Mini Normal 2299 | Postgame [Village win]

Doctor Drew · Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:08 pm

In post 5, Alianna wrote: Good morning, beautiful village of death and darkness.

VOTE: Alianna

Why don't you get used to the death

Doctor Drew · Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:11 pm

In post 8, Alianna wrote: VOTE: Doctor Drew

MURDERER!

I am bad motherfucker

Doctor Drew · Post Post #28 (isolation #2) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:57 am

DEB better get his ass in here pronto.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #31 (isolation #3) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:12 am

In post 30, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 28, Doctor Drew wrote: DEB better get his ass in here pronto.
VOTE: Doctor Drew

Seems like an overreaction. But maybe this was a joke

Oh no I am serious, I always beg for my scum buddy early on in RVS.

I also never joke around in a game of mafia, always on the straight and narrow and absolutely no shit posting ever.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #41 (isolation #4) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:14 pm

In post 35, Deltabreedy wrote: Nothing. I want us out of RVS sharpish.

I'll encourage a wagon here to generate pressure and reads, or if another one forms then weee off I'll go there.

If one starts a wagon and no one joins it, does a wagon actually happen?

My daily bit of philosophy to chew on.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #44 (isolation #5) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:37 pm

Uh oh, does this make FL scum?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #46 (isolation #6) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:53 pm

In post 45, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 44, Doctor Drew wrote: Uh oh, does this make FL scum?
I’m just wearing my Beetlejuice The Musical joggers at work right now is all.

I don’t plan to be here, I’ll take the town cred still

Ok whew, dodged that bullet.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #48 (isolation #7) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:50 pm

In post 47, Theta Alpine wrote: sure flavor leaf can be villager

i do not exactly have any mechanics to theorycraft around so uh

i will be slightly lost during the rvs stage

FL town, DEB and I are the scum team.

Seems like a good start to help you out.

Also lol mech talk, amirite.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #50 (isolation #8) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:00 pm

In post 49, Theta Alpine wrote: only 2 wolves hmm

must be a 3rd party then as well

Oh, it is a mini normal....don't think there is 3p?

I wouldn't reveal the entire scum team, that would make it too easy.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #53 (isolation #9) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:11 pm

'The game should have at least one Mafia or Werewolf group (of at least two members). In mini games (at most 13 players), there must be exactly one such group, with no third parties'

Quoted from the wiki on normal games.

Pre Edit: Shut your mouth Alianna

Doctor Drew · Post Post #54 (isolation #10) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:12 pm

Roles can still be somewhat wackadoo, but nothing too crazy.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #56 (isolation #11) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:24 pm

In post 55, Theta Alpine wrote: wait can there even be traitors in a werewolf game

wiki page says they must be mafia aligned
which precludes them being werewolf

Mafia and wolf would be the same thing.

Why I am engaging all this mech speak??

Doctor Drew · Post Post #57 (isolation #12) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:25 pm

Also Theta, you should probably remove the L-word from your sig.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #65 (isolation #13) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:15 pm

In post 63, KittyTacky wrote: I don't think 2 scum makes sense without a traitor. Unless scum roles are jacked or town's roles are useless.

Really think it would be 3 scum, not including a traitor(but not sure on the balance of that)

Doctor Drew · Post Post #67 (isolation #14) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:19 pm

In post 60, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 41, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 35, Deltabreedy wrote: Nothing. I want us out of RVS sharpish.

I'll encourage a wagon here to generate pressure and reads, or if another one forms then weee off I'll go there.
If one starts a wagon and no one joins it, does a wagon actually happen?

My daily bit of philosophy to chew on.
Vanity.

Kitty, what did you mean by vanity here?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #80 (isolation #15) » Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:08 am

In post 76, redFF wrote: Nothing has pinged me yet

Delta does a bit, as Kitty said their vote and attempted wagon on Flippy seemed a bit for show.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #85 (isolation #16) » Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:00 am

In post 84, redFF wrote: VOTE: enchant in my experience enchant is usually scum

Wut

VOTE: red

Doctor Drew · Post Post #107 (isolation #17) » Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:50 am

In post 101, Flavor Leaf wrote: There’s plenty of actions being taken that one could move on from.

For instance, the impatient vs the patient.

Who’s irking to get out of RVS stage and why?

People still deciding who they want to hold hands with.

Will you hold my hand?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #111 (isolation #18) » Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:20 pm

In post 110, Theta Alpine wrote: see the thing is

i know i am not going to survive to the end of the game
so i do not need people to really town read me
i just need to not be scum read until i can figure out the game and get good reads on people before i do get flipped

Why do you keep saying you won't survive to the end of the game?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #115 (isolation #19) » Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:48 pm

Theta, I don't like this tone you have. Really feels like you are trying to guide things where you want them to go, and using ate to manipulate people into feeling bad for rvs.

So if you are going to complain about the game state, either do something to get it moving, or just step aside and let nature take it's course.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #120 (isolation #20) » Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:57 pm

In post 117, redFF wrote: VOTE: theta

Scummy posting

Ironically a scummy vote.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #133 (isolation #21) » Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:00 pm

VOTE: Hu Tao

I like them being counter wagons.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #152 (isolation #22) » Fri Apr 21, 2023 12:25 pm

Also my vote very much had some clothes on.

Is this all theater? Or is it too early to strap on my tin foil.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #157 (isolation #23) » Fri Apr 21, 2023 2:06 pm

In post 156, redFF wrote:
In post 154, Flavor Leaf wrote: RedFF and Enchant's ISO's are like exactly the same content wise. Not in a bad way, just short quips, clarification, setup spec meh.

Just funny.
short quips is all its gonna be so get used to it!

FL literally said he had no issue with it, you seem a bit defensive.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #159 (isolation #24) » Fri Apr 21, 2023 3:30 pm

In post 158, redFF wrote: Not defensive at all playa

Reading this while looking at your avatar did make me chuckle lol.

Who are you voting btw?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #161 (isolation #25) » Fri Apr 21, 2023 3:50 pm

In post 160, redFF wrote: Idk man check the VC

I am lazy

Doctor Drew · Post Post #162 (isolation #26) » Fri Apr 21, 2023 3:52 pm

In post 117, redFF wrote: VOTE: theta

Scummy posting

Ah here we are.

Did you really forget who you are voting?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #166 (isolation #27) » Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:32 pm

In post 165, Alianna wrote:
In post 160, redFF wrote: Idk man check the VC
You did.

Care to join a Red wagon?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #185 (isolation #28) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:13 pm

I think my Hu vote is taking up some space, time for the Red counter wagon to gain some steam.

VOTE: Red

Doctor Drew · Post Post #187 (isolation #29) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:04 pm

In post 186, Enchant wrote: But if you say your vote is for pressure, target knows it's for pressure, and can ignore pressure and will not feel to be pressured, therefore making pressure vote is not actually pressuring.

A Kitty wagon would be intriguing.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #189 (isolation #30) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:55 pm

In post 188, Theta Alpine wrote: i will also go ahead and say

pressure votes do not really work on me anyways
like i said i expect to get eliminated or night killed sooner or later so
you can get a claim for me if you put me up to e-1 but
it really is not going to change my behavior otherwise

Great point.

VOTE: Kitty

Doctor Drew · Post Post #192 (isolation #31) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:06 pm

In post 191, Theta Alpine wrote: and that is quite fair
i cannot really dispute that i am sus

i can just look to see what my wagon stirs up to see if i can catch any especially scummy vibes

Vote Kitty

Doctor Drew · Post Post #230 (isolation #32) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:03 pm

In post 192, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 191, Theta Alpine wrote: and that is quite fair
i cannot really dispute that i am sus

i can just look to see what my wagon stirs up to see if i can catch any especially scummy vibes
Vote Kitty

Sorry that was an oopsie by me, meant to post that in our scum PT.

I kind of like the spiciness of a FL push.

Theta, go sacrifice yourself for our cause and lead that counter wagon opposite the Kitty wagon.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #231 (isolation #33) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:06 pm

In post 218, Deltabreedy wrote: So at 3 IRL days into Day 1, you were fine with RVS votes? Still defending it almost halfway into D1?

I'm pretty okay with a Theta lim D1 to be honest.

This game feels absurdly slow compared to my previous experience in newbie games - I can scarcely believe we're halfway through D1 and there seems to be a feeling that we're still in RVS.

Team Mafia is going on, once people start to get elim'ed in those games this game will probably pick up.

If you want to make things more exciting, may I propose hopping on the Kitty wagon? Or the brand new, and very spicy, FL wagon?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #234 (isolation #34) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:11 pm

I will say, I do feel like Aliana is town here.

Mew I feel like might not be town.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #239 (isolation #35) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:12 pm

In post 237, Enchant wrote: I have my opinion.

But i won't tell you.

In post 238, Flavor Leaf wrote:Same

So let's get going on the Kitty vs FL competing wagons so we can move to D2 and get some opinions.

FL, would be gangster if you actually voted yourself.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #246 (isolation #36) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:21 pm

In post 243, Flavor Leaf wrote: There was a time when I had self voted as town like 9 times, and never as scum.

Life is all about experiencing firsts

Doctor Drew · Post Post #247 (isolation #37) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:22 pm

In post 245, Flavor Leaf wrote: I did do it eventually as scum, don’t get me wrong, but yeah, that’s just a no no for me now on self voting

Ah damn, maybe seconds?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #248 (isolation #38) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:22 pm

In post 240, Enchant wrote: Do you have opinion?

I don't like cilantro, and like my coffee black

Doctor Drew · Post Post #251 (isolation #39) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:27 pm

In post 249, Alianna wrote:
In post 248, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 240, Enchant wrote: Do you have opinion?
I don't like cilantro, and like my coffee black
I like my coffee in bean form.

Espresso beans are the shit.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #252 (isolation #40) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:31 pm

In post 250, Alianna wrote: @Drew - how are you reading Theta right now?

Still don't love her take on how she thinks she will die before game end, and she comes off as a bit rigid and fake in tone.

I wouldn't fight against her elim, but I feel like we need to explore Kitty and Flavor a bit(yes, my push for a wagon on Flavor is not a joke).

Doctor Drew · Post Post #254 (isolation #41) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:36 pm

In post 253, Alianna wrote:
In post 252, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 250, Alianna wrote: @Drew - how are you reading Theta right now?
Still don't love her take on how she thinks she will die before game end, and she comes off as a bit rigid and fake in tone.

I wouldn't fight against her elim, but I feel like we need to explore Kitty and Flavor a bit(yes, my push for a wagon on Flavor is not a joke).
Not really feeling Kitty at the moment.
Why do you want a Flavor wagon? He's null for me, but I'd consider it.

I will keep my reasons a bit close to my chest for now.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #256 (isolation #42) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:40 pm

In post 255, Alianna wrote: Then I don't have a compelling reason to move my vote.

Fair enough, but giving my reasoning for it will compromise the goal.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #258 (isolation #43) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:51 pm

In post 257, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m either an investigative role, a 1-shot BP, or a VT.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #261 (isolation #44) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:23 pm

In post 259, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 103, Theta Alpine wrote: at least i am not lurking through rvs this game so far
i usually just did that if i remember correctly from back before my break

*snip*
@Alianna: I feel like this kind of thought process comes from a natural place, and while it could come from scum, I am more inclined to believe that it comes from town.

In post 260, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 184, KittyTacky wrote: VOTE: Theta Alpine pressure vote
Last time I did something similar to this I got a lot of flack for it, looks like that's what's also happening this game.

Really feels like you are saying things without actually saying anything here.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #263 (isolation #45) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:30 pm

In post 262, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 261, Doctor Drew wrote: Really feels like you are saying things without actually saying anything here.
Sure, I guess. Is there anything you want me to comment on specifically?

Thoughts on Kitty and FL?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #265 (isolation #46) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:39 pm

In post 264, Flavor Leaf wrote: Kitty vs Flavor’s kinda boring.

Nobody’s taking the bait anyways.

I’ll give my first take: there’s scum on the Theta wagon.

Kitty vs Flavor could have been so much more

So Red and Kitty is what you are saying is the scum?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #271 (isolation #47) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:51 pm

In post 266, Flavor Leaf wrote: More like Red/Delta

In post 268, Flavor Leaf wrote: I don’t think Theta’s been scummy at all personally

Theta pings me a bit, but like I said before about them being rigid and fake, that might just be who they are?

I probably am giving Delta a bit of a pass since I am not familiar with them at all, that and I have some noob vibes from them.

Was it just him coming after you?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #272 (isolation #48) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:52 pm

In post 269, Alianna wrote:
In post 259, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 103, Theta Alpine wrote: at least i am not lurking through rvs this game so far
i usually just did that if i remember correctly from back before my break

*snip*
@Alianna: I feel like this kind of thought process comes from a natural place, and while it could come from scum, I am more inclined to believe that it comes from town.
I don't see how that's towny. It's not even a read or a piece of analysis, it's just an observation about how their play this game differs from past games. Anyone can say something like that.

Agreed this all sorts of a head scratcher

Doctor Drew · Post Post #281 (isolation #49) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:20 pm

In post 273, Alianna wrote: Want to vote Mewtaph?

Yes, I actually really like this now VOTE: Mew

In post 274, Deltabreedy wrote:
In post 271, Doctor Drew wrote:
Theta pings me a bit, but like
I probably am giving Delta a bit of a pass since I am not familiar with them at all, that and I have some noob vibes from them.

Was it just him coming after you?
I don't like the open implication of noob vibes here. It kind of feels like it's something that could be used in days to come to discredit me and any arguments I make, which I find quite... off.

Would appreciate you recanting this statement tbh.

Ninja'd: I still think Theta is the one we should take off the board today tbh.

Don't be a noob then.

I kid.

I won't discredit any read if it seems to make a bit of sense, just feel like the scum read on you from FL is flavored(See what I did there? You know you love it) with a bit of short sighted goggles.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #287 (isolation #50) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:08 pm

In post 285, Flavor Leaf wrote: @DD - what gave you noob vibes about Delta? I didn’t get those vibes at all

Admittedly was skewed by his join date.

But, the 'hey let's play the game and not stay in RVS' thinking he seems to have screams noob to me as well. I feel someone new to the game of mafia would be thrown off by the shit posting and wants to keep it to the meat and potatoes.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #319 (isolation #51) » Mon Apr 24, 2023 1:11 pm

In post 316, Flavor Leaf wrote: I think it's just Theta's personality

From experience or just how you read them here?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #324 (isolation #52) » Mon Apr 24, 2023 6:09 pm

In post 323, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 309, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 260, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 184, KittyTacky wrote: VOTE: Theta Alpine pressure vote
Last time I did something similar to this I got a lot of flack for it, looks like that's what's also happening this game.
Why not vote them then?
I did it as town.

WTF?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #340 (isolation #53) » Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:50 pm

I kinda like having the elim between Mew, Delta, and Theta.

But what don't you like specifically about the Mew wagon, FL?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #346 (isolation #54) » Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:17 pm

In post 345, Flavor Leaf wrote: This game is on the verge of speeding up, scum are either content letting the game settle into position, or trying to push the boulder down the mountain without making a big scene.

This is kinda why I like the idea of the three headed wagon we kinda have right now. I feel while it doesn't necessarily take the power away from scum, it does provide more information one way or another. Or even if scum are ok with the current 3 heads.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #347 (isolation #55) » Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:19 pm

In post 341, Deltabreedy wrote: If I ask why I'm getting your vote today can I expect a reason or will it be a meme like most of the rest of the thread?

Says the person laying naked votes earlier.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #349 (isolation #56) » Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:14 pm

In post 348, Deltabreedy wrote: Really hung up on that, are we?

There is the meme response you so wanted.

But in all seriousness, I never really had an opinion on it all when it happened.....but striked me as odd that you got upset that you were presumably attacked for your naked vote, but now are upset for a vote that really wasn't that naked at all. Yet demand a 'srz bizness' explanation for it.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #351 (isolation #57) » Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:36 pm

In post 350, Enchant wrote: What's wrong with naked votes though?

You need to take me out to dinner before you get my naked vote.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #353 (isolation #58) » Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:44 pm

In post 352, Enchant wrote:
In post 351, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 350, Enchant wrote: What's wrong with naked votes though?
You need to take me out to dinner before you get my naked vote.
No

VOTE: Drew
VOTE: Drew
VOTE: Drew
VOTE: Drew
VOTE: Drew
VOTE: Drew

Well that's just plain rude

Doctor Drew · Post Post #355 (isolation #59) » Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:54 pm

In post 354, Enchant wrote: Rude is my second name.

Enchant Rude

Ravishing 'Enchant' Rude

My favorite wrestler from the 80s

Doctor Drew · Post Post #381 (isolation #60) » Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:03 pm

I think you made that up, never heard of the guy lol.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #382 (isolation #61) » Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:05 pm

In post 358, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 328, Deltabreedy wrote: What on earth is this sudden Mew wagon.

Can someone clear that up for me? All I really see is two players having a spat rather than anything that indicates one of them is pushing in bad faith.
Yeah it's def a moment.

In post 360, Mewtaph wrote: I don't like any of the current wagons. I think RedFF disappearing after copping a few votes is scummy so I will keep my vote there for now.

Does this clear it up for you a bit Kitty?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #385 (isolation #62) » Wed Apr 26, 2023 1:37 pm

With a little over two days to deadline, we really should start consolidating our votes.

I feel fairly strong about Mew, but if someone has a stronger feeling for another elim I am all ears.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #387 (isolation #63) » Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:20 pm

In post 386, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 382, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 358, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 328, Deltabreedy wrote: What on earth is this sudden Mew wagon.

Can someone clear that up for me? All I really see is two players having a spat rather than anything that indicates one of them is pushing in bad faith.
Yeah it's def a moment.

In post 360, Mewtaph wrote: I don't like any of the current wagons. I think RedFF disappearing after copping a few votes is scummy so I will keep my vote there for now.
Does this clear it up for you a bit Kitty?
Yeah it's just strange.

Ok

So sell me on Theta

Doctor Drew · Post Post #389 (isolation #64) » Wed Apr 26, 2023 5:48 pm

Straight cash homie

Doctor Drew · Post Post #406 (isolation #65) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:46 pm

In post 405, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 404, Theta Alpine wrote: i really do not see why mew is scum
i mean i will vote there if it gets down to the wire but
i would prefer delta instead

Delta not gonna go through. I’m voting them still but i think they’re lean town.

Go ahead and vote Mew, Theta. Join the dark side

And we have cupcakes.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #408 (isolation #66) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 2:22 pm

Blueberry, chocolate chip, hell even a banana cupcake with your name on it if you want to get a bit crazy.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #409 (isolation #67) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 2:23 pm

FL, I have brownies for you once you hop on board.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #414 (isolation #68) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:47 pm

In post 413, Flavor Leaf wrote: Hammer test me

Well would need two more votes on Mew for that.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #417 (isolation #69) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:14 pm

In post 415, Theta Alpine wrote: two more votes would be a hammer

one more vote would put them at e-1

Oh didn't see Enchant vote

Doctor Drew · Post Post #422 (isolation #70) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:56 pm

In post 421, Enchant wrote: UNVOTE:

Ugh, see what happened?

You even made Enchant unvote!

Doctor Drew · Post Post #426 (isolation #71) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 5:05 pm

In post 422, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 421, Enchant wrote: UNVOTE:
Ugh, see what happened?

You even made Enchant unvote!

In post 423, Enchant wrote: Claims are for weaklings, real deal hammers innocent childs and then replace out.

(THIS IS INTENTED AS JOKE)

Also for clarification, Enchant unvoted me....not Mew

Doctor Drew · Post Post #428 (isolation #72) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 5:08 pm

In post 427, Enchant wrote: I voted mew

Goddamit, how do I keep missing your vote haha

Doctor Drew · Post Post #430 (isolation #73) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:12 pm

Why lay off Mew, Enchant?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #475 (isolation #74) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:03 am

I did not target Bulge.

Also, I tend to believe that FL's intentions are righteous here.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #507 (isolation #75) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:06 pm

In post 505, Flavor Leaf wrote: Doctor Drew not contradicting the “Not a Tracker Claim” is also a little bit more, but I digress, that one’s a bit weaker conformation, but still some.

Enchant, there are a lot of steps for scum to point me out in particular if FL is scum(obviously unless you think we are buddies).

Also, would 3p be considered normal?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #508 (isolation #76) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:07 pm

Ok just checked, not normal in a mini.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #510 (isolation #77) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:10 pm

In post 509, Enchant wrote:
In post 507, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 505, Flavor Leaf wrote: Doctor Drew not contradicting the “Not a Tracker Claim” is also a little bit more, but I digress, that one’s a bit weaker conformation, but still some.
Enchant, there are a lot of steps for scum to point me out in particular if FL is scum(obviously unless you think we are buddies).

Also, would 3p be considered normal?
Btw i am JOAT too.

You are not a Doctor.

Well my username confirms you are lying /s

But ok then, we are definitely finding out a lot about what I am not lol.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #511 (isolation #78) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:14 pm

Also, I did make a boo boo saying FL was being righteous. Won't elaborate at this point.

I believe Enchant now and don't believe FL.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #514 (isolation #79) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:03 pm

In post 512, Alianna wrote:
In post 509, Enchant wrote:
In post 507, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 505, Flavor Leaf wrote: Doctor Drew not contradicting the “Not a Tracker Claim” is also a little bit more, but I digress, that one’s a bit weaker conformation, but still some.
Enchant, there are a lot of steps for scum to point me out in particular if FL is scum(obviously unless you think we are buddies).

Also, would 3p be considered normal?
Btw i am JOAT too.

You are not a Doctor.
Is this a joke or are you actually claiming to have found that Dr. Drew isn't a doctor?

I guess I should just officially change my name to Drew lol

In post 513, Alianna wrote:
In post 511, Doctor Drew wrote: Also, I did make a boo boo saying FL was being righteous. Won't elaborate at this point.

I believe Encha.nt now and don't believe FL.
I guess I won't ask why, but at the moment, I'm leaning the other way.

I actually have been flip flopping a bit myself, I kinda believe that FL found out I am not a tracker.....but would be incredible balls for Enchant to come and say that I am ALSO not a doctor(despite the username contradicting them lol)

Doctor Drew · Post Post #521 (isolation #80) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:28 pm

In post 519, Flavor Leaf wrote: FlippyNips/Kitty

Then Theta.

Delta gonna be a stink, but we all know he’s scum anyway

In post 520, Flavor Leaf wrote: Feel free to analyze elsewhere, the lurks might be a minute

I will give you this space to do what you are doing.

But do you wonder why I was so eager to back you up initially here?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #530 (isolation #81) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:18 pm

In post 526, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 468, Deltabreedy wrote: They didn't say the names, but if they are being honest and they are what they say they are - they must have the name of a scum player in their inbox.

It's categorically anti-town gameplay not to share the results, regardless of their alignment.
It's actually common to not reveal immediately innit. No harm in trying to bait out other scum on their lies. There are no daykills in Normals so you can't get sniped by a scum gayvig.

Man, I didn't want to spit out my beer laughing at this, but here we are lol.

In post 528, KittyTacky wrote: I actually think Delta is scummy for this.

VOTE: Delta

In post 529, Flavor Leaf wrote: Delta was obv hatcheting me immediately. They were doing damage control

I wanna hear more from Enchant.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #532 (isolation #82) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:19 pm

I don't like how Fl and Kitty are all buddy buddy here.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #535 (isolation #83) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:23 pm

In post 534, Alianna wrote: You're alive!
Yes, the serial killer killed you.

Ghost of Enchant, please save us from the the obvScum FL.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #539 (isolation #84) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:38 pm

In post 537, Enchant wrote:
In post 536, Alianna wrote: Ghost of Enchant, please repeat for the third time that the Doctor isn't a doctor so that I can stop losing my mind trying to figure out if your claim is actually serious. Or don't if you aren't.
But it's so funny why i should

In post 538, Enchant wrote: I sleep

I will tell my reasonings when i wake up

I hate you so much

Doctor Drew · Post Post #541 (isolation #85) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:45 pm

In post 540, Flavor Leaf wrote: Alright, Theta. Claim your stuff.

Flips probs saw Mech stuff and noped out or lurking.

Spoiler: He’s one of them.

If your case is based on Flips, then things are getting iffy

Doctor Drew · Post Post #544 (isolation #86) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:47 pm

In post 541, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 540, Flavor Leaf wrote: Alright, Theta. Claim your stuff.

Flips probs saw Mech stuff and noped out or lurking.

Spoiler: He’s one of them.
If your case is based on Flips, then things are getting iffy

Emperor Iffynips.....amirite

FL, you yourself said you cannot deny those eyes.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #548 (isolation #87) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:55 pm

In post 546, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 544, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 541, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 540, Flavor Leaf wrote: Alright, Theta. Claim your stuff.

Flips probs saw Mech stuff and noped out or lurking.

Spoiler: He’s one of them.
If your case is based on Flips, then things are getting iffy
Emperor Iffynips.....amirite

FL, you yourself said you cannot deny those eyes.

They’re dreamy.

FlippyNips and Dr Easy Bake are two of my besties IRL, in case you didn’t know.

I am jealous, love them fools.

But Flippy seems to be afk here, basing any argument off of them is sketch.

And I am still going back and forth on you and Enchant, definitely is a thing that both of you know what I am not.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #551 (isolation #88) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:18 pm

I am perfectly fine with nature taking it's course.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #553 (isolation #89) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:26 pm

FL, you still have no idea why I believed you, which is perfect.

And I didn't push a 1v1, just want things to work themselves out organically.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #556 (isolation #90) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:32 pm

In post 555, Flavor Leaf wrote: You have to admit, though.

This shit juicy.

Oh, I am picking up what you are putting down.

I love it spicy and juicy.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #557 (isolation #91) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:38 pm

In post 554, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 553, Doctor Drew wrote: FL, you still have no idea why I believed you, which is perfect.

And I didn't push a 1v1, just want things to work themselves out organically.

Do you think I have no idea, or that I don’t feel like bringing up for reasons?

Because I can assure you…it’s definitely a bit of both, but I’m not too worried about it, to be honest. You got your reasons.

Are you a Finder-Finder?

How would you know what reasons I may have?

I confirmed I am not a tracker as you said, how would you know anything more than that?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #560 (isolation #92) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:51 pm

In post 558, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 557, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 554, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 553, Doctor Drew wrote: FL, you still have no idea why I believed you, which is perfect.

And I didn't push a 1v1, just want things to work themselves out organically.

Do you think I have no idea, or that I don’t feel like bringing up for reasons?

Because I can assure you…it’s definitely a bit of both, but I’m not too worried about it, to be honest. You got your reasons.

Are you a Finder-Finder?
How would you know what reasons I may have?

I confirmed I am not a tracker as you said, how would you know anything more than that?
Master level intuition

Meh, you don't know.

I can assure you that.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #562 (isolation #93) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:57 pm

In post 561, Flavor Leaf wrote: Am I supposed to know?

No

Doctor Drew · Post Post #565 (isolation #94) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:06 pm

In post 564, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 563, Hu Tao wrote: I'm not even sure what's even happening right now. Is there a guilty or no? We are waiting on theta? If no guilty I'm planning on voting delta when this is over

Let’s act like there isn’t for now, and then when there is one, we can talk about stuff.

Delta’s a fine vote.

Agree a Delta vote is a-ok

Just need some more enchant.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #668 (isolation #95) » Wed May 03, 2023 11:58 am

In post 85, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 84, redFF wrote: VOTE: enchant in my experience enchant is usually scum
Wut

VOTE: red

Apologies to Red lol

I was on the sidelines a bit because I kinda was believing both FL and Enchant for a bit, then I was busy at work, and next thing you know the elim went through.

Tbf though, it is definitely in my box of tools to open wolf a bit and bring up 3p if I am 3p, but not sure if I could be that brazen and bring up traitor as the traitor.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #672 (isolation #96) » Wed May 03, 2023 12:56 pm

In post 671, Theta Alpine wrote: and honestly
i will admit i was definitely part of that whole interaction about traitors as well
and specifically with alianna also had a weird start interaction so uh

i was however one of the first people on enchant

Why are you defending yourself? Delta gave you a smidge of shade, but this doesn't make sense.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #676 (isolation #97) » Wed May 03, 2023 1:31 pm

In post 673, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 672, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 671, Theta Alpine wrote: and honestly
i will admit i was definitely part of that whole interaction about traitors as well
and specifically with alianna also had a weird start interaction so uh

i was however one of the first people on enchant
Why are you defending yourself? Delta gave you a smidge of shade, but this doesn't make sense.
*shrugs*

it is a thing that has been on my mind since i saw the association between you and alianna
honestly i need to just read the game again to just look for other possibilities because that is a dangerous hole for me to stay in

You seem so worried about how you will look if you keep pressing Aliana and myself.

Almost like you know this isn't the correct path.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #678 (isolation #98) » Wed May 03, 2023 1:52 pm

How about this.

VOTE: Aliana

Now you don't look so bad if you hop aboard the wagon.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #680 (isolation #99) » Wed May 03, 2023 2:16 pm

In post 679, redFF wrote: Hey. Im a jailkeeper. Figured id claim since the enabler died. Not sure how common a cross alignment enabler is. Im vanilla now obviously.

Huh, ok

Who did you jail N1?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #688 (isolation #100) » Wed May 03, 2023 2:44 pm

Red, are you mod confirmed that you cannot use your ability anymore?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #691 (isolation #101) » Wed May 03, 2023 3:36 pm

In post 689, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 688, Doctor Drew wrote: Red, are you mod confirmed that you cannot use your ability anymore?
i mean if it was not we would be in a bastard game
we are in fact in a normal

I would prefer them to answer the question, not you.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #694 (isolation #102) » Wed May 03, 2023 4:00 pm

In post 693, redFF wrote:
In post 688, Doctor Drew wrote: Red, are you mod confirmed that you cannot use your ability anymore?
Yes.

I jk delta n1

K

I can understand that play.

Unfortunately I believe that all PR's have to be enabled.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #697 (isolation #103) » Wed May 03, 2023 4:28 pm

In post 695, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 694, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 693, redFF wrote:
In post 688, Doctor Drew wrote: Red, are you mod confirmed that you cannot use your ability anymore?
Yes.

I jk delta n1
K

I can understand that play.

Unfortunately I believe that all PR's have to be enabled.
as in

there is no normal requirement for all prs to have an enabler
it is not even a requirement for the linked role for an enabler to exist

we do not know enough about the game to know if more enablers exist yet
so why say that

Let's call it a hunch

Doctor Drew · Post Post #703 (isolation #104) » Wed May 03, 2023 5:27 pm

In post 701, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 679, redFF wrote: Hey. Im a jailkeeper. Figured id claim since the enabler died. Not sure how common a cross alignment enabler is. Im vanilla now obviously.
I think you shouldn't have outed

Are you saying you don't believe that they are mod confirmed to not have their ability anymore?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #719 (isolation #105) » Thu May 04, 2023 9:13 am

I don't like this push on Delta, I also don't like how when I offered an Aliana wagon to Theta(you they kept saying they feel is a traitor) they just changed course.

I think the lim should be between Alianna and Theta

Doctor Drew · Post Post #727 (isolation #106) » Thu May 04, 2023 2:43 pm

I will say I can understand going after FL if you have never played with them before. He tends to be atypical in their play style can come of scummy if you are not used him.

I do think Delta was ready to attack Theta right out of the gate though, even when Theta did sorta kinda post some reads.

That is the most damning part to me if it is scumDelta, but I still am not buying the progression from saying Aliana/Drew are scum, and then saying Delta is scummier.

And again, even though I offered to get the Aliana wagon going. They just ignored me.

Also, as an aside, I don't know why I always scum read all the females whose name starts with A. I don't know what this says about me haha.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #753 (isolation #107) » Fri May 05, 2023 2:55 pm

Kitty ftw.

Ok, can we work on this Aliana wagon now?

I mean, she is even trying to take page tops from the mod.

Gotta be policy lim at the very least.

Doctor Drew · Sat May 06, 2023 10:28 am

I actually regret responding and saying I wasn't the doctor, knowing now that they were scum, I kinda did what they wanted.

Doctor Drew · Sat May 06, 2023 10:42 am

Also, worked kicked my ass today. But hope to pop in later to say a few things.

Have been lightly reading the goings on here.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #834 (isolation #110) » Sat May 06, 2023 2:39 pm

In post 833, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 826, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 823, Hu Tao wrote: Funny how I was a top Town read yesterday and now I am scum read by someone for voting scum
really it is kind of just
were scum trying to save enchant from dying
in which case i would think it is doctor drew and alianna

or were scum just bussing cause enchant was caught
in which case i think it would actually be you and bristep together
I think it's irrelevant because it could be either. And just going off of that is silly. Who has been scummiest till now should be the most important thing

And again, hop aboard the Aliana train Theta. I saved a seat just for you.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #842 (isolation #111) » Sat May 06, 2023 4:21 pm

In post 835, Alianna wrote: Doc, what are you even scumreading me for?

In post 838, Alianna wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but all I can see is that Doc voted me because Theta's posting around my associatives pinged him and he wanted to test her, but she's semi-confirmed now. I don't recall him ever expressing an actual reason to SR me. So what's the point of 834?

Somewhat correct in that I wanted to test her, but I don't reveal all my methods.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #845 (isolation #112) » Sat May 06, 2023 4:40 pm

In post 844, Alianna wrote:
In post 842, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 835, Alianna wrote: Doc, what are you even scumreading me for?

In post 838, Alianna wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but all I can see is that Doc voted me because Theta's posting around my associatives pinged him and he wanted to test her, but she's semi-confirmed now. I don't recall him ever expressing an actual reason to SR me. So what's the point of 834?
Somewhat correct in that I wanted to test her, but I don't reveal all my methods.
Fine, keep your secrets.

I will for now.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #862 (isolation #113) » Sun May 07, 2023 9:15 am

In post 860, Theta Alpine wrote: we have three days so no rush on hammering

and uh
you are at e-1 hu
a claim would be a good idea

Better now then to be rushing at the end of day trying to get a lim in.

Doctor Drew · Sun May 07, 2023 10:34 am

In post 863, Emperor flippyNips wrote: Honestly I got nothing I was just gonna sheep DD and hope for the best. I haven’t really been in the game mood but tried to stick around for my buddies. But they gone, which is why I was down to bite the bullet

If you wanted to sheep me, you would have been voting Aliana.

But I am fine with Hu Tao getting the axe.

Doctor Drew · Sun May 07, 2023 10:40 am

In post 867, Emperor flippyNips wrote: VOTE: aliana

For my boo

This is too little too late, you already broke my heart saying I wasn't your buddy

Doctor Drew · Post Post #875 (isolation #116) » Sun May 07, 2023 1:39 pm

In post 874, redFF wrote: those posts from emp...is this checked out town or scum trying too hard to seem like checked out town

I don't think I ever really read him correctly.

The one thing I did have an issue was him saying I always killed him when I am scum, pretty sure that only happened once(the game that just ended where you copped me, red).

Doctor Drew · Post Post #878 (isolation #117) » Sun May 07, 2023 4:00 pm

In post 877, Deltabreedy wrote: I'll be hammering Hu Tao at around noon UK time. That's 8 hours from now.

Hopefully they turn up and say something first, but at that point I'll have had declared intent for just shy of 24 hours.

Brah

What are you doing up?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #880 (isolation #118) » Sun May 07, 2023 4:07 pm

In post 879, Deltabreedy wrote: 7 years working nights leading to a munted sleep cycle, the couple upstairs 'making love' and a police raid at the old folks home opposite.

Buzz in when you hear an answer you like.

I am very intrigued about the police raid at the old folks home.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #884 (isolation #119) » Sun May 07, 2023 4:13 pm

In post 883, Deltabreedy wrote:
In post 880, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 879, Deltabreedy wrote: 7 years working nights leading to a munted sleep cycle, the couple upstairs 'making love' and a police raid at the old folks home opposite.

Buzz in when you hear an answer you like.
I am very intrigued about the police raid at the old folks home.
I haven't popped my head out to ask, unfortunately.

Anyway yeah I want a claim from Hu Tao tbh, I cba with someone softing and expecting us all to be like 'oh sound yeah nah go for it'.

Like I say - 8 hours or so.

Maybe pop your head into your neighbors place, they might be looking for a third.

Also, for shits and giggs I am going to check out there iso for their soft.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #885 (isolation #120) » Sun May 07, 2023 4:20 pm

I will wait for their actual claim before I comment more.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #889 (isolation #121) » Sun May 07, 2023 4:30 pm

In post 886, Alianna wrote:
In post 854, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 812, Hu Tao wrote: Personally I don't like claiming pr until I HAVE to. But I guess that could just be me
Here
Pretty sure this was their soft.

Well so much for being coy lol

Doctor Drew · Post Post #907 (isolation #122) » Wed May 10, 2023 4:23 am

I don't think my role has much utility anymore, and I may have a soft clear(possibly, but given the abilities that scum have I believe it is) on Alianna.

I am and even night informed finder, odd night enabler finder.

N1 I investigated FL, he was not informed(obviously). This is why initially I lock towned him, though kind of waffled when I realized I misunderstood what informed meant(I thought it was like Mafia is the 'informed minority's), but then double checked the wiki and it just means someone with extra info if the setup or roles etc. So with a traitor out there I believe the Mafia or the traitor is informed about this, or at least one of them is if that makes sense.

N2 I found out Kitty is not an enabler.

Last night I found out Alianna is not informed.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #908 (isolation #123) » Wed May 10, 2023 4:26 am

And specifically the result comes back as they are not an informed, not that they are not informed. Not sure if that difference is important.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #914 (isolation #124) » Wed May 10, 2023 5:40 am

In post 908, Doctor Drew wrote: And specifically the result comes back as they are not an informed, not that they are not informed. Not sure if that difference is important.

For clarification, their role does not include the word 'Informed'.

Doctor Drew · Wed May 10, 2023 10:00 am

In post 915, bristep123 wrote: Theta - Informed is part time of a role title, kittytacky was informed that’s how it was confirmed that we have a traitor. Stands to reason there may be an informed scum as well in that third slot but not for certain. Any rule speculation on whether any faction were inherently classed as informed would be moot, it’s specifically a role ability.

First off, I flip flopped my night abilities.....should be odd night informed finder, even night enabler finder. Hence finding out last Night that Alianna is not an informed role.

Second, I guess my role is possibly meant to find scum one night and possibly clear town another night? Thinking this because both scum have been enablers, and Kitty was informed.

So maybe it doesn't really clear Alianna as much as I first thought.

Doctor Drew · Wed May 10, 2023 11:42 am

In post 918, Alianna wrote: Do you think there's a significant possibility that the mod put a watcher and a watcher-enabler ninja on the same scumteam?

No, but I am looking at it through the lens of my role.

Also, we don't know if you are actually a watcher.

At the very least you can acknowledge that I have been spelling your name right here.

Doctor Drew · Wed May 10, 2023 11:50 am

In post 921, Deltabreedy wrote:
@Mod:

V/LA for 30-ish hours from now.

Do we still have any claims outstanding? Don't think we've seen a flippy one.

@Alianna & Drew

To be honest I don't know what to make of the roles this game. I can't say it's something to rule out and I don't think a same-team watcher/watcher-enabler would count as bastard.

That said, there's been a trend for scum enablers to town PRs so it would be a bit of a stretch to suggest a scum watcher, in my opinion.

Again, we're missing claims so I feel pretty out of my depth when it comes to the massclaim.

I am saying that Alianna claiming watcher doesn't mean she is a watcher, especially after we just had a flip of watcher-enabler.

Doctor Drew · Wed May 10, 2023 11:51 am

In post 924, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 921, Deltabreedy wrote:
@Mod:

V/LA for 30-ish hours from now.

Do we still have any claims outstanding? Don't think we've seen a flippy one.

@Alianna & Drew

To be honest I don't know what to make of the roles this game. I can't say it's something to rule out and I don't think a same-team watcher/watcher-enabler would count as bastard.

That said, there's been a trend for scum enablers to town PRs so it would be a bit of a stretch to suggest a scum watcher, in my opinion.

Again, we're missing claims so I feel pretty out of my depth when it comes to the massclaim.
I am saying that Alianna claiming watcher doesn't mean she is a watcher, especially after we just had a flip of watcher-enabler.

Post Edit: I don't want that to come off as I am dismissing it, one would assume there would be a watcher now.....but not gonna lock town her quite yet.

Doctor Drew · Wed May 10, 2023 12:08 pm

Aliana, great work there.

Now Alianna, I am not too sure about.

Doctor Drew · Wed May 10, 2023 12:25 pm

In post 932, Alianna wrote: It feels like you've reacted differently to my claim than to redFF's JK claim after the JK-enabler died. I don't recall you saying much about them, but it's like you're trying to emphasize that I shouldn't be treated as conftown. That's fine on its own, it's just that I don't think you've treated our slots the same way. Why is that?

That is fair, but a bit of recency bias I guess.

And that I checked you out last not and got the 'not an informed' message back, and just kinda focused on on you and your claim. Didn't really think about how my informed finder ability was probably to catch scum until after the flip on Hu.

But yes, Red should not get a free pass.

Doctor Drew · Wed May 10, 2023 12:45 pm

In post 934, Alianna wrote:
In post 917, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 915, bristep123 wrote: Theta - Informed is part time of a role title, kittytacky was informed that’s how it was confirmed that we have a traitor. Stands to reason there may be an informed scum as well in that third slot but not for certain. Any rule speculation on whether any faction were inherently classed as informed would be moot, it’s specifically a role ability.
First off, I flip flopped my night abilities.....should be odd night informed finder, even night enabler finder. Hence finding out last Night that Alianna is not an informed role.

Second, I guess my role is possibly meant to find scum one night and possibly clear town another night? Thinking this because both scum have been enablers, and Kitty was informed.

So maybe it doesn't really clear Alianna as much as I first thought.

In post 933, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 932, Alianna wrote: It feels like you've reacted differently to my claim than to redFF's JK claim after the JK-enabler died. I don't recall you saying much about them, but it's like you're trying to emphasize that I shouldn't be treated as conftown. That's fine on its own, it's just that I don't think you've treated our slots the same way. Why is that?
That is fair, but a bit of recency bias I guess.

And that I checked you out last not and got the 'not an informed' message back, and just kinda focused on on you and your claim. Didn't really think about how my informed finder ability was probably to catch scum until after the flip on Hu.

But yes, Red should not get a free pass.
I think you mean the other way around.

What do you mean?

Doctor Drew · Wed May 10, 2023 12:55 pm

In post 940, Alianna wrote: Post 917 implied that you thought the enabler-finder ability might be for catching scum (since both scum were enablers) and the informed-finder ability might be for clearing town (since Kitty was informed).
In 933, you said you thought the informed-finder was for catching scum. I assumed you meant to say enabler-finder since you referenced Hu Tao's flip.

In post 941, Alianna wrote: Am I wrong about one of those assumptions?

Jesus H.

I wish I could tell you how many times I kept checking my role PM to know what action takes place what night.

And here I am still fucking it up.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #943 (isolation #133) » Thu May 11, 2023 3:05 am

I have a feeling Flippynips won't be claiming anytime soon

Doctor Drew · Post Post #957 (isolation #134) » Thu May 11, 2023 7:01 am

I was just gonna say Bristep, Tracker is an easy role to fake claim, and is a bit sus that Flippy would say he tracked me when I already outed who I visited. Whole lotta wifom going on here.

Also not sure if it is good to either confirm or deny Theta saying I am lazy.

Doctor Drew · Thu May 11, 2023 11:07 am

Stupid question about traitors, they know who scum is but scum don't know who the traitors are, correct?

Doctor Drew · Thu May 11, 2023 11:46 am

In post 959, Alianna wrote: N1 - Doctor Drew (targeted by Emperor flippyNips and Flavor Leaf)
N2 - Flavor Leaf (targeted by no one - kill was made by the ninja)

Did I miss that you were only 2-shot?

Doctor Drew · Thu May 11, 2023 11:52 am

In post 970, Alianna wrote: Enabler.

Ahhh, ok Aliana

Doctor Drew · Thu May 11, 2023 11:53 am

I mean, honestly I do like Theta's plan.

I kinda feel unless someone fake claimed well, we got this.

Doctor Drew · Thu May 11, 2023 12:15 pm

The only issue I have is Alianna not claiming her targets until after I and Flippy claimed ours.

And somewhat of the same problem with Flippy as well.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #988 (isolation #140) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:03 pm

I hate end game paranoia lol

But whatevs

VOTE: Bristep

E-1 I believe

Doctor Drew · Post Post #994 (isolation #141) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:30 pm

In post 991, Alianna wrote: I think we're good to hammer.

In post 992, Alianna wrote: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

Ironically we need an Enchant type right about now heh.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #998 (isolation #142) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:40 pm

In post 534, Alianna wrote:Ghost of Enchant

In post 536, Alianna wrote: Ghost of Enchant

Maybe one more will summon them.

Doctor Drew · Thu May 11, 2023 1:44 pm

@Mod

Resurrect Enchant and make them town, let's make this game not so normal

Doctor Drew · Sat May 13, 2023 2:46 pm

Well, fwiw......Theta is not an Enabler.

VOTE: Flippy

Doctor Drew · Sat May 13, 2023 2:46 pm

UNVOTE:

Doctor Drew · Sat May 13, 2023 2:46 pm

Wait, don't want to act in haste

Doctor Drew · Sat May 13, 2023 3:25 pm

I am not lazy.

Doctor Drew · Sat May 13, 2023 3:32 pm

My theory is Flippy with Alianna a traitor

Doctor Drew · Sat May 13, 2023 3:37 pm

In post 1019, Alianna wrote: Haven't done the reading yet but from my POV it's either Doc or Emperor.

I mean, I get it.

Independent of being pseudo 1v1, I believe it to be Flippy.

Doctor Drew · Sat May 13, 2023 3:45 pm

So is it Alianna?

Doctor Drew · Sat May 13, 2023 4:37 pm

In post 1027, Theta Alpine wrote: we are very much in lilo as well

so a town vote on town and both the group scum and the traitor could vote and end it

but luckily that requires coordination without the benefit of a pt

And objectively speaking, no one can be trusted to control the narrative here.

I kinda think we have to state who we think is the group scum, and then go from there.

Pre Edit: Nothing wrong with stating your case now Theta

Doctor Drew · Sun May 14, 2023 9:37 am

I can assure you I am neither group scum or traitor.

Question Theta, if you think I am scum do you believe my role claim is true?

I guess that goes for everyone as well.

Doctor Drew · Sun May 14, 2023 9:48 am

What role would scumDrew have then?

And why would I proactively out myself as not Doc or Tracker, and why would my scum buddy(Enchant) be one of those to limit any potential fake claim scumDrew would try to pull off?

Doctor Drew · Sun May 14, 2023 11:07 am

In post 1054, Theta Alpine wrote: i believe your claim is partially true
but i think you are something else instead of an enabler finder

Well you are wrong

Doctor Drew · Sun May 14, 2023 1:38 pm

Why did Alianna wait until after Flippy claimed to say who she targeted?

Why would I kill Red when you yourself said they would have been your main target today?

And again, why would I limit my pool of a fakeclaim by confirming I wasn't a tracker or doctor(and again, especially when my scum buddy brought it up).

There are many logical reasons where I can't be scum here.

Doctor Drew · Sun May 14, 2023 1:57 pm

In post 1079, Alianna wrote:
In post 1076, Theta Alpine wrote: alright then

between drew and alianna
i think i will just prefer drew over alianna
i continue to believe that flippy having lazy means they are just town outright

too much paranoia and aaaaaa though wow
but i think i am fine with this current stance now

so what does everyone else think
doctor drew lim or anyone want to propose something else
I'm not totally sold on flippy!town.

From my view, not completely sold it is you either, Flippy's claim seems much more sketch.

And it wasn't until after your targets were similar to Flippys that I thought you waiting to claim was sketch.

Also might be tinfoil, but starting to believe Theta is the traitor.

Doctor Drew · Sun May 14, 2023 2:05 pm

In post 1081, Alianna wrote: flippy!groupscum, Theta!traitor?

Kinda goes back to, forget which Day it was, but right from the start was feeling like you could be scum, but when I offered to wagon you, the shifted gears.

And I feel like the way they acted their and now here, is theater. It seems so 'woah is me how can I possibly choose!!'

Coming off a bit phony tbh.

That and glossing over reasons why I can't be scum yet basically locking Flippy as town based on the Lazy thing.

There is some holes in their logic.

Doctor Drew · Sun May 14, 2023 2:13 pm

Hmm, if you are scum Alianna, then you definitely have your loose ends tied up lol.

I think I feel good for a Flippy vote.

Pre Edit: Exactly, they would do whatever to make sure scum isn't the vote.

And Theta has been trying to be town leader since at least yesterDay.

Doctor Drew · Sun May 14, 2023 2:47 pm

In post 1087, Alianna wrote: Idk if we can even get flippy executed.
Which is exactly the reason I think we need to execute them.

You don't think Delta would go for them?

Doctor Drew · Sun May 14, 2023 2:58 pm

In post 1089, Alianna wrote:
In post 1088, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1087, Alianna wrote: Idk if we can even get flippy executed.
Which is exactly the reason I think we need to execute them.
You don't think Delta would go for them?
He did say he preferred either of us first, but possibly.

Seemed like he was just going off the assumption it would be between us.

Pre Edit: Lol, same here.

I will be up for awhile as well, EST here

Doctor Drew · Sun May 14, 2023 4:12 pm

All the blood

VOTE: Flippy

Doctor Drew · Sun May 14, 2023 4:30 pm

In post 1094, Alianna wrote: Why'd you wait for me to vote first?

Wasn't sure how much you trusted me, I wanted you to do it on your own accord and not because of pressure from me.

And I didn't fully trust you enough that you would vote Flippy, hence why I said I will be up for awhile so if you did vote, I am right behind you.

I get your paranoia, but following the logic.....this has to be the solve.

Doctor Drew · Sun May 14, 2023 4:42 pm

In post 1097, Alianna wrote: The paranoia is killing me though.

Listen.

Your tinfoil theory on Delta spelling your name wrong as a call to me.......I am witnessing your paranoia haha.

Which ironically makes me paranoid that it is you(but that would be some crazy open wolfing).

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 8:08 am

Only speaking to Delta here since I am almost positive it is ScumFlippy TraitorTheta.

Delta, traitor will do whatever to make sure scum isn't elim'ed at this stage in the game. Theta is going out of their way to not even consider Flippy as scum because they claimed lazy, yet easily dismisses my abilities, yet has no explanation for what role scumDrew possibly has.

We are in at least mis elim or lose, town wouldn't just dismiss one person out of three like they are doing as town.

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 8:26 am

In post 1146, Theta Alpine wrote: i believe scum now knows who their traitor is
so this is just lilo
traitor and group scum versus two town is an automatic win for scum

Then vote Flippy.

Easy town win here.

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 8:35 am

In post 1148, Theta Alpine wrote: there is no reason for scum to have lazy
i have fully accepted losing the game if it is flippy scum
they are mislim bait
not actually scum

You don't think that just the tracker part of their role is lazy.

Also I genuinely forgot, what did you claim?

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 8:42 am

In post 1150, Deltabreedy wrote: Scum can have the lazy modifier

However Theta and I were cleared of being traitors since we didn't have any kind of informed modifier, as far as my understanding goes?

Cleared of not being in a PT.

Flippy, all the work to make sure you aren't elim'ed.

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 8:43 am

Means you or Theta isn't group scum, but still can be traitors.

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 8:49 am

In post 1157, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 1156, Emperor flippyNips wrote: I was trying to die when it wasn’t going to cost town but it’s fine
you could just
vote doctor drew and let delta decide instead of giving up

I mean, seems a bit for show when the game was about to be over anyways.

But I am ok with this.

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 8:50 am

Vote Alianna then, I am fine letting Delta decide.

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 11:59 am

Of course Delta would be away now lol.

In the meantime, anyone seen any good movies lately?

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 12:40 pm

In post 1171, Deltabreedy wrote: @Drew

At what point did you go from Alianna being a traitor to Theta!Traitor?

Last night probably(my time). Them going through their Night actions(Alianna I mean) and her showing that she has been questioning Flippy on their actions and read of me.

This coupled with how Theta has been so dismissive of Flippy as possible scum based off one modifier that scum could have, all while doing whatever they can to call into question my role. That is what the traitor would do, make sure group scum stays alive.

Alianna still can be group scum, but all things considered I feel much more strongly that all signs point to Flippy.

And from my perspective, I know I am not scum not the traitor, and I don't see Alianna going out of their way to keep Flippy alive, and obviously quite the opposite since she is voting Flippy.

And yes, I find it more than likely that Flippy is actually a tracker, just for scum.

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 12:52 pm

In post 1182, Alianna wrote: @Doc - if I'm groupscum, who's my traitor? It can't be you from your perspective, Delta's confirmed town for not quickhammering either wagon, and flippy and Theta are voting me.

I just meant objectively speaking.

I said as much I am way more certain it is Flippy.

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 1:44 pm

In post 1196, Theta Alpine wrote: well
and i think alianna is the traitor but

Literally zero chance of this.

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 1:45 pm

In post 1197, Theta Alpine wrote: i think they are a watcher
and yes that means they are disabled by the watcher-enabler dying

but i think they are a traitor as well
just kind of makes sense mechanically

i think flippy being lazy and 2 shot is a result of review
they were always going to be lazy
review said that would still be too powerful so
two shots as well

that is
answers to the questions that have been directed my way i think

You are seriously just trying to justify the reads even you don't believe.

Mech speak as a defense of Flippy now?

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 2:08 pm

In post 52, Alianna wrote:
In post 49, Theta Alpine wrote: only 2 wolves hmm

must be a 3rd party then as well
Nah, he probably just slipped that it's a traitor game.

In post 53, Doctor Drew wrote: 'The game should have at least one Mafia or Werewolf group (of at least two members). In mini games (at most 13 players), there must be exactly one such group, with no third parties'

Quoted from the wiki on normal games.

Pre Edit: Shut your mouth Alianna

Lol.

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 2:56 pm

Ha, what a swerve.

No one even considered that all there was left was the traitor.

Hi5 to Alianna, we didn't get there the conventional way, but we solved it in endgame.

But fun game all around, nice job on the setup Bianco

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 3:00 pm

If Flippy could have pulled that off, I would have been very impressed.

What happens if Alianna or I was flipped here?

Pre Edit: Theta, I figured Flippy was Lazy, but never thought it could be used for the traitor.

Makes a lot of sense in hindsight, and brilliant use of it Bianco......but had us all stumped.

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 3:02 pm

In post 1266, Deltabreedy wrote:Drewliana

Well Alianna, if we ever hydra.....we know have a name lol

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 3:02 pm

In post 1269, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1266, Deltabreedy wrote:Drewliana
Well Alianna, if we ever hydra.....we know have a name lol

(minus the spelling lol)

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 3:13 pm

In post 1279, Theta Alpine wrote: ooh

with doctor drew would have been

not sure what i would have done there to be honest

Honestly, would have been very exciting and infuriating at the same time haha.

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 3:20 pm

In post 1288, biancospino wrote: Thanks all for playing; special thanks to furtiveglance for being my backup, to Mastina and Datisi for reviewing (and it was a... somewhat laaborious review too), and to Implosion for letting me run this abomination.

If you have any complains about the modding, the setup, or anything else, please let me know!

If you liked this game, I'm working on a mini theme that I hope to finalize soon, and that will probably be nothing like this game.

You somehow made a normal game a bit wackadoo, love you for this.

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 3:34 pm

Flippy posting by himself in scum chat was both sad and hilarious

Doctor Drew · Mon May 15, 2023 3:39 pm

In post 1302, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 1300, Doctor Drew wrote: Flippy posting by himself in scum chat was both sad and hilarious

Lol thank you, thank you. That’s how it felt

Also I just noticed how you and FL have very similar avatars.

Doctor Drew · Tue May 16, 2023 9:57 am

Lol, I love how Bianco was so worried about how I didn't respond immediately to my role PM.

IIRC, I read it just before I shut my eyes for the night.