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VOTE: Uncle Vanya

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VOTE: Uncle Vanya

Nice..

Love the creativity..

I'm saving it for later.

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The worst of the votes on you is the guy MM just voted, interestingly enough.

Vanya's vote looks worse to me; sure it's earlier but it actually has some merit as an attempt to push the wagon forward
geraintm's isolated vote that doesn't seem to be made as such an attempt looks better to me.
though I think geraintm is scummier than Vanya?
I think the vote post itself looks worse for Vanya but further posts from geraintm muddies their alignment

How is mine even bad. Self-voting is always anti-town.

Statements like this concern me.

Why.

Among Us lobby vibes

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The worst of the votes on you is the guy MM just voted, interestingly enough.

Vanya's vote looks worse to me; sure it's earlier but it actually has some merit as an attempt to push the wagon forward
geraintm's isolated vote that doesn't seem to be made as such an attempt looks better to me.
though I think geraintm is scummier than Vanya?
I think the vote post itself looks worse for Vanya but further posts from geraintm muddies their alignment

How is mine even bad. Self-voting is always anti-town.

Statements like this concern me.

Why.

Among Us lobby vibes

Explain?

Flat responses and a blank "Why." just took me back to it since it was the most basic scum tell in that game.

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Why me fry me was pretty common on EM as well
I agree that it’s a solid newb tell, though can ya being an alt confounds a bit

Vanya being an alt but doing basic scum tells and coming off as reserved/restrained feels off to me. It could be an intentional playstyle choice, which I'd actually consider it a town tell if so. Otherwise though I think Vanya could just be frozen scum.

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I do find it interesting that there's a bit of dogpiling on Vanya right now but not much follow up with actual votes. After a quick skim, I only see two votes there.

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Y'all spew "stubborn is subjective!", then two lines later start sprinkling scummotives on top of it anyway.

It could be an intentional playstyle choice, which I'd actually consider it a town tell if so. Otherwise though I think Vanya could just be frozen scum.

i am hurting lmfao

like idgaf about vanya its just the irony that pains me

This may be a goodplace to look back to on a later day to get a better scope of the players who are speaking now once we have some flips later on.

this is the only hope i have for it honestly. First day wagons are supposed to be reachy anyway ig.

Why does it bother you so much?

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Why does it bother you so much?

its like hearing a faint alarm bell but not knowing where tf its coming from. I mean, yeah im probably overreacting. maybe projecting cuz scum me would hop in on an comfy echo chamber like this in an instant. idk man.

Alright, makes sense. I was expecting a more LAMIST response, so I'm leaning town for you now.

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I feel like Vanya is trying to lurk out the pressure on him, but with 24 hour prod timers it'll be a bit difficult.

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Titus has been prodded as well as her 128 is not game advancing content

Oh damn, I kinda like this

Though NM is screwed if he replaces in at some point lmao

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I feel like Vanya is trying to lurk out the pressure on him, but with 24 hour prod timers it'll be a bit difficult.

Hmm that could be the case, I suppose.
I think with the way Vanya responded to pressure, they could be wanting to avoid attention on them and just let momentum dissipate.
(bless the 24 hour prod timers )

however, I don't know if this is an assumption to make just based on someone just not posting for a while.
i like to assume scum are actually yknow, trying to play the game?
losing to lurkscum sounds lame
maybe i have too much faith though, it's a fairly common tactic isn't it?

One of the worst feelings is losing to a scum team that didn't do anything while town cannibalized themself all game

It is a pretty common tactic to just lurk out early pressure, but tbh it almost always works. I almost never see initial wagons stick unless that player reacts really really badly.

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Question of the day, if a player makes a vote but no one takes it serious. Did that person really make a vote?

Hello, everyone. This is my first game on this forum.

I don't really get why this intro is so scummy, honestly.
like yes, this isn't very game advancing content; more thorough thoughts on the game would be nice. The lack of it looks a bit bad
But the "question of the day" reads more like a townie thought than a scummy one.
dunno if scum opens like that
overall i feel pretty neutral on Moose
I'm interested on follow-up on that question of the day thing, why'd you say that, Moose?

Really liking this post. I'm getting the same vibes I got from you in Mini 2268.

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Titus has been prodded as well as her 128 is not game advancing content

Oh damn, I kinda like this

Though NM is screwed if he replaces in at some point lmao

This is weird, why would you have an opinion on a mod message? Are you happy Titus’ content didn’t count for some reason? Does the rule excite you?

And why envoke NM? I don’t get it. This prompted me to look at your iso and there isn’t much there.

This post is weird and reads as fake busy.

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I've explained all of those posts as I made them except for the mod one, but even that one should be obvious. I don't see the point of questioning me on why I like the idea of short prod timers after I just said how scum lurking out pressure is usually an effective strategy.

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It's how I play. I generally don't vote just for the sake for pressure unless it's late in the day. If this were 48 hours, I would have been on Vanya a few hours before day ended to pressure him to appear, but I generally don't vote people while I'm questioning them.

I kind of agree with whoever said they'd vig shoot Moose right now though. Not getting town vibes there at all.

...But he also has like 7 days to change my mind, and there's no value to splintering on him right now while both vote leaders are idling. I have no plans to let anyone idle out, but I find people tend to be vote happy and my conservative approach helps provide more stability.

My last full town game took 4 days and I placed 5 votes all game, two of them only because people tried to jedi mind trick themselves off the correct vote in the very last minutes of day 2 and 3. My last scum game took 5 days and I placed 3.

I remember all arguments I've made in any given game and don't contradict myself unless I'm desperate. Reading into the "why" and "when" of when I do vote is what's important for figuring me out.

...I do have a tendency to ramble and wall post when I'm posting from my phone at 3am. I don't even intend for it to happen, it just does.

Is there anything specific about me that you would justify a day one vig kill? Or just hunch.

It's one thing to vote/talk on a gut feeling versus trying to cast shade on someone in order to persuade a vig to use an action.

Your comments feels more like town brownie points attention than substance.

I find it highly amusing that the person who's given the least content all game calls out the person who's probably given the most based off of a half-lucid post she made at 3am where she rambled.

Really speaks to Moose not actually paying attention to the game.

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I have played on another forum, but this is my first time here. I have never played with any of you before. The other forum, mafia was just a sub-thread. My question of the day was mentioned was an ice breaker. The fact that some of you got deeply offended by my outrageous scum tell play (sarcasm, is just laughable. Hopefully, we can now move onto everyone's joke vote analysis

Trying to build a case out of that is showing vote hungriness, and those who partake are blinded by the fact that your desire for a elimination let you think an simple introduction is scummy.

Day one IS the most tiring day to be active in and add this precious advancement... Someone quote the number 5 most advancing statement about THIS game (not mafia), and see how much it really adds.

Regardless of MM vote on me, I would have to agree on his views

My bad feeling side is dwlee mainly because their focus seems to jump around a little quick. Not saying scummy, just bad feeling side, that is all.

I'd vote here.

Why aren't you?

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VOTE: monkeyman576

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If you want shit to happen then push your preferred wagon. Either that or compromise onto a different wagon for now. No one's gonna generate content in this game state unless there's a chance somebody might actually die soon.

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That's...certainly one way to claim that you're in a hood. Though that explains some of the things you've said so far.

Are you going to claim who's in it?

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I'd recommend claiming who's in it before the Day ends in case we have a PT Cop, so that they don't end up targeting someone in the hood and getting a false positive result.

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I’m going to sit back and watch this build up to get a better feel, before my next trick.

Just be careful here scum. Just a friendly warning..

Just cut the bullshit and claim your PR. You softed way too loudly for scum to actually jump on you at this point.

VOTE: Andres

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I’m going to sit back and watch this build up to get a better feel, before my next trick.

Just be careful here scum. Just a friendly warning..

Just cut the bullshit and claim your PR. You softed way too loudly for scum to actually jump on you at this point.

VOTE: Andres

Wasn’t softing, that whole exchange is me being mixed up…

Mixed up on what? Because to me it blatantly looks like you were trying to soft a PR when you started receiving some pressure.

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I agree with Rodan's assessment that he was obviously "softclaiming", but am perplexed as to why he'd bring it up so quickly, and even more perplexed as to why he'd immediately demand a claim.

It feels like it needed a lot more time to play out.

Claiming a PR under pressure is bad town play. Softing a PR to scare people away from pressuring you is scummy play.

If Scorpius actually wanted to use his PR to catch scum in a trap, it would've been better to not say anything at all so that scum could feel confident in actually voting him. As it is now, there's nothing we can analyze about his wagon. So instead we have to figure out if he just misplayed his PR, used his PR to avoid dealing with suspicion, or faked a PR soft to stop his wagon from forming.

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But the intent is to stop town from voting him.

Basically this, but he won't admit he did this and is now pretending he never tried to soft anything and that I'm role fishing for pointing it out. Interestingly enough, he isn't accusing anyone else of doing the same thing even though multiple people have pointed it out as well.

@Scorpius:

Scum aren't stupid, they know that you softed a PR regardless of whether or not anyone points it out. So you need to explain why you tried to take it back afterwards.

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VOTE: monkeyman

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Joins game
Attacks anyone who looks at them
Refuses to explain anything
Asks to die

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I play better when I have actual information to work off of.

What is this in reference to?

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UNVOTE:

Hood members need to claim first to avoid potential false guilties from a PT Cop.

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On some level I can understand Monkey's frustration regardless of his alignment, it sucks to be scum read for reasons you don't think are even remotely good on Day 1. I've had a couple games where that kind of shit has happened and it immediately soured my attitude and made me not want to play.

However I don't think Monkey got treated particularly unfairly here? He consistently had bad reactions to everything and folded under pressure any time someone asked him a question. Even when we give him a chance to play by backing off some of the pressure, he just...doesn't. I feel like he's been around long enough to play off suspicion better than this.

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Titus is probably town for being uncooperative.

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Titus is probably town for being uncooperative.

Disagree with this take - kinda just made a similar mistake with mathblade in a game.

I'm not necessarily town locking her, her behavior and play this game so far just seems similar to how she was in GnG Upick, and is consistent with past town games in general. I do want to see her progression past Day 1 though since she hasn't done much yet.

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Yeah, that's what an OMGUS is, it means you'd rather attack your attacker rather than genuinley scumhunt.

Use this as a parameter.

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GG

I town read all three scum Day 1 lol, kinda surprised I got killed