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Why would this be only said by mafia? It’s a very logical thing to say.In post 47, Natalya wrote:In post 25, fua wrote:
What should we be talking about instead? Half the people in this game haven't even checked in yet.In post 22, Andante wrote:I bet we have a mailman this game who is the most fun person here.... so far all yall are boring
This feels like something a mafia would say"Would you like to know more?"
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In post 25, fua wrote:
What should we be talking about instead? Half the people in this game haven't even checked in yet.In post 22, Andante wrote:I bet we have a mailman this game who is the most fun person here.... so far all yall are boring
Why are you so concerned with how people play the “joke” portion of the game?In post 28, Andante wrote:especially if everyone is just voting different people... like, at LEAST make it a wagon on someone not this "vote the person above you" type thing"Would you like to know more?"
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In post 54, Natalya wrote:pushing someone is a good way to sort them!In post 50, Natalya wrote:Andy we can be besties
help me wagon Scorpy
it will be fun
and he might even be mafia!
Again, based on?"Would you like to know more?"
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Welcome back, yeah I played a game on another site and was thinking : “I wonder if MS is still a thing”In post 64, Oman wrote:
Excuse a bunch of that in anything I do as well, please My first game in about 5 years.In post 63, T3 wrote:excuse it as an older player coming back to the site and feeling out-of-place with the site meta."Would you like to know more?"
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It was the carry over. And the insistence. Naturally I’m going to question play I’ve never seen before.In post 67, fua wrote:I also agree with T3’s sentiments on Scorpious for now. The reaction to a scumread based on one post seems a little too defensive, but it’s not enough for me to fully scumread them at the moment."Would you like to know more?"
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The fact that there was “reasoning” behind the vote, then the attempt at recruiting the most verbose player thus far, which was promptly ignored.In post 74, fua wrote:What do you mean by carry over?
If it was just a joke vote I would have ignored it, it was the follow ups that I wanted clarification on. The vote could have been on anyone and I would still be questioning the motivations."Would you like to know more?"
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I’m regards to your “bottom 3”, what is that based on, the context of this post leans toward activity. Am I interpreting this correctly?In post 71, Andante wrote:ah nice!
yeezys(1) ~ Egix96(1)
UglyDuck(1) ~ Andresvmb(2)
Scorpious(1) ~ Natalya(9)
Natalya(1) ~ Oman(2)
fua(1) ~ Scorpious(5)
Egix96(1) ~ Retti(2)
Andresvmb(1) ~ UglyDuck(1)
So these are the "haha (vote x)" people and there's way too many for that to be all town,
The people that came back and talked were Retti, Scorp, Natalya
I might TR Oman, I know what they're talking about
Leaves Egix, Andres, UglyDuck, likely at least 1 scum in them
(I know it's crazy vague, but game just started, and that's where my initial suspicious go)"Would you like to know more?"
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Again, based on?In post 56, Natalya wrote:I have doubts that we will get something useful out of T3"Would you like to know more?"
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I hate the timing of this post in relation to the one by Natalya.In post 63, T3 wrote:+1
Andante comes across as very genuine and inquisitive. Her questioning of Natalya feels like a Town who wants to get the game forward, which is congruent with her earlier statements.
Natalya... idk? It's hard to separate the fluff from readable content. The one thing that stuck out to me was 56. From what I've seen there's a general sentiment from players who have played with me before that I'm hard to read. From this, Natalya is lean town. It's also possible that Natalya was reaction testing Scorpious, in which case she's even more towny.
Retti is a (possible) scumread. His point about Natalya in 61 is eerily similar to reasoning I've used as scum before to justifly shade on someone immediately after RVS. In FIA WRC, another player hyped up a tone scumread on a newbie. Scum me immediately shaded that player and got an early wagon on them. The reason I say possibly, is because Retti isn't me, and this might be a legitimate tell town him uses.
Scorpious is nullscum. His reaction to Natalya's 'scumread' was bad but I want to excuse it as an older player coming back to the site and feeling out-of-place with the site meta.
But when I get an answer to why she singled out T3, in saying she isn’t expecting much. It may make more sense."Would you like to know more?"
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In post 37, Andante wrote:I honestly can't look at #33 being said from town like that
Did the post I referenced above change this thinking at all?"Would you like to know more?"
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I am too, I really like that opening, even if I was the random target.In post 84, Andante wrote:I mean, so far I'm liking Natalya, not gonna lie"Would you like to know more?"
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Is this sarcasm? Is it apathy? Do you not know?
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Fair. Thanks for clearing that up.In post 99, T3 wrote:
I don't know for a fact. Natalya is an alt,In post 98, Scorpious wrote:Is this sarcasm? Is it apathy? Do you not know?
probablyof a player I've played with a lot."Would you like to know more?"
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Yeah, I’m not wasting anymore time “defending” myself. How such a weak push gains so much momentum is beyond me. As far as being “defensive”. That’s being manufactured, and people are buying it.I asked some obvious questions that anyone would ask. Good thing is, This train is giving me some information, though."Would you like to know more?"
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This might be the worst post of the game.In post 111, Egix96 wrote:
I agree with this and the subsequent posts.In post 106, Natalya wrote:In post 85, Scorpious wrote:
I am too, I really like that opening, even if I was the random target.In post 84, Andante wrote:I mean, so far I'm liking Natalya, not gonna lie
This feels like a weird thing for him to say given how many questions he has posed towards me.
I'm not sure what the point of him questioning me is if he thinks I'm town.
VOTE: Scorpious"Would you like to know more?"
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I lean town on Asante, don’t know what to think of Natalya, null on you, and have not a single clue how to read T3 as of now..In post 120, fua wrote:
You could always try scumhunting and sharing your reads, like I asked you twice.In post 117, Scorpious wrote:Yeah, I’m not wasting anymore time “defending” myself. How such a weak push gains so much momentum is beyond me. As far as being “defensive”. That’s being manufactured, and people are buying it.I asked some obvious questions that anyone would ask. Good thing is, This train is giving me some information, though.
That’s 90% of the game right there.."Would you like to know more?"
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56 and 63 l really bother me. The timing of it. Natalya shifts gears to mention getting nothing from T3, then out of nowhere we get this long explanation which Retty pointed out as being very uncharacteristic. Then the T3 slot shuts down again. I don’t like it, I feel there could be scum amongst those 3."Would you like to know more?"
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Votes, and positions on the train.In post 125, Retti wrote:
...information, such as?In post 117, Scorpious wrote:Yeah, I’m not wasting anymore time “defending” myself. How such a weak push gains so much momentum is beyond me. As far as being “defensive”. That’s being manufactured, and people are buying it.I asked some obvious questions that anyone would ask. Good thing is, This train is giving me some information, though."Would you like to know more?"
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How so? I’m not going to vote someone every time they do something I don’t like..In post 133, Natalya wrote:In post 118, Scorpious wrote:
This might be the worst post of the game.In post 111, Egix96 wrote:
I agree with this and the subsequent posts.In post 106, Natalya wrote:In post 85, Scorpious wrote:
I am too, I really like that opening, even if I was the random target.In post 84, Andante wrote:I mean, so far I'm liking Natalya, not gonna lie
This feels like a weird thing for him to say given how many questions he has posed towards me.
I'm not sure what the point of him questioning me is if he thinks I'm town.
VOTE: Scorpious
It's somewhat weird for you to believe this but not vote for him.
How do you view this post?"Would you like to know more?"
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So Natalya votes me based on.. I guess my joke vote.. whatever. As stated. I’ve never seen that. I’m also assuming not many others have as well. Then i ask, standard questions and get accused of being “explainy” and “defensive”.In post 141, Retti wrote:
I don't get what that is supposed to mean? Like, I would have assumed you were getting reads on the people pushing you, but you haven't really done that, in fact you gave a null/don't know stance on two of them so I have no idea what you're actually doing with this information.In post 127, Scorpious wrote:
Votes, and positions on the train.In post 125, Retti wrote:
...information, such as?In post 117, Scorpious wrote:Yeah, I’m not wasting anymore time “defending” myself. How such a weak push gains so much momentum is beyond me. As far as being “defensive”. That’s being manufactured, and people are buying it.I asked some obvious questions that anyone would ask. Good thing is, This train is giving me some information, though.
This person obviously has some sort of clout to expect others to just buy into it. Eg-
The recruitment “attempt” toward Adente.
I look at this as a site regular with a bit of an ego expecting the train to go where they want it.
Could mean 2 things:
1. They feel they nailed scum, the ego won’t let them be wrong, and they are trying to solve.
Or
2.This person knows the player list and picked out a name they aren’t familiar with and
Decided to go the aggressive route. I feel this may be true because they have cut the legs out of anything I have said by calling it “defensive”. Or the latest question of why I wouldn’t vote someone for a post I didn’t like.
All I know as fact is that this person has decided they are going to focus on me, they have offered next to nothing on anyone else.
With all that said. I’m looking for the opportunistic votes here. Egix’s
Was bad but there are 12 days before deadline. So
Much time to formulate reads."Would you like to know more?"
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still my RVSIn post 142, Retti wrote:And why the unvote?"Would you like to know more?"
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Yes I’m very deliberate, even moreso when there are so many that have contributed nothing.In post 145, Retti wrote:Are you often slow to form reads/do anything with your vote on day 1? I don't understand what you're doing right now."Would you like to know more?"
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I find it amusing that you are here telling me my RVS means nothing when this entire push supposedly started because of my vote.In post 151, Natalya wrote:In post 139, Scorpious wrote:How so? I’m not going to vote someone every time they do something I don’t like..
How do you view this post?
I think it makes sense for town!you to vote for someone if you think they made "the worst post of the game" rather than keep your vote on your RVS which means really nothing.
The fact that you don't really see your vote as a tool to pressure/attack people that you suspect makes me think you are not very interested in scumhunting.
So which is it?"Would you like to know more?"
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Saying I’m not interested in scumhunting because I play differently than you is a bit a stretch.In post 151, Natalya wrote:In post 139, Scorpious wrote:How so? I’m not going to vote someone every time they do something I don’t like..
How do you view this post?
The fact that you don't really see your vote as a tool to pressure/attack people that you suspect makes me think you are not very interested in scumhunting.
It’s a little distracting as well to have a heat seeking missle honed in on you since litterally post 4.
I feel like no matter what I say you’re gonna spin it to fit your narrative. You’re obviously town. Your ego
just won’t let you even entertain the fact that you are wrong.
So what are your thoughts on Egix? Humor me."Would you like to know more?"
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In post 153, fua wrote:I think you're misconstruing the crux of her argument as just your RVS vote being suspicious rather than your reaction to the pressure her vote and read placed on you.
Perhaps, and if that’s the case. I guess my question is irrelevant."Would you like to know more?"
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Nevermind..In post 156, fua wrote:What makes Natalya obviously town?
Damn, man. Can I talk to her? And get her reactions? My god.."Would you like to know more?"
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If she’s scum it’s the most brazen, balls out attack on a random townie I’ve ever seen. Is that possible, maybe. I feel that it is highly unlikely.In post 157, Scorpious wrote:
Nevermind..In post 156, fua wrote:What makes Natalya obviously town?
Damn, man. Can I talk to her? And get her reactions? My god.."Would you like to know more?"
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I think I’m starting to remember why I stopped playing here. You don’t allow people to play how they want without making them suffer for it.
All I’m getting here is a bunch of people that are familiar with one another.You all have a zillion alts and are so comfortable in your ways, when someone comes and plays a different way, you throw wagons in their face. Then you mis-whatever you call it now and laugh about it.
I guess that’s why it took this game 3 weeks to fill up after I signed up,because not enough site regulars wanted to play."Would you like to know more?"
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In post 170, Natalya wrote:~*hugs duckie*~In post 173, fua wrote:Scorp’s last post seems like genuine frustration, but I can’t tell whether it’s frustration at being tunneled as a townie or scum upset that they got caught out of nowhere.
Case in point.In post 170, Natalya wrote:~*hugs duckie*~"Would you like to know more?"
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In post 197, Azaariah wrote:my initial thoughts were that andante seemed very explain-y, overexplain-y but i wasn't reading closely so i'll give that a reassessment probably sometime tomorrow.
This is the second time I’m seeing this “explainy” word..
Please define it when you return tomorrow?
I’d like to know, in your words what it means.
And why is it bad?
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This is fair, my play has been crap. I fell into the hole of trying to argue my towniness instead of showing my townieness. Just really hard when it’s a first game back after a long layover and *BAM* pressure right out the gate.In post 268, Egix96 wrote:
Why are you asking me about the one thing I've stated an opinion on??In post 161, T3 wrote:What are your thoughts on Natalya/Scorp?
But yeah, I'm in the same boat as Retti in thinking that Nat had sincere conviction in that read. Also in her early posts I get the impression that she was eager to dig right into the game which I see as >rand town.
Regarding Scorp, outside of what I already said I agreed with, on a tonal level he feels a bit... idk, stiff? Robotic? (I swear that's not just because of his avatar...) I'm just not seeing what Oman sees in him.
Perhaps my rant was a little to broad, but the frustration was real.
I’m going to reset and look all this over, slow day at work should afford that opportunity."Would you like to know more?"
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But then:In post 206, Scorpious wrote:In post 197, Azaariah wrote:my initial thoughts were that andante seemed very explain-y, overexplain-y but i wasn't reading closely so i'll give that a reassessment probably sometime tomorrow.
This is the second time I’m seeing this “explainy” word..
Please define it when you return tomorrow?
I’d like to know, in your words what it means.
And why is it bad?
Pedit- the rEINDEER is nothing short of genius
This is the most waffly post about waffling I’ve ever seen. It’s 4 paragraphs if you saying . “I don’t know what to think”.In post 272, Azaariah wrote:i feel really good about andante and retti. i think that andante's replies really confused me in my last game read-wise. i spent a long time thinking about what alignment they came from but these posts here give me an immediate townread on her. retti just feels so towny especially with pointing out that they liked my posts. i dont think this type of nuance is fakable. im now sure that it is play style but they just happened to post something before i said anything (turn this situation around and retti would townread me back) but it's just not nuance that scum can typically fake. i could go on but i dont think there's a need because i feel very solid on both of these reads.
sorting through recent posts,
i want to say votes dont make my reads spicier but honestly, they probably do but it's not very nice to force people to talk like that. there's plenty of other ways to deal with someone who isn't even a solid scum read. in general, i find the worst scummy but i dont feel like the solve is that easy. it makes more sense to me that they are just scummy town but im not convinced of that completely. about being noncommittal, sure i'll take that. i dont like being too committal and it loses me reads that are correct and saves me from tunneling the wrong people. it sucks in a lot of ways but it's how i play.
i take back my town lean on oman because im now convinced that their posts could easily be fakable. theres a level of nuance that i townread but im certain now that it's fakable. oman could still be town but im not giving out a town pass for it.
half of me wants to say egix is town but the other half wants to say he is scum. i really like tvt/tvs type reads but honestly, they aren't alignment indicative. in general, i like how calm and composed they are because it feels towny but i also know it comes from scum more often. im having difficulty figuring out what my read is and whether it's being affected by the large amount of scumreads there. in the past minute, my read has flipped twice on egix and that's part of why i dont know what my read is at all. the recent flip flips to scum but that will probably flip a couple more times before settling down.
Seems awfully “explainy” which has been hinted at being AI this game.
Natalya, since you also used this word and used it as AI..
How do you feel about this post?"Would you like to know more?"
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How are they different? In your view.In post 283, Natalya wrote:In post 73, Scorpious wrote:
It was the carry over. And the insistence. Naturally I’m going to question play I’ve never seen before.In post 67, fua wrote:I also agree with T3’s sentiments on Scorpious for now. The reaction to a scumread based on one post seems a little too defensive, but it’s not enough for me to fully scumread them at the moment.In post 272, Azaariah wrote:i feel really good about andante and retti. i think that andante's replies really confused me in my last game read-wise. i spent a long time thinking about what alignment they came from but these posts here give me an immediate townread on her. retti just feels so towny especially with pointing out that they liked my posts. i dont think this type of nuance is fakable. im now sure that it is play style but they just happened to post something before i said anything (turn this situation around and retti would townread me back) but it's just not nuance that scum can typically fake. i could go on but i dont think there's a need because i feel very solid on both of these reads.
sorting through recent posts,
i want to say votes dont make my reads spicier but honestly, they probably do but it's not very nice to force people to talk like that. there's plenty of other ways to deal with someone who isn't even a solid scum read. in general, i find the worst scummy but i dont feel like the solve is that easy. it makes more sense to me that they are just scummy town but im not convinced of that completely. about being noncommittal, sure i'll take that. i dont like being too committal and it loses me reads that are correct and saves me from tunneling the wrong people. it sucks in a lot of ways but it's how i play.
i take back my town lean on oman because im now convinced that their posts could easily be fakable. theres a level of nuance that i townread but im certain now that it's fakable. oman could still be town but im not giving out a town pass for it.
half of me wants to say egix is town but the other half wants to say he is scum. i really like tvt/tvs type reads but honestly, they aren't alignment indicative. in general, i like how calm and composed they are because it feels towny but i also know it comes from scum more often. im having difficulty figuring out what my read is and whether it's being affected by the large amount of scumreads there. in the past minute, my read has flipped twice on egix and that's part of why i dont know what my read is at all. the recent flip flips to scum but that will probably flip a couple more times before settling down.
These two posts are not "explainy" in the same way Scorp."Would you like to know more?"
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I’m not trying to be thick, but you’re telling me that my 4 word answer is over explaining things? That’s the one you said was “explainy”.In post 288, Natalya wrote:In post 285, Scorpious wrote:How are they different? In your view.
Your post feels like you are overexplaining something that you are worried might look scummy.
The entire thing fees non commital. Like They are writing it to have you feel exactly how you are telling me you feel about it. I feel very differently about it. I don’t like it. There is nothing in the entire 4 paragraph entry that gives any hint to how they are feeling. It’s just a bunch of wordsAza's post feels like Aza is explaining Aza's reads and thoughts about players and how Aza came to these conclusions by explaining the thought process behind the reads."Would you like to know more?"
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That’s exactly what I’m saying. I’ve never had anyone go so hard on me from an RVS vote.In post 289, Natalya wrote:Like you're basically saying. My reaction is because I haven't been pushed like this before so naturally I am going to react this way.
Yes, but that’s really stretchy as well, I think with as much pressure as you applied my responseThere's no content value there - you would defend yourself this way as scum as well right?
Was appropriate. Who else have you pressured this game?
Would you prefer I write 4 paragraphs of totally noncommittal content? I can do that..Whereas Aza is writing out Aza's thought process on why Aza has particular reads and that feels more solvy/moving the game forward like Aza is actively figuring out who is good/bad."Would you like to know more?"
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Cute.. Don’t feel the need to apologize. At the end of the day it’s a game albeit a contentious one. I learned a long time ago that these games can get heated. I take nothing personal.In post 290, Natalya wrote:Scorp,
I'd like to apologize to you if you think I'm being overly hard/tunnely towards you. I have an unfortunate habit of bothering people until they give me what I want. My boyfriend calls it "clingy" but I'd like to think I'm just determined.
My experience being good or bad does not exclusively rest on your shoulders, but I appreciate the sentiment.As you're not really doing what I expect you to be doing as town and I'd like to help you break out of that funk, could you please do me a favor and do some kind of reads list when you have a chance? It doesn't have to be sorted by towniness, just a few sentences on what you think of each player so far. If you don't have the time to do everyone I'd like you to just post a few reads on people in the game.
I don't want your experience to be bad and I do truly feel awful for being so pushy early in the day.
I’m also getting back into the groove with the site mechanics too so hopefully my content will improve in line with that enough to be more effective"Would you like to know more?"
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Do you think scum is more likely to post something like you did or would they just sit on what amountsIn post 295, Azaariah wrote:i also have two reads that i am very much committing to and will actively fight against either of their elims. im just explaining why i have no other reads at the moment. it's not noncommittal, it's explaining what im considering with most of these players and why there is no conclusion currently.
To essentially to “town reads”? In your opinion."Would you like to know more?"
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Forgive me. Can you clarify this?In post 298, Azaariah wrote:
i dont think it depends on the person rather than the alignment.In post 297, Scorpious wrote:
Do you think scum is more likely to post something like you did or would they just sit on what amountsIn post 295, Azaariah wrote:i also have two reads that i am very much committing to and will actively fight against either of their elims. im just explaining why i have no other reads at the moment. it's not noncommittal, it's explaining what im considering with most of these players and why there is no conclusion currently.
To essentially to “town reads”? In your opinion."Would you like to know more?"
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I’d like to get a clear answer from them before I answer my own question. Because they really didn’t..In post 302, the worst wrote:Ignore this waterbird, you already started doing that.
Suspect they're positing that certain people play this way regardless of alignment. Do you expect it's a quality aligned with scum more than town?In post 299, Scorpious wrote:
Forgive me. Can you clarify this?In post 298, Azaariah wrote:
i dont think it depends on the person rather than the alignment.In post 297, Scorpious wrote:
Do you think scum is more likely to post something like you did or would they just sit on what amountsIn post 295, Azaariah wrote:i also have two reads that i am very much committing to and will actively fight against either of their elims. im just explaining why i have no other reads at the moment. it's not noncommittal, it's explaining what im considering with most of these players and why there is no conclusion currently.
To essentially to “town reads”? In your opinion."Would you like to know more?"
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Ok, let’s do that.
You agree with your vote’s sentiments?In post 67, fua wrote:I also agree with T3’s sentiments on Scorpious for now. The reaction to a scumread based on one post seems a little too defensive, but it’s not enough for me to fully scumread them at the moment.
Do you find it strange to vote someone then say you agree with what they say?"Would you like to know more?"
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Show me where I said that. I’m asking you if you thought it felt off agreeing with someone you had a scum read on?In post 312, fua wrote:According to your logic, I should play like my first serious vote is lockscum and never listen to anything they have to say ever again.
Why is this so hard to answer?"Would you like to know more?"
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“Ask questions be proactive”In post 318, fua wrote:It was hard to answer because I couldn't believe that I even had to entertain this question and that you were fully asking it in earnest.
“How dare you ask such a stupid question!!”"Would you like to know more?"
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Anyway.. reads..partial..full..right…wrong… and my favorite color is Blue.
Natalya- Not scum, or the best scum ever.. not scum
Andante-Not scum, also cheered me on *blush*. Thanks, nice break from getting pummeled.
But I’m a sucker for the active, and this seems way too active and non contradictory
Oman- This one is weird, was really the first one to outwardly “support” me, and the quotes meaning he didn’t come in guns blazing. I’m puzzled because they switched the vote to Jackson over..? Policy?
I feel a scum vote would easily Trump the policy vote.Is this the beginning of scum initiating activity arguments?This is a null for me
Retti- Scares me. I cannot read this person. On one hand they seem receptive to logic that isn’t from their own thought process, but When I read these posts they just give me this calculated vibe. I can’t put my finger on it..Gun to my head… scum.
T3- Get this feeling this can be a scum with Aza, Voting them, then accepting a single post to remove the vote, with little to no push does not sit well with me. I’d vote this
Fua- Really likes cutting me down, didn’t like how they answered twice in a row for Natalya when I was trying to get a reaction, feels coachish..not sure how AI that is though. I can see scum motivation for trying to guide another’s behavior. Scum….ish… lean? Like as close to null as you can be but still be on the scum side.
Az- The four paragraph “ I think this, but I might think that, but if I thought that, then I might think that..” turned me off. Is it even fluff anymore? Biggest scum read atm.
the worst- no read, this person is way beyond me in levels of skill. I feel stupid even trying to read this one. I intially felt like him and Natalya were site friends just having a good time, but I was wrong. This is a null..
Egix seems a touch opportunistic, but this is that murky activity area.
And the other 2, well.. we’ll see.."Would you like to know more?"
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Please read my voice as Jon Dimaggio’s..In post 399, the worst wrote:do you read people's posts in like, internally-assigned voices?
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At this point you all should probably just lim me and use the information from my train.
I ask questions, they’re the wrong questions..
I post reads.they’re the “wrong” reads.
Kinda over it, honestly. Just let the scum team lim me. I’m losing interest."Would you like to know more?"
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I mean, the fact that someone that has said 30 words this game used words #28 and #29 to put me on e-1 should raise alarm bells, no?"Would you like to know more?"
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I guessed.In post 473, Natalya wrote:
I think it's cute you counted how many words dwlee has postedIn post 471, Scorpious wrote:I mean, the fact that someone that has said 30 words this game used words #28 and #29 to put me on e-1 should raise alarm bells, no?
are you going to vote for them?
No, idk. I really don’t.
This is the most gunshy I’ve ever been to post, vote, do anything. I feel like EVERY single thing I write is being just shredded and comes out the other end as me being scum, which is bullshit, because I can’t get any traction on anything.
Fua is a great example here.
Dude has ripped everything I write. Like, he’s spent the entire game just dumping on me.
Then he posts mafia theory about “eliminating scum places to hide” which is literally the same wording used in the mafia wiki..
Or
T3 and Dwlee sending secret message ls to each other after a horrible e-1 vote. That sucks.
I’m just tired of"Would you like to know more?"
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I did.In post 479, Natalya wrote:
You know if you weren't so shy about using your vote to do things you wouldn't actually be so scumread right?In post 477, Scorpious wrote:This is the most gunshy I’ve ever been to post, vote, do anything. I feel like EVERY single thing I write is being just shredded and comes out the other end as me being scum, which is bullshit, because I can’t get any traction on anything.
Like voting for people you suspect is kind of how we play this game..."Would you like to know more?"
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Fair..(about the pronouns. My bad)In post 482, Natalya wrote:In post 477, Scorpious wrote:Fua is a great example here.
Dude has ripped everything I write. Like, he’s spent the entire game just dumping on me.
I don't think this is a fair characterization of Fua but I should probably re-read to be sure.
from my memory I remembered Fua was kind of trying to help you get more into the game and almost kind of trying to teach you how to play.
Also Fua's pronoun is "they" and not "he".
I know you can feel that way but sometimes people really are genuinely trying to help you.
Do you really think they have taken a “helpful” tone?"Would you like to know more?"
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It’s weird though that your first real anything is to put someone on e-1.In post 485, Dwlee99 wrote:Look if someone hammered there without claim that's basically a scum claim so I'm really not pressed about it, no matter how you feel about putting someone at e-1
But, I don’t think scum would be so obvious."Would you like to know more?"
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I still don’t see Natalya as scum. It would take a lot to convince me differently.
As I said I’m a sucker for activity and both her and Andante satisfy me there."Would you like to know more?"
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