Mini Normal 2234 | Who needs title (Game Over)

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: DGB
Wake up, time to DIE.

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The FoS is post 6.

Oh. Well its weird to vote someone(even if its RVS) under the reason "I've sussed you in previous games, so let me sus you early this game and throw shade". Even if its RVS, Std saying rn makes it easy for him to push Gamma later in the game based on "you're always sus".

this feels logical

The FoS is post 6.

Oh. Well its weird to vote someone(even if its RVS) under the reason "I've sussed you in previous games, so let me sus you early this game and throw shade". Even if its RVS, Std saying rn makes it easy for him to push Gamma later in the game based on "you're always sus".

Then why play that card early or mention it at all? Scum would just hide it and be opportunistic most likely. Here, they're attempting to sort a hard slot early.

Idk my standard for StD is a lot lower than it used to be

[Gamma Emerald]

also hi to everyone I know (titus,

ari

, gamma i think?)

Wut?

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lul
PEdit: interesting, I feel like in past games you’ve used a “guilty until proven innocent” approach with me, am I wrong? If I’m right, why the flip in tactics?

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FYI it’s not just because of 235

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this interaction is weird ngl

Hi. I'm weird.

we know

lol watch this be a breadcrumb

breadcrumb of what

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Uhh its half-memish/half serious. I could def see it but I dont think scum trs thier partner this early. Curious why you're so confident in them being scum buddies tho?

The way I read was like “if gamma is scum this might be his partner”, since there wasn’t a read on me specifically in his ISO

[Gamma Emerald]

this interaction is weird ngl

Hi. I'm weird.

we know

lol watch this be a breadcrumb

breadcrumb of what

Why do u care?

I don’t get how it would be a crumb so I’m like “why is GMo seeing things that don’t exist?”

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It didn’t click until just now but I don’t think I’ve seen Titus say “I hate D1s” recently, perhaps since I started playing again here back in August

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but can we move on from this please? it seems like scum just hopped on out no where trying to rolefish now lol

who is the scum who you think did this?

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It didn’t click until just now but I don’t think I’ve seen Titus say “I hate D1s” recently, perhaps since I started playing again here back in August

I've learned to stop worrying and start memeing a bit.

sweetness

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i feel like we're just getting distracted from limming titus which is what we should be doing

Hi. Why?

P.S. We're out of RVS. Mission accomplished.

You’re a more generous soul than I.

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StD lock town?

Perhaps

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this interaction is weird ngl

Hi. I'm weird.

we know

lol watch this be a breadcrumb

breadcrumb of what

Why do u care?

Titus might be a roaming loyal jailkeeper again. You never know.

Not sure what anyone's talking about but this sounds like town.

Weak town lean.

Inclined to agree

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wut
Pls use punctuation

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Similar vibes with Roden from Yakra.

okay, idr what he was like in that game

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not see, understand

Read Calcusia mini theme. Galron has a different approach as scum usually. It's a personality tell so it's weak so early.

I can’t entirely place my finger on it but this makes me feel better about Galron

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By Titus being strange I mean it feels like she's saying jokes in a very aloof manner.

Are you trying to say that’s scummy?

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By Titus being strange I mean it feels like she's saying jokes in a very aloof manner.

Are you trying to say that’s scummy?

No, just odd.

Huh. That feels like the kind of thing that could reasonably be called a scummy sort of weird.
I don’t think Titus is scum rn, to be clear

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What scenarios is it scummy in?

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T3 is probably town this game btw

idk about that one

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T3 is probably town this game btw

idk about that one

Circling back to this, what is your read on T3 then if not town. My tr on him comes from tonal/vibes atm

~meta time!!!!~
I just remembered how town Titus in ODM had a series of posts that was tonally similar to her joking around but aloof posts in this game so she's a townread for now. I'm not sure if this is exclusively a town Titus thing but based on the limited evidence I have it is.

You're supposed to meta someone else, so I can actually get data from it. I already know I'm town lol.

idk why you expect t3 to do something specifically for you

T3's saying that Titus was off tonally but not actually showing any deeper thought seems like scum dropping shade
also I'm gonna VOTE: T3

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i felt he was scummy

i didn't feel he was scummy anymore

can you dive deeper into how that developed?

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but can we move on from this please? it seems like scum just hopped on out no where trying to rolefish now lol

who is the scum who you think did this?

will talk about this in a later post when i catch up + giving the analysis on the "weird interaction" that i posted and promised to follow up on

okayyyyy

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T3 is probably town this game btw

Agreed. I'm feeling good about you, T3, Titus, and StD. And I guess Galron by association if the earlier meta read is correct.

despite me liking u, i have to say i hard disagree on this town circle -- and its a bad one here.

i feel like hockey and titus are never alligned here :/

okay; why is hockey town then?

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ur questioning me regarding why i said that was a bread crumb but you replied to gamma regarding rolefishing. if you know that gamma was tryna rolefish > then you my narrative is correct that you do believe it was a bread crumb. do you understand? or do you want me to simplify it easier for u? its basically like a logic gate.

uh wut
I don’t feel like asking what someone saw is entirely rolefishing unless it turns out they’re like informed of something, and I’ve seen someone in this game rn straight up bluff informed before, so I feel like that’s not even a concern.

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but can we move on from this please? it seems like scum just hopped on out no where trying to rolefish now lol

who is the scum who you think did this?

will talk about this in a later post when i catch up + giving the analysis on the "weird interaction" that i posted and promised to follow up on

T3 is probably town this game btw

Agreed. I'm feeling good about you, T3, Titus, and StD. And I guess Galron by association if the earlier meta read is correct.

despite me liking u, i have to say i hard disagree on this town circle -- and its a bad one here.

i feel like hockey and titus are never alligned here :/

that’s one hell of a jump in your catch up
why didn’t anything in the near-100 post gap interest you?

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ur questioning me regarding why i said that was a bread crumb but you replied to gamma regarding rolefishing. if you know that gamma was tryna rolefish > then you my narrative is correct that you do believe it was a bread crumb. do you understand? or do you want me to simplify it easier for u? its basically like a logic gate.

lol? I mean you're just assuming that just because I question soemoen else on why THEY know/want to know the "breadcrumb" and why THEY care doesnt mean i think its a breadcrumb? Me not seeing the "breadcrumb" and me questioning someone on someone whos fishing for that breadcrumb can both be true

I don’t think I’d need to ask if there was an actual breadcrumb
I moreso asked because I didn’t see it and scum are generally the ones who’d look out for them so I wanted to put GMo on the spot

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but can we move on from this please? it seems like scum just hopped on out no where trying to rolefish now lol

who is the scum who you think did this?

will talk about this in a later post when i catch up + giving the analysis on the "weird interaction" that i posted and promised to follow up on

okayyyyy

i actually want to talk to you for a bit. you have aksed multiple question but never followed up with anything. where do you stand now? what did you gather from the input of u asking people all these questions?

I ask questions because I’m naturally inquisitive, and tbh if you wanna talk about useless questioning I think Hockey is a worse case than me rn
btw I dragged out the “okay” because my initial reaction to that post was “geez is reading the thread that much of a task for you?”.

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i felt he was scummy

i didn't feel he was scummy anymore

can you dive deeper into how that developed?

i didn't like his posts

then i liked his posts

mostly a gut read

Okay so something changed how you perceived his posts
That’s a functional answer

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answer my question first before you go on to ask 5 other questions.

I was reading in order

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Also by throwing that question at me you evaded my question
Who do you think was actually trying to rolefish there?

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As for the hockey read I feel like you’re kinda overrating how much an improvement skill-wise it would be for Hockey to use a TSTBS strategy as scum
Have you even seen hockey!scum?

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but can we move on from this please? it seems like scum just hopped on out no where trying to rolefish now lol

who is the scum who you think did this?

will talk about this in a later post when i catch up + giving the analysis on the "weird interaction" that i posted and promised to follow up on

T3 is probably town this game btw

Agreed. I'm feeling good about you, T3, Titus, and StD. And I guess Galron by association if the earlier meta read is correct.

despite me liking u, i have to say i hard disagree on this town circle -- and its a bad one here.

i feel like hockey and titus are never alligned here :/

that’s one hell of a jump in your catch up
why didn’t anything in the near-100 post gap interest you?

i signaled that there was scum between them a while back when roden questioned me or sum.

I didn’t say a god damn thing about signaling. I asked why you skipped 81 posts.

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ur questioning me regarding why i said that was a bread crumb but you replied to gamma regarding rolefishing. if you know that gamma was tryna rolefish > then you my narrative is correct that you do believe it was a bread crumb. do you understand? or do you want me to simplify it easier for u? its basically like a logic gate.

lol? I mean you're just assuming that just because I question soemoen else on why THEY know/want to know the "breadcrumb" and why THEY care doesnt mean i think its a breadcrumb? Me not seeing the "breadcrumb" and me questioning someone on someone whos fishing for that breadcrumb can both be true

I don’t think I’d need to ask if there was an actual breadcrumb
I moreso asked because I didn’t see it and scum are generally the ones who’d look out for them so I wanted to put GMo on the spot

if you didn't see it. and people have claimed they haven't either. and i said its a breadcrumb, then wouldn't that make me town? since what titus said not a breadcrumb from ur pov?

what? how does me not seeing what you’re seeing make you town
That’s like the literal opposite of a mindmeld

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Titus is being so overtly strange that I'm tempted to just call it NAI?

TSTBS

Go back to Bad Player Jail.

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You have been STOPPED.

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lolwut

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I feel like I actually have followed up on my questions more than I sometimes do here so IMO you’re blowing hot air with this
I haven’t gotten anything out of that question because you’ve not answered it!

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VOTE: HockeyFan Voting for the Koba alt right of the bat.

Grandpa

is

DkKoba

's alt?

Pretty sure GMo ain’t an alt but w/e

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StD lock town?

Not sure atm, they play passively, though for me to understand them.

I just played a game where StD was very passive as town

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SF seems sorta towny so far

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I like T3's posting on this page and the last somewhat

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lol
also VOTE: hockeyfan

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Also why the hockey vote gamma?

I mentioned earlier I felt like hockeyfan had been asking questions and not doing much with them
for instance the asking of why I cared about GMo seeing a crumb, I don't think hockeyfan has actually done anything with my response to that

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Also why the hockey vote gamma?

I mentioned earlier I felt like hockeyfan had been asking questions and not doing much with them
for instance the asking of why I cared about GMo seeing a crumb, I don't think hockeyfan has actually done anything with my response to that

I mean even if it looks im not doing much with the questions

directly

, I am indirectly making reads off of them, no? I have a solid town core :^)

Also, your answer to my question was "I dont see how it was a crumb", which imo didnt really need to prompt a response.

That’s only half of my response
The other half was that I was trying to check what GMo was playing at

[Gamma Emerald]

Daychat is not enabled by default.

@hockeyfan

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You really think Hockey faked not knowing about no daytalk for townpoints? And no daytalk so it can't be a buddy the play him

I'm only saying that it could be easy to do that. I'm not saying that he did it here, but I've seen it before.

Scum impressions so far, is within Gamma, Grandpa, Titus, T3.

These reads feel pretty weak/safe

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but can we move on from this please? it seems like scum just hopped on out no where trying to rolefish now lol

who is the scum who you think did this?

will talk about this in a later post when i catch up + giving the analysis on the "weird interaction" that i posted and promised to follow up on

okayyyyy

i actually want to talk to you for a bit. you have aksed multiple question but never followed up with anything. where do you stand now? what did you gather from the input of u asking people all these questions?

I ask questions because I’m naturally inquisitive, and tbh if you wanna talk about useless questioning I think Hockey is a worse case than me rn
btw I dragged out the “okay” because my initial reaction to that post was “geez is reading the thread that much of a task for you?”.

Really don't like this post in particular.

Maybe the fact I’ve had to field this shit two games in a row might have to do with it?

[Gamma Emerald]

Multiball is not allowed in mini normals anymore

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VOTE: kop
Yeah I’m good with this, don’t entirely buy the townslip but those kop SRs are pretty much all the most notable slots

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Not sure what you mean by this?

I had LQ wrongly pushing me over my questioning in 235, now GMo did it here

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I cannot recall a single game where I’ve been scum and been suspected for asking pointless questions

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Not sure what you mean by this?

I had LQ wrongly pushing me over my questioning in 235, now GMo did it here

I think it's a playstyle thing then. I've noticed people lock on to other slots that ask a lot of questions. LQ is also just LQ.

I cannot recall a single game where I’ve been scum and been suspected for asking pointless questions

Are you saying it's a town tell then?

I guess
I mentioned in 235 it had been years since that had been brought up as a point against me

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I’m gonna take the rest of the day off from this game
I don’t feel in a good headspace rn

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I liked content from 445, plus nothing feels off about your tonal/vibes rn

Marci isn’t screaming scum but she feels somewhat different from OMB

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So like, I’m skeptical of her rn

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I think I’m gonna take the rest of the day off from this game
I don’t feel in a good headspace rn

Feel better soon gamma!

Thanks
FYI I at least don’t have to worry about the thing that was messing with my head anymore

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oh nvm, you're calling yourself STd's scumbuddy. why do ppl in my towncore like to claim mafia so much smfh

Because I'm mafia

oh really? same!!

Hockey reading everyone off tone/vibes is ???

check a mirror

Yes but meta is the best scumhunting tool

vibes > meta

oh
I've been skimming your and Grandpa's posts because... I actually dunno lol

whats ur reads

This makes me tr marci more because for some reason ppl i TR like to claim mafia and its annoying lol

You might have a point w/ that

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T3, what's your meta take on Titus?

Yeah I think Roden is town for this

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Low key I kinda don't scum read anyone right now. This feels like a really safe game.

mayb its cuz ur maf who knows everybodies town and doesnt wanna cast sus because u know its wrong :shrug:

Nah I'd just make some shit up or vote for passive town or distance a scum buddy.

I think scum is majority passive this time around since no one's making waves and nobody wants to make any controversial takes.

This is a very interesting take, and I think it’s pretty town indicative

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Marci playing similar to how she did in 2223 makes me feel better about her questioning.

I’ll trust u on this

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I liked content from 445, plus nothing feels off about your tonal/vibes rn

Marci isn’t screaming scum but she feels somewhat different from OMB

different how

You feel a little less engaged ig

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Anyone against running up Grandpa? They feel subdued and cautious, and normally would've been scum read by now.

I’ve gotten a few pings from GMo myself beyond the rolefishing debate, so I’m open to it

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That was on my alt Distance in OMB.

This is such a random thought but I just realized you have a similar way of referring to past games to me and Nancy Drew 38

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Gamma's play seems town but out of fear Im not gonna put them in my town core

This seems valid but I’m curious where the fear comes from, just the fact that I’m a experienced player?

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im feeling good about the ppl who just talked lately(T3,Roden,Marci). Not hard trs on any of them but the vibe feels right.

Yeah I kinda got the same feeling, so I’m feeling better about you now

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im feeling good about the ppl who just talked lately(T3,Roden,Marci). Not hard trs on any of them but the vibe feels right.

Why? I peg at least 1 scum in the 3 of em

im feeling good about the ppl who just talked lately(T3,Roden,Marci). Not hard trs on any of them but the vibe feels right.

Why? I peg at least 1 scum in the 3 of em

I mean you're probably right but T3 is town because I like his content. Roden's progression on reads/reasoning for them seems solid. Marci because of tonal/vibes. Who do u think is the scum?

I feel like this is gonna feel ironic down the line

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killing the highest postcount is a cool idea, it helps us be able to hide behind inactivity (cant be sused if theres nobody around to sus u!!!) but, what if we go for the second highest postcount so we can frame the highest for not dying?

LUL
I like to be dominant scum so I tend to kill active players to silence voices that might work against my agenda

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Anyone against running up Grandpa? They feel subdued and cautious, and normally would've been scum read by now.

Me, especially because you went from saying scum is passive to suggesting the one player who's actually had a confrontation

I said majority scum is passive, and Grandpa's play so far has been relatively passive anyway.

So who's being active to you if not Grandpa???? Also the other half of this is bs because you tacitly agree to the premise that you should be hunting within lower activity slots in 468 so don't try to worm out from that now

I didn't say anything about hunting within lower activity slots lol. Don't put words in my mouth.

Passive =/= lower activity and you should know the difference.

*nods in understanding*

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You really think Hockey faked not knowing about no daytalk for townpoints? And no daytalk so it can't be a buddy the play him

I don't hardcore think he did, but I'm not tr him for it. (I know this wasn't my question but I anticipate kop answered it)

This is probably town. I like the mindfulness of Garcia’ing

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Why are you back at post 6

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watch kop be that 3rd maf that everyone is gonna eventually have to bus due to inactivity

I am happy to help.

OMG did DGB scumclaim?!?!???!??!?
(this is a joke)

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i felt he was scummy

i didn't feel he was scummy anymore

I felt you're passive

I still feel you're passive

That’s not exactly scum-indicative for him

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After finishing till page 11, I think

Grandpa

,

GM

and

HF

are TvTvT.

Did you mean to include me, because it looks like you included GMo twice

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay yeah
Use GE rather than GM since GM can refer to GrandpaMo

[Gamma Emerald]

Now, read list in no particular order....

Grandpa

HF

marci

sb9

Kop

GE

Galron

Titus

STD

Roden

DGb

T3

I don’t really like those reads

[Gamma Emerald]

Will afk now...

Why’d you have to point this out? That’s feels kinda sus

[Gamma Emerald]

How is 460 a joke? Why would a joke be scummy while a serious post is ok/forgettable?

Wait, I messed up 460 with 461, the later post was joke to me, 460 wasn’t a joke. I payed with

Roden

in another mini where they caught the deepwolf in Day 1 and night killed at Night 2 because of that. I'm not sensing that fierce

Roden

here, feels they're acting like cautious scum, thus I think that particular post is scummy.
And what I said about 236 stays.

I’ve seen scum Roden and I don’t think this is really it

[Gamma Emerald]

naked reads are not content

For DGB they are

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That’s not being rude, I’m just saying it trends toward the lazier side

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Okay, we should be voting people just because they have a lazy playstyle

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pedit: apparently softing D1 for no reason is cool now???

i was trying to think about this but im so confused.. the biggest flag is "i cant be a townleader because of my role" seems like bs to me LOL... just seems a bit of an excuse so he could continue to slide by being inactive.
it isn't cool at all, but im not sure how to proceed...

Nah.

Scum don't do that.

This is valid

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pedit: apparently softing D1 for no reason is cool now???

i was trying to think about this but im so confused.. the biggest flag is "i cant be a townleader because of my role" seems like bs to me LOL... just seems a bit of an excuse so he could continue to slide by being inactive.
it isn't cool at all, but im not sure how to proceed...

Nah.

Scum don't do that.

Absolutely false and do not try to convince people that this is the case

Pretty much all the time when I've seen someone openly claim PR on day 1 without any reason they have been town.

I’ve seen T3 do this, which is why I called the comment valid, it makes sense for him

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Mini 2226
You weren’t actually PR but the idea was there

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I kinda wanna give SF a day because I miselim’d her D1 as scum in a previous game for similar play I think
link for those who want to see what I mean

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You wanna back that up?

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The moon confirms this. Roden goes to my towncore.

????

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VOTE: GrandpaMo
Idk which games you meta’ed but I think this is BS regardless

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Also the reason I haven’t pushed as hard this game is because my effort hasn’t felt like it’s been needed here, both in terms of how this game and my other games are going

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Like, I do this sort of cheerleader act sometimes when I don’t feel like taking the wheel
That’s what I’ve been doing this game and unless your spectating managed to miss that entirely I feel like you should get that

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One step ahead of ya lmao

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Although to actually respond to that last post, I think you should have presented those games to start with
As for why my effort doesn’t feel needed, it seems easy enough to sort a good chunk of people as town just by reading their posts and poking them here and there

But unless you actually substantiate that meta read and it doesn’t look as bunk as it felt when you announced it I feel like I have nothing to prove here

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Yup I think we got a ThorHead-ing scum on our hands in GMo

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Yup I think we got a ThorHead-ing scum on our hands in GMo

ThorHead?

A user named Thor665 once tried to miselim me as scum with a meta case so half-baked I use his name to refer to similar situations

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I’m not even going to engage that except to say Situation Room is not comparable to here
It’s also convenient you list 2 scum games when I was winding up to delivery a whooping based on bad interpretation of my town games

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I’m not even going to engage that except to say Situation Room is not comparable to here
It’s also convenient you list 2 scum games when I was winding up to delivery a whooping based on bad interpretation of my town games

Lol k.

U ignore the first game.

Ur excuse for the 2 other games, idek what that means, i listed 2 scum games, and you are playing similarly to this game. you still have not justified anything, and it just furthering my conf bias. if ur town ur still not making me believe you are town. u are just stuck with an omgus on me thinking im scum.

Idc
You’ve been a suspect for me since you started on this path of shading my questioning, the meta BS just cemented the bad vibes

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I’m not even going to engage that except to say Situation Room is not comparable to here
It’s also convenient you list 2 scum games when I was winding up to delivery a whooping based on bad interpretation of my town games

Lol k.

U ignore the first game.

Ur excuse for the 2 other games, idek what that means, i listed 2 scum games, and you are playing similarly to this game. you still have not justified anything, and it just furthering my conf bias. if ur town ur still not making me believe you are town. u are just stuck with an omgus on me thinking im scum.

Idc
You’ve been a suspect for me since you started on this path of shading my questioning, the meta BS just cemented the bad vibes

LOL WTF. u still CONTINUE to deflect the conversation and FINALLY scumread me of a line of reasoning. call me scum because me asking ur weird questioning. do you want to know why i was asking? because ive seen you do this on ur scumgames. i quoted proof, so u cant call bs.

also u never followed up on any of ur questions. what town asks questions to ppl and never following up on them.

I feel like I’ve followed up but you still beat the same dead horse that I’ve stated has only ever come up when I’ve been town, and I actually followed up a question I asked you and you consistently dodged it so you’re just driving the nail even further into your coffin with that crap
That’s why I’m not engaging you now, it’s just more shit you’re throwing out to act like you’re solving when you’re not
If you legit think I’m scum, why are you debating it with me? The smart thing would be to present the logic to others, but instead you’re trying to get me to concede that you have a point.
I had realized a difference between this game and Newbie 2074 as well and wasn’t sure if a good time to bring it up would arrive but this sure as hell is one. I actually was not passive AT ALL in Newbie 2074, instead I tried to start fires by fueling conflicts. The reason why it’s fitting to mention it here is you’re playing the same way I did there, especially D1: locking onto a slot and trying to pummel it into submission.

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honestly. im REALLY trying to see a world where gamma is town btw.

This is not true, or at least he’s not acting like it

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how does gamma respond to a tunnel: a metadive in progress

I can literally link the game where ThorHead became a thing for me
Because if you’re sticking to recent games imma stop you right there since I can’t recall any games in the recent past where I’ve had this reaction but further back there’s at least the one I can recall

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i think grandpamo looks better from it, but i dont necessarily think gammas scum tbh.

honestly. im REALLY trying to see a world where gamma is town btw.

like if its not obvious, im giving gamma to give me a chance to prove to her that they are town, but they havent like fucking jusfitied anything!!!! and its kinda frustrating ((

i cant really towncase him to help, so sorry
its just like, vibes right now, but its not something im too confident in the grand scheme of things.

i do see how frustrated you are though, and thats what feels town in you. you came up with a meta case, which you didn't really need to do in

this

game as scum, since you could prob just slide by a bit longer since nobody else is really doing anything, or could've just as well came up with a "i was busy uwu im so sorry guys" sort of excuse. its an awful lot of effort for scum to make. you stuck out your neck for reason.

I’m pretty sure you’re wrong about GMo. Not only does GMo’s play

currently

resemble how

I

played in Newbie 2074, his previous play resembles my

predecessor

in that game. ClarkBar barely posted and was lowkey sus for some people. The lacking presence GMo has had for most of this game matches that lackluster performance to a T.
There’s also the fact he’s constantly been a ball of excuses for how he couldn’t actually deliver the content he’s been promising, something I’ve tried to guide him back on track on when it came to what he promised me, but instead he’s ghosting me while pretending I’m the bad guy in this relationship.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also sb9 can you not vote park on me thanks

how does gamma react to a thought-out tunnel: a revised metadive in progres

Did you mean to quote that

Town Gamma in LN235 was tunneled by Nero. He tried to engage with Nero but then when Nero kept scumreading him for what be saw was irrational he just ignored Nero.

Eh that’s more-or-less true but the read on Nero is different than how I’m reading GMo here

[Gamma Emerald]

The car is not moving out of park until I stop wanting to lim you T3

The car will have to be towed.

What are you gonna do vote me? Start being townier and I'll gladly move elsewhere

But...he has been towny

[Gamma Emerald]

pedit: apparently softing D1 for no reason is cool now???

i was trying to think about this but im so confused.. the biggest flag is "i cant be a townleader because of my role" seems like bs to me LOL... just seems a bit of an excuse so he could continue to slide by being inactive.
it isn't cool at all, but im not sure how to proceed...

Nah.

Scum don't do that.

Absolutely false and do not try to convince people that this is the case

Pretty much all the time when I've seen someone openly claim PR on day 1 without any reason they have been town.

"I've never seen scum gambit" isn't really enough for me

This isn't the kind of gambit scum does though.

Please stop overthinking this and just do what's clearly GTO. We stop talking about it and get a claim tomorrow if the slot's alive, then evaluate from there, I think we can agree on that much at least

This is something I actually feel confident I can defend T3 on
While his theory is probably not entirely correct in practice, I know T3 has said similar before, and as such unless there was a game I am not presently aware of where something happened to contradict that belief it would make sense he’s still thinking this

[Gamma Emerald]

People tend to write off slap fights as TvT

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok kids. Superbowl9 please don't get my car towed. I'll never let you drive if that happens.

Gamma stop yelling at your grandpa. Grandpa, please stop acting like an old curmudgeon.

Everyone, there's two creepy people (SF and Kop) threatening our family. Let's eliminate them.

VOTE: Kop
I’ll do it just because this gave me a proper chuckle.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m telling you, T3 is as cracked as he is jacked. I saw him at a 7-11 the other day buying Monster and adult diapers. I asked him what the diapers were for and he said ”they contain my full power so I don’t completely shit on these kids“ then he rode a boar out the door

[Gamma Emerald]

I agree with kop's point on roden.
We yeet Salsa.

I'm kinda good with either, but let's just makes something happen

[Gamma Emerald]

I think part of the issue with this "Gamma doesn't follow up on questions" thing is I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT PEOPLE MEAN WHEN THEY SAY THAT!? I feel like once-upon-a-time it made sense because I threw out a lot of questions that went nowhere but there's never been a solid explanation of what people

wanted

from me in that regard, and in the most recent instance there was actually a logic behind it (I was getting paranoid of two slots I'd townbinned and as such wanted to curb it by allowing them chances to explain themselves before eating the paranoia apple), but at a certain point back when it was "a thing" I actually started trying to go over my questioning and make sure loose ends got tied up, and that's probably why it stopped getting brought up. I also think it's potentially related to what sort of playstyle I use, since it's only been recently that I've tried to switch back into the intuition-heavy playstyle that I believe I used quite a bit back when that was a major issue for me.
In the middle of writing this it dawned on me the exact reason why it's only been an issue for town!me. It goes back to my thing in that other game where I was getting paranoid, if I was scum I wouldn't have that legitimate paranoia, so I wouldn't be asking those aimless questions. So Roden was right to ID it as a towntell, despite me being initially hesitant to agree.
However, I do think 999 is actually a reasonable attempt to make a real connection, so I feel like you're probably being genuine here.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think part of the issue with this "Gamma doesn't follow up on questions" thing is I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT PEOPLE MEAN WHEN THEY SAY THAT!? I feel like once-upon-a-time it made sense because I threw out a lot of questions that went nowhere but there's never been a solid explanation of what people

wanted

from me in that regard, and in the most recent instance there was actually a logic behind it (I was getting paranoid of two slots I'd townbinned and as such wanted to curb it by allowing them chances to explain themselves before eating the paranoia apple), but at a certain point back when it was "a thing" I actually started trying to go over my questioning and make sure loose ends got tied up, and that's probably why it stopped getting brought up. I also think it's potentially related to what sort of playstyle I use, since it's only been recently that I've tried to switch back into the intuition-heavy playstyle that I believe I used quite a bit back when that was a major issue for me.
In the middle of writing this it dawned on me the exact reason why it's only been an issue for town!me. It goes back to my thing in that other game where I was getting paranoid, if I was scum I wouldn't have that legitimate paranoia, so I wouldn't be asking those aimless questions. So Roden was right to ID it as a towntell, despite me being initially hesitant to agree.
However, I do think 999 is actually a reasonable attempt to make a real connection, so I feel like you're probably being genuine here.

oh my go- what is this. im kinda eh "don't know how to react"

that whole post is like -- "okay okay im sorry, you are right. this is why im like this" type speech. idek if this is scum or town atp. anyone thoughts? or am i just imagining things?

yeah, that's pretty much exactly how it's meant to read. I feel like you're being more genuine than it first felt, and as such kinda feel a little bad for snapping at you like I did.
But I am genuinely curious what you mean when you say "follow up" because that's never been something anyone has cared to clarify when pushing me on this. I've tried to ensure my questions got answered, and when it felt like you were making false promises I took note of that and idk if I really acted on it per se but it definitely informed how I perceived you.

[Gamma Emerald]

btw I have a secret scumread I'm not sharing yet

[Gamma Emerald]

He’s not leading rn
Salsa has 4 votes and while GMo peaked at like 5 he’s at 2 rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Why’s Salsa being called a bus here?

[Gamma Emerald]

votesalsaplz

No we have roughly a quadrillion days left

bad reason to not vote imo

[Gamma Emerald]

votesalsaplz

No we have roughly a quadrillion days left

bad reason to not vote imo

I don't sr them.... I think we can do better today

I feel like trying to achieve the "perfect" lim D1 is not really a functional strategy
it's pretty much always working off minimal info, so you're probably always going to have one or two vocal detractors

[Gamma Emerald]

ill follow up on that after my salsa bus thing

that would be nice

[Gamma Emerald]

votesalsaplz

No we have roughly a quadrillion days left

bad reason to not vote imo

I don't sr them.... I think we can do better today

I feel like trying to achieve the "perfect" lim D1 is not really a functional strategy
it's pretty much always working off minimal info, so you're probably always going to have one or two vocal detractors

That's why I said I'll be fine voting them but it's too far from deadline lol

That’s also bad
I feel like we’ve gotten a solid amount of content this day phase
Playing like the deadline is some golden rule is objectively bad play imo

[Gamma Emerald]

like the only world i am seeing, is salsa hard town and town is only voting them or mafia is hard bussing.

i was just looking at salsa then everybody just hopped on salsa out of weird motion when they were people who scumread me then instantly pivoted on to me

I READ THIS POST AND I NEARLY VOMITED RL
IM NOT KIDDING

Trust your gut

[Gamma Emerald]

like the only world i am seeing, is salsa hard town and town is only voting them or mafia is hard bussing.

i was just looking at salsa then everybody just hopped on salsa out of weird motion when they were people who scumread me then instantly pivoted on to me

Only T3 and StD switched from Salsa to you

[Gamma Emerald]

What's the case on Kop btw? I don't scum read him, he's just sitting low in my town leans relative to mostly everyone else looking really town.

PE: Ok, I kinda see it. Kop in general has really low content, maybe just not trying to make waves? Would you say Kop/sb9 are aligned?

This question is sooooo oddly timed my dude

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: galron
what happened to him

VOTE: galron

VOTE: galron

I’m pretty sure Galron’s one of the slots I townbinned earlier, so please don’t

[Gamma Emerald]

like the only world i am seeing, is salsa hard town and town is only voting them or mafia is hard bussing.

i was just looking at salsa then everybody just hopped on salsa out of weird motion when they were people who scumread me then instantly pivoted on to me

This wagon has no chance of going to elim unless it has multiple IRL days staying power so

Uggghhhh why are you such an idiot @ mafia theory
Why the hell does a wagon need to stay for several days? That just seems like a fast-track to a stagnant gamestate!

[Gamma Emerald]

Asking about the Kop case

[Gamma Emerald]

@T3 and StD

how are y’all reading each other rn?

[Gamma Emerald]

ill follow up on that after my salsa bus thing

that would be nice

So uhhh did you figure out whatever you needed to wrt Salsa?

[Gamma Emerald]

@T3 and StD

how are y’all reading each other rn?

i think town but i'm wary

@T3 and StD

how are y’all reading each other rn?

i think town but i'm wary

Locktown, second to Roden.

Yeah this is alright

[Gamma Emerald]

okay hi gamma.

this post is for u

so look, what i mean by following up on posts is like look at post 157, someone answered your question and you were able to converse about them because you asked that question -- that wasn't apparent in your iso, there were way more questions not unanswered and just left open for you. like for example, what did you get out of post 248? town usually comes from a perspective where they are able to drop down most of their thoughts -- and when pressured, is able to give them. thats why i pressured you, but you decided not to follow up anything, and that made me scumread you because you kept making excuses that you were this question stating person, and u kept contradicting urself, then realized u kept hiding it because you were scared? i was right, and you admitted it. that whole thing unfort could be flagged for AtE just to make me townread you -- there is a possibility. but yea thats what following up means in my world.

Okay
I feel like as long as I get answers to questions I don’t need to acknowledge the answers 100% of the time, I instead actually try to continue threads that feel pertinent. Some questions, like I mentioned before, are just to deal with minor concerns and once those concerns are dealt with there’s no point to return to the subject. I can point to a concrete example of that in this game in me questioning Roden asking about the Kop wagon. As I said, the timing felt off, so it seemed somewhat like winding up to potentially bus, so I raised my concern and the response made me feel okay about the thing I initially found concerning.

[Gamma Emerald]

Uggghhhh why are you such an idiot @ mafia theory
Why the hell does a wagon need to stay for several days? That just seems like a fast-track to a stagnant gamestate!

I predict this day's discussion staying alive for at least a few more days??? If all of a sudden it becomes a ghost town your points are valid but acting like a turbolim is inevitable is kinda weird - look at the vc, Galron is tied with salsa and T3 is one behind - it's not like the entire game is at one person's throat

Maybe I’m over-reacting but it feels like we’ve had a good amount of content this game day, and I think trying for more is a recipe for disaster

[Gamma Emerald]

You really think Hockey faked not knowing about no daytalk for townpoints? And no daytalk so it can't be a buddy the play him

I don't hardcore think he did, but I'm not tr him for it. (I know this wasn't my question but I anticipate kop answered it)

This was one of the Galron posts I liked

[Gamma Emerald]

knock knock

hi marci

wow nvm.... ignoring my knock knock joke... breaking my heart...
hi hockeyfan <3

VOTE: superbowl9
saying this is scum indicative is scum indicative so watch yourselves

this is scum indicative.

Sorry I shot you marci, but glad you didn't die.

What do you mean by shot her?

Reference to a game that just ended. Found a gun, shot her and it backfired. I believe the color was "Galron shot his head off." Which as I type that out really makes me sad.

I just noticed this, second time Galron shot someone and died for it lmao

[Gamma Emerald]

I agree with kop's point on roden.
We yeet Salsa.

I'm kinda good with either, but let's just makes something happen

Why do you scumread me

Gamma

?

it's moreso that I don't townread you

[Gamma Emerald]

does anyone actually TR SF other than me . just seems people are hopping on this vote/are "fine" with this vote,, and I think that makes SF somewhat town

Eliminate me today, go for

T3

in the next day. No matter how townie they'll act or whatever they'll say, just eliminate them, they

deserve

it!

Salsa has done some SCUMMY STUFF

Which I all time do BECAUSE MY PLAY STYLE IS ANTI TOWN

and you're not trying to fix it

why

?

[Gamma Emerald]

that makes 0 sense

Day 1 lims are disproportionately on town.

So I can be town??

nah fam, nice try tho

Titus makes jokes in a serious tone often as town. She did it this game. The conclusion is simple.

wtf if this is yyourmeta reason for tring titus, dont u think making jokes ina a serious tone can be done as either aalignment

Yes, but for whatever reason she just doesn't do that as scum. Something about seeing a town pm causes a shift in Titus's emotions which causes her to do that.

Hmm... Partner (which I'm feeling atm)/TMI (if I'm wrong on

Titus

)

#badpost

[Gamma Emerald]

I have little sympathy for people who deliberately play with an anti-town town meta
if you get miseliminated for a playstyle you refuse to improve, that's not on the people who misvote you.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Salsabil Faria
By playing anti-town you make it hard for everyone else to actually find scum. This is a team game, act like it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Got an early solve salsa?

T3

,

Titus

.... Not sure about the 3rd scum yet.

We need another T in the playerlist for you

Nope, the 3rd one is

GE

... They also know my

anti town

town game and miseliminated me as scum in a previous game + they're going for this route also: after my (town) flip, they'll say this

I don't like anti town play, thus voted her, not my fault, blah blah blah...

I'm already saying those things m8
aside from this, I'm probably not gonna interact with SF at all for the rest of the game, and I'm going to try to avoid her in future games, because I just don't care for this blatant refusal to have a functional playstyle.

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma emerald why do u think galrons town

Eh stuff
I pointed out a post earlier that I liked

[Gamma Emerald]

don't mind me just obsessively althunting Galron for no reason other than curiosity

P sure he ain’t an alt

[Gamma Emerald]

Had the timing been different my first game here would’ve been a mini normal
I came here only because someone on my homesite was modding one, I just arrived early for it and ended up joining a newbie in the meantime

[Gamma Emerald]

but i dont think the way he did it was scummy..?

in my pov it just looks like "i see what ur saying, but i like the way i see it more."
am i understanding wrong?

YES, and thats the thing I find scummy :^)

I feel like I say that sort of thing a lot as town

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm feeling like my reads are static. More is happening over the weekend than I can interact with and my reads are static. It is a problem.

What seems to be the issue specifically?

[Gamma Emerald]

Now that game just ended, going to say that DGB looks ot be similar town.

That game is also why I locktown’d Roden for his idea that scum were being passive
He probably noticed the same gamestate that was going on there but from the other side, and called it out

[Gamma Emerald]

Towcore ig is like:
roden
std
hockeystan
moi
dgb
titus

Add Marci to it and it’s about good

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler:

VOTE: galron
what happened to him

VOTE: galron

VOTE: galron

I’m pretty sure Galron’s one of the slots I townbinned earlier, so please don’t

what has galron done that's actually helpful besides ask a bunch of questions

VOTE: galron
what happened to him

VOTE: galron

VOTE: galron

I’m pretty sure Galron’s one of the slots I townbinned earlier, so please don’t

Why is Galron towny?

This may or may not be coincidental.

Yeah I really don't like the timing of these two identical posts.

Eh could be benign

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma/DGB/Galron:

Does what happened to Salsa this game feel similar to what happened to me in Radio Buzz? Because I'm getting those vibes the more I look at her ISO. Especially the frustration of being unable to break through the town core that formed while she was absent.

Perhaps, but my perspective is probably tainted

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like I can’t really make a comparative evaluation like that when my thoughts on SF are mired in how she just refused to be cooperative at all

[Gamma Emerald]

hero solve N_M/Titus/{Gamma/Galron}

i actuall had that same solve but it is ever slightly changing

I have a critique of that solve FYI but I’ll reserve it because I don’t think it’s important until we get at least one flip.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m doing some thinking, who makes sense as NM/Kop partners rn

[Gamma Emerald]

@Titus and Hockey

can I get read lists from both of you? Reasons would be appreciated, but it doesn’t have to be uber-detailed

[Gamma Emerald]

You really think Hockey faked not knowing about no daytalk for townpoints? And no daytalk so it can't be a buddy the play him

I'm only saying that it could be easy to do that. I'm not saying that he did it here, but I've seen it before.

Scum impressions so far, is within Gamma, Grandpa, Titus, T3.

Titus - I don't like the feeling that she tried to buddy up to T3 early in the day. She hasn't really pushed anything, apart from a vote on myself and Salsa, which is the two easiest wagons to go on. And doesn't really have a case on me, other than my reads where she said it's likely all town, but that's her opinion, those are her feels, not mine. Both of her scum reads, and both of her votes, are based on others views, and based on where the flow is going. Yeah, she has actively tried to engage with the game, and tried to form reads, but I just feel that she is piggy backing of other peoples vibes.

SB9 - His constant discussion regarding the soft, rolefishing, he has only really pushed T3 as his scum read, and is happy to vote for Salsa for info even though he has a slight town lean on that slot. I'm sorry, info or no info, I wouldn't vote for a any sort of town lean just for info. Even if that is the way the day is heading, I won't be voting for a town lean of any sort. I just don't get that, I understand lynches provide info, but when you believe that slot is town, I'd personally prefer to try and provide the reasons why I believe I have that town lean whether it be small or big, and that a lynch is better elsewhere. Even if your not listened too, I just don't feel policy lynches. He scum reads T3 but hasn't really pushed his case out there for anyone to really buy into, and hasn't really pushed up anything else.

However, if Salsa ends up being scum, then great, but I'm not saying that I town read her slot right now.

So so far, I'm happy to vote within those 3 right now.

Could you talk about how your scumreads progressed, and what teams you could see rn?

[Gamma Emerald]

What changed for you gamma? You seemed pretty eager to end the day a little while ago, now we're kind of stalling and you're off the lead wagon you were on before?

I'm a bit restless rn

[Gamma Emerald]

-_-

[Gamma Emerald]

Towcore ig is like:
roden
std
hockeystan
moi
dgb
titus

Ok with this, with minor reservations. I'd swap Hockey for Galron.

This seems decent

[Gamma Emerald]

stealing hammer from all of you

VOTE: Not_Mafia

If this flips town, I think im still good with my town core, might have to switch my null/leaning town reads but we'll see
If this flips scum, well i think generally everything stays the same but Kop gets +scum equity

I probably would have hammered if someone else didn’t, I was still working through something but the result of it gave me assurance that NM’s flip would clarify some things

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Not_Mafia
Let’s finish this

[Gamma Emerald]

marci before we start I just want to say you’re an awesome person and I’m sorry I ever doubted you

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Titus
Something doesn’t seem right here and I think it’s you.

[Gamma Emerald]

I was honestly on the fence about Titus until she voted T3
T3/Marci/Roden is my no-touch circle atm

[Gamma Emerald]

I also expected her to follow through on pushing Kop if she’s town

[Gamma Emerald]

I could be okay with a GMo vote, part of why I felt Titus was initially suspicious was her pushing salsa/Kop as alternatives to GMo
FYI Titus was my secret scumread from D1

[Gamma Emerald]

ngl I have no idea what’s going on rn

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m doing some thinking, who makes sense as NM/Kop partners rn

Gamma, if you're still here, was your NM connected with your kop read (or vice versa) or were they independent reads?

I said that because I felt like Titus+GMo+maybe hockey felt like a viable team but I was drawing dead when trying to theorycraft about those two

[Gamma Emerald]

I also expected her to follow through on pushing Kop if she’s town

You expect me to continue pushing on a theory after it being proven wrong?

I had two scum slots in a thirteen player game. A reset is in order.

Why is T3 in your no touch pile?

T3 seemed rather genuine at a certain point in D1
As for the Kop push at the time it sounded like you suspected at least one scum was in Salsa/Kop

[Gamma Emerald]

I could be okay with a GMo vote, part of why I felt Titus was initially suspicious was her pushing salsa/Kop as alternatives to GMo
FYI Titus was my secret scumread from D1

This post is logically inconsistent.

If I was scum looking to save GrandpaMo, then why would votes there be bad?

You’re probably misreading

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm sheeping Titus for now. I'm thinking there's something more than ml involved.

VOTE: T3

Why sheep me when my thoughts are lol redo I dun goofed?

Both your and Gamma's entrance looked like results votes. Gamma later said his was for a different reason, so I went with yours. Now you're telling me yours isn't based on anything mechanical.

UNVOTE:

Tbh I don’t like this

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: galron
Fork it, I was floundering for reasons to TR him D1 and I know from LN 235 that tends to be a bad sign

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm sheeping Titus for now. I'm thinking there's something more than ml involved.

VOTE: T3

Why sheep me when my thoughts are lol redo I dun goofed?

Both your and Gamma's entrance looked like results votes. Gamma later said his was for a different reason, so I went with yours. Now you're telling me yours isn't based on anything mechanical.

UNVOTE:

Tbh I don’t like this

Meh. I've explained it twice. What's wrong with it.

Don’t like the way you just went “yeah this looks like a guilty I don’t wanna question it”

[Gamma Emerald]

Why did you check Roden? Also why were you referring to what looked like guiltiest when you are an investigation role yourself? Wouldn’t your natural inclination be to be MORE skeptical about any possible guilties via knowing you yourself are already investigative? This thought process does not track at all IMO

[Gamma Emerald]

Roden was flexing a PR. I assume there's a vig in the game. I wanted to know if that was Roden.

You think an odd night gunsmith would be the only investigative?

If you’re town why are you trying to find the town vig? Your play reeks of scum PoV

[Gamma Emerald]

It also tracks that scum would want to keep SB9 from pressing Roden to claim if they learn Roden has a gun and want to silence him before he can out a potentially harmful cop result or something, which establishes the logic for that NK
As such I think Roden should out any investigative results he has ASAP if he’s a role that is investigative and shows up as having a gun to a gunsmith

[Gamma Emerald]

....

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey hockey, maybe stop brown-nosing GMo so much

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah hockey you need to grow a spine

[Gamma Emerald]

Roden, marci and hockeyfan will be easiest pushes imo.

Surprisingly, this became the townblock for the most part