

gonna avoid that thought for now because it's just paranoia, but i got big pings from that marci. looks like a performance, but i can see them posting like that as town.

And im kinda okay letting others solve for Marci.
I've gotten the same pings from Marci but I think it's isolated from Gamma, I don't see a pairing per se
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Post Post #206 (isolation #8) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:27 am

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Also it's weak pings, just feels awkward as I said earlier
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Post Post #207 (isolation #9) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:28 am

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In post 134, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Hu Tao
jjh027
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Unabombah (free seat for them here for now)
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Gamma Emerald


The Bulge
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JacksonVirgo


Neutral but slight under the nulls^
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Town
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Lean Town
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Light Town
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I gave you a smooch and you have the balls to not conf-town me????
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Post Post #208 (isolation #10) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:29 am

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In post 142, marcistar wrote: honestly bulge and jacksonvirgo are both people who i dont even remember what they've said
Wow congrats, it's like the game just started or something
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Post Post #209 (isolation #11) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:29 am

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In post 153, Flavor Leaf wrote: Yeah, it’s Drew and Jackson
Yeah I agree
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Post Post #211 (isolation #12) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:32 am

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In post 196, UnaBombaH wrote: Flavor Leaf (1) - I'd honestly consider giving up one of my three Genie-wishes for having the ability to 100% accurately read this player. Just so I could either death-tunnel or townblock him every time. I think I am rather good at sorting anyone in end game though, and scum!Boon might either underestimate me, or keep me around for too long just for their own entertainment..
This feels fake
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Post Post #213 (isolation #13) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 4:09 am

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That sounds an awful lot like it’s not my problem. Your expectations are not what I have to live up to
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Post Post #228 (isolation #14) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:54 am

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In post 226, The Bulge wrote:
In post 214, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 204, JacksonVirgo wrote: I'm actually a Informed Macho Cop-Enabler Miller and I'm informed that the Mafia know that my role exists.
Found the traitor
i actually dont hate this theory
It was a reference of my favourite setup design I’ve made yet
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Post Post #229 (isolation #15) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:54 am

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In post 225, The Bulge wrote: jackson did a scum catchup
Nah just not really feeling committed yet
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Post Post #233 (isolation #16) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:36 am

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In post 230, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 205, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 121, Flavor Leaf wrote: ah damn, are Marci and Gamma scum together? Could just be Marci white knight.

gonna avoid that thought for now because it's just paranoia, but i got big pings from that marci. looks like a performance, but i can see them posting like that as town.

And im kinda okay letting others solve for Marci.
I've gotten the same pings from Marci but I think it's isolated from Gamma, I don't see a pairing per se
Could you explain more? This goes for FL as well since I’m not sure what is entirely meant by the whiteknight part.
A lot of what Marci's early posts are, especially those surrounding you feel fake and/or exaggerated beyond a playful way, and it feels rather forced and like it's something they are doing for the sake of doing it rather than it coming out freely as people spoke, you're the focal point of all of that as you're the person Marci's fake-sounding posts have mostly been centered around so I understand where FL sees the WK/Pairing but I disagree that it means anything I just think they saw you as a person to be focused around (with the birthday thing) and expanded upon that. I can give examples about what posts I feel are giving me these feelings specifically but not immediately as I'm about to make breakfast. I was leaning into OMGUS / Confirmation bias a small bit with how they reacted to me because I felt that was really dismissive but Bulge snapped me out of that thinking so maybe I just had a really shit opener lmao
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Post Post #234 (isolation #17) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:40 am

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In post 232, Gamma Emerald wrote:
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I’d like a response from you soon.
Like, this is more me asking you to not say stuff like this as I want to enjoy the game and it feels you aren't valuing my time or trusting that I'll answer things (considering you posted that right after you asked) I don't want to feel forced to reply to you immediately as I have my own life. Saying this now because I don't want this to come up when I'm not in a good state of mind.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #18) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:48 am

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You'd like that, but the main character is actually Drew for having such impeccable music taste
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Post Post #239 (isolation #19) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:49 am

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In post 238, marcistar wrote:
In post 236, JacksonVirgo wrote: You'd like that, but the main character is actually Drew for having such impeccable music taste
My kpop is s tier ill have you know
Kpop and metal are my two gotos. What's your fave group rn
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Post Post #240 (isolation #20) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:50 am

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I'll judge if you have as good taste as Drew
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Post Post #242 (isolation #21) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:57 am

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In post 241, marcistar wrote: Lapillus or le sserafim or ive

Or maybe enhyphen or new jeans or everglow or weki meki

OR UH
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Ooo haven't heard anything from Everglow in a while might look back into them. Le sserafim is so good, also is ive/enhyphen but the others I haven't really heard much from personally.
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Post Post #243 (isolation #22) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:00 am

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Rare cases where my two seemingly opposing music tastes align brings us this gem of a song. Metal cover for Unforgiven by le sserafim but this is off topic so I'll just leave it with this.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #23) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:06 am

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Oh nah you're fine just being proactive with what I feel could be an issue for me
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Post Post #247 (isolation #24) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:10 am

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What's your thoughts on Una? I want to back over their open as their like pull-apart for the VC (I think it was that?) had their responses feel overly like fluffy and a lot of it was "could go either way" or "no comments" and then their part on FL feels overly pockety? It's not really pocketing though it just reads as thought they're appealing to something in particular
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Post Post #249 (isolation #25) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:15 am

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In post 248, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 247, JacksonVirgo wrote: What's your thoughts on Una? I want to back over their open as their like pull-apart for the VC (I think it was that?) had their responses feel overly like fluffy and a lot of it was "could go either way" or "no comments" and then their part on FL feels overly pockety? It's not really pocketing though it just reads as thought they're appealing to something in particular
Yeah I did think it was verbose, I don’t know how much of a tell that is though
That paired with that whole post seems like a lot of fluff but trying to portray as giving a lot of effort + appealing to FL's ego (which is what I think I'm reading from that but I'm still a bit fuzzy)
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Post Post #250 (isolation #26) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:16 am

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I gotta read back though as that's just a single post
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Post Post #258 (isolation #27) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:04 am

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In post 256, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 250, JacksonVirgo wrote: I gotta read back though as that's just a single post
I have a very grounded reasoning for those light blue colored posts.
I like to bold and/or color things from my posts anyway, but whenever I use votecounts or make a full lists of reads I will often write my own thoughts with colors.
Easier to find them later when anyone potentially returns to my reads. :]

To me it's all about being open with my reads and returning to them later for evaluation when we have flips/results to compare them to.
And sometimes just forcing myself to write something/anything about as many players as possible helps me process my thoughts at the same time.
Plus it very often garners attention and talk from others - positive or negative - and at the very least fuels conversation.

And no, this is not a LAMIST thing since whenever I'd play scum, I would do the same thing.
It's just a me-thing and totally NAI by itself.
I say this in the most respectful way I can, but self-meta is stupid and I'm going to have to throw that (the last two sentences) out of the window. However, I will take what you said otherwise to mind when (or let's be real, if) I go back through your posts but it definitely sparked conversation from me so ig you did a great job lmao
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Post Post #262 (isolation #28) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:11 am

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In post 260, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m pro self meta as a tactic.
It's dumb of anybody to use someones self-meta as reasoning, and therefore it's dumb to use it as an argument. Self-meta falls apart in three major ways, the first is the fact you need to be painfully self-aware of every nook and cranny of your gameplay, which for the most part (or even experienced players) are nowhere even close to being able to really know yourself from that objective point of view. You have a different perspective at viewing yourself than every other person on this planet. Secondly, self-meta can be used to cherry pick by the person making the arguments. You don't know whether or not what they're saying is accurate and if they bring their receipts you have no way to verify whether or not that's truly AI/NAI as they say it is unless you already know how they play and in which case why are you using self-meta. The third is the common reception of self-meta from my own experience is that it's either blindly trusted (rare) or disregarded/ignored. So it's pointless to even say to begin with, make actual arguments that people can flow with in the game and not say useless shit. Self-meta is almost as useless as somebody saying how townie they are.
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Post Post #265 (isolation #29) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:13 am

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In post 261, UnaBombaH wrote: I mean, I agree that self meta is usually stupid. But in this very specific case it is also a thing that you'd be able to verify/debunk if you really felt the need to.
You say this as if people will ever actually try and do this. The amount of times people say this compared to the amount of people that actually verify... bruh. I think I recall only one instance of somebody actually meta-diving that wasn't referring to a specific older game they remember etc. And that was off-site
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Post Post #266 (isolation #30) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:13 am

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In post 264, Flavor Leaf wrote: You left out the part where you say it with charisma, and people 2 day phases later forget you’re the one that said it
Remember where I said it's used to cherry pick and manipulate. That falls into that bin
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Post Post #270 (isolation #31) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:15 am

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I know lol
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Post Post #271 (isolation #32) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:16 am

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In post 263, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 260, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m pro self meta as a tactic.
You are also pro "let's make a wacky claim as either alignment and then just enjoy the shitstorm", right? :roll:

I'm off to bed, but looking forward to drinking my monday morning coffee with a side of juicy and spicy Mafiascum..
Brother that's me as well. Love that for us, but for me it's usually for a very good reason and it's just for chaos.
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Post Post #272 (isolation #33) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:16 am

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In post 271, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 263, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 260, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m pro self meta as a tactic.
You are also pro "let's make a wacky claim as either alignment and then just enjoy the shitstorm", right? :roll:

I'm off to bed, but looking forward to drinking my monday morning coffee with a side of juicy and spicy Mafiascum..
Brother that's me as well. Love that for us, but for me it's usually for a very good reason and it's not just for chaos.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #34) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:54 am

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Post Post #280 (isolation #35) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:03 pm

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Mod broke the chain,

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Post Post #350 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:44 am

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In post 282, Doctor Drew wrote: Been skimming the game when I can at work, and I am sorry Flavor......but your friend Una is not looking too good.
Why are you apprehensive about saying this?
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Post Post #361 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:11 am

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In post 359, UnaBombaH wrote: @Jackson - if you'd humor me for a moment - if you were told that there's one scum in Drew/Hu Tao guaranteed, which would you lean on being scum based on this early game?
I think Hu Tao is actually a difficult person for me to read as I always end up TRing them (small sample size) but I would say Drew here nonetheless. Not sure why you're asking this, nor why you're asking me but there you go.
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Post Post #379 (isolation #38) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:20 am

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In post 378, Gamma Emerald wrote: I’m actually trying to grow mine out a little more than I normally do
How long is yours typically? I think mine hit the longest it's gonna get lmao
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Post Post #380 (isolation #39) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:33 am

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In post 368, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 361, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 359, UnaBombaH wrote: @Jackson - if you'd humor me for a moment - if you were told that there's one scum in Drew/Hu Tao guaranteed, which would you lean on being scum based on this early game?
I think Hu Tao is actually a difficult person for me to read as I always end up TRing them (small sample size) but I would say Drew here nonetheless. Not sure why you're asking this, nor why you're asking me but there you go.
i got you. Hu Tao is town here.

I get pinged so hard at times when Hu tao is scum.
In post 369, Flavor Leaf wrote: Hu Tao pulled a heist in a recent game, and claimed a guilty on Nono who had a guilty on them before Nono claimed it, and we misfaded Nono. I even spent the day before that saying Hu Tao was obv scum, and still believed it.

They a dangerous scum player but they have a tone difference that peaks out when they're scum.
I mean just based on that timing alone Nono was in a bit of a shitty position lmfao
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Post Post #384 (isolation #40) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:48 am

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In post 381, marcistar wrote: SHE HAD TO REFILL HER BOWL OF BLEACH 5-7 TIMES
Damn, giving my ex a run for her money. How much hair do you got?
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Post Post #385 (isolation #41) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:51 am

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Eh I guess I should probably start trying this game
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Post Post #387 (isolation #42) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:08 pm

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In post 50, UnaBombaH wrote: I feel like you saw an easy avenue and you took it. :]
It's either very surface level townplay, which is obviously all fine and dandy this early on D1...or it's scum trying to make at least a somewhat justified serious vote.
With the added benefit of White knighting (I think that might be the right game-term?) and potentially slightly pocketing Boon at the same time.
In post 52, UnaBombaH wrote: Like if it's 50/50 scum trying to play or town trying to do something reasonable, I just lean scum this time.
Hence, guts.

..and in case anyone is wondering - no I did not miss the irony there.
I was making a very similar vote on Hu Tao, with a very flimsy reasoning as well. :lol:
The first quote above feels a bit wishy washy in the way you're saying it, as you say what you want clear as day and mix in what you really feel with "could be town though" which just feels overly afraid to put your neck out but at the same time pushing what you're calling out. Feels kinda like Drew as I called out earlier as well. They also took two filled out posts to just label this as a gut-read, adding to the "fluff" that I was calling out earlier (well Gamma called it verbose, which is a much fancier term). Tbf the second isn't really "filled out" but the first definitely was for what they ultimately ended up calling a gut so I feel they're trying to throw as much down peoples throats to appear as doing work when they're really not. Here I was ISO diving and literally nothing in here except obsessing over FL and a few random accusations here and there.
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Post Post #393 (isolation #43) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:16 pm

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Una/Drew are you both wolves perchance
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Post Post #395 (isolation #44) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:18 pm

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I got no real way of verifying what you said is accurate so I'm just going to disregard that.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #45) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:22 pm

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I don't know what scum!anybody would or would not do.
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Post Post #400 (isolation #46) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:24 pm

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Unless that question was not relating to Drews meta
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Post Post #427 (isolation #47) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:16 pm

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In post 423, Doctor Drew wrote: I think I need to iso JV as well
Why?
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Post Post #430 (isolation #48) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:23 pm

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In post 428, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 427, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 423, Doctor Drew wrote: I think I need to iso JV as well
Why?
I was trying to just stream of consciousness post my reads and there was like nothing I say about you. So you deserve an iso to refresh my old man memory.

Why is that an issue to you?
Not an issue it just felt like that came out of nowhere so I wanted to know why you were needing to.
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Post Post #431 (isolation #49) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:24 pm

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That being said, my motivation should spark back up soon hopefully so look forward to that babes
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Post Post #433 (isolation #50) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:32 pm

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In post 432, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 430, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 428, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 427, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 423, Doctor Drew wrote: I think I need to iso JV as well
Why?
I was trying to just stream of consciousness post my reads and there was like nothing I say about you. So you deserve an iso to refresh my old man memory.

Why is that an issue to you?
Not an issue it just felt like that came out of nowhere so I wanted to know why you were needing to.
I think it is you do most of your posting when I am asleep, and trying to catch up first thing in the morning can be a fools game.
You're saying... it is an issue(?). I'm so confused right now
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Post Post #436 (isolation #51) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:55 pm

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I know why, that wasn't what I was confused about but it does not matter this conversation is giving me brain rot as I'm way too tired for this lol. Be back later
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Post Post #456 (isolation #52) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:31 pm

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In post 450, Doctor Drew wrote: You know what didn't even have to do a full iso.....just looked at a post that was just quoted and the subsequent posts surrounding it

VOTE: Jackson
Yeah you’re going to have to actually explain when you SR someone
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Post Post #457 (isolation #53) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:32 pm

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Novel concept ik lmao
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Post Post #471 (isolation #54) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:31 am

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In post 458, The Bulge wrote: depends who you play with. a few years ago there were a lot more players who seemed to rely almost exclusively on meta deepdives
They scare me
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Post Post #558 (isolation #55) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:27 pm

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If you hurry I might be able to respond to it myself
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Post Post #560 (isolation #56) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:34 pm

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In post 559, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 393, JacksonVirgo wrote: Una/Drew are you both wolves perchance
This was the post I was referring to, not much but it was when he was kinda questioning una....and then made us buddies?

But I also didn't like Jackson getting so defensive when I said I would iso them so I kinda went into the it knowing I would probably drop a vote on them to see where it goes. And there reaction is something, since he just called me scum with little or no explanation.
You're like massively misunderstanding everything I am saying
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Post Post #561 (isolation #57) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:34 pm

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To the extent which is actually kinda hilarious and I love that
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Post Post #562 (isolation #58) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:36 pm

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I simply asked why you needed to ISO me as that super random, and then you went all kablooey and confused me with how you were responding to me and you label that as defensive. Also you scum-read me because you got upset of a joke?
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Post Post #565 (isolation #59) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:39 pm

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I was curious but I regret asking now because fuckin' jesus
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Post Post #566 (isolation #60) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:40 pm

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It wasn't a joke for you, I just saw you voting Una and I was just seeing you both were scummy for the same reasons as I called out. So I said that, how dare I omg this is blasphemous
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Post Post #569 (isolation #61) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:43 pm

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In post 567, jjh927 wrote: Do you / Did you scumread drew, JV
Not particularly, I think one of their posts are scummy as I said and referred to a few times but no I don't. I think them being like this probably means they're Town ngl
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In post 568, jjh927 wrote: I don't think your particular train of thought back there was as obvious as you think it is
Probably not but does it even matter?
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Post Post #572 (isolation #63) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:46 pm

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I see this is a huge waste of my time, reading into stuff that I think is just silly but if it's me not being clear then that's on me I guess.
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Post Post #573 (isolation #64) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:47 pm

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In post 571, jjh927 wrote: It matters to me in that now you've narrated it I can follow it back and it's got an extremely low chance of being faked

And in the context of this you've been a bit harsh on drew
Oh, if that's the case and I really have been bad at making myself clear then I'm sorry Drew.
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Post Post #575 (isolation #65) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:53 pm

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If anybody has questions I'll be lurking for like an hour before I sleep
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Post Post #576 (isolation #66) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:54 pm

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Also I recall someone like half claiming a PR? Whoever that was, that was stupid
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Post Post #579 (isolation #67) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:03 pm

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Ima look back over that then to see if I can read intent behind it
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It doesn't seem like it was pressured out, which is what I would believe a wolf would do with that. Feels reminiscent with the lower-skilled players in my discord mafia server that claim out of pride / lack of like real depth of thinking / not looking too far in the future. Early mass-claims were an issue there sadly
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Post Post #581 (isolation #69) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:08 pm

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Which opposes my social read on them so I might ISO dive them and rebase myself
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Post Post #583 (isolation #70) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:12 pm

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In post 582, jjh927 wrote: I don't think you need to

Someone who says they will be confirmed by role in the future may as well be confirmed
Oh did they say they're going to be conf-town? I thought they were just referring to being confirmed a particular PR
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Post Post #585 (isolation #71) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:19 pm

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In post 584, Doctor Drew wrote: I think I might still want to send you.......To The Hellfire though
Oh no... I must be Cursed to Die ;)
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Post Post #599 (isolation #72) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:25 pm

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I'm gonna do what's called a pro-gamer move and claim my role... I'm sorry guys I feel it's necessary... I'll put it in spoilers though for the suspense though but I'm a

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Post Post #604 (isolation #73) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:47 pm

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In post 600, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 599, JacksonVirgo wrote: I'm gonna do what's called a pro-gamer move and claim my role... I'm sorry guys I feel it's necessary... I'll put it in spoilers though for the suspense though but I'm a

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Is that 1 shot?
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Post Post #701 (isolation #74) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:01 am

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Catching up soonish, be excited lovelies for the biggest and best scum-hunting Australia has to offer.
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Post Post #707 (isolation #75) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:07 am

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It shouldn't "seem" like filler
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Post Post #708 (isolation #76) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:07 am

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It's either filler or it's not
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Post Post #709 (isolation #77) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:07 am

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Have some conviction!!
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Post Post #725 (isolation #78) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:23 am

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I seem like a serious player? Lol have we even played together?
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Post Post #726 (isolation #79) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:23 am

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You use "seem" a lot
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Post Post #727 (isolation #80) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:23 am

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I'm serious when I want to be, but not when I don't.
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Post Post #733 (isolation #81) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:25 am

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In post 723, marcistar wrote: Okay but
1) when i look in the mirror i get distracted by how pretty i am
2) but i know im town so like

And its scum indicitive because why even post at all. Jackson seems like a serious player so why post useless fillers when you can just wait to post something meaningful? Its making it seem like theyre more engaged in the game than they actually are.
Like duh!! Cant believe im THIS good omg!!

Im a troll i do it all the yime as either alignment
Actually this feels worth it to delve deeper on. What makes me seem to be like a serious player? What is your basis on this read? And why, if I am a serious player, is this scummy? Would that not make it NAI?
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Post Post #735 (isolation #82) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:25 am

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I was just in pedit hell
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Post Post #738 (isolation #83) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:27 am

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In post 728, marcistar wrote: I think if we have not very often but you seem very grr serious and scary! So therefore since youre lackluster you must be scum!!
I actually don't believe you think I seem serious and scary at all
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Post Post #739 (isolation #84) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:28 am

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In post 737, Dannflor wrote: jackson do you feel like engaging with marci about her read on you is the best use of your time
Why wouldn't it be?
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Post Post #749 (isolation #85) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:36 am

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In post 743, Dannflor wrote:
In post 739, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 737, Dannflor wrote: jackson do you feel like engaging with marci about her read on you is the best use of your time
Why wouldn't it be?
1. we're not eliminating marci today
2. she's probably town
3. it's not like marci is about to lead an elimination on you

i just don't feel like sorting marci is an urgent thing that needs to happen today and i'd be more interested in hearing your thoughts on other slots
1. That doesn't mean I can't try and understand her intents better to read her later.
2. This is silly
3. I don't care about an elim on me, I'm trying to understand her perspective to see if it's fake.

I respect and understand what you're saying but I'm gonna have to tell you to let me do my own thing. If I feel something is worth asking, I'll ask them. I feel locking conversation away from a slot this early is generally a bad idea. I'm gonna have time to have you hear my thoughts on other slots, it's not like I'm focusing all my attention on Marci for the rest of the day.
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It just happens to be regarding her pushing me
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Post Post #752 (isolation #87) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:37 am

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In post 745, UnaBombaH wrote: Jackson so far just seems like a wet bar of soap. Can't get any hold of them. :lol:
They call my posts fluff and worthless self-meta (either/or/both), they like to say "why not" as a reaction to things while simultaneously asking "why" from others rather consistently..

Is my gut feel wrong here?
Honestly feels like that sums up their whole game so far, more or less.
Nah so what I felt you were doing isn't fluff for the sake of fluff but overly trying to portray you as doing a lot while doing very little. That's different to me
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Post Post #754 (isolation #88) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:39 am

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In post 745, UnaBombaH wrote: they like to say "why not" as a reaction to things while simultaneously asking "why" from others rather consistently..
I didn't realise I was doing this that much, I thought it was just that once? I do think obvious stuff are obvious which is why I responded to that last time, but what i think is obvious has proven to be not so I'll try and be more open.
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Post Post #757 (isolation #89) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:40 am

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In post 753, Dannflor wrote: meh

I was just hoping that if we all agreed marci was pretty much just town scum would be incentivized to just kill her tonight

but that's probably not happening this game with players like jjh or FL who are also probably town
I'd rather have scum kill like the really tough to read people than Marci lol
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Post Post #759 (isolation #90) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:45 am

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In post 758, Dannflor wrote: marci counts as someone tough to read for me personally
Like in what sense? I was referring to FL/Hu Tao personally as I always end up TRing them
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Post Post #760 (isolation #91) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:46 am

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That line of thinking though (regarding wanting to unan TR Marci) I believe is Townie. It's similarish to what one of my friends tries to do with me when we play lol cuz he can't read me
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Post Post #763 (isolation #92) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:50 am

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I'm starting to actually like Una I think
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Post Post #764 (isolation #93) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:50 am

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I'll explain what I'm thinking after I make myself a coffee
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Post Post #767 (isolation #94) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:53 am

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In post 765, Dannflor wrote: i will just say that i have seen town over and over again claim their roles prematurely when they get pushed just a little out of frustration or what have you

I, myself, claimed doctor like way to prematurely as town because i was being lightly suspected when i was a younger player

i think the specific circumstances of marci's claim are just much more likely to come from town on the balance of things

like the claim itself is nothing special but the timing of it feels unlikely as a scum play

but yes agreed this speculation isn't all that useful so I'll shut up about marci for now
Yeah, some Town don't really get the importance of hiding their claims until needed over the short-term "ha gotcha, I'm town bitch"
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Post Post #768 (isolation #95) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:01 am

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This isn't super in depth at all it's just trying to put in words the type of thoughts I've been having the past page or two has made me feel. I do still dislike their busywork to a pretty large degree but them calling me out for what they seemed I was calling them out for is a big thing for me. Like I personally felt what I was arguing was clear but that's been proven wrong multiple times so I'm willing to drop that belief for the moment but this is genuinely a good thing to call out imo. I don't think scum!una would do that(?) especially not with the "I wanna vote them and not give reasonings" I don't think that comes from scum unless they're super duper confident in their skills (which could be idk and idc). So I think I'm slowly turning around on them, I don't really wanna give them a third ISO dive so I'll see what I think of them going forward with this in mind.
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Post Post #769 (isolation #96) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:02 am

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Also my ADHD ass decided to just vibe instead of making coffee so Ima make it properly now
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Post Post #772 (isolation #97) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:11 am

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Yes yes laugh at my defects
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Fuck I still haven't made it, ok bye bye now
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Post Post #795 (isolation #99) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:38 pm

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Am I still on FL? Lmao love that for me
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Post Post #798 (isolation #100) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:44 pm

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ICBA to deal with all this BS GE
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Post Post #804 (isolation #101) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:59 pm

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In post 802, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 757, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 753, Dannflor wrote: meh

I was just hoping that if we all agreed marci was pretty much just town scum would be incentivized to just kill her tonight

but that's probably not happening this game with players like jjh or FL who are also probably town
I'd rather have scum kill like the really tough to read people than Marci lol
you think marci is easy to read?
Definitely more so than others
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Post Post #809 (isolation #102) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:09 pm

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Oh that's what you meant, lmfao oh no my coffee gave me away!!!
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Post Post #814 (isolation #103) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:25 pm

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In post 810, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 809, JacksonVirgo wrote: Oh that's what you meant, lmfao oh no my coffee gave me away!!!
It’s weird but it’s a thing

I don’t think that’s happening here right now, though. It’s not quite the food tell. food tell is when someone disappears for a minute and comes back with it. You stayed then went
I did the reverse therefore I've invented the reverse food-tell. It's actually a town-tell so I'm now conf town you are very welcome
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Post Post #821 (isolation #105) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:37 pm

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They definitely do not like you, I think it's genuine frustration at what you're doing rather than aggression/retaliation because you're scum-reading him. The genuine frustration isn't to say it's townie per se, I just don't know what to read into here or what you want thoughts on. I say that but looking at 503 I'd say is actually townie personally
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Townie in the sense there's actual base reasoning that isn't the "conventional" reasonings I feel scum have when pushing an OMGUS read.
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OMGUS-like read I should say
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Post Post #825 (isolation #108) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:41 pm

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I don't have meta on them
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Post Post #827 (isolation #109) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:42 pm

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Oh, not sure why you'd claim neighbours rn but I'll take it
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Post Post #829 (isolation #110) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:45 pm

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In post 828, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 827, JacksonVirgo wrote: Oh, not sure why you'd claim neighbours rn but I'll take it
Doesn't really affect anything tbh......wish there was day talk though.
Oh right, day talk doesn't exist (please accept this dumb-clear)
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Post Post #831 (isolation #111) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:49 pm

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Stahp, keep that to yourself
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Post Post #834 (isolation #112) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:56 pm

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In post 833, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 831, JacksonVirgo wrote: Stahp, keep that to yourself
Would you like to play a game?
Yes, yes I would
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Post Post #840 (isolation #113) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:00 pm

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In post 835, Roden wrote:
In post 829, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 828, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 827, JacksonVirgo wrote: Oh, not sure why you'd claim neighbours rn but I'll take it
Doesn't really affect anything tbh......wish there was day talk though.
Oh right, day talk doesn't exist (please accept this dumb-clear)
Where does it say this game doesn't have day talk?
Idk but it said it when we signed the fuck up, lmao
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Post Post #844 (isolation #114) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:02 pm

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In post 843, Flavor Leaf wrote: (I believe i commented on no day talk in sign up thread, so i do think it was in sign up for sure)
viewtopic.php?p=13931799#p13931799

It was
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Post Post #846 (isolation #115) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:03 pm

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Anyway, time to carry on.
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Post Post #847 (isolation #116) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:03 pm

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Eh, not sure how I feel about Roden saying this
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Post Post #881 (isolation #117) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:40 pm

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Am I Jack Jerry?
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Post Post #882 (isolation #118) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:41 pm

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In post 879, Gamma Emerald wrote: Is there a particular reason Roden shouldn't be locktowned atp? I think he genuinely made a mistake so in order to be scum he would have had to have like never checked the PT after pregame
I personally don't believe the dumb-slip
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Post Post #883 (isolation #119) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:42 pm

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Not saying they're wolf per se I just don't have the confidence that it's genuine
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Post Post #885 (isolation #120) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:43 pm

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In post 884, Flavor Leaf wrote: Well believe it bustersagitarrius
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Post Post #886 (isolation #121) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:43 pm

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Being called anything other than a virgo makes me wanna spew
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Post Post #887 (isolation #122) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:43 pm

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I don't believe in all that but goddamn it makes me feel things
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Post Post #888 (isolation #123) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:44 pm

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jjh have you solved the game yet?
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Post Post #890 (isolation #124) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:46 pm

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In post 889, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 879, Gamma Emerald wrote: Is there a particular reason Roden shouldn't be locktowned atp? I think he genuinely made a mistake so in order to be scum he would have had to have like never checked the PT after pregame
Meh.

Any decent player could pull that off.

Especially since everyone else seemed to know that there wasn't daytalk.

Maybe a push for saying they are town......but definitely not lock town.

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Post Post #975 (isolation #125) » Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:55 pm

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Full disclosure, I'm having to prioritise my life for the moment. I shouldn't be longer than 24 hours so I don't feel I need to V/LA but just for your awareness I'll catch up and do my best when I come back, if you quote me I can respond specifically if it isn't like super duper in depth but otherwise wait thanks for understanding.
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Post Post #976 (isolation #126) » Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:55 pm

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Oh god the pagetop too, I'm so goated
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Post Post #1066 (isolation #127) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:17 am

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In post 1055, Flavor Leaf wrote: Imma go VOTE: Bulge[/vore]
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Post Post #1068 (isolation #128) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:57 am

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In post 1067, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1066, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1055, Flavor Leaf wrote: Imma go VOTE: Bulge[/vore]
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Post Post #1072 (isolation #129) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:54 pm

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In post 1069, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: The Bulge
No one is interested in a Nono wagon so I’ll go here instead
I'm not opposed to Nono personally
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #130) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 9:12 am

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In post 1092, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 1068, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1067, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1066, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1055, Flavor Leaf wrote: Imma go VOTE: Bulge[/vore]
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Post Post #3449 (isolation #131) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:11 pm

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In post 3428, Firebringer wrote: i lowkey had a minor freakout when someone pointed out that jackson claimed. I had not read majority of day 1 at that point. U would think I would read my predecessor iso to see for claims before i claimed but im that lazy.
Did I?
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