Mini Normal 2269 - Flavors of Elmer's Glue [Game Over]

[JacksonVirgo]

ego

[JacksonVirgo]

I will appreciate it if everyone takes my pro-town new survey strategy when I post it, the Standard Survey Strategy.

So it gives you the ability to role fish? No thanks

[JacksonVirgo]

ego

I will appreciate it if everyone takes my pro-town new survey strategy when I post it, the Standard Survey Strategy.

So it gives you the ability to role fish? No thanks

and you want to tell me I've done nothing when this is Jackson's entire ISO?? yeah no thanks... go find another town to tunnel

(no Jackson, I'm not calling you out... I'm just stating that if we're calling me out for doing nothing.. when you only have 2 posts... it's just like, seriously??)

Bruh

[JacksonVirgo]

Last shift of the week will be able to post in a little over 9 hours.

[JacksonVirgo]

yeah that's RVS done and a scum found. who is thy partner...

This is jumping to conclusions. If any scum is found in the first few pages, it's out of pure coincidence unless they royally fuck up, which if Andante is scum here is not the case. I see them as joking around in meme-phase and yet you try and twist that to them being scum.

[JacksonVirgo]

MOD: are you able to do a vote history?

vote analysis is always a nice tool and the mod doing that makes it batter... if not the the vote with the post the vote came from is nice as well.

Are you trying to look townie by the sake of saying townie-like things? The fuck who says this

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: kcdaspot

Expect a case once I'm back at my pc.

I can vibe irregardless of case

[JacksonVirgo]

One hell of a wallpost for page 5. I'll read when I have the energy

[JacksonVirgo]

I was waiting for a Beetlejuice but no one called my name.

I'm still working on the scripts for my survey strategy.

Saying this is useless and annoying. Post it soon or quit talking about it completely

[JacksonVirgo]

Hiya

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson,Mala are too busy with RL to be here

Please do not speak for me

[JacksonVirgo]

Like, I'm looking it up like "yeah I'm X ___!!" wait, but I know I also have this part.. this isn't in my role... let me look up the actual role PM... OHHHH IM NOT X!! IM Y!!

hahahhahaha we def shouldn't yeet me though

So confused

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson,Mala are too busy with RL to be here

Please do not speak for me

Well, you weren't here... and I have a dumb tunnel on me, and people demanding reads... would you rather me call you coasting maf?

Yes I would rather that, because you told everybody something that you do not know was true. It was your assumption, which you did not clarify.

[JacksonVirgo]

cause "busy with RL" and "coasting maf" are your 2 options here

No they are not. Read my sig

[JacksonVirgo]

Like, I'm looking it up like "yeah I'm X ___!!" wait, but I know I also have this part.. this isn't in my role... let me look up the actual role PM... OHHHH IM NOT X!! IM Y!!

hahahhahaha we def shouldn't yeet me though

So confused

I mean, why would town want me to clarify?

Because you seem to be flailing

[JacksonVirgo]

ok whatever, I'm not doing this. I'm PR. yeet me if you want, I don't care. I hardclaim vengeful. lets go. yeet me if you dare

You're aware how this looks no?

[JacksonVirgo]

Like, I'm looking it up like "yeah I'm X ___!!" wait, but I know I also have this part.. this isn't in my role... let me look up the actual role PM... OHHHH IM NOT X!! IM Y!!

hahahhahaha we def shouldn't yeet me though

So confused

I mean, why would town want me to clarify?

Because you seem to be flailing

CAUSE IM THE LEADING WAGON. IM THE ONLY ONE WHO APPARENTLY EVEN CARES HERE, YET IM STILL THE LEADING WAGON. IM NOT SURE WHAT MORE PEOPLE WANT FROM ME

You keep posting bullshit to get out of the wagon, such as the vengeful fake-claim and you expect me to believe you?

[JacksonVirgo]

If I'm being completely honest? I don't really care about this game right now, and if I'm the top SR, yeet me. I DARE town to... cause yeah I'm a good pr, and people seem to be hating the fact I'm trying and actually giving my best effort I can here given the circumstances, so if I'm the top SR? yeet me. Not like town needs me if all we're going to do is "omg andante so scummy" not like you need my powers anyways, go play this on expert mode!

You aren't even on E-1 and you're freaking out this badly without even full-claiming with the threat of death upon you? Why

[JacksonVirgo]

You keep posting bullshit

Fine, I'll stop posting. have fun!

If you are actually town, with a strong PR role, this is gamethrowing.

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Andante full-claim. I would have pushed against by a plain PR claim, but with how you are acting I need a full.

[JacksonVirgo]

If I'm being completely honest? I don't really care about this game right now, and if I'm the top SR, yeet me. I DARE town to... cause yeah I'm a good pr, and people seem to be hating the fact I'm trying and actually giving my best effort I can here given the circumstances, so if I'm the top SR? yeet me. Not like town needs me if all we're going to do is "omg andante so scummy" not like you need my powers anyways, go play this on expert mode!

You aren't even on E-1 and you're freaking out this badly without even full-claiming with the threat of death upon you? Why

If I were to answer this question I'd just be told my answer is BS...
but not matter how annoyed/mad I am. end of the day, I do still love mafia.

I'm not on e-1 no, but I basically am... Val is SRing me,Meg is the ONLY person TRing me.. (thank you meg <3) there's no point in me full claiming, cause then I become useless. I told yall more info than you needed. I am a PR. that is a fact. I'm not a VT. The threat of death doesn't scare me. I just get really annoyed when there's no good reason to SR me, like, frog killed the conversation. I treid to kick the game off, kcda went after me... ok, I can ignor kcda and try some more to get the game rolling!!! more SRs?? Yall can kick me all you want, but I'm still fighting... I don't handle pressure well.. not sure how many times I gotta say that

What's more useless than a dead PR.

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't feel like I have any genuine reason to be scumread right now...

Agreed, the previous arguments I have read do not seem to make an accurate case to you being scum. However, you bouncing around a claim like you have been is exactly why I think you are now scum caught for the wrong reasons.

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson, just curious, why am I maf?

Are you saying why I know you are mafia? Because I don't. I've said why I am inclined to believe you are over anybody else.

I don't like monkeyboi, at all. But until I get a claim from you, I cannot let your actions here slip by.

[JacksonVirgo]

basically 50% of the posts this entire game are me...

Post counts don't mean a thing

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson, you're voting me FOR CLAIMING PR... want me to change my claim to VT?

Add retaliatory shade to my list.

[JacksonVirgo]

Why are you not full-claiming because you are useless alive once claimed, but then inviting a hammer vote. You seem suicidal for the sake of tryingto get sympathy unvotes.

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson, just curious, why am I maf?

Are you saying why I know you are mafia? Because I don't. I've said why I am inclined to believe you are over anybody else.

I don't like monkeyboi, at all. But until I get a claim from you, I cannot let your actions here slip by.

You put me on E-1. No one puts anyone on E-1 unless you want them dead.

I do want you dead, beacuse I believe you to be flailing scum. If you are to claim that might change things, who knows.

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson, you're voting me FOR CLAIMING PR... want me to change my claim to VT?

Add retaliatory shade to my list.

oooh retaliatory shade... sounds kinda cool!!!! idk what that is though lol

Shading out of retaliation.

[JacksonVirgo]

Why are you not full-claiming because you are useless alive once claimed, but then inviting a hammer vote. You seem suicidal for the sake of tryingto get sympathy unvotes.

Well I seem to be slipping into "confirmed scum mode" and I'm legit not even scum here, cause I just get this attitude of "lmaoooo don't care" this game... I.. just don't think I truly care right now, and like, I'm not even maf is the funniest part of all this to me

Thing is, you are acting like you are completely insulted by this outcome. Yet you claim you don't care, which are contradictory.

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson, you're voting me FOR CLAIMING PR... want me to change my claim to VT?

Add retaliatory shade to my list.

oooh retaliatory shade... sounds kinda cool!!!! idk what that is though lol

Shading out of retaliation.

lol ahhh well, there's no shade there... if there is it's not intentional, but I'm just saying my interpretation of why you're voting me is cause of my "terrible claim"
I mean hey, I don't think maf is bold enough to do that, so you're likely town, but meh

First of all, you are either purposefully taking my case out of context to make it look worse or you are blinded and that's all you see of it.

[JacksonVirgo]

I can assure you that if you are PR, claiming is beneficial beyond what can happen after this by not. I do not see you, and I will not myself, be unvoted unless you full-claim. Even then you might still be hammered, but it is much better for Town if you claim here.

[JacksonVirgo]

They can't if I unvote.

[JacksonVirgo]

right... cause unvoting can happen after the e-1 vote...

You are aware that I want you to be Town no? I am actively holding shit back as much as I can to benefit you more than you know as to which which you are making it quite difficult.

And hammer vote cannot be undone, but the fact Val said intent means they aren't a fool that wants to hammer you without a claim. I cannot get mad at them if you refuse any further and they then vote, as I would do the same.

Claim. Final warning from me and if you don't I consider you lock-scum.

[JacksonVirgo]

UNVOTE: Andante temporary while I think

[JacksonVirgo]

right... cause unvoting can happen after the e-1 vote...

You are aware that I want you to be Town no? I am actively holding shit back as much as I can to benefit you more than you know as to which which you are making it quite difficult.

And hammer vote cannot be undone, but the fact Val said intent means they aren't a fool that wants to hammer you without a claim. I cannot get mad at them if you refuse any further and they then vote, as I would do the same.

Claim. Final warning from me and if you don't I consider you lock-scum.

I mean, I've talked to Val all game, I KNOW val is serious,...

whatever, I'm a vig, pew pew I shoot the bad guys!!

Why would you say we were doomed or whatever you said about a vig role.

[JacksonVirgo]

Why would you, as a 1-shot vig, be as self-defensive as you have been? Honest question. You can confirm yourself, and even if doc cannot heal you which would require a macho modifier, your role has been used up and thus it isn't the type of role you've been claiming as the "carry town" role.

You also said earlier that you are useless once claimed. Which is 100% not the case with a 1-shot vig. Or a vig at all.

[JacksonVirgo]

Actually... lmao I just looked up what my modifier does... I have a strong feeling we have a GS and my role just exists to mess up GS? ehhh idk, I already claimed more than enough, GS do not check me, you will get a "guilty" or whatever

Mokeyboi has a point here. You say the modifer itself changes the GS reuslt. Where the base-role would in the case of a vigi

[JacksonVirgo]

no matter the result of this day and game you should probably just stick to mish mash lady.

Oi fuck off with the rudeness.

[JacksonVirgo]

Full-claim including mods. Or I revote and get val to hammer.

[JacksonVirgo]

I do not care about your 20 questions game.

[JacksonVirgo]

I think it's time for me to become a tactical lurker.. that'll get me more TRed!!!

Why are you trying to piss me off? Like how does it benefit anything

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh I see what's happened here.
VOTE: Andante

[JacksonVirgo]

I think it's time for me to become a tactical lurker.. that'll get me more TRed!!!

Why are you trying to piss me off? Like how does it benefit anything

I mean, have you seen how I've been treated this game? I feel like everyone has just given my slot an unfair chance...

I said this earlier that I think you were caught for the wrong reasons. Yet your actions, and contradictory claims make it obvious you are scum. You aren't benefitting the town even if you aren't, leaving you alive is a detriment.

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh I see what's happened here.
VOTE: Andante

what's happened? I've given up? yeah.. if I'm being completely honest I think I gave up this morning, I'm town vig though

No you aren't. You wouldn't have claimed your modifier changed the gunsmith result.

[JacksonVirgo]

leaving you alive is a detriment.

yeah... constant comments like this... ALL GAME LONG... are the reason I'm here, drunk, finally like "I really don't care anymore"

It's taken fucking PAGES to get you to full-claim on E-1 with intent and it still hasn't happened and you're boo hooing about constant comments like that?

If you want to be treated like you are of worth, be of worth.

[JacksonVirgo]

and there's a part of me that does still believe there's a way out... so no, I'm not gonna hammer myself

Hmm, maybe claim

[JacksonVirgo]

You claimed a modifier. Yet you choose to omit that, it isn't a full-claim.

[JacksonVirgo]

I might as well make NM pround

I mean, I'm 100% sure at least one of yall is maf sooo sure make the maf happy

Patience is key.

[JacksonVirgo]

Didn't mean to quote that post.

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: kdca

@Andante

shoot Mala tonight.

[JacksonVirgo]

Val won't hammer you.

[JacksonVirgo]

no one but me controls my shot

If you refuse to shoot Mala, we will elim you today. It's your choice.

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Andante fine.

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm shooting Val. no brakes

Then I cannot let you live.

[JacksonVirgo]

I am PR. I have reason to believe Val is Town and Mala is scum. If Mala flips Town, Val is scum.
If I die for this alongside Mala being scum. Val is pretty obviously scum.

If you take this into consideration, taking in the big picture can I convince you to shoot Mala. Which would confirm you in turn allowing you to push Val alongside me if you are confirmed and Mala is town.

[JacksonVirgo]

I may die before you because of this claim. But that's okay.

[JacksonVirgo]

Val is pretty obviously scum.

THAT'S WHAT IM SAYING

Fuck you. That is blatant and purposeful misrepresentation

[JacksonVirgo]

Why are you even claiming PR? you have no reason to be claiming...

I have every reason to be claiming.

I am trying to sort. I do not want you dead if I can help it, you refusing to cooperate means I need to elim you. If you live, Mala getting shot is needed due to the information that I have with my role. Val is very likely Town, I can assure you this. You told me earlier you think I am Town, put trust in me with this.

Me holding this claim back only hurts Town if you are not going to cooperate so I am claiming. Not in full, yet.

[JacksonVirgo]

if that is the reason for my death. so be it. but I can not commit to shooting mala

May I ask why?

[JacksonVirgo]

well instead of telling me "shoot mala or die" have you ever considered sharing this "important info"

I have considered it. Still doing so, but judging if it's a detriment overall if I do so over not doing so.

[JacksonVirgo]

if that is the reason for my death. so be it. but I can not commit to shooting mala

May I ask why?

I HAVE NO REASON TO SHOOT MALA?????

It'd clear three people.

[JacksonVirgo]

Or incriminate one.

[JacksonVirgo]

My full-claim will backfire since you are biased against Val.

[JacksonVirgo]

My full-claim will backfire since you are biased against Val.

What reason do I have to TR val??? none

Never said you had reason to, nor do I expect you to change your read. As I said earlier, if you look at the greater picture rather than just flipping now.

If I gave you reason to believe scum is between Val, myself and Mala. Would you allow a set action path to solve all of that. It would get your scum!val dead if they are scum alongside the overall Town clearing you, as well as Mala who is objectively more likely to be scum from my own perspective to be dead first.

[JacksonVirgo]

This is of course assuming that you are real. Which will be resolved alongside this

[JacksonVirgo]

Alright worth a shot. Seeya Andante

[JacksonVirgo]

Mala not being eliminated was quite stupid. You push Val for god knows what reason when it was blatant it wasn't scum-based as I literally flipped town and pushed it even harder than he did.

Bruh. I did htink kdca was scum though, N_M did a bruh moment

[JacksonVirgo]

I can see why the vigilante elim was dumb, but I was much more wanting them dead over val even if it were to confirm them. Andante's play was a burden, even got pocketed just from being town-read.

[JacksonVirgo]

So.

You rightly deduced scum.
BUT.

Limmed Vig for refusal to shot it because "PARTNERS", instead of, uh, you know, voting Malakittens?

And I AM DUMB?

EXCUSE ME?

I didn't want to be wrong on my read and lose my top TR at the same time, which would have happened in WCS. I don't make plays for BCS, you get fucked over too much if you do that. I do agree that I probably should have abandoned my biases and let Andante confirm themselves but also in retrospect I still would have wanted them dead. They literally got pocketed over them being town-read, and they were a vigilante. Bad mix