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I think this post would be better if you found a way to use the word simpleIn post 3139, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:In post 3135, Gamma Emerald wrote:My issue is not whether it was balanced
The design philosophy on that game feels nonexistent
the game is designed to be a reflection of a complex moving world where choices intersect and interact with each other in unpredictable ways.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I'm not going to complain about the setup because my play in this game sucked hard but I think like
This setup was fine but not what I wanted when I signed up for a mini normal I guess? I think this would have made a fun mini theme. It seemed kind of scumsided but that's a matter of personal taste and maybe in another run people will call it townsided. I think with all the simple and complex roles, a lot basically comes down to chance. I think the simple vig is a bit trolly because it can't shoot maf but unlike a loyal vig can't play around that because it doesn't know, but I don't have a fundamental problem with anything else I guess. I complained about my role but it was kind of funny I have to admitNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I mean that's fair but I don't think there's any way any of us could have put that together
Maybe dats cos he knows you really well and is an NRG member but even then he didn't seem to
W/ the simple vig, that's fair and it's not strictly negative utility but also like... Let the man shoot scums smh
Pedit: i mean, a doctor protecting a clear does not seem like the sort of thing the nrg would not pass in a normal game? maybe that's just my lack of knowledge but I don't see how I'm supposed to know any of thisNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Like
I have tried looking at setup reviews that have been released
I still don't really get what assumptions I'm supposed to make.
It kind of feels like sometimes players are expected to make assumptions and if that's accounted for in the balance, but there are also setups which try to punish players for outguessing the mod with curveballs? Like idk. Maybe I'm just an idiot who doesn't get it.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I mean maybe I overestimated the power of a traitor jailkeeper but I didn't feel it was that weak. I also felt like the clears were extremely situational because in this game none of them fired. Is that my fault? Maybe, idk, but I'm not really sure how to get better at setup spec. I've tried looking at what seems to be the only public resource for it. Idk.In post 3151, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it's fine for a doctor+cop to work together in such a way
but you already have 2 dead vigilantes and 1 dead friendly neighbor.
usually towns do not have 5 useful PRs in a game where they are against a mafia team of 2 plus a traitor.
Also like if scum had a different power role instead of the double invest thing scamper had I feel like that'd make a simple doc viable but again like idkNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I mean I agree that it's not like nearly as powerful as a full scum jailkeeper but like... It still seems pretty powerful as a role capable of completely neutering power roles? Maybe that's just my brain seeing the word jailkeeper and overestimating it, but like, I don't think it's that much worse than a goon? Especially since it's immune to both of the vigs
I agree it's hard to setup spec in normals and idk. I don't think I could ever have found Johnny just by setup spec personally but that could just be me.
Again I don't really want to complain about the setup and wouldn't feel confident in my judgement of balance to do so anyway so ehNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I mean sure but I'm not sure how to approach this as a player? Like, I don't think there's much way to tell if you're playing a game where you're supposed to setup spec or not?In post 3173, mastina wrote:No, no, you have it!
In some setups you are meant to assume for balance; in other setups, you are punished for outguessing the mod. That's mod-dependent.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I mean yeah I'm just wondering like what the best course of action is
Like do you try anyway and just take the L if the mod was fucking with expectations or do you just not do it and take the L if you just hampered yourself and made the setup scumsided as intendedNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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While I can't speak for everyone, personally I feel like that would be a sacrifice worth making? I mean, I think there's a lot of claimspace in normals anyway and I don't think people would actually believe my claim nearly as much if the rest of the setup was actually simple.
The only negative I can think of is that it's difficult to draw the line between simple and complex. I think having an unknown tag would mitigate that, so maybe it's a good idea.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.
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