Elvis, welcome! This was a pleasant surprise.
Wall-E wrote: Hypocritically denounced scumbuddy theorizing whilst engaging in it himself. This is less a scumtell in my book. It's like a half-scumtell. After all, I'm a huge hypocrite. Still, it adds to the pile.
Yay irony! And meta-hypocrisy! Still, I see OP's hypocrisy as a legitimate part of the case against him, so I'll look at Wall-E's hypocrisy as another matter relevent to the case on
him
. Moving on. Other parts of Wall-E's post: Calls OP out on saying he didn't have a case on Wall-E when he had. My question here was that Wall-E accpted OP's quote-and-vote as a case, but on reread he apparently didn't mind it. Hmmm. For now, fine, I suppose. The unvote and such itself: looks kinda . . . well, schitzo-y; how flavor-text appropriate. Still, as Elvis said, weird vote switch, especially as nothing came from Ani between the 'I wish my vote would hammer Animorpherv' and 'unvote, let's go back at the OP case, voe OP'. That's consistent with Wall-E's inconsistent behavior this game, at least. He's been all over the map, somethimes verging on uncharted territory. Then again, I sort of see where he might be coming from: Not expecting much of Ani, but giving him a chance at redemption before a hammer.
GnK is getting pretty strong with the denouncement of his play for the first 23 pages of this game. Really strong.
I don't totally disagree with EK's analysis of my earliest play, as I feel I only completely got into the game around the time I voted Wall-E, which is not to say I would consider myself to have 'totally not been scumhunting' (this might also have been due to having had to catch up with two or three pages of play twice in the early bits of the game, if I recall correctly). I was slow to vote and my contributions weren't as good as they got, so for an early scan I don't overall mind the minor accusation.
More stupid semantics. I'll say that in saying 'half the game' and later clarifying the halves to be pages 1-23 and pages 24-30, or wherever we're at, he did nothing wrong or contradictory enough to warrant comment. I could explain this, but it would be more semantics. The main point of the original statement was that there were two distinct parts of the game; in the first GnK's play was not as good, and the second, ongoing of which, in which his play was better.
Kmd: First an eyeroll post rhetorically asking GnK if we're supposed to ignore his play during the first 23 pages of play (not especially helpful) and then, after an admirably reasonable response post from GnK, Kmd just bashes him, providing little substance about his views of GnK as he did so. To be honest, I haven't had any relly strong feelings about Kmd thus far. Offhand, I would have said, 'hasn't done anything overtly scummy lately' and 'Oh yeah, for some reason Charter seems to think he's the SK'. But now I'm . . . meh, at least be useful, etc. Much of your latest posting hasn't been too useful, Kmd; I plan to keep an eye on you.
On that note:
charter wrote: It's almost the same thing as me saying I lied, he's admitting to playing scummily.
No, not really. He seems to be saying he's tried to play pro-town the whole game, and in retrospect feels that for much of the game he's failed to do so and has done scummy things. Lying is more a direct, concious decision to do something that's too often anti-town.
animorpherv1 wrote:So, I'm not allowed to express things in my own way?
Wow, thats bad.
I don't know to whom this response was directed, but that was a bad post. Seriously, Ani, convince us,
expressing it your own way, if you like
, that you're reading the game, playing seriously, trying to benefit the town, and scumhunting. That should include a brief case on a player you find scummy. By 'case', I mean some sort of minor analysis or explaination as to why you find that player scummy.
Nameless wrote:Ani posts with no contribution and Nameless watches Wall-E with interest. OP is still hypocritical and Nameless is disappointed, and also wishes OP would actually make the analysis of GK he supposedly wanted to make.
Plum does, too.
GnKoichi wrote:Ugh. I just read what "bussing" means. Well, crap.
People play this game pretty crazy.
Yeah, bussing. That's something to take into account, in my opinion, after the town successfully lynches scum (like, for example, serious scumpartner accusations). I, as town, lost my (intense, well-played by many) newbie game despite lynching the first scum Day 1 because his partner bussed him so thoroughly that day. It's a useful technique in other words, and something players should take into account. And yeah, I think you could quite possibly be bussing Ani, but I'm not going to think about that as an argument too seriously until one of you filps scum, if and when that happens. There's planty more potential bussing out there; much too much for speculating about every single vote being bussing to be worth it.
Of course people play this game crazy. That's part of what makes it such fun
.