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VOTE: brickwall

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i'm so happy

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Don’t you equate me with dancing penguins who can’t think for themselves. I am not mumble.

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somebody hasn't seen happy feet

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i don't have thoughts beyond

- happy there are two decent wagons this earlier
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- lol frogster thinks can alignment read me earlier than pooky or skitter

atm

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yeah - i saw it.

i don't really have ai thoughts on it as aforementioned

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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sorry your intuition is on the fritz

maybe get that checked or something

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I feel that is obvious given how I play and the votecount at the top of the page and if you can't figure that out based on those two things stop pretending you can read me

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less happy with that votecount but furtive is helping so

ty

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People have also been forming Townreads or actually trying to solve more than you have so far.

I have?

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frogsterking with a lot of busy work, probscum.

brickwall sharing their life story most definitely scum.

furtive making conversation all game also scum.

VOTE: furtive

by reading this post and not voting for scum you are... also scum.

why not push the larger scum wagon instead of starting a new one...both scum in your opinion, no?

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fair enough

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disagree - wagons are good for information!

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I do.

do you have one you are willing to share?

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because then who would be competing against it?

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plus you stole the pagetop

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VOTE: furtive

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happy with the votecount again

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I'm tempted to Town NM's entrance, do you think I'm making a terrible mistake? It's my intention to go 3/3 in my scum reads about halfway through D1.

you're tempted to townread something that nm does in every game ever?

you're kinda weird this game

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uh...that was enchant mimicking nm...not nm voting enchant.

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nm did his same entry voting himself that he always done and spamming miltanks is also commonplace

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I didn't mimic NM.

NM repeated me. Not other way around.

I was first.

I don't really want to go searching through site history but you are objectively wrong unless you add the qualifier "in this game"

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VOTE: nm

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welp - guess i don't get to keep pushing on that

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The lycanfire slot is not Town.

I agree with this. Maybe not anything else. But I do agree with this.

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Why is everyone coming out of the woodwork to say lycanfire is scum but no one is voting

I was until I didn't have someone to push anymore

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oh...i wasn't....

i dreamed that...i dreamed about mafia...oh no

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Ceph - how does it feel to be scum?

two or three sentences pls

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average mafia enjoyer

i am quite average, ty.

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oh - 150px avatar...i can't scumread that

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That was more than 3 sentences

indeed.

i won't be reading it

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i'm listening to it though

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i am currently moderately okay with the votecount

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VOTE: cephrir

you're bad

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i'm the snarky spam poster. get your own gimmick

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ugh...i don't think ceph is scum anymore

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VOTE: enchant

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VOTE: Dionysus

I'm not feeling Ceph now...i'll give you a new counterwagon though

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But seriously if you’re Town you need to start putting in more effort.

You want to say i am not efforting?

You aren't tbf - even measured against other experiences with you.

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You're what we call and unreliable source...

for multiple reasons

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I meant specifically wrt assessing yourself, not overall

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How are you trying?

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I meant specifically wrt assessing yourself, not overall

don't like this

why should enchant be read by their unreliability in assessing themselves? (?????)

seems like word salad for the sake of framing to me

Are you feigning the ability to not comprehend words?

here ya go in an easy-to-digest version:

i say "enchant no do stuff"
enchant say "nuh-uh, i do stuff"
i say "what enchant say about enchant unreliable"
enchant say "why try if unreliable"
i say "i only talk about what enchant say about self not what enchant say about others"

that help? do I need to use smaller words?

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sorry, "feigning" mean "are you faking"

just in case you aren't

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I meant specifically wrt assessing yourself, not overall

don't like this

why should enchant be read by their unreliability in assessing themselves? (?????)

seems like word salad for the sake of framing to me

Are you feigning the ability to not comprehend words?

here ya go in an easy-to-digest version:

i say "enchant no do stuff"
enchant say "nuh-uh, i do stuff"
i say "what enchant say about enchant unreliable"
enchant say "why try if unreliable"
i say "i only talk about what enchant say about self not what enchant say about others"

that help? do I need to use smaller words?

You're being obtuse.

The entire premise of your supposition is that Enchant isn't trying, this is you belief plastered onto their conduct, and when they counter this your only retort is 'you are unreliable, therefore my initial point stands and what I'm saying is right because I said you're unreliable'

therefore

word salad for the sake of framing.

Enchant is, in fact, trying. There Alchemist vote, them sticking with it, is more effort me or Dionysus have done in a while.

So basically: You're bad cos I say you're bad enchant, and whatever you say back is wrong, cos I say you're unreliabe.

try harder water bird

I don't have a suspicion. <---There it's on record!

I want Enchant to participate...like I said.

Keep making shit up.

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Please explain in boogawooga language

Pengu is big heap looking for excuse to make big heap trouble for you after you voted alchemist

I'm debating voting alchemist myself so this is also untrue...KEEP MAKING SHIT UP!

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Eiralox either has the brain cell count of a prokaryote or is scum failing really hard and crafting a false narrative...unsure which

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good to know

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thanks for your presence

it's been immensely valuable and i cannot await your return

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Please explain in boogawooga language

Pengu is big heap looking for excuse to make big heap trouble for you after you voted alchemist

I'm debating voting alchemist myself so this is also untrue...KEEP MAKING SHIT UP!

Because you think I’m scum or for vca reasons?

oh it's day 1 and I'm penguin...it's why I'm waiting for a votecount

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lycan was one of those rare d1 things i actually have something to grab but then ceph repped in and killed that so I'm back to my typical modus operandi (eiralox, that means my usual method of operating or functioning).

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just covering my basis so i don't get accused of word salad again

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hmmm...i'll say it was earned. hard to snipe a spam mod.

congrats

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VOTE: T3

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maybe?

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std knows ceph...pretty well...if that what you're getting at

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thanks for the welcome wagon love

I also need you to elaborate why you sr me. Have a good day cute stuff

Hey love you don't need to talk to him

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Eiralox either has the brain cell count of a prokaryote or is scum failing really hard and crafting a false narrative...unsure which

i think they're town

idk im biased but it's hard for me to see eir/csf as scum right now because they could have easily gotten away with voting me out

maybe - but i have a hard time believing town unintentionally misunderstood and then doubled-down like that.

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i have to imagine once you started making comments about his intelligence he would probably get stubborn regardless of alignment

fair

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Enchant is trying more than you are

lol - you live in some delusional universe

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I have them as "literally null" if that makes you feel better.

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good

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okay Eiralox & Penguin may have surpassed Frogs & Ceph for dumbest TvT in this game

tyvm...i try

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intent to vote alchemist

jfc

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You ruined my pagetop vote

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things too quiet

well - no one is giving me a pagetop

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guess i have to pull a mod

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VOTE: alchemist

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now we just wait for nm

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you're obnoxious

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there it is

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6/10 on the tag line at the end but...oh well.

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VOTE: Eiralox
I really don't like the way they positioned themself around the Alchemist wagon. There was no attempt to read Alchemist, and the only time Eiralox even mentions Alchemist when he was being voted was to say that "we should give Alchemist a chance."

This all happened as Eiralox fluffed the thread and put a vanity vote on Penguin.

tempting

so very tempting

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VOTE: enchant

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that's nm's e-1 btw

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why do you think that is?

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here you go

word of warning - it requires not being able to correctly parse the english language to understand

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eiralox is voting ceph so it's not really full overreaction omgus

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i mean - you saw their interpretation and doubling down of my post. I think it's quite possible eiralox does believe things that rational people do not.

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Oh boy….

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Can I?

That’s…that’s not how that retort works…

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VOTE: Cephrir

Eiralox, you better be going somewhere with this... that's E-2 on Cephrir, please declare intent to E-1 before hammering

Mmmm….why?

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Using frogs as a reason applies similarly to Ceph so….

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Cephrir - the hot take - I think his emotion towards Frogs is genuine. How he reacted has only damaged his position in the game. That can be a scum fuck up sure, but I think it's unlikely that Cephrir in particular misplays that this poorly as scum. To Alchemist's point about waiting for Enchant to produce more content before meta'ing him, Ceph was actively getting wagoned; there's kind of a need to produce content faster than usual when you're under pressure.

okay Eiralox & Penguin may have surpassed Frogs & Ceph for dumbest TvT in this game

A lot less actually.

It started feeling like Cephrir felt like he had no backup, and I thought it might be that his teammates were just absent or didn’t care.

As more people chimed in though, I figured that could only be true if the team was exactly Cephrir, Brickwall, and NM. I did have some suspicion on Brickwall but my read hinged on the response they provided. Not enough people make sense as a partner.

When was this? I remember defending Cephrir soon after you said you were feeling confident in him flipping scum

where did the scum read come from?

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VOTE: Cephrir

Eiralox, you better be going somewhere with this... that's E-2 on Cephrir, please declare intent to E-1 before hammering

Mmmm….why?

Might as well be explicit, Eira do you have a guilty on Ceph y/n?

more clear

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that's amazing and i need you to explain that

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Why I think Eiralox is town? I've modded a scumgame of his somewhat recently, and he fit the profile of a passive/lurky scum player. He feels more spontaneous and relaxed here. I think it's unlikely that he has leveled up his scumgame in such a short amount of time.

well I certainly disagree with your assessment here

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sure - but they've doubled down and gone incomprehensive while pushing elsewhere and lining up a chain

that's certainly ai to me

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you are ignoring a lot of posts with that assessment

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pretty much everything i was referring to after "double down" in my statement above

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lol - that is a disingenuous interpretation in favor of eiralox and you are still ignoring everything else since that I've referred to.

thanks - but I'm done discussing with you after that.

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I'm not sure of your experience on how scum pushes chains on town...but this wasn't predicated on anything...

Oh shit!

Frogster died....

Calculating......

VOTE: Cephrir

Then we get PenguinPower.

And then.... we get the deepwolf.

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you seem to have an extremely charitable view of eiralox that I don't get at all and is not warranted by their posting in this game

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at best you are being naive and I don't think you are given my experience with you

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Why do you think Ceph is scum?

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you - i thought that was fairly clear but I'll start unnecessarily quoting the post directly prior to mine to enhance clarity moving forward

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makes me happy with my vote then.

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scum don't deserve to be happy

sorry

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if we weren't in the normal queue i would actually believe you!

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Facts are merely a fiction of perception.

Why are you voting for me

I mean - it's quite obvious....because you're a black dragon entity who attempted to hijack those with Azurite memories on Gaia by running the Red Nile Cube coding in their target’s lightbody.

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NM > Enchant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eiralox

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your lack of reading comprehension continues to astound

keep up the good work clown account #3

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Might as well be explicit, Eira do you have a guilty on Ceph y/n?

Easy Y/N question for you...

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mmhmm

Y/N? For cat scratch, not for me.

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continue to ignore actually responding to anything asked...it's a great way to play a team game.

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Might as well be explicit, Eira do you have a guilty on Ceph y/n?

Easy Y/N question for you...

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I guess I get the thinking it's a guilty so hopefully he'll get in here and clear that up

If you're going to outright sheep someone just because you think they're town may I suggest the dead townies

i didn't understand this post btw

csf said that she assumed clown #3 had a guilty and was sheeping. ceph said he understood the sheeping for that reason and maybe clown #3 will get in here and clear that up (spoiler: clown #3 does not, rather intentionally ignores). ceph's last statement implies sheeping dead townies is better (because you know they are town whereas you could be wrong about clown #3) so if you're going to sheep consider doing that.

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It's what they're doing to push your vote through, Enchant: Sheeping a dead town.

Might as well be explicit, Eira do you have a guilty on Ceph y/n?

Easy Y/N question for you...

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Is T3 scum?

I don't know.

Might as well be explicit, Eira do you have a guilty on Ceph y/n?

Easy Y/N question for you...

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Guilty on who

Ceph.

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Is Cephrir scum?

I answered yours. You don't get two in a row. Your turn.

Might as well be explicit, Eira do you have a guilty on Ceph y/n?

Easy Y/N question for you...

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Guilty on who

Ceph.

So Ceph thinks there's guilty on them.

So he has something to be guilty for?

Look at the post I just quoted again for like the 10th time. CSF assumed the guilty on Ceph.

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VOTE: eiralox

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if you aren't going to answer questions then I'd rather you not exist in this game regardless of alignment

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you've been making shit up since day 1 and it continues

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you are an insufferable clown

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This entire thing was, as Enchant so wisely saw, a reaction test.

til trolling = reaction test in enchant speak.

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also bullshit.

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VOTE: enchant

giving me hope of a better world just to yank it away...sad

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sick burn

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you cant just change your reads every 2 posts

You've made the mistake that you know them.

Don't make it again.

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My only super real read now is on Dionysus.

Dare I ask...

Care to explain why?

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mmm...i resonate with that tbh

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VOTE: enchant

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No.

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And I don’t mean that as in “No, I won’t” I mean it as “No I can’t and I’m not strongly townreading Ceph”

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It would be difficult to persuade me to join ceph’s wagon today.

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boy this thread died.

should eiralox and i becomes mortal enemies again?

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I don't think he's really trying to understand the mindset of T3, which is scummy. He's just pointing out something that T3 did. Do you disagree?

why you no vote?

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sure is hard to push enchant to e-1

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I think like 1-2 do.

Who?

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i will sap every single drop of productive discussion from today before i vote enchant

why are you so strongly townreading enchant?

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...then why the hyperbole about voting enchant?

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Cool - what do you want to do now?

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i'll give you that...it was 11 seconds

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nm's e-1 to be clear

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NM not hammering would be indicative. I would have to search for it, but I've seen him not hammer a partner within the past yearish.

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enchant is really hard to push to e-1

i feel like a broken record

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you're on nm's e-1 and a player not voting you has asked you to claim

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lol comparing me to enchant or nm

you got really defensive really fast...why is that?

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you are forgiven

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Yeah that won't fly by me. At this point you're a camper with little to no game presence, no actual input or analysis. You offer less than Dionysus or Brickwall.

oh no, how dare i not make a post in the past 5 pages (((

have you had a chance to sort your reads?

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you aren't looking hard enough

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i'm actually not sure that i do...

but

VOTE: dionysus

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If more than half insist then ok

+1 give your results

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hi - you can give results now

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Thanks for repping in for me FB…I’m playing on alts from now on.

Gg, and thanks for modding!

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i think u would have handled this last day better than me though. Sorry u had to replace out

I would have probably pushed enchant and furtive, but would have needed to be convinced on Ceph.

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I mean - that’s why you don’t vote in Elo until you’re ready to end it.

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Oh I know you were. Just commenting to dragoneater.

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Penguin can i report the scum team for voting when i go to the bathroom. I think they used hacks to spy on me to know i was in the loo

I’ll investigate this immediately.

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Alianna who is in that game?

me...on my alt

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ohh if he is talking about a bg who takes out the attempted killer with him, ive literally never seen that

here you go