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VOTE: llamafluff

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maybe town like having fun n being goofy

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Why are you against pushing past rvs?

i am not

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This is a reason to vote someone?

always a reason to vote someone

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So you are voting me because you dont like that I have more of a no-nonsense playstyle?

i think mafia can hide behind rvs but i think u could be doing the opposite

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not cuz of ur playstyle

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Oh, I'm sorry I must have misunderstood.

your posts don't really ring serious, also

no worries
they r though

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Im hiding behind ending the RVS by being assertive in trying to end RVS?

no not the same i said i think u r doing the opposite
instead of hiding behind rvs u want to move out cuz its what town would do

It almost feels like you are saying "He is scum because he is trying to do town things" which is pretty much exactly what town does... unless you are trying to argue that as town I would have just well enough alone and let RVS continue? This feels more like you are attacking my game theory and playstyle than you are saying what I am doing is scummy.

no i dont get into all that stuff its confusing

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could be

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Its pretty well established that I dont like RVS. Its the boring and unproductive part of the game to me so I want it to end ASAP so we can actually focus on doing stuff.

this is good i get this

UNVOTE: llamafluff

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It's townie (but also boring) to push past RVS, but it's something EXTREMELY easy to fake as scum. I wouldn't give too many townie points just for *trying to get serious*

??? y the vote

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it's enough for an early day 1 townread sure

??? y 202

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Also can we move on from Llama? They’re no fun, but they’re probably Town.

it's enough for an early day 1 townread sure

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i think llamafluff is town

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i dont know about others yet

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speaking of which, do all 13p normals have 3 mafia or does it vary based on town power?

??? july 17 2011 and u ask this question

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vote rathe datisi

rvs is over

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I hope outworlder doesn't fall behind this game, I want to play with him. So I'm gonna stop posting for a bit.

VOTE: Infinity

why do you think he could fall behind? already tired and want to take a break???

I don’t know why but I got an s/s vibe from this

y just that infinity seems to know outworlder anya probably not

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i think its courteous to keep a player in mind

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do you think i should be townreading you?

i dont care either way but if u posted 202 ur vote dont match

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u said it doesnt make him town but u vote me for the same thing

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not sure what ur asking here

202 n 209 dont match n then ur vote dont match

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i think llamafluff is town

why

already said

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-rathe: i think mafia can hide behind RVS
-rathe: sees llama push out of RVS
-also rathe: i think it's a townie thing to push out of RVS
-also also rathe: yeah llama is scum because he pushes out of RVS

this is pretty much it yeah

yes
yes
no
yes i said mafia can hide behind rvs but instead of doing that i felt like llama was doing the opposite
this was before i read 110
y is this hard to understand

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i think people who r thinking r town so datisi luca anya mom

VOTE: samantha

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i don’t want to be townread or pocketed but i want u to be smart

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u r not being smart iconeum

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even if u think my reason is stupid dont lie

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for what it's worth, i didn't misinterpret you on purpose

i figured thats i wanted u to understand n not vote u

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n i think it might be mafia on ur wagon i dont know yet

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i think people who r thinking r town so datisi luca anya mom

Explain why Anya is on this list? I find her impossible to read.

sorry i missed this
anya was one of the players who understood what i meant when i said what i said about llamafluff

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i know it can be faked but i find mafia is dumb or acts dumb

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it didnt seem that hard to understand

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im gonna keep my vote where it is right now cuz i think samanatha might be the scum on iconeum

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i dont know about outworlder right now

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oh i see samantha is on outworlder now

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i dont think it changes anything for me

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i would say the reason llamafluff is voting for iconeum is weird because everyone else townreads it

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iconeum changed and said maybe he was looking at it wrong

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i dont think llamafluff should be scumreading him for it

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Im less sure on Icon. Trying to see if this is more town who is locked into stubbornness regarding Rathe or if its more of scum doubling down. Either way its probably at least half Icon believing in their reasoning, even if they are scum. Him ignoring everyone but Umulat is odd too. Right now I want to see what his current read on Rathe is.

hes not voting me at least

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If he was I would be in death tunnel mode. Still not thrilled that his reaction seems to be still in a "how dare you say me misinterpreting Rathe was anything but town misunderstanding him". Unless his claim is that as scum he would either not have made the same misinterpretation, or that he would have ignored it, the whole push ends up not being a tell.

not sure u would have to ask him but i think as mafia he doesnt make it so obvious

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Really just trying to evaluate now as one of the biggest things bothering me is how little I like the OW wagon it feels wrong but I cant put my finger on what part of it feels so wrong.

samantha

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that doesnt necessarily clear him of all suspicion for that pisspoor push, regardless of if he walked it back or not its still wolfy

town do wolfy things sometimes

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something being wolfy doesnt always mean the player is a wolf

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town make bad pushes mafia wanna be careful

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if you want to scumhunt youre going to need to look for wolfy things, just because someone can be town doesnt mean they are
mafia are unpredictable

its more than that u dont want to be too shallow
mafia can be unpredictable but r predictable at the same time

'town might do x' isnt a defense

???

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town make bad pushes mafia wanna be careful

doesn't this contradict your opinion of me?

how ur play is very strange for town

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did u do it on purpose

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uhh maybe gimme a moment to read u again

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that was for samantha

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i will unvote u cuz maybe i was too eager u just seemed like u could be the mafia

UNVOTE: samantha

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were u playing like that on purpose

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ur early posts didnt seem like town after reading them again

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but then they started to seem better

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i want to ask y did u stop voting me

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I never cared about voting you in the first place

k i think i get it

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u guys know umlaut and outworlder better

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there r more of who i think is town on umlaut than outworlder

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i dont know how to read them cuz they both seem like they could be town

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im just gonna vote with people who i think r good

VOTE: umlaut

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VOTE: Rathe

hi

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i know it might be random n it happened long ago but i like how infinity was courteous for outworlder

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i dont think mafia would wanna fake that

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i guess they could but for this game i dont think so

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Everyone else hasn't done anything I find particularly egregious, so scum is probably in deep.

i think this as well

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mafia is nice this game

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Rathe, what wagons do you like/dislike and why?

i am actually kinda tired of the back n forth

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i will probably just not vote or keep my vote and let u guys work it out

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the people i could think r mafia r playing like town

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i will be better on day 2 when there is actual information

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sorry if u want more

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k i wont vote for outworlder iconeum or anya

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This is... not an answer

u can ask me specific questions about someone u wanna know about

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Do you think Andresvmb is scum?
Do you think OutWorldER is scum?
Do you think I'm scum?
Do you think LlamaFluff is scum?
Do you think Iconeum is scum?
Do you think Datisi is scum?
Do you think Anya is scum?
Do you think Luca Blight is scum?
Do you think Something_Smart is scum?
Do you think samantha97 is scum?
Do you think Infinity 324 is scum?
Do you think Koto is scum?

possibly
no
possibly
possibly
no
possibly
no
possibly
dont know
possibly
possibly
possibly

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can we make it happen my guys

probably not
VOTE: llamafluff

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explain that progression real quick please?

y r u asking

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u seem to be asking just to be asking

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do u want llamafluff dead or not

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i have been reading everything i just dont post every thought

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241 to 1637 is a large gap

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a lot has happened

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i have been reading everything i just dont post every thought

that y i tell u all to ask me specific questions i do better that way

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also do better when there is a flip n we have more information

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but i said that already

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what's your favourite and least favourite animal in this game

i would say bunny n then wolf

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can we make it happen my guys

probably not
VOTE: llamafluff

i told u iconeum

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infinity probably wont go through either

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u dont wanna vote me its just the path of least resistance

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hi

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do i claim

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i am enabler

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so id rather not be the elim but if it needs to happen at least itll be something

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town mailman enabler

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no datisi

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its essentially a vanilla role but once i die any mailmen will be powerless

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wasnt that already hammer samantha

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k

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hmm so maybe llama and umlaut r actually mafia

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maybe samantha

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didnt u say that u would go after the one who hammers a town

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2216 is for samanatha

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anyone who is mailman knows im telling the truth

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it was hammer a few unvotes but samantha was the hammer

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no luca went onto outworld he never went back on me u r the hammer

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well bye

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so iconeum was mafia

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u did well then i thought u were town all the way

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y was i mailman enabler with mafia mailman

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what is the strategy for town