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Both of your opening posts this day is scummy AF.

:(

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that's a weird kill and nk that hammer was fucking horrible VOTE: NK

this post makes me think Enchant is not the scum

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imo i think there's probably one scum one off, the venmar wagon built way too quickly and i dont' like how nk hammered before i could even start my case on umlaut.
sigh. from now on can we agree to announce intent to hammer when someone's at e-1?

this suggests there was one scum on the Venmar wagon D1 as it was building cuz I think Patch said this cuz they knew it. This implicates Gera, Bristep, and Enchant, but I think Bristep is the most likely scum in this situation. I doubt Enchant is scum here. Gera switched to me EOD so I think that makes them less likely to be scum here since I think it would've been better for scum!Gera to chill on the opposing wagon and allow either to get limmed

VC 1.13

Venmar

(4): Black, bristep123, Umlaut, T3

Greeting

(1): Not Known 15

Umlaut

(1): Greeting

Black

(1): Venmar

Not Known 15

(1): Invisibility

Not Voting

(3): patchwork, Malakittens, geraintm

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to accidentally disassemble a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-09 12:20:00).

in this vc the only unknown on Venmar's wagon is Bristep. This is by no means conclusive since other people moved their on and off the wagon but it definitely makes me raise an eyebrow (which I can't actually do) if Patch was letting something slip when they said the Venmar wagon built too quickly. Bristep was also the only unknown on the Venmar EOD wagon D1.

VOTE: Bristep

this theory doesn't account for the possibility of scum!Venmar but like, I don't think that's the case here? I'll definitely have to reevaluate Venmar

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Both of your opening posts this day is scummy AF.

but good job on whoever killed patch
thats not someone i would have pegged for scum bc i was townreading up until he went a bit inactive

You coming out strong now your buddy is dead? Got to change tactic perhaps?

why do you say this

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UNVOTE: well then!

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Also am I crazy to assume that the natural assumption if patch says “one on one off” with the Venmar wagon is that it wouldn’t
be the case because SCUM LIE?

not really like scum lie but also they have to fake a natural progression of thoughts. I thought the latter case was more likely since "one on one off" happens a lot and I thought they were trying to make what they thought were safe statements since they seem like they haven't been very confident this game. Now I dunno

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fair fair

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I still don’t like this, taking the stance that patch was telling the truth without really questioning it given they were scum

you say that like I said Patch's words were gospel lol. Maybe I explained my thought process for why I thought they were telling the truth poorly in my post but I had reasons!

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I think if Enchant was town, Patch would've likely focused on trying to elim them harder but honestly it looks like Patch shaded Enchant pretty hard after both hammers but after the first hammer, didn't really push Enchant much and left the wagon fairly early.

fair but people still talked about Enchant relatively little so I still feel okay with considering him town. Patchwork might've thought Enchant was ez lim and then he wasn't and they couldn't figure out anything to say about him. Patch seemed to have difficulty saying stuff about other players that did more like, stuff, so I dunno how much Patch saying less about Enchant invalidates the TR

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I didn’t say you took it as gospel, I said you didn’t really question it, the ‘thought process’ could absolutely be read as lip service that gives the impression that you gave it careful consideration. It still pings my radar, but I’ve yet to have a proper study of your iso yet.

I do question it in my post

I think Patch said this cuz they knew it.

but I did word it terribly. Keep us posted on your study of my iso lol

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I think if Enchant was town, Patch would've likely focused on trying to elim them harder but honestly it looks like Patch shaded Enchant pretty hard after both hammers but after the first hammer, didn't really push Enchant much and left the wagon fairly early.

fair but people still talked about Enchant relatively little so I still feel okay with considering him town. Patchwork might've thought Enchant was ez lim and then he wasn't and they couldn't figure out anything to say about him. Patch seemed to have difficulty saying stuff about other players that did more like, stuff, so I dunno how much Patch saying less about Enchant invalidates the TR

This post doesn't make sense to me tbh. Enchant's slot is independently scummy for two consecutively terrible hammers that idk why we've given them a pass for. Patch tried to set-up an NK15/Enchant wagon two elims in a row, but never actually pushed or cased it. At best, this is NAI behaviour because Patch had trouble casing or talking about many players and Enchant is still scum independently, at worst, it's scummy behaviour because it looks like Patch distancing from !scumEnchant.

ngl I don't see how Enchant's hammers are scummy and not just silliness, especially when they said what they were doing lol but have you given a more complete explanation for why they're scummy? Cuz I don't think we can glean so much from them. Also it looks to me like Patch was trying to look like they were taking the initiative on the obvious lim which I think is more likely to be if Enchant is town and not like, superbussing

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^^ true

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The 1st hammer was done by NK15 and it got them dogpiled on start of D2 there is no way you people are asking me to explain why that hammer blew ass

I gues

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we ran out of things to say! Or something

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i just feel like the games gonna end within {gera/venmar/invis}

what do you think of Venmar and me

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well I've already said why I think Enchant is town and I think you're more likely town than Gera. Since nothing else seems to be happening I declare intent to hammer Gera I guess

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actually Gera's already been asked to claim and didn't so whatever VOTE: Gera

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is there anything to discuss or do we just get on with our lives

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yeah I don't either LOL
VOTE: no lim

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gg everyone. Cool game

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y'know the NK might actually implicate Mala here. I've expressed that Enchant is town and Venmar is townie but I haven't expressed a strong read on Mala. Enchant and Venmar dislike each other already. I was the biggest liability

I was right LOL