Mini Normal 2298 - Game Over!

[Marquis]

Updated readslist:

Brian Skies - scum
bob3141 - town
northsidegal - town
Marquis - town
Alisae - town
GuyInFreezer - town
Cephrir - town
Ethel - town
Elpis - town
Save The Dragons - town
NorwegianboyEE - town
ballpointpen - town
Firebringer - town

VOTE: Brian Skies

[Marquis]

Obligatory I haven't been here in a while post but like. Hi! How is everyone. in general

[Marquis]

Can we try getting Brian to L-1 before he makes a post. I think that would be fun

[Marquis]

VOTE: brian skies

VOTE: Brian Skies

VOTE: brian skies

VOTE: Brian skies

Thanks guys can I get uhhhhh 3 more votes plz!

Obligatory I haven't been here in a while post but like. Hi! How is everyone. in general

pretty good tbh i've made some very significant life changes and now the way my life looks is a lot closer to the way i want it to look

That actually makes me smile to hear that I have good memories with you in them so I'm happier that you're happier

Still working on it myself but also feeling more centered and confident and whatever!

[Marquis]

bob3141
Ethel
Elpis
ballpointpen

I think I've played with or known of everyone else at some point but for my reference how much mafia experience do you guys have? are you guys alts?

Not trying to ask in a condescending way (esp bc I haven't played in years) but want to get a sense of where everyone's coming from

[Marquis]

ME: stick in the mud trying to play the game semi seriously bc I feel like I have to show I won't replace out after 24 hours

[Marquis]

I think I tried "coming back" like 4 times and replaced out almost immediately all 4
Sorry FakeGod

[Marquis]

I'm town this time so if at the very least I can show I'm obvtown, even if my reads suck, I can just chill and coast no stress the rest of the way thru

[Marquis]

fuck

[Marquis]

Updated readslist:

Brian Skies -
bob3141 - scum
northsidegal - town
Marquis - town
Alisae -
GuyInFreezer - town
Cephrir - town
Ethel - town
Elpis - town
Save The Dragons -
NorwegianboyEE - town
ballpointpen -
Firebringer -

[Marquis]

Updated readslist:

Brian Skies -
bob3141 - scum
northsidegal - town
Marquis - town
Alisae -
GuyInFreezer - town
Cephrir - town
Ethel - town
Elpis - town
Save The Dragons -
NorwegianboyEE - town
ballpointpen - scum
Firebringer -

[Marquis]

VOTE: bob3141

[Marquis]

UNVOTE:

[Marquis]

Spoiler: bob - back and forth on this read

VOTE: ballpointpen

Feels like they believe teh pen is mighter than the sword

comes in end of page 2, we were already kind of leaving RVS, and this felt like an out of place attempt to keep themselves in casual RVS, rather than engage with what was happening

Bob's later posts kinda read as misguided town though, so I can also see this first post as town not reading anything and just throwing a vote while thinking of how to make it clever. I do that too

Spoiler: ballpoint - lean scum

i was going to write my post using chatgpt but i don't have to balls to do that in a foreign forum

VOTE: bob3141

i don't know if your username is a reflection of not knowing pi to 5 digits or just an attempt to trigger everyone, which is far worse

if more than 3 people want to see the chatgpt attempt i will post it and let you guys figure out what i asked chatgpt to write to create such a post

VOTE: ballpointpen

Feels like they believe teh pen is mighter than the sword

average keyboard fan vs average pen enjoyer

ballpoint's posts here felt like too much at once, trying too hard to be RVS chill... like when someone says "do whatever i don't care" specifically because they do kinda care

before bob started to read townier, I saw this exchange through the lens of scum theatre

forum mafia is basically armchair psychiatry yeah but thats how I felt reading these exchanges

[Marquis]

I started to think this before I left MS years ago but

I'm pretty sure the best course of action, instead of an unmanageable 200-page day 1,

is just power-wagon someone who isn't obvtown and figure out the rest of the game starting day 2 based on the flips, wagons, and behaviors around that

VOTE: ballpoint

id be p happy if anyone who townreads me partakes in the bloodlust alongside me!! :]

[Marquis]

I don't know if you intentionally

Very heavily amused by calling it armchair psychiatry, but it definitely does allude to reading far too much into every little statement like that, very funny

yeah I agree that's also my self analysis but in an environment where we're reading each other based simply on words and not voices, faces, and body language, that

is

kind of the root that the rest of the game grows from

[Marquis]

Very heavily amused by calling it armchair psychiatry, but it definitely does allude to reading far too much into every little statement like that, very funny

yeah I agree that's also my self analysis but in an environment where we're reading each other based simply on words and not voices, faces, and body language, that

is

kind of the root that the rest of the game grows from

Oh i'm sorry if that came across as some sort of judgement-- I actually agree with it

ok! I was going to say I don't know if you intentionally meant to sound sarcastic but that was my interpretation at the time

it was like it reminded me, I forgot how condescending this site could be at times. not you but it was always so unnecessarily mean like chill yall damn

[Marquis]

I'm here I think scum have done a p good job at demoralizing town/me thru noise
I don't realistically think I or any replacement is going to go back and trawl thru day 1 for analysis on changing dynamics or w.e

Anyway I'm tired of trying to find things I can read into with a straight face lets vote someone off the island

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I mean I'm aware I'm being a stick in the mud but I do think scum appreciate being able to hop in with random talk the past 12 pages like most of town have been. I guess scum could coast like NSG but don't think anything about this demoralizes scum

Wouldn't complain about an early hammer tho, thatd still be fun

[Marquis]

If someone with more motivation than I wants to do a quick list of who's posted anything vaguely like reads/content/potentially alignment indicative votes, vs who hasn't, thatd be nice
Im lazy rn tho

[Marquis]

Oh I think there's a lot of content I'm just not motivated to fish it out

[Marquis]

I guess scum could coast like NSG but don't think anything about this demoralizes scum

can you describe what you mean by "coast"

[Marquis]

I think its cute!!
Fire if NSG flips town would you also be ok with being flipped? Not that u would but like hypotheeeetically

[Marquis]

bop it! twist it! pull it! bop it!

[Marquis]

whjat does that mean

[Marquis]

shut up ceph im doing it for the content

[Marquis]

i havent been around the srs-mafia part of the site in years ok my memory extends to wifom and THATS IT
but i mean we could if u want to :)

[Marquis]

YEAH i still think ballpointpen is scummier than most
though i'm not the biggest fan of how ethel and elpis hopped on, i appreciate their commitment to the cause

basically this sequence of ballpoint posting in response to bob's RVS vote felt just like...super trying too hard to chillax

Spoiler: ballpoint - lean scum

i was going to write my post using chatgpt but i don't have to balls to do that in a foreign forum

VOTE: bob3141

i don't know if your username is a reflection of not knowing pi to 5 digits or just an attempt to trigger everyone, which is far worse

if more than 3 people want to see the chatgpt attempt i will post it and let you guys figure out what i asked chatgpt to write to create such a post

VOTE: ballpointpen

Feels like they believe teh pen is mighter than the sword

average keyboard fan vs average pen enjoyer

ballpoint's posts here felt like too much at once, trying too hard to be RVS chill... like when someone says "do whatever i don't care" specifically because they do kinda care

before bob started to read townier, I saw this exchange through the lens of scum theatre

[Marquis]

me, imagining bob and ball agreed in pregame scum chat to rvs vote each other then ball failing to sound casual abt all of it
a boy can dream

[Marquis]

UNVOTE:
im sad at being wrong

[Marquis]

VOTE: bob3141
ill prob vote with fire today

[Marquis]

townish

Marquis
Firebringer
Cephrir
Save The Dragons
Elpis
Ethel
ballpointpen

Brian Skies
GuyInFreezer

bob3141/Andante
northsidegal
Not_Mafia

less townish but nothing specifically scumish i care enough about for now

I don't really have clear townreads or scumreads at this point, just people I would be slightly less and slightly more OK with voting out

All in all I think I'm not too bothered about that D1 tbh. Comfortable with a shot in the dark, pointed away from myself or anyone I'm mildly comfy with

[Marquis]

oh i couldnt figure out where to put Norwegian so imagine theyre in the center blob

[Marquis]

NSG, do you have any particular reason why you're so upset with this game? I don't want to vote you just based on attitude alone, but do you feel like you'll be able to assist in scumhunting? Your actions seem too genuinely hostile to be just straight scum, so I really would like more input on what's going on there.

This is my take. Mine

[Marquis]

too genuinely hostile to be just straight scum

Well except for this, I don't believe the hostility is entirely organic but not convinced yet of which way it falls

[Marquis]

I think Andante's push on Ethel comes from town
UNVOTE:

Will read more later

[Marquis]

I played with scum andante and she was quite reactionary like she is being here but I feel like here she replaced into a not-scummy-slot and her posting hasn't been awkward and rn the strength of how much she believes in herself seems like things andante might have trouble replicating as mafia

I also could just not know anything about Andante as a player meta wise

But like from my perspective it felt town. The whole misrep thing about Andante choosing only to read as far as "I don't think bob's slot was particularly scummy" and cutting off right before "but neither towny" feels bad but like it would more likely come from a town perspective


I'm also very down to vote Alisae/Not_Mafia slot today.

[Marquis]

VOTE: not_mafia
i nap now

[Marquis]

VOTE: bob

why the fuck was nobody but fire concerned about the fact that we basically quickhammered 2 days into the game
and why was bob more concerned about my alignment rather than the quickhammer itself

this post is very scummy

Yeah
I forgot why I stopped scumreading the pen slot
Lots of Gimli posts are like. Boom. Exactly my thoughts so I'll solidify that townread

[Marquis]

@ marquis, explain why you townread STD?

Said some casual chill stuff that sounded towny enough, like enough to feel like it couldn't be faked
Nothing concrete but not voting today

Also still not sure how I feel on nsg this felt like a question for the sake of a question

[Marquis]

I am bored away from home tonight so maybe I'll update my readslist with notes so I remember why I think what I think later on

Then if anyone wants to question my townreads and keep their options open for d1, feel free to do so after that

[Marquis]

Realizing I don't actually have a Ceph townread I just like him a lot :(

[Marquis]

Not a reaction just suspiciously good timing!

[Marquis]

I don't rly feel like talking to u rn so I'll close the game today and play tmrw!!

[Marquis]

I do think both NM and ballpoint could be scum
VOTE: ballpoint
I like this more read-wise, but prefer NM policy wise (ily old friend but if ur town plz show me)

[Marquis]

I don't rly feel like talking to u rn so I'll close the game today and play tmrw!!

have i done something to upset or offend you

are you finding dealing with me tiring or bothersome

Tiring. I'm not saying this to upset you and maybe it's just how you type but everything feels antagonistic beyond just healthy questioning. If you're town I understand being upset at being commonly scumread, but your tone keeps coming off as very mad to me and I don't always feel like making the effort to engage in good faith.

I'll try to complete my updated readslist today, and answer to your Qs about STD townread and other Qs (I think there were some? mentally blocked off a lot of this game overnight)

[Marquis]

Swap votes now bc u trust me to explain later anyway
source: trust me

[Marquis]

Swap votes now bc u trust me to explain later anyway
source: trust me

Hmm....well you ARE the most townread person here I feel like.

VOTE: Ballpoint Pen

I mean it wouldve been fine if you just said "ok" but like I am getting rly grossed out by this extra reasoning lol.

[Marquis]

There are currently 5 votes on ballpointpen, out of 7 to elim

:) as a fyi

I still don't know why Marquis is so town and at this point i'm afraid to ask.

Kinda self centered but this is the first time you've said anything about me or had an interaction related to me at all actually. Despite
We've been around at similar times so it's odd to me but I'm not totally certain what to make of that.

Anyway work time, game srs posting later

[Marquis]

I think everyone on the Ethel wagon is town so I'm tempted to switch over.
Only really think Elpis is town on my wagon and even then that's shakier than the rest.

I'm so lazy I didn't do a readslist and now I'm busy for the night again.

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If the scumteam is like Firebringer, STD, Elpis please refrain from throwing egg on my face in endgame.

[Marquis]

Oooh but I like that point too.
Feeling like a comedic background character who's entertained by the 2 main characters arguing and looks back and forth between them with a look of excited anticipation on his face

[Marquis]

Ok elpis can be town.

[Marquis]

As a treat

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Since the last time I posted my strongest and most confident scum read is Norwegian moreso than my past reads but like.. how to articulate why in a manner that makes sense

Vig kill them plz bc idk if I can convince anyone

[Marquis]

scumteam is Norwegian, ballpointpen, Ceph
sadge
gtg will be back tmrw if no hammer

[Marquis]

I'm going out to eat do NOT lay another vote on me without a warning first. NM will kill me and he will not show remorse. Allow me to get a word in, at least b

this is a scum post lmao just like can we get back to this

[Marquis]

I'm sick and will catch up tomorrow if I feel better

[Marquis]

Im still delirious lol but I intend to come back this weekend I hope
Do I have to officially say V/LA

[Marquis]

Hi
So I got shingles on the eye, face, and head which is super debilitating but I'm on medication now so... surviving

Anyway I'm pretty sure scum is Norwegian and Ceph/STD. Going to finally try and find those series of posts from D1 that made me sure
I have like no idea what happened D2 and D3 tbh I knew day started but I was putting off catching up until I felt a bit better and then they just ended fast
Idk what the motivation was for that

Also I understand there's probably a lot of drive to elim me which is justified from a frustrated town perspective, but like of course I also think it's more likely scum motivated as an easy target to end the game fast. A combination of ppl wanting to end this day fast/looking like they're in a rush/focusing that attention on me is just bad juju

Andante made a ton of posts D1 I thought would be too difficult to fake as scum so I'm just going to cement them as my locktown read and try to read the rest off of that. If that's wrong GG but whatever
Im gonna nap now and not look at this thread at all until later lol

[Marquis]

Btw to me the super slow D1 then less slow D2 and fast D3 signals that a lot of the game has been scum driven voices
Given we generally get the least info from D1 and even if N_M got voted out D2 rushing those days is still super helpful to scum
Anyway bbl

[Marquis]

Im in pain and have no motivation to convince ppl today which is an excuse but also the truth sorry
Most confident townreads are Elpis first followed by Andante
Forgot Elpis was in the game earlier lol
Also forgot STD died
But most confident scumread is Norwegian followed by Ceph
VOTE: Norwegian
Gonna leave that there

[Marquis]

wanna know what gimli and ceph think about lim vs no lim

[Marquis]

your scumread on me doesnt really come off as believable lol but maybe im just conf biasing
thought process doesnt feel genuine it feels much more like "marquis has been low activity -> todays push has been selected"

[Marquis]

wanna know what gimli and ceph think about lim vs no lim

will wait for opinions on this and take it from there