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[Brian Skies]

Hello! I'm excited to play with so many familiar faces.

[Brian Skies]

Spoiler:

VOTE: brian skies

the sky in the flavor image is blue, pink and orange, but it doesn't appear to be brian at all

This post feels town to me.

Updated readslist:

Brian Skies - scum
bob3141 - town
northsidegal - town
Marquis - town
Alisae - town
GuyInFreezer - town
Cephrir - town
Ethel - town
Elpis - town
Save The Dragons - town
NorwegianboyEE - town
ballpointpen - town
Firebringer - town

VOTE: Brian Skies

Can we try getting Brian to L-1 before he makes a post. I think that would be fun

This one also feels town.

i wont allow it. i wont be buddied.
i am the one who will pocket everyone.

No one can pocket me. I will scumread everyone to protect myself from all buddying

Firepup feels like town.

Brian is never scum.

Literally can't remember when I last played scum.

hmm, i'm thinking that brian skies is probably scum

VOTE: brian skies

This one is probably evil.

Ez game VOTE: Brian skies

Probably town too.

VOTE: Cephrir
Bet you didn't expect that!

VOTE: Cephrir
Bet you didn't expect that!

et tu, erminé?

Vive la République!

First post is meh, could go either way. Second post bumps it up to town.

And then the game devolves back into RVS. Reads:

Town
Marquee
Firepup
Ethel
Bob
Cephrir
Save the Dragons
----------------------
Norwee
Gif
Elpis
Ballpointpen
Alisae
---------------------
NSG
Scum

I'm caught up now.

[Brian Skies]

I'm pretty sure the best course of action, instead of an unmanageable 200-page day 1,

is just power-wagon someone who isn't obvtown and figure out the rest of the game starting day 2 based on the flips, wagons, and behaviors around that

I'm a fan of power-wagons. However, I propose not eliminating the someone in the event they obvtown [or at least convinces most of us they're town].

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: NSG

[Brian Skies]

I would prefer not having a super long day. But...

I'm not against spending the next 12 days building up a townblock and poe eliminating those outside of it.

[Brian Skies]

There's always a spot reserved for you, Firepup.

[Brian Skies]

Welcome, Not Mafia!

[Brian Skies]

Happy Birthday Not_Mafia!

[Brian Skies]

Bob, if you were to cast aside your wagon theory, what would you read me as?

[Brian Skies]

You'll eventually learn to sort through the madness.

[Brian Skies]

I for one have not found much alignment indicative content in the last several pages. I think the last thing I noticed was "Brian is probably town because of early wagon statistics." Not bad by any means, but we can do better.

I would actually consolidate my vote if needed. I don't think both wagons are on scum, but I believe one would provide considerably more value than the other if actually town.

Ballpoint has only really talked about ChatGPT. And that is something I don't mind voting for.

[Brian Skies]

Faking charisma and credibility usually helps in leading eliminations. SHOUTING helps too.

[Brian Skies]

I think bob is town.

[Brian Skies]

I'm also biased.

[Brian Skies]

No! We're supposed to join forces and defeat the evil scum one at a time.

[Brian Skies]

NM is part of this too?

[Brian Skies]

Okay, I've convinced myself to betray Firepup.

VOTE: ballpointpen

[Brian Skies]

I will lol if he actually lolhammers this.

[Brian Skies]

UNVOTE: ballpointpen

[Brian Skies]

It's been so long, I forgot which ones were the lolhammerers.

[Brian Skies]

Can we try the ballpointpen hammer again? Then elim NSG day 2 cos she's scum?

If NSG is scum, why don't we lolhammer her Day 1 instead?

[Brian Skies]

No free outs. You have to suffer like the rest of us.

[Brian Skies]

The day has barely started too. Plenty of time to generate content.

[Brian Skies]

Bob, if you were to cast aside your wagon theory, what would you read me as?

[Brian Skies]

Ah yes. It's not a real game without some healthy OMGUS.

[Brian Skies]

I didn’t read last 15 pages but from what it looks like, bpp has to be town right

There is nothing that indicates the sort.

[Brian Skies]

Ballpoint, if you're so distraught over the potential quickhammer, then why are you focusing your attention on the two players that unvoted the wagon (one of whom had nothing to do with the plan to quickhammer) instead of the players who were actually calling for your quick elimination?

[Brian Skies]

brian could most definitely be scum and i feel like my posts were just blatantly ignored from today, which is just great

Which of these posts do you think got blatantly ignored?

Spoiler: All of Ballpoint's Previous Posts

i was going to write my post using chatgpt but i don't have to balls to do that in a foreign forum

VOTE: bob3141

i don't know if your username is a reflection of not knowing pi to 5 digits or just an attempt to trigger everyone, which is far worse

if more than 3 people want to see the chatgpt attempt i will post it and let you guys figure out what i asked chatgpt to write to create such a post

VOTE: ballpointpen

Feels like they believe teh pen is mighter than the sword

average keyboard fan vs average pen enjoyer

if anyone writes all their messages using a drawing tablet i will ensure they are locktown for the rest of the game

im disappointed nobody wanted to know what chatgpt was going to say because i was going to use that to determine who might be town but whatever

ceph and norwegian >rand town, std and nsg >rand scum
firebringer so polarized that the read just averages to null, funny

std's level of engagement in the whole rvs exchange irks me slightly
its in that limbo of "present but not actually having a good time"

are you feeding posts into chatgpt or how is chatgpt doing this
because chatgpt never gives me anything when i ask it for alignments

chatgpt would probably break from trying to determine your alignment if it had such a function

also i don't know if i trust chatgpt for anything i once asked it to analyze the user firebringer and describe his playstyle and all it gave me was "firebringer is a strong player" which is so false that i think chatgpt was just trying to buddy me

i mean it never once lied to me about how to center a div so clearly it can't be scum

[Brian Skies]

There was almost a quickhammer, but your slot unvoted in time to prevent it. No one's been eliminated yet.

[Brian Skies]

So, ahmished tell sounds familiar to me. But what does it mean?

[Brian Skies]

Town
Marquee
Firepup
Gif
Andante*
Norwee
----------------------
Cephrir
Ethel
----------------------
Save the Dragons
Elpis
Not_Mafia
Ballpointpen
---------------------
NSG
Scum

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: NSG

[Brian Skies]

I will not stand in the way of an Andante elimination.

[Brian Skies]

I'm offended that you have me below NM.

[Brian Skies]

For a full readlist so far:

NM
Andante
Brian
BPP
NSG


Scum

You think every wagon has been on scum?

[Brian Skies]

I was under the impression that tell was about isoing ones predecessor to see if they said anything scummy or claimed

It's also that, it's about a player coming in and being like, oh yeah that previous slot holder was scummy but I'm not

I've done this as scum.

I still don't know how viable the tell is though.

[Brian Skies]

andante didn't even look to see that bob wasn't the one who unvoted.

Are you talking about the BPP wagon or something else?

[Brian Skies]

Yeah, I didn't think she was serious enough to vote right away.

[Brian Skies]

Bob did unvote after me, but it was pretty much the same time.

[Brian Skies]

Oh, I guess he didn't unvote when I did. But still, I feel like it was close enough to justify his reaction to the wagon.

[Brian Skies]

Brian not remember events correctly. Smh so damn scummy

Lets forget i had to go back and check it to make sure i was being correct.

Ayyyyy. I get to be scum with you.

[Brian Skies]

I keep getting town PMs. I don't remember what the streak is at, but it's long.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Not Mafia

[Brian Skies]

I would vote BPP here if not for that being NM hammer range.

I am scumreading the slot, so consider this intent.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Ballpointpen

[Brian Skies]

I don't think you're a bad player.

[Brian Skies]

Why has the Andante wagon collapsed?

There were two shinier options.

Do you have a preference on who you'd like to hammer today?

[Brian Skies]

so I think we should give MT a day
and I think ethel is a much more likely slot to flip scum than bbp was

No. Scum replacements are still scum

Ceph If you feel so strong about Ethel being town we can go elsewhere

UNVOTE:

I'll read it up later

It's more that I really feel good about ballpoint being scum

I'm in a fair bit of agreement with Cephir here.

I suppose we can see what MT has to say, since she's already posting as I type this. Although the alternative, Ethel, seems to be a wagon based on playstyle difference?

[Brian Skies]

Awesome, Cephir did most of the work so I don't have to.

I'd also like to include BPP's opening about using ChatGPT to develop reads, which I read as null-scummy.

The push from BPP onto Bob was also pretty bad as BPP accused Bob of not trying to sort the quickhammer situation even though that was what Bob was doing. It was as if BPP wanted someone to blame/push for his near elimination, and just chose Bob as his target and forced a reason to push him.

[Brian Skies]

Enchant is scummy for being unoriginal and copying NM's entrance.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Enchant

[Brian Skies]

That leaves Brian, I suspect Brian for feeling towny in a game where most feel towny

How is this even a thing? Damned if I do seem townie, damned if I don't?

Ballpoint, if you're so distraught over the potential quickhammer, then why are you focusing your attention on the two players that unvoted the wagon (one of whom had nothing to do with the plan to quickhammer) instead of the players who were actually calling for your quick elimination?

I object, THat is not how that works! You almost let NM lolhammer (Granted you did the X-2 while NSG did the X-1, but a few posts passed before you unvoted)

But yes I kind of see how BPP latched on to the two unvoters rather than the people who started it which is a bit illogical considering the angle he was coming in at. Although I suspect both of you coincidentally

You are misunderstanding the intent of that post. I wasn't trying to exonerate myself and Bob. I was telling/questioning BPP's severely misguided push against Bob, to which BPP never actually responded.

[Brian Skies]

You left off Andante and myself.

[Brian Skies]

You left off Andante and myself.

is that concerning to you?

whats your read on elpis?

Yes, because little things like this can create false associatives. Also, I'm self-conscious and like to know what people think of me.

Null-town.

[Brian Skies]

Players in this game seem to be less active on weekends. Our best bet is probably the mad scramble that is bound to occur as the deadline tightens.

[Brian Skies]

I don't believe I've ever seen a psychologist before.

Anyhow, two of my scumreads flipped town. So I guess I'm sheeping for now.

VOTE: Ethel

[Brian Skies]

I'm town, ceph.

I do feel like brian could be scum bussing here

I would trade my life for a scumflip.

[Brian Skies]

Who is Ethan supposed to be?

[Brian Skies]

My prediction for mafia team is Gimli+Ethan+Firebringer/Brian Skies have fun (or don't i am laughing now)

reminder this is the scum pool enchant was gonna shoot in.
anyone who comes back to me and tells me enchant was a bad yeet, I will refer to this post and remind u. This is the pool that Enchant was gonna shoot in.

I think her pool would've been different if she wasn't eliminated. That group consists of three players on her wagon and Ethel (who was not voting).

[Brian Skies]

Thank you for the correction.

[Brian Skies]

My prediction for mafia team is Gimli+Ethan+Firebringer/Brian Skies have fun (or don't i am laughing now)

reminder this is the scum pool enchant was gonna shoot in.
anyone who comes back to me and tells me enchant was a bad yeet, I will refer to this post and remind u. This is the pool that Enchant was gonna shoot in.

I think her pool would've been different if she wasn't eliminated. That group consists of three players on her wagon and Ethel (who was not voting).

I mean, are you suggesting no scum were on that wagon? I feel like his team prediction was definitely reasonable.

No, I'm saying I don't think Enchant shoots in that pool if things turned out differently.

[Brian Skies]

Oh I see! Okay, that makes sense, thank you for explaining.

As for the Cephy read, I just know them well and maybe feel a little overconfident in my ability to gauge their actions. I could be way off, but i'm confident that i'm not.

I fail to see how one game constitutes "knowing him well."

[Brian Skies]

its something incredibly insane like brian/norwee/?????

that's why MT flipped, she is good at reading these guys

It's possible I've played with MT in the past, but in all honesty, I don't remember them at all.

And I feel as though the vast majority of players on this site have no clue how to read me.

[Brian Skies]

I feel Elpis is scum but i can't articulate at this minute.
I think the tone of his posts is kind of fuckery (as in it feels monotone and hard for me to figure out) and his explanation of why ceph couldn't be scum felt like a scum arguing for townie to me.

I've gotten the same feeling from Elpis' posts. It's like, he's never played a game with Cephrir (at least on this site), but he acts like he knows everything a town Ceph would or wouldn't do. It feels like he's spewing TMI and I do think it's possible he could be trying to buddy Cephrir.

[Brian Skies]

Maybe Gimli is scum.

[Brian Skies]

I for one do not townread Elpis, and while I know eliminating him is highly unlikely, I'm going to continue to sus him because he is sussy.

[Brian Skies]

It's clearly the town+town bond Firebringer and I share in our games together.

[Brian Skies]

Don't let him sway you Firepup!

He's scum trying to drive us apart!

[Brian Skies]

This is actually a fairly accurate description of my play. But I'm town!

[Brian Skies]

Ikr? It's my favorite one so far.

I like your No Doubt one. Solid choice of music.

[Brian Skies]

Also, being scumread for scumreading the wrong townies hurts considering this is a pretty difficult game. And I can't control how people read me.

[Brian Skies]

The ones that flipped town, clearly.

And I guess Elpis, but that's subjective at this point.

[Brian Skies]

I am usually not a perennial townread in my games. I usually float around the null zone. So in a game like this where everyone is giving reasons to be townread, of course I'm going to naturally float around in people's scumpools.

And I don't think I've ever been scum in a game with Firepup.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Gimli

[Brian Skies]

do we have any massive disagreements right now on reads tho Brian

I don't know what your reads are.

But no, I haven't seen anything worrying from you. Like even the Marquis read, I was paying more attention to the disclaimer than the fact you had Marquis as a potential scumread.

[Brian Skies]

I originally leaned scum on Gimli from his reads list. But his push about how we all have bad takes and reads when he literally has everyone outside of Norwee/Firebringer/me as town is sus (at least to me because I know I'm town, and I strongly believe Firepup is as well). Somewhat feels as though he's trying to influence the thread into making a bad elimination by discrediting the three of us into scumreads.

I'm not 100% on this read, but I think it makes for a passable "it's not me, screw you" vote.

[Brian Skies]

I am on that hill right now.

Probably shouldn't after my bad nsg read.
BUT I AM ON THE HILL WAITING FOR ALLIES TO JOIN ME IN MY RIGHTEOUS FURY

[Brian Skies]

I'm reconsidering my Elpis scumread. That reads list feels genuine to me.

I wonder if we can POE out scum-NM.

[Brian Skies]

You think so?

[Brian Skies]

I can see your point Firebringer. I will continue to look upon Elpis' posts with scrutiny.

[Brian Skies]

Andante, what's your read on Gimli?

[Brian Skies]

i am actually really annoyed that u were a confident townread and now even im questioning that.

Can one person in this game give me no doubts about them being town. I just need one person i don't need to go back and think "wait is that a scum post"

Firepup, I'm town.

[Brian Skies]

Huzzah! \o/

[Brian Skies]

the way elpis started this post questioning me about why i thought those people were neighbors and ended it taking as fact that they were enighbors feels town indicative

but perhaps i am simply falling for their trap

I mean if it helps, If you ISO brian_skies, they joke about it maybe 3 or 4 time? It's either a great running gag or they want people to know that.

Why ISO me?

[Brian Skies]

Is it really scummy if it's so blatant?

[Brian Skies]

They're so blatant, everyone just thinks they're town-motivated.

[Brian Skies]

I feel as though there's probably scum in the people who have been pushing the MT nightkill, and I feel like it's probably Gimli.

Unless MT crumbed PR somewhere, I wouldn't have made that kill (like why would I kill one of my scumreads whose slot was being suspected by most of the playerlist?).

[Brian Skies]

Like Norwee said, we're all scum and we're all piling on him to silence him.

[Brian Skies]

What about it upsets you?

[Brian Skies]

That is E-2 with NM off the wagon.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Not Mafia

[Brian Skies]

If you're going to lim me, then I'd like to be limmed this day phase.

[Brian Skies]

VT

[Brian Skies]

I think STD is scum. A small chance of Gimli being scum too.

[Brian Skies]

GG scum team.

Well deserved.