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[Enchant]

Hi

I didn't read anything.

[Enchant]

Hi

I didn't read anything.

Ok
I give you two hours to read everything.
We are very close to deadline.

Ok i readed.

[Enchant]

I think this is not s-s.

[Enchant]

who can you confidently read in this playerlist, Echant? and what do you think about their ISO? one is enough from you, but more than one is better.

Who the hell is Echant

[Enchant]

Who the hell is Echant

who can you confidently read in this playerlist, Enchant? and what do you think about their ISO? one is enough from you, but more than one is better.

Myself count?

It's really case per case.

[Enchant]

i guess i really just want to get a better read of your slot before i decide to rally for your wagon. but i understand you dont want to cooperate.

It's not i don't want to cooperate, it's just i really don't have some secrets keys from someone soul.

[Enchant]

okay gotcha

are you planning to read everything or what do you need to get you started on the game

I read game already (Lie) and playing.

Day 1 mostly worthess blabberring anyway.

[Enchant]

lol so how do you decide who to vote

Depends.
Why Gamma voted you anyway?

[Enchant]

It was town Meuh.

Meuh!scum never antogonise me into hammer.

[Enchant]

Oh i am also in this game.

Hey!

[Enchant]

I had history with Dwlee99 fakeclaiming from start of game as mafia, so i am not really surprised.

[Enchant]

@Roden: I'm trying to think of why DkKoba would serve themselves up as (almost guaranteed to be) one of two people who will be voted out today, or if Dwlee flips town, that they would be certainly voted out tomorrow, come up with something else that doesn't paint a guaranteed target on their back, or do easier pushes on others (barring both DkKoba and Dwlee are scum together and DkKoba wants to get themselves confirmed from this Day). Coming into this Day, DkKoba wasn't likely to be on the list of easy chopping block choices (compared to first instance, lurkers, or Gamma/Enchant, or even HEM possibly still being a play).

There is an explanation.
That koba

cannot endgame

. That koba is a traitor.
The correct mechanical play if we cannot identify the scum is to lim koba. Koba can be a traitor. Dwlee is confirmed not traitor.
If we are wrong on koba we can at least lim one main scum. The other way around things look bleaker.

What we must do this day is to NOT end it quickly but to intensly question both players in this 1v1 about many things, especially about what happened in their hood.

Most idiotic thing in this thread.

[Enchant]

You suggesting to kill investigator on off chance on him being traitor.

[Enchant]

how about we flip enchant and leave the question of both person's alignment to night 2's mercy? especially since enchant has declared a hard stance on koba vs dwlee (siding with koba). what's the worst thing that could happen?

Um.

I flip town, Roden dies, and you stuck with same situation, but with one less elim?

[Enchant]

I flip town, Roden dies, and you stuck with same situation, but with one less elim?

yep.

you're a slot i think will flip scum tho.

why should i townread you?

Why you should't townread me?

[Enchant]

My pfp still cute.

[Enchant]

Roden is confirmed town, but not pink heared anime girl.

PARADOX?

[Enchant]

soo simple doc is unfalsiable if scumz nk on pr-claims

DkKuba said Dwlee claimed Roaming Doctor, not Simple one.

Quess why Dwlee could have changed claim if scum.

[Enchant]

Unvote

as I don't want this Day ending early when we have seven days to get more information

Ok.

Call me when you end with this ok?

[Enchant]

Traitor is still scum.

[Enchant]

Actually makes sense.

Why you would do that as maf.

[Enchant]

human believes Kuba traitor but doesh't vote, tbh.

[Enchant]

Do you want to torture me with boredooooooom.

[Enchant]

What is popcorn

[Enchant]

I slept, i slept well and now i have urge to believe Dwlee99...

Nightmares.

[Enchant]

Why Dwlee would start day from voting you and claiming you was silent?

[Enchant]

Did Dwlee99 claim Roaming Doctor, and why he even claim to you in hood? Did you torture him?

[Enchant]

Honestly i believe in this more.

Like...
M.

Does Koba even remains silent as any alignment?

Don't torture me.

VOTE: Dwlee99

[Enchant]

Koba is shitposter, being silent for week is simple out of character.

[Enchant]

Did any of you even bother to read the game I linked? Am I just doomed to be mislimmed by Koba everytime they roll scum?

Only linked page.

Let's just say, if you somehow happened to be elimmed by Koba, it doesh't prove anything here.

[Enchant]

Honestly i believe in this more.

Like...
M.

Does Koba even remains silent as any alignment?

Don't torture me.

VOTE: Dwlee99

enter my dungeon

My is better.

[Enchant]

Well.

There's way to cheat to prove.

But i am not in mood in cheating...

But...

[Enchant]

Quoting is directly against rules...

[Enchant]

But "Paraphrasing"...


So therefore, if Kuba paraphrase every post we will most likely discover legimitity of this.

[Enchant]

But after looking... I think it still breaks rules.

Need to clarify from mod.

[Enchant]

Down to the hour and minute as well if possible.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=88682

[Enchant]

No, it was to fake spew Dwlee as town. I faked a slip to draw attention away from my scum buddies and create fake associatives with town. I mainly did so because my slot was doomed even if I bussed Dwlee, but it wasn't true the other way around.

This isn't happening with you vs Dwlee because you both opened today attacking each other. If Dwlee is scum I think it's reasonable to think they would try to fake spew.

Meant to add: who would benefit from pushing Dwlee now?

Town?

[Enchant]

No, it was to fake spew Dwlee as town. I faked a slip to draw attention away from my scum buddies and create fake associatives with town. I mainly did so because my slot was doomed even if I bussed Dwlee, but it wasn't true the other way around.

This isn't happening with you vs Dwlee because you both opened today attacking each other. If Dwlee is scum I think it's reasonable to think they would try to fake spew.

Meant to add: who would benefit from pushing Dwlee now?

Town?

[Enchant]

When Koba said that Dwlee claimed Roaming Doctor, i remembered game where Dwlee really got Roaming Doctor.

There's noticed pattern, where maf claims roles they received early as town.

[Enchant]

We have 5 days to jump around and flip Dwlee anyway in the end.

[Enchant]

Koba claims Rolecop and that Dwlee is Neibor, but claimed Roaming Doctor in hood beforehand.

Dwlee claims it's lie and there's no talk or claims in hood altogether.

[Enchant]

Yes Dwlee is scum. Enchant is also scum, GL agreed as much in the Mason PT. HEM pointed out Enchant's hesitance to put Meuh at E-1, and GL said that town!Enchant wouldn't give a shit.

The reason GL died and not me is because I was tunneled on HEM while GL set him aside as town. Scum wanted me to go after HEM today. That's also why Gamma switched to rallying for a HEM elim near EoD. Gamna also has a history of replacing out as scum under pressure. There's just too many points against the slot.

I wanted to bait out the final scum by seeing who would rally with me to kill Koba but that got fucking ruined.

Why is

Enchant

scum?

Because i am eeeeeeeevil

[Enchant]

No, wait. I mean, if

Dwlee99

was something else aside of Neighbor, the Rolecop surely would have seen this as well?

For instance, the result would be "Neighbor Roaming Doctor" and not just "Neighbor"?

Yes, that's reason.

Just in a case, Dwlee99 claims Simple Doctor now, and that he targeted...
.. well this guy who died, lazy to look, he was mason.

[Enchant]

No, wait. I mean, if

Dwlee99

was something else aside of Neighbor, the Rolecop surely would have seen this as well?

For instance, the result would be "Neighbor Roaming Doctor" and not just "Neighbor"?

Yes, that's reason.

Just in a case, Dwlee99 claims Simple Doctor now, and that he targeted...
.. well this guy who died, lazy to look, he was mason.

Oh, well, this is quite straightforward then.

VOTE: Dwlee99

I think this is E-1.

Simple Doctor fails on Not-Vanilla. And mason... Is mason.

So Dwlee is scum, but not for reason you just got.

[Enchant]

Also Roden claims future nightkill (Mason)

[Enchant]

So they are nightkilled instead?

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

[Enchant]

What suspects if we choosing between Dwlee/Koba

[Enchant]

What suspects if we choosing between Dwlee/Koba

You.

You are not suspect, you are Mason.

Stop being silly.

Simple Doctor fails on Not-Vanilla. And mason... Is mason.

So Dwlee is scum, but not for reason you just got.

But... if

Dwlee99

's claim was true - that he's a Simple Doctor, and he tried to protect a Mason it would have failed anyway?

Which would make the claim true? I suppose that if he's scum, it would have been better to claim that they protected someone else?

I mean, sometimes players lie about their roles as town. But the Rolecop would have known if they had any other ability than Neighbor. Which makes this a claim vs. claim thing. I think that's enough to eliminate

Dwlee99

and go from there.

As i said, my bet on Dwlee. I have some urges to vote Koba, but just...

[Enchant]

my sympathies 2 people wanting extensive interaction, but i just wanna do the obv mechplay here

Why's that the obv mechplay?

when there is a guilty, yeet the guilty.

looks like i misunderstood the question and answered the 'what' instead of the 'why'.
'why' is cause 1v1 trades are bad for scum wincon (cause they are a minority), so it's unlikely they will initiate one.

Actually, not really.

Accuse town > Town dies.
Nightkill Town.
Get Scum lim.
Nightkill Town.


3 Town for 1 Scum.

[Enchant]

Not Neighborizer. Neighbor. These are two different roles. Apologies.

Anyways, Rolecop should know the whole role and apparently

Dwlee99

is a Neighbor. Why is there so much doubt in this game about this?

People fear that Koba is traitor faking guilty to get Dwlee down.

[Enchant]

ShadowGirl.

Do you objectively believe Koba even shut up even as mafia?

[Enchant]

I mostly point at scum and scream "It's scum". Pretty working.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Dwlee99

Hummer!

[Enchant]

Smells Salsa.

[Enchant]

marci scumclaimed.

[Enchant]

Meah dies: OH NO WHY NOOOO
Neibor NK15 dies: Who was it

[Enchant]

wow so evil

[Enchant]

If this is SK, we are effectively in ELO.

If we elim wrong and two town die, we probably simple lose due parity and it turns in kingmaker.

[Enchant]

I didn't read anything as well.

[Enchant]

nooooooooooo

[Enchant]

nooooooooooo

I caught u, admit it

I claim 0-Shot Cop.

[Enchant]

One with half conftowns voting naked on random people, what a way.

[Enchant]

No, what is it?

[Enchant]

Well, not against purge of anime avatars.

VOTE: ShadowGirl

[Enchant]

You did nothing, but stale wagon.

[Enchant]

I read rules for mini and no, SK can't exist here.

[Enchant]

The game should have at least one Mafia or Werewolf group (of at least two members). In mini games (at most 13 players), there must be exactly one such group, with no third parties. In large games (at least 14 players), a second anti-town group can be given a separate Mafia family name, or can be a Werewolf group, and there should be no more than two mafia/werewolf factions, and no more than one Serial Killer.

[Enchant]

You are on E-1.

[Enchant]

Nice try.

[Enchant]

no u

[Enchant]

Actually it looks like some foresight from Dwlee, and i questioned it as well.

[Enchant]

Like, if Kuba dies, Dwlee looks confirmed, and vice versa.

[Enchant]

I agree, hoods suck.

[Enchant]

I was in one where it happened and we DESTROYED town.

It was theme game thou normal.
Most important to remember: Nomal doesn't forbid full scum or full town hoods.

[Enchant]

How you explain Dwlee foresight then?

I for example can't predict like "HMMM I FEEL KOBA HAVE GUILTY ON ME, SO I LIE AND FORCE 1VS1."

[Enchant]

Nevermind that accusing Koba for petty reasons is like licking uranium bomb.

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

Need to think

[Enchant]

On other hand.

So Koba really can't even perform normal bus

[Enchant]

But Roden claimed publically.

Mafia simple didn't shot him.

[Enchant]

I think it's opposite and gives point's instead.

[Enchant]

Idk i am not on like people with long reads and reasonings why they vote, just for sake of kill of blatant maf.

[Enchant]

Because Dwlee was blatant evil for everyone who can answer "2+2"

Also answer is 5.

[Enchant]

Well ye

[Enchant]

I honestly idk at this point.

[Enchant]

Obviously?

Otherwise why he warning about INTENT TO PUT ON E-1

[Enchant]

Because putting on E-1 is analog of sacrificing someone to holy cow.

And now it depends, if cow hungry or not.

Mostly cow hungry.

[Enchant]

It's sacred ritual you can't understand.

[Enchant]

Aren't you tried to do so from d1 via claiming that Dwlee failed to answer on traitor bait.

[Enchant]

Why anyone would reveal self as Doctor, when Dwlee99 was blatant scum and dying like 99%

[Enchant]

Why anyone would reveal self as Doctor, when Dwlee99 was blatant scum and dying like 99%

I am confused by your question. I did a search and Dwlee claimed simple doctor.

What are you referring to?

Shadow said that Doctor would CC Dwlee if existed.

But there's no point in that.

[Enchant]

i want to lim in tictac or shadowgirl here

Why ShadowGirl? I am not seeing her as scummy.

Why not?

[Enchant]

i want to lim in tictac or shadowgirl here

Why ShadowGirl? I am not seeing her as scummy.

Why not?

Because she seems transparently Townie and one of the few people solving.

Of course, it's her head in risk of choping.

[Enchant]

Also about NM.

He mostly unvotes self if there's risk of elim or ELO.

[Enchant]

If i knew, i would already vote.

[Enchant]

Why anyone would reveal self as Doctor, when Dwlee99 was blatant scum and dying like 99%

I feel like that's a misrep of early D2, as there was a point even you believed Dwlee could be telling the truth. Obviously in hindsight it feels easy to say it was a sure thing by the end of the day, but that's not what the vibe was in the beginning of the day. Anyways, that was a sub point of my post, in that I was trying to understand why Roden would still be alive today over HEM. Why do you think Roden is still alive today, then?

I will get banned for that.

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Just in a case, i would shot Roden as scum. Obviously.

[Enchant]

Why anyone would reveal self as Doctor, when Dwlee99 was blatant scum and dying like 99%

I feel like that's a misrep of early D2, as there was a point even you believed Dwlee could be telling the truth. Obviously in hindsight it feels easy to say it was a sure thing by the end of the day, but that's not what the vibe was in the beginning of the day. Anyways, that was a sub point of my post, in that I was trying to understand why Roden would still be alive today over HEM. Why do you think Roden is still alive today, then?

I will get banned for that.

Confused why would you get banned for answering a question?

Family friendly version: He not competent.

[Enchant]

That is factually incorrect. Roden is very competent. He’s one of the few players that almost caught me deep wolfing in a prior game. I have not seen a Roden incompetent game.

Then why we don't just sheep him.

[Enchant]

That is factually incorrect. Roden is very competent. He’s one of the few players that almost caught me deep wolfing in a prior game. I have not seen a Roden incompetent game.

Then why we don't just sheep him.

Because great skill doesn’t always mean right.

Based on the reactions it’s no longer elo and likely only two scum alive.

What team in game then you thinking?

[Enchant]

Well look.

Roden conf.
Koba... Hell i know, Koba, let's assume conf for now.
Me is Me, of course.

So remains...
You
Not_Mafia
Tictac
Shadow

2/3 for you, 2/4 for me.

[Enchant]

If you suspect me, i am kinda open to talk.

[Enchant]

Math claimed Vig?

Well it easies a bit, then probably Shadow+NM?

[Enchant]

Math claimed Vig?

Well it easies a bit, then probably Shadow+NM?

I did not. I am explicit I did not claim anything. I said tictac considers me a vig and scum which is impossible based on normal rules

Then i don't understand why you was called scum vig.

[Enchant]

Let's just say, it's all pointless. I will follow Roden word regardless.

Either he vote scum and it's cool, or i will have hard time in voting, because scum will of course ship Roden on town, but ignore my blabbering.

[Enchant]

lol did mathblade just slip in the same way in the last time they complained about "muh townsided setup"

No. Last time I was frustrated and off the walls.

Here if I was scum I would take whoever is not my partner(s) in SM/NM and call it a day.

There’d be no reason to push you or complain as through your pushing you’d win it for me.

I also don’t buy you know who the vig is either.

ok enchant you can come forward

Koba again trolled me.

Seems like hiding is pointless now.

I shot NK15.

[Enchant]

Just in a case, i am with modifier.

Please state it.
Correctly.

[Enchant]

Well that's correct.

[Enchant]

I wondering why you checked me, aren't i was your townread.

[Enchant]

Vig is Anti-town role for shoting Masons and other PRs, while mafia laughs their asses.

[Enchant]

So it's balanced.

[Enchant]

Let's just say that Koba role atleast IS real.

[Enchant]

Waiting what Roden says, but even if Koba maf, it's benefiting to remove other maf first, so i can safely shred Koba with bullets at night. Idk if they have roleblocker or such.

Not opposing tho.

[Enchant]

Who the hell is Enchanr

[Enchant]

Because i would blast their faces lol.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Koba

Can afford.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Koba

Can afford.

can you just trust me >.>

I want tho but i fear tho.

[Enchant]

God damn it Roden, can someone concisely summarise this koba mech-clear/guilty please because I've seen both whilst skimming

Ha-ha like i believe you read anything.

[Enchant]

God damn it Roden, can someone concisely summarise this koba mech-clear/guilty please because I've seen both whilst skimming

Well look.

Dwlee99 claimed Doctor in hood. Afterwards Koba rolecopped him and found it's as false.


Most strange thing is that Dwlee started day from "Koba is silentive in hood!" which is probably worst accusation which could be aimed at Koba of either alignment, so it looked like Dwlee99 not really trying to accuse or save self.

[Enchant]

Just in case i supposed to sleep two hours ago, but if i do we could suck up.

[Enchant]

let's just say.

I go to sleep. And pray i will wake up before deadline... Or just punch me, probably will work tZzzzz

[Enchant]

VOTE: Not Mafia

[Enchant]

Hey look i didn't shot town again

[Enchant]

No redactions.

[Enchant]

I...what? I'm sorry, why am I alive?

why is koba?

scratch that.
neighborhood not gonna be 2scumz, so koba clear

Lmaoooooo

How to mafia claim and get away with it.

Well i noticed it, just didn't speak.

[Enchant]

Koba why you didn't shot me on last night.